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arc2.0

And I see you've archived our lovely arc! /cry!

I go away for a couple weeks and you've erased all memory of me!

Well except for changing your name on your userpage, of which I heartily approve! --Ceridwyn 00:54, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

What are you talking about, the arc was never gone! It was merely hiding until you came back! It is by far the best-shaped conversation I've ever seen. Although I do like the coloured section header on this one!

So were you off purveying fine cherries again? Or perhaps great apples this time? Lovely bananas? Can't have been nearly as fun as conversation-arc building, that's for sure! → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:52, 16 Feb 2007

It warms the cockles of my heart to see the arc's return :) Where have I been? oh, here and there. If you must know, the expansion for WoW came out, so yeah...but I'm lvl 70 now, and all is right with the world again. I gave up the purveying of assorted high-quality fruit to study Lua programming for WoW for 2 wks, and am now resuming normal student life :)

I am in agreement about the aesthetic value of the conversation, certainly the prettiest I've partaken in! And thank you ever so much for the delightful colouration on my user page! <3 --Ceridwyn 06:01, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome! Wait, are you trying to tell me there are things to do for fun that aren't uncyclopedia? I didn't know such a thing existed! Congratulations on becoming level 70, you must be proud!

You're welcome for the colouration too, I'm sure you would have done the same for me, should the situation ever require it! → Spang ☃☃☃ 13:25, 17 Feb 2007

I'm not certain fun comes into all the time, more compulsion these days :)

I logged into IRC yesterday and was sad to hear I'd missed you by 20 mins :(

You know of course I'd repay the favour, or have I already? I've lost track of our tit-for-tat edits of each others userpages, can't tell who owes who anymore!

In fact if I was to be completely honest, I've forgotten which pink is the correct pink these days too, its been so long. IIRC i liked FF3399, but you were in favour of FF69somethingsomething? Perhaps you can shed some light on this :)

Also one day I'll get around to making an all pink signature for myself. the blue name and black time/date mar the pristine loveliness of my paragraphs.

I see a bit of a trend here, could this be arc 2.0?

<3 --Ceridwyn 22:39, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Compulsion, fun, it's all the same, right?

Aw, what are the chances? Though I'm usually on IRC at quite odd hours, and usually not at any regular times. So it's often quite difficult to catch me on it.

I can't remember who owes who what as far as the userpage edits go. Basically now I would just go by editing whenever I feel like it! Much easier than keeping track of things. I think the correct pink os the one that looks the best. There may be a reference to Ceridwyn Pink™ above, but I'm going to use my powers of advanced laziness to not look that up. I remember mine was more of a hot pink. Or something. I'm not really sure, to be honest, I though you were the one to keep the pinks in check!

Ah, a pink signature would be rather good! It would make your paragraphs that much more pink, which is always a good thing! If you find your trivial powers aren't quite enough and need help making the signature, just ask and I'll assist (if I'm not feeling too lazy, that is)!

I was thinking of making my paragraphs some kind of blue to offset the pink, and make arc 2.0 even better looking than arc 1! That'd be awesome. → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:24, 18 Feb 2007

Yes I think I was the self-appointed guardian of Pink, but I've caught your laziness. I'm sure you are quite right and that all we'd have to do is scroll up and the answers would be there, but meh :)

I'm sure I'll figure something out in the way of a signature, although my earlier dabblings didn't acheive my secret and nefarious goals, so perhaps I just suck at this CSS stuffs.

Blue would be nice, however then we'd really be falling into awful clichededness. Perhaps you could find a nice gender-ambiguous muave, or even puce? Perhaps a shade of olive? Olive is quite nice, although it might not go well with my pink. Better stick with puce. I think I shall change the name of this heading to arc2.0 Yes without a space. I like it that way --Ceridwyn 07:07, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh dear, I didn't realise my laziness was catching! I'd do something about that, but meh... :)

If it's not above, then it'll be in the archive somewhere... but that clicking as well as scrolling and looking, so I'd probably only do that in the case of some kind of Pink-emergency.

If I see any signature-dabbling, I'll be sure to lend a hand if I can. I sucked at the css stuffs before I came here, and now I'm like the best, ever. So I feel honour-bound to pass on The Knowledge whenever I can!

Ah, I didn't consider the clichédness of the pink/blue combo, I was just thinking of using the blue in my sig. Can't be having with terrible clichés, though, so a different colour it shall be! I'm too tired for colour choosing right now, but later I shall peruse a big colour list to find the perfect one. I'll keep your recommendations in mind though!

Hmmm, arc2.0 without a space? Is omitting spaces a hitherto undiscovered trivial power? Maybe even trifling? :o → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:36, 19 Feb 2007

The blue in your sig IS quite lovely, and might perhaps dispell those pesky rumours of your being a girl :P

No ommitting spaces, as far as I can tell, is not part of my trivial powers, more part of my fleeting whimsy.

Bleuch Ethics class is getting in the way of my arcing =/ --Ceridwyn 21:45, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Damn, I thought that userbox I made would have convinced anyone beyond their gender-doubting. Damn you, false rumours!

Hmmm, how about this colour? I don't know how well it goes with the pink, but it has the manliest name of any colour I could find: Burly Wood. I don't know if I'll stick with it, but it'll do for now.

Perhaps ethics class can be useful to the arc: I wonder how ethical it would be to retroactively colour all my parts of this arc? I don't know if your class covers arc ethics specifically, but if it doesn't, it probably should. → Spang ☃☃☃ 09:05, 20 Feb 2007

Burly Wood eh? Certainly sounds very manly, however sadly it is quite a hard colour to read =/ Perhaps a darker shade of it? Although bear in mind it is critical to avoid it looking like poo. On that note did you intend to make the pun about "sticking" with it? If not its mightily funny anyway.

My opinion on retroactive arc colouring is that it would be unethical, although under Rawlsian justice theory, those sections of the arc have been under-priveleged or deprived, and should therefore have more given to them to make up for this injustice. Its a heavily debated area of retroactive arc colouration ethics.

Much to my dismay (and yours also I'm certain) my Ethics class is shamefully neglectful of recent retroactive arc colouring theory, almost conspiratorially so I might add. My trival powers fail me as to the correct spelling of the act of being privy to a conspiracy. :( --Ceridwyn 00:21, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Ok, today's manly-sounding colour is "golden rod". *snicker* It's quite similar to the last one, and maybe easier to read. Though I don't know how well it achieves the "not look like poo" goal. I think it's just enough gold in it to save it. Don't know if I'll keep this one either. I just get distracted by the ones with slightly funny names.

I think it would probably be best just to leave the old ones as they are. It's like history. If I was to start retroactively colouring my arcs, it might start me on a slippery slope, and before I know it everything I ever did would be variously coloured with colours with vaguely amusing names! And that just wouldn't do.

I think it is quite unethical that ethics classes aren't teaching people what they need to know about the modern-day issue of arc-colouring. What kind of world would they have us live in, one without arcs and colours? That's be a terrible place to live indeed. It's obviously a conspiracy - perhaps there ought to be a secret undercover investigation into this... → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:09, 22 Feb 2007

Lol@golden rod, just where is this master list of colours you peruse? I'm not sure which is easier to read tbh, but its probably closer to baby lamb poo yellow than traditional brown, so you are probably safe at the mo.

I definately agree on the anti-retroactive arc colouring stance you are taking, more power to you!

Uggh I started writing this ages ago lol, got distracted. Thats enough from me for one arc segment! --Ceridwyn 10:12, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Aha, so you want to know the location of my super-secret ultimate list of all HTML colour names, eh? The place where I derive all my (admittedly inferior) arc colouring prowess? Ok. Awesome colour list here!. Today's pick is light sea green. I think it compliments the pink nicely, though it may be getting into the clichédness we were avoiding just a little. Ah well. I had considered "snow" colour at one point, but decided against it. :)

At least it's definitely not poo coloured in any way! Which is always important.

Hmmm, not very many section to go till we're back at the margin... I wonder who is going to win? I have absolutely no idea who it could be! → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:34, 24 Feb 2007

Light seagreen is quite nice actually, and definately well clear of looking like poo! I think the argument that its actually a green, not blue would negate the cliché aspect easily.

As for who is going to win, I suspect I know at this point, although I wonder if the decision to turn back was entirely random or is this somehow rigged? /suspicious

What will the winner receive this time?

Also, this raises an interesting question that I hadn't thought of last arc, once we reach the margin and arc back out again, are we locked into turning at the same point as the last arc, for symmetry's sake, or is each arc another race back to the margin? --Ceridwyn 06:49, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Well seeing as light sea green is ok, I'll stick with it for now. Also, I'm too lazy to find another good one right now :)

Well, not so much rigged, as come to the conclusion that as long as each person indents or undents by one each time, the winner will always be the same, no matter where it turns back. That's the science of conversation arcs for you. I suppose one could use html/css to do a half indent, but it just wouldn't be quite the same.

Hmmm, I'm not sure what the prize should be... Perhaps whoever is going to lose should think something up soon!

Hmm, I'd say that one should be free to indent or undent at will. Others may feel that a more evenly structured approach would be better, but I say they're living in the past. The past! This is the future, there's no place in these arcs for rules any more. You could even start indenting from the right, or go crazy and indent both sides at once! The possibilities are endless!* → Spang ☃☃☃ 07:10, 26 Feb 2007

*not actually endless

Woohoo! I win! Lets play again! The fun is trying to win when you play ArcConversation™ by Milton Bradley

I think I've figured out the formula for winning, the person who starts the undenting will lose. Always. Although I think this needs stringent testing. Also in the interests of aesthetics, I think if arc2.0 is ever left to die, we cannot let this happen until we reach the lefthand margin again. For example here would be an ok place, but another complete arc first would be preferable.

Not that I think we *should* let it die, its clearly superior to arc1.0 and I accept full responsibility for the expiry of that one, although I have seen the future, and its arc3.0, better, brighter and more colourful! Why we didn't start colouring it earlier I shall never fathom, and although we decided retroactive arc recolouring was inherently evil and wrong, it does somewhat offend my aesthetic sensibilities.

Anyway, I digress, the point here is 'I win', and I want a purty award, akin to the Squid Award, but much more topical to THIS arc (lets look to the present and future not the past after all!) with which to furnish the dusty recesses of my userpage, perhaps something in a tasteful light seagreen? --Ceridwyn 22:26, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Triumphant Arc Award Congratulation, you have won the prestigious Triumphant Arc Award!. Awarded by Spang for being the first back to the margin, impressive use of colour, and proficiency in the field of arc ethics. It is awarded only to those possessed of the most advanced arc-crafting skills known to mankind. You should be proud.

Congratulations! Well done on being first back to the margin, you deserved it. I'm considering another rainbow award, but that might be a bit excessive.

Actually, I think that whoever starts the arc always finishes it. If you think of the person who started it as always having an even number of indents, and the other person having an odd number, you can see that it's a foregone conclusion right from the start. Unless each person uses a different number of indents. Like that game with the conting numbers, that I can't really remember right now.

It's a shame that colouring the old sections would be wrong, but we can look back on them and be thankful we live in more colourful times. Of course it shouldn't be left to die, but I am very intrigued by this arc3.0 you speak of! It sounds brilliant. There was me thinking that this arc was pretty bright and colourful, I can only wonder at the wonders arc3.0 will hold!

For today's arc colour I was going to go a bit darker with normal sea green, but thought it wasn't bright enough. So I went with one slightly brighter than light sea green, medium turquoise. I still like light sea green the best out of my colours here, but I feel I should mix it up a bit. Though most of the colours I find either don't go well with pink, are too blue, or are too poo-coloured. It makes choosing colours quite difficult on occasion.

Anyway, here's to arc2.0, and the future of all arcs! → Spang ☃☃☃ 07:02, 1 Mar 20072

Thank you very much for the award, however it is a bitter sweet triumph because, and I'm almost afraid to utter the words aloud(or typed?) but you forgot to indent! :O

The shock! The horror! I'm nearly speechless! arc2.0 is ruined!!! /sob--Ceridwyn 07:54, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

No no, it was entirely intentional! It was in fact a sneaky attempt to win the next indenting challenge by being in the "winning" indent position. I've indented this one twice to make up for it. I hope it doesn't just ruin it more... → Spang ☃☃☃ 08:03, 1 Mar 2007

Rofl, I'm not sure I can handle such blatant bending of unwritten arc rules! I'm from the conformist school personally :P And no colour either?! You really are a renegade of arcness aren't you! As for the colour choices, I can see how you've been put in a difficult position, but as they say, um...necessity is the mother of creative arc colouring? >.> Excuse me I think I life the over on.../scuttles away --Ceridwyn 08:07, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm believer in free arcs, man. Rules are so... not rad. To be honest, I was in such a rush to correct the arc to its former glory that I completely forgot to colour it! Though I also believe that sections of colour should be treated as equally as sections of non-colour. Doesn't mean I'll stop using colours intentionally though! → Spang ☃☃☃ 08:17, 1 Mar 2007

Lol filthy hippy! :P Lol I just realised I wrote "I think I life the over on..." man I must have been tired, was meant to be "I think I left the oven on..." rofl

So whats the buzz around ole uncyc these days? I'm kinda out of the loop now... --Ceridwyn 20:12, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I was also so tired I didn't see that till the second time I read it. I sure it could work as an actual sentence somewhere...

I'm not sure there's much interesting going on now... people making articles, me deleting them, same old same old! Maybe it's time to start making your own loop. I know your forté is arcs, but that might be pretty interesting. → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:43, 2 Mar 2007

I do apologise friend, its been a busy wee while and your last comment threw me for such a loop (oh yes I'm terribly funny!) that I honestly didn't know how to reply!

Loops!? Not arcs?! The possibilities may in fact be endless, if in fact one could figure out where to start! I think thats always my problem, I see the possibilities of the great ball of wool of life but can never unravel it en2ough to find the beginning with which to knit the great jersey of experience!

Excuse the rambling, I've just spent the last hour secreted away in my hallway closet looking through boxes of old sketch books and I feel a bit peculiar!I think I left my brain somewhere near number 5 Memory Lane. You know, the lovely little bungalow on the corner?

Ooooooh I see where the whole loop thing came from now! Very tricksy of you Glittersprinkles!

Wow, my web design tutor would be having absolute conniptions at the deprecated tags I use here!

Anyway Mr. Pinchy dislikes loops and I am bound to his will just now! Good day! --Ceridwyn 00:59, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Ha ha! I see your joke! Very droll, very droll. :)

Loops... now those are like the future of arcs, maybe one day, we can craft a looped conversation. It would be awesome! But in the mean time, arcs are quite awesome enough, especially this one, which is veritable the very best of all the arcs.

Are you sure looking through these sketch books is entirely safe? You never know, they could be cursed (with two syllables). Ahh, number 5 Memory Lane. I have such fond memories of there. Well, I would, if I hadn't taken a detour through amnesia avenue.

I think I'd be doing your tutor proud - no deprecated HTML tags here! CSS all the way! Even though it does take long22er to type it out this way...

Gasp! Dislikes loops? He must be loopy! → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:47, 9 Mar 2007

I'd use CSS but then it wouldnt be true to the essence of #FF3399 =/

This arc is definately the pinnacle of all arcdom as we know it, I'm not sure about loops, I think its beyond my trivial powers.

Speaking of which I had a wee chuckle to myself in the video shop the other day because one movie (Clerks 2 IIRC) had the line "With no power, comes no responsibility" on it.

Lol at amnesia avenue.

Mr. Pinchy can be quite crabby about things like loops. (teehee!)

So has your flatmate surfaced yet or esconced safely in his room still. What is a sconce anyway? --Ceridwyn 05:34, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm, I think a colour is the same regardless of where it comes from. But maybe that's just the filthy hippy in me talking again.

I don't think we have the advanced technology required for loops yet. But one day in the future... it shall be a reality.

Heh, I think someone's been stealing our sayings! (Never mind that it probably came out before our trivial version)

I've not seen my flatmate yet, but that's mostly because I'm not staying at my flat this week. But he is still replying to his phone, so not all is lost!

According to google, a sconce is a wall-mounted light fixture, very fashionable around the late 17th century. So I'm not sure how exactly that applies in this situation. Perhaps if he were staying in his room in the manner of a wall-mounted lamp. Which might be fun to see. → Spang ☃☃☃ 12:23, 10 Mar 2007

Yes but the essence of Ceridwyn Pink TM is that its a hex colour. To go around using some weird RGB colour would just be wrong wrong wrong! They may look identical to the untrained eye, but I would know, and quite frankly the knowledge would keep me awake at night. In fact, I'm not sure I could live with myself!

Loop technology is certainly a field we should be investigating. I shall watch its developments with great interest! Hopefully there will be some really gripping conferences and workshops on it somewhere exotic that I can be paid to attend by uncyc. In the interests of developing this new technology of course!

We should definately sue Jay & Silent Bob for stealing our completely original and creative saying!!! How dare they!!!

Its when they stop answering the phone that you need to worry. Unless its a highly important raid, in which case its FINE if ppl ignore the phone in order to not interrupt their WoWing. Yeah... >.>

I had a feeling you'd bring up wall-fixtures. I suppose that makes sense. --Ceridwyn

Ah yes, but the wonders of CSS allow hex colours to be used too! Magic! Like the lovely random hex colour picked randomly from template:random colour. But I won't stop you using Ceridwyn Pink™ in any way and in any tags you please!

I think if some kind of loop technology could be devised, here should be one of the very first places for it to be implemented. I too shall be on the lookout for developments. Though I think that attending conferences in exotic locations would interfere with my laziness, unfortunately. Though travelling the world in search of the elusive loop could be pretty fun too!

You had a feeling? So does that mean that you're psychic or that I'm predictable? Or both? I sense that you don't find the subject of wall-fixtures particularly thrilling.

This just in: a sconce could also be a kind of defensive fort, hence, ensconced. It can also mean sense or wit. It's really quite a versatile word. Shame I can't use any of my sonce to make up something clever about it.

Yeah, sometimes real life just gets in the way of important gaming.

Yeah, I'll make sure he doesn't lose himself in the game too much, unless he working on leveling up the character I told him to make, in which case I'll lock him in his room till he's suitably awesome. → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:45, 14 Mar 2007

See, I like the fact that my deprecated tagginess is at least consistant. Whereas you sir have so far alternated btwn font and div tags. Your hippy freeloving tag swinging ways bah! But at least you don't oppress my oldschool ways :) Not sure I approve of this new colour, or are you trying to follow your latest vandal's advice?

Certainly if loop technology breakthroughs are to be had, they will happen right here at Arc Technology Labs.

I suspect it might be a combination of both predictability on your part (not a bad thing) and a touch of psychicness on my part, possibly.

I wouldn't say I don't find them thrilling, just that I was aware that that was really one meaning of the term when I asked what it was anyway, so your initial findings weren't particularly surprising. However these recent unearthings are quite interesting, as much as sconces can be. Really if I were honest though I'd have to admit I find scones more interesting. At least you can eat them.

What character did you tell him to make? It better be a warlock! XD You may have to make use of some kind of feeding tube to provide his RL body with nutrition as the road to Suitable Awesomeness is a long one, fraught with danger! --Ceridwyn 04:53, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Well maybe it's better to say inconsistent - it keeps your opponent on their toes. Or something. Yeah, I didn't even preview that colour, just copied the first thing that came up. I probably would have chosen a different one if I'd previewed, but then it wouldn't be so random. Back to the tried and tested for now though.

I don't often take advice from my vandals, but I'm still hopeful that one day one will actually vandalise in a nice or useful way. Though they'd be hard pressed to better my userpage in its current form! Speaking of which, I feel it's time a added or changed something, but I don't know what yet.

Hmmm, well I'm working on the predictability with my random colours and inconsistency, but that psychicness is quite a talent!

Ah yes, scones. Those are pretty awesome. And so much better than a sconce could ever be, I'm sure. Aw, now I have a craving for scones, damn you!

I'm not sure, I only specified the name, and that it had to be awesome. Obviously it won't be as awesome as if I had created it myself, but I have faith that it'll be awesome enough. I will suggest warlock, though I may hold out on deciding class until I'm 100% that there won't be a god class in the future. You never know! → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:36, 14 Mar 2007

Well, I've graciously decided to let you win this one, but I'm not certain I'll be able to top your Triumphant Arc award! That reminds me I still have to get that put on my user page :D

It might be nice to see something new on your userpage, though anything radical and you'd have to preserve the original somewhere.

I'm interested to know what name you suggested for him! And as for God class, I'm pretty certain warlock IS it. Although having said that, I'm a bit bored with mine atm, been having a lot of fun on my priest alt. Perhaps its the constant awesomeness, it can get tiring you know.

Sorry this is short and much delayed, you know how I am, all hiss & roar for a while then I just disappear :P --Ceridwyn 21:26, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

By my calculations, I may still lose :S Though if you think I am going to win, you have plenty of time to think up2 an award!

I'll take that hint and add all your awards to your page somewhere ;)

Oh no, nothing radical, just minor tweaks here and there to keep it up to date! I don't think I could start again with something different now.

The name I suggested was "Mentaldor". It's a bit of an in-joke. I'm not sure the Warlock enough for me. I mean, spells are all well and good, but I don't think I'd settle for anything less than absolute omnipotence from my character! Though I find constant awesomeness a real problem in real life too, it does get a bit repetitive. → Spang ☃☃☃ 16:32, 26 Mar 2007

Well my formula states that you should win, I guess this is the test! Still no award ideas yet =/ Perhaps something with Dylan Moran standing beside an arc wearing a seagreen shirt holding a sign saying "#FF3399" but that might be tricky to arrange. Was he supposed to be also near a squid fuelled fire? I forget.

Clearly one of those "you had to be there" in-jokes ;P So do you know what class he's playing yet? I'm personally taking a wee break atm, too many assignments and too addicted. Need some balance. --Ceridwyn 22:13, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, time will tell!

That would surely be quite an award to behold! Now I surely will be disappointed by anything less that that, should I win!

He's playing a dark elf druid or priest or something. He can turn into a bear and a cat though, and is level 22. That's about as much as I know. → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:04, 30 Mar 2007

My absence is really just a form of procrastination because I have no idea what to do for an award! Truly >.> Ok not really. I'm just an incredibly slack and terrible person.

Ah night elf druid. Can't say I've ever played once past lvl 12, I hope he enjoys it! I just never found them that appealing. Has he convinced you to start playing yet? --Ceridwyn 23:41, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't make you a terrible person! Well, it does, but I'm too nice to tell you. I've also heard that, in the same way as those tribes that believe taking someone's picture steals their soul, editing my talk page also steals your soul. So maybe it's a good thing.

Ah, that must be it. He hasn't convinced me yet, as my laptop at my flat is too old to run it in the first place, and playing it seems to take up too much time that I don't have! That valuable time could be spent sleeping, or sitting around doing nothing, and those things are very important to maintain a healthily lazy lifestyle.

Oh, and I still think you're going to win again :P Better start thinking up another award... → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:59, 10 Apr 2007

Well I can't be having my soul stolen now...wait how many edits does it take for it to be stolen completely? I think I'm doomed. Surely no-one else has made quite as many edits as I have. Oh noes =/

Probably just as well that your laptop can't run it. Best to stay clear of temptation. WoW is really horribly addictive and so far apparently humanly impossible to quit. I don't know a single person who has quit for good yet in the 2 yrs I've been playing. They always come back. Myself included, even when you don't really want to. So I suggest not even trying it. Its worse than crack cocaine. Not that I've tried crack but I can imagine...

As for winning, well historical evidence supports my theory. If you aren't too lazy, scroll up and see what I mean. The person who wins is never the person who decides to undent first. In arc1.0 I turned first and you won, in the first loop of arc2.0 you turned and I won... Something to think on. Argg! I'm hastening the process by editting further! I only have 7 more edits in which to come up with an award! /panic!! --Ceridwyn 22:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I can't say for sure... but my soul seems fine, and I'm sure I've edited it a lot too. It wouldn't be that bad though, I imagine it would be on a par with being kidnapped and taken to a magical pixie land full of ice cream and happiness.

Steer clear of temptation I shall then! Unless I find myself with absolutely nothing to do for the next year or so, in which case it might be a possibility. That or crack.

Well then only time will tell! Remember the sooner you edit, the sooner it'll be over. And if you never edit it'll never be over. Though it might never be over anyway. I'm sure there's something Zen in there somewhere. → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:17, 11 Apr 2007

This arc phenomenon is almost worthy of its own webpage IMO. I've been perusing blogs and twitter and such and I sincerely feel there is a place in the greater WWW for beautifully coloured arc conversations.

EEP! Its occurred to me, and I may have counted wrong, but I almost wonder if you might be right about the results of this arc! How can it be so wiley and unpredictable?!

A magical pixie land full of ice cream and happiness 'does' sound rather nice. Ok I'll continue to edit if thats the only consequences.

By all accounts (which I totally made up right then) crack is better for you in the long run.

Those are indeed wise words. I shall meditate on them at length.

Why does the signature have to be two hyphens then four tildes? That seems slightly ridiculous. Perhaps its nearly time for me to work on building my signature?

So I don't usually edit my posts, but Rcmurphy showed me this just before on irc and it raised some interesting questions. Should we allow others to join in the arc so long as they are aware of the few basic rules? It would certainly make for more interesting margin-races. Which got me thinking about arc3.0 I have some ideas about it, and I think we should really start discussing it, for its surely the future of arc technology. --Ceridwyn 00:15, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, why stop at a webpage? How about a whole shrine to the wonders of the arc! Although nothing else could come close to its actual awesomeness.

Haha! You see my logic now! Oh crap, that means I should be thinking up an award now... damn.

I'll combine the reply to the next two lines into one by saying you should meditate on crack. I don't see what the harm could be.

There is a box in the preferences menu that lets you choose what you want to show as your signature. There's a few help pages lying around that'll tell you how to make an awesome signiture, not sure where they are though. And I could do a thing that changes the two dashes into something else, like one em dash, or nothing if you like. The wonders of technology!

As I said in irc, rcmurphy is evil and has jealously had it in for this arc since it started! But if people want to join the arc, I can't really stop them as long as they know how to do it properly. And use colours that actually work. Part of me favours a private type arc, but I think there might at some point be a need for a multi-user arc. I have no idea if the multi-user version would be even more awesome or a horrible failure... too many cooks and all that! It is not a decision to be taken lightly! → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:19, 13 Apr 2007

So close to the margin now, but I'm still uncertain, however I think you're going to need to get working on that award soon :P

I'm not sure the world of shrines is quite ready for the arc phenomenon yet. But its own website perhaps.

Hmm well all this signature business sounds suspiciously too much like work to me. So meh, prolly wont bother ;P

But if you can make a spiffy thing to do stuff easier that sounds good! XD

Clearly the arc's allure has caught rcmurphy in its spell and he is smitten, sadly this is inevitable because the arc's power is strong.

I think your idea of one private arc and one multi-user arc is a good one. Clearly ppl would have to register and pass some sort of Arc Licencing Test before they can edit it, and the test program would teach them about the proper ways to indent, colour choices etc. It may fail horribly but such is the beauty of the interwebs! It would certainly be an interesting experiment. Clearly it wouldnt be a full release number of the arc, like this one or arc3.0 but it could be arc3.1 or possibly even arc2.2.0?

Certainly something we should consider. Maybe it could have a sandbox section so they can't mess it up too bad to start with. And obviously we'd be there to guide and help them discover the wonders of arcdom.

Surely there would be room for something like this here on uncyc? The tools are all here for us to control it what with you being an admin and all... --Ceridwyn 07:55, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I think it's practically certain, barring any catastrophic acts of nature, that you shall be first back to the margin again! Better get thinking.

The sig thing is easy once you get a hang of it! I shall look around for the thing that'll change your two dashes to something else. Any preference? Long single dash? Nothing?

It's true, perhaps one day rc may be able to add to the arc, if he can learn to control his impulses to write in huge letters withthe wrong indentation.

A licence test for adding to the arc is a great idea! It's the perfect way to ensure the arc's greatness for future times to come.

I'm certainly interested in your ideas for arc3, I can harly even fathom anything past 2, so I can't wait to see what the future or arcs holds. Does it involve loops in any way or is that still way in the future?

If there was to be a room it'd probably have to be in someone's subpage or talk page or something. The main forum may seem like a good idea at first, but the masses aren't ready for the wonders of the arc yet, it could confuse them and they just wouldn't know what to do, and it'd all be ruined!

Apologies for taking so long to write this, was distraced by other things that wanted my attention the whole time! → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:05, 14 Apr 2007

Only one undent to go! This is like arc-Christmas! Yipee!!

I always like when the number of colons is few so I don't have to laboriously c&p them on each line. It breaks the flow of my ranting, which is never a good thing.

Does this dash changing thing remove the need for the tildes also? I just find having to type 6 characters a bit well, OTT. I know I can push the sig button, but I prefer to type things by hand, being the budding code monkey that I am. I don't really have any strong preferences at this stage as to what characters I'd prefer to type, just LESS.

Well your nom for UotM looks like its going well, naturally I put my vote in, once I'd 'heard' about it that is. How come you never mentioned it?

You must marvel at Rc's enthusiasm though. His efforts put me in mind of an exhuberant but wayward youth, trying to roll with the big kids. At least he did attempt to use colour, albeit garish and well, overlooking the fact that it didn't work. I think you are correct, in time he may show great potential. As we discussed yesterday arc3.1 may just offer him the place to flourish, after he graduates from the test and of course, arc3.0.1 aka the beginner's slope.

Yes I certainly didn't intend to unleash it on the main namespace, as you have mentioned the world isn't ready for arc3.0 yet. I'd offer my subpages but lets face it, you're far more popular (and clearly world famous, barring the ignorance of my friend) so it would get more exposure here. Perhaps if it took off then one day it could migrate to a place of its own.

Don't feel the need to apologise, I just get awful demanding when I'm going insane from boredom. I need more projects to busy myself with since I quit WoW. I'm like the workoholic who goes into retirement but doesn't know what to do with themselves so they meddle.

Well here they go again, those cursed dashes and tildes >.< --Ceridwyn 00:20, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Wow, feels weird doing only one indent! I liked typing lots of colons, I had got really good at getting just the right number in one go too!

Yeah, I almost fixed it and it worked for a while, but now it doesn't :( Oh well. In a while I'll get the code to make your timestamp pink and only have to use ~~~ to insert your sig. Hooray!

You never asked! Well that and I tend not to whore myself for awards I'm up for (mostly because I'm never up for any awards)

Rc's got a way to go, and despite his denials on irc, it's obvious he wants to join in. I don't see how anyone could not want to join in! In time he and others will have the tools and training necessary to join in, and everyone will be happier for it.

Well I don't really mind where it's at either, but it'll have to start off small first anyway, so anywhere will do really.

Nah, I like to apologise often just in case. As I always say, you're better sorry than unsafe.

Oh crap, only one line to go before I have to think of a new award :s → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:33, 15 Apr 2007

Drumroll please! dnl-dnl-dnl-dnl-dnl-dnl!DN!BOOM!-CCCSSHH!

Oh yeah, that's right, two in a row baby. I'd like to thank my parents and my manager and all the wonderful ppl in #uncyclopedia who distracted me while I should have been doing assignments, and of course, the person without whom this would not have been possible Rcmu- *cough* I mean, Spang!

Well, I'm a bit overcome really, I didn't prepare a speech or anything *unfolds giant piece of paper* this is just such a surprise! It was such an honour just to be nominated...yeah ok I'm done :)

WOOOHOOOOO!!! I WIN I WIN I WIN!!!! ok now I really am done. Promise. Ok just one more,

YIPEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

/me waits for her award :) --Ceridwyn^talk _contribs ^arc2.0. 06:08, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Arctic Arc Award Hooray! You are the winner of the Arctic Arc Award!. Awarded in recognition of the fact that you make the coolest arcs around, and also have a very cool signature. It is awarded only to those who create arcs with extreme levels of cool. You should be proud.

Hooray for you! You win an award! Ignore the fact that it over-relies on a single pun! Hooray! → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:46, 16 Apr 2007

Yay! Thats a gorgeous award! Thank you!!!! :D I must get those moved to my user page sometime :) I'm considering breaking the VoNSE in order to revamp it but tbh that sounds like an awful amount of effort required!

Squeee!! that wee penguie is so cute XD Oh and I thought of a wee update for your user page. Lemme know what you think >:D

Steelblue huh? That is possibly one of the more readable colours you've chosen thus far in arc2.0 :)

I'm still super excited about my signature. I must go around posting on the forums more so everyone notices >:D And I figured out how to put the (UTC) back in but I rather think I won't. Its not necessary.

That reminds me, I'll have to add that award to mah sig too!

Well I spose I'd better hop to and do some work on these dratted DFDs :*( -- Ceridwyn^talk _contribs ^arc2.009:42, 16 April 2007

You are most welcome indeed! Yes, the penguin is rather cute, although being as manly as I am, I much prefer fast cars and explosions and stuff.

I do agree steel blue is a rather good colour. I may use it more often, clichés be damned! Yeah I find the small timestamps much better. The normal ones just seem too large and too long in comparison.

Yes, I keep meaning to add the awards to your page, but I always seem to forget! I'll remember to do it one of these days. But any major reworking of your userpage will probably require you to do it, or give detailed instructions for how you want it to look. I think my original page was the best though, obviously!

What's a DFD? Is that the report thing? Well good luck with it, whatever it is. → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:53, 17 Apr 2007

Ohh I see we went with a div this time. fancy ;P I'd try CSS if I weren't so lazy, I've been learning a bit of the basics.

Of course, cars and explosions are far more manly than cute penguins, or KITTENS for that matter.

Sorry, you didn't honestly think I'd get through a whole edit without mentioning the tiny terror now ruling my life?!

I habs moar pics I'll have to show you sometime XD Its good fun putting captions on them to create our own cat pics. I've emailed them with our versions :) Guna be famous XD

Thank you again for adding all my lovely awards to my page :) Its nice to have it updated!

Your original page? You mean the one with just the randomly coloured ellipses? Yeah that was pretty good but it is nice having a bit more info on it ;P One day I'd like it to be all funny and look like something else but for now I'm happy with the basics.

The whole assignments thing has slowed down even worse now that this little kitten refuses to be quiet unless he's curled up on me sleeping, preferably being petted the whole time too. Makes it rather difficult to try and type a lot, but if he's gonna take up permanent residence on me he'd better get used to typing in a hurry. I do a lot of it. -- Ceridwyn^talk _contribs ^arc2.001:35, 19 April 2007

Yes indeed, divs and CSS are the wave of the future! font tags are so yesterday.

I'll look forward to seeing those pictures! Although good luck getting famous with cat pictures, I could hardly get a quarter way thourough before skipping to the end! There must be millions of them.

You're welcome, I'm suprised I actually ever got round to doing it, it only took me almost a month from first "getting the hint".

What can I say, I like simplicity. And you know when they say, Brevity is wit. You could change the direction of your assignment to "how can I make my uncyclopedia user page look the best". A worthy topic if ever there was one!

Kittens are fun though. You could build him some sort of hammock you can attach to yourself. I was always a cat person, I just don't get dogs. We've been meaning to get a cat/kitten for a while, but never got round to actually getting one. If you ever get bored of it, just get it to swim over here and I'll have it! → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:15, 20 Apr 2007

Woohoo, we've cracked the 45 kilobyte mark. And thus, our arc becomes doubly-goaled!

I agree regarding CSS however that doesn't change the fact that I am, as I'm sure you can sympathise, horribly lazy. Til I experiment with hex colours in a non-deprecated tag I'm just sticking with reliable ole 'font'.

No word yet on the cat pics front, they have yet to respond to my email or update their site with what will obviously be the foremost cat pictures ever seen. A little kitten waits.

There are a few pics on my blog if you still have the link, and oodles more (generally depicting some cute act by the kitten, but not all necessarily that good in the photographic department) on my photobucket which I can link to ya.

A hammock idea had occured to me also, however shes getting past the "I want to spend every moment attached to you in some way" and is now progressing to "I want to scratch and bite you whenever I'm not sleeping, eating or chewing cables" so perhaps its best we leave that idea in the probably-not basket.

As for swimming to Scotland, she *is* rather comfortable in the bath, so if I do ever get tired of her (probably related to the whole scratching/biting passtime I'd imagine) I'll be sure to point her vaguely northwards. And sort of 'around' the whole Europe thing.

Anyhoo the assignments are calling! Adieu --Ceridwyn^talk _contribs ^arc2.004:18, 23 April 2007

Yeah, it won't be long now before people start complaining that I should archive my talk page! If it were up to me completely, I would never archive any of it.

I did see the cat pictures from your blog thing, it's very cute :) Makes me want my own kitten. You may link your photobucket if you like, pictures of cute kittens never get old!

Cool, let me know if you do start her swimming, I'll be sure to look out for her.

Oh and I apologise for almost stealing your colour here, I was experimenting with colours and thought this one was too "fab" to pass up! → Spang ☃☃☃ 12:27, 23 Apr 2007

Wow that is indeed a "fab" colour!

I can understand their crys for archiving when I try to scroll all the way to the bottom of this arc, but I can hardly complain since arcing is our want. On the other hand I suppose since its not their want then perhaps they have a right to complain.

Anyway, we could probably arc elsewhere, but lets leave that for arc3.0. Its nice to have the arc here so everyone can see it ^_^

I'll have to clean up my photobucket first before I link it, but I will soon I promise XD

And I'll be sure to let you know if/when I send the kitten your way!

In the meantime perhaps though you might want to look into obtaining a kitten of your own. I dont see me wanting to part with her anytime soon :P Then we can have "cute-offs" and pit them against each other in a battle of cuteness!

Check me out being all CSSy and stuffs XD Ceridwyn^talk _contribs ^arc2.010:25, 23 April 2007

Wow, check out the divs on that! Welcome to the future!

Well in most cases people have a right to complain about stuff they don't like, unless you're trying to complain about me, in which case they are automatically wrong.

Here's just fine for now. Not just because the "you have new messages" box. Well, ok, it is just that. But my talk page wouldn't be the same without it.

One day, I shall obtain a kitten of my own. And it will be the best kitten there ever was, and ever will be. No offence to your Jezebel, but my kitten's awesomeness would be off the scale. → Spang ☃☃☃ 07:00, 26 Apr 2007

Indeed, what a knockout pair of divs. Phwoar! I almost never see the you have new messages box, it takes me by surprise when I do. Its true though, what would User_talk:Spang be without arc2.0? Well about 49 kilobytes smaller. Buh-dum-boom-chh!

So is my sig really that bad? :( I thought the all pink really gave stealing Ghelae's sig a whole new dimension ^_^

I'd like to see this imaginary kitten of yours try and beat mine, she's getting pretty darned cute these days. XD

Anyway, I'm off to eat cake! (its mah birfday :D ) Byee! Ceridwyn^talk _contribs ^arc2.0 02:50, 28 April 2007

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! Sorry I didn't reply sooner, I was going to, but slept instead. Did you get nice presents?

Indeed, them there's some divs to brag about! Ok I'll stop now.

Well I'll be sure to leave you messages on your talk page every so often then. But that may lead to an unmanageable threads of conversation. Not that I can't multitask, it just involves the exact amount of effort that my sophisticated laziness seems to want to avoid.

Well obviously the pinkness is good as always, but I've always found that style too... loud for my liking. You can see it from webpages three miles away! But I can't stop you if that's what you want!

Well I think my imaginary kitten has the advantage as it isn't bound by the rules of reality!

Well enjoy... I mean, I hope you enjoyed your cake! → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:21, 30 Apr 2007

THANK YOU!!! :) Fair enough, sleep is very important!

You don't have to leave me messages, I generally check my watchlist more than my talk page so its fine :P

It is loud yes, but I felt it was time to be a bit more visible and active around uncyc, so I think its fitting. Its less jarring on the eyes than some sigs though. Its just a phase really :) I'm sure it will pass!

Hmmm good point. Not being bound by the rules of reality MAY give your imaginary kitten some advantage, but does he/she/it have badges created in its likeness? I think not.

Indeed, sleep is of the utmost importance.

Yeah, watchlists are cool, but you don't get a fancy box telling you when it's changed! I suppose it might be more exciting if it happens less often though.

Well I suppose it isn't the worst sig, maybe it's just because I prefer subtlety over loud brightness (except when it comes to arcs) :P Though speaking of sigs, I see you forgot to put yours in the last message... tut tut! Though I suppose any message in that pink doesn't need to be signed really :)

Aw damn, actual badges are way cooler than imaginary badges :( Do you wear those around the place? Heheheh. That's cool.

This is also a pretty cool colour. Heheheheh :) → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:46, 02 May 2007

Ahem whoops, I wrote that one in a rush IIRC, I was on my way to a job interview. To which I was subsequently late, because of that post. However I got the job nonetheless, which goes to show, you can post in your arc and eat... erm yeah.

Yeah I do wear them around, although I forgot to put them on today because they are still in my scanner >.>

That is a pretty cool colour indeed. Its no Ceridwyn Pink TM but its pretty cool.

I can't think of much to say right now, I'm sitting in Accounting class feeling my brain literally liquifying.

52 kilobytes now ^_^

Edit because I just can't wait til my next turn to tell you this, Dylan Moran is doing a show here in town in a fortnight! Looks like I'll see him before you! I'll have the sign etc ready for the grand photo taking! Ceridwyn^talk _contribs ^arc2.0 04:02, 02 May 2007

Congratulations! I'm willing to stake my reputation on the fact that it was because of the arc you got the job. Ignore the fact that I don't actually have a valid reputation to stake.

I think you may have missed the point of my colour choice... it's more to do with the hex code for it that the actual colour. :) Like this similar one.

Heh, it's growing all the time, and one day, the arcs will account for most of the content on uncyclopedia's servers! That'll be a good day.

Heh, cool, you should have a great time, he's very funny! Turns out he actually lives in Edinburgh though, so maybe I could see him before you if I find out where he lives and stalk him. Probably too lazy to do that though :) → Spang ☃☃☃ 07:30, 04 May 2007

Its most definately because of the arc that I got the job :P

Heh I hadn't looked at the hex codes, but thats pretty funny! XD How long did those take you to figure out?

I look forward to that day for certain. T'will be a marvel to behold.

I doubt you'll see him before me though, the show is in 2 wks, so most likely he's touring around other places one would imagine. And yeah, you are much to lazy to do that just to beat me at seeing a man from opposite sides of the world. I doubt theres even an award for that. Perhaps we should make one. Especially if he ISN'T touring, because then we have fairly even chances of winning! I hope it will be a good show, I'm sure it will be. So 'cited!!! XD

Oh, did you see my spleen?! O_O I was most surprised by it! Surely my trivial contributions don't warrant that! Ceridwyn^talk _contribs ^arc2.0 08:35, 04 May 2007

Hopefully it'll help me on that front now too, seeing as I'm looking for a job now too. I forgot to put my arc skills on my CV though, so I may have ruined my chances already. :(

Didn't take any time at all, I just had to think up words that had letters 1 - F in, no problem!

Yes, I saw your spleen, it's icky. Oh, you mean the award? Yeah, saw that too. Congratulations! Well I'm sure you deserve it. With the non-voting awards, basically all you have to do it have someone think you deserve it and give it to you, and hey presto, award! Maybe it's because these days everyone's just used to giving out their own awards, people don't gie awards as often as they used to. → Spang ☃☃☃ 12:51, 06 May 2007

Never fear, arc skills are plain to see for the trained interviewer. If the job is right, they'll be able to spot your vast arc experience a mile away. /crosses fingers for you, best of luck!

Well it was very clever, it never occured to me. Of course, I don't have to think up new and exciting colours each time so perhaps I'm not pushing my creative envelope far enough.

Eeep you saw my real spleen! Thats scary and creepy in many ways :P I'm sure Olipro would read something into that. Curse him. Anyway, yeah I know that its just handed out but I was surprised anyone noticed me. I guess the giant pink boxes is a bit of a give away. I find them useful to ensure that I've voted on everything. I just blur my eyes and scroll quickly down the VFD/VFH page and make sure I see the pink boxes, the voices say that I'm allowed to sleep.

I suppose I'll take your pointing out the irony of whoring something on my own user talk page as an invitation to whore it up a bit here, at least its somewhere else. Though I'm not certain people take the time to read all of arc2.0 these days. Anyway: User:Ceridwyn/Proofreading Service User:Ceridwyn/Proofreading Service User:Ceridwyn/Proofreading Service. So far business is quiet but going well. Two customers that appear to be satisfied which is nice :D

Well, should really do some work! Ceridwyn^talk _contribs ^arc2.0 11:11, 06 May 2007

That's good then. I knew the arc would come in handy for something other than making my talk page look cool!

Yes, it is rather difficult thinking up new colours that are also good! I've resisted resorting to using {{random colour}} so far. I think this was in fact the hardest colour to come up with yet! It took ages! I might be lying!

Well then it might be appropriate, giant pink boxes gets you a giant purple blob in return. I'm sure it make some kind of sense, somewhere.

Feel free to whore it all you like, but remember to always be safe when whoring. I probably don't need it myself, as my spelling and grammar are naturally impeccable, aside from punctuating lists properly. But that's an iffy area anyway :)

When I get round to writing more articles (I have a couple of ideas floating around) I'll be sure to drop it in. Though you may well spell check it anyway, you seem to have done most of my other articles :) → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:55, 09 May 2007

Wow, the page now suggests that it might be helpful to archive the arc. Its under attack from all sides!!! Vigilante arc justice shall be doled out!

I dunno, I think we might be entering a whole new era in arc colouration...

Did you do the spelling error on purpose then? Because if not, its very hilarious. I've resisted editing it so that you can see the error of your ways. Well ok, I have corrected it twice thus far then managed to undo it before posting.

Heh I think I've only edited the water powered bus of yours that I know of anyway, I tend to only encounter pages if they are on VFH these days and those certainly keep me out of trouble. The amount of articles on there with spelling errors gives me the chills frankly. And you are generally very impeccable with your spelling so it wouldn't give me a lot to do! Aside from that one typo in the above post...

I had an idea for an article today but I'm not sure I'd have the expertise to write it yet, but if done correctly it would be just darn hilarious. Doubt I'd have time though, writing Kralnor took me 3 solid days 9-5 to complete and I just don't have days off like that anymore.

Speaking of big pink blobs, you haven't mentioned my more elegant new signature! How rude! Especially after you and Famine guilted me into changing it. At least he complimented the new one, albeit backhandedly. ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 03:30, 09 May 2007

Gasp! That's not Ceridwyn Pink™! What kind of madness is this?!

The arc shall only be archived when it is finished... and it'll never be finished! Haha!

You'll be kicking yourself then, because there were actually two spelling errors there. And a grammar error! None of them intentional :( I've corrected them because I cannot live with the shame. I guess I just wasn't paying too much attention when I typed those out...

Well the best thing to do is to just sit on your ideas until they're reasy to be written down, and it'll be easy. Well, that's what I've been saying, and I haven't written anything in forever, so maybe it's not the best advice.

Yes, your elegant new signature is far better on my eyes than the last one. Bravo! It bears a few style similarities to mine, which is always a plus! Simple elegance is far better than giant boxes. And it's still noticeable, so it's all good! → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:17, 09 May 2007

No its not Ceridwyn Pink™, I thought it might be funny to see what will happen eventually if we continue in this vein...

Although I suppose it will take a LOOOONG time to show up...still, we'll know!

Curses, I did only see one >.< And I see one in what you just wrote also...

I disagree, if I don't get the idea down on "paper" while its still exciting, I'll never do it. It might not even be funny. But it was at the time, we were talking in class about how to Feng Shui your computer. Including the system unit physically as well as the desktop and such. We thought it was quite hilarious and I do love a nice HowTo.

Thank you :) I initially only tweaked it as a demonstration but after that I found I was rather fond of the thing. ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 04:57, 09 May 2007

It'll take quite a while for anything noticeable occurs I think! I think the servers would fall apart before we saw a difference in it! Assuming we type very, very slowly.

Heh, would I be allowed to add "any comments I make" to your proofreading thing? It would save me a lot of trouble! Not that I ever make mistakes or anything.

Heheh, a computer Feng Shui sounds good :) There's probably a whole lot you can do with that too, could be a lot of fun!

Yes, that sig is indeed the better of the two! Just my opinion though :)

And check this out - I've undented... but only half! Haha. Bet you weren't expecting that! Yeah, each colon is two ems of indent, so I decided to only undent one, for a change. I thought it might be interesting. → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:42, 11 May 2007

Aww this takes away all the fun colon adding :(

We'll just see how long it takes I suppose. Perhaps we should co-ordinate a rainbow coloured portion one day. Hmmm.

I think I can see a slight colour difference but I might just be imagining things!

As for adding "any comments you make" to my proofreading service, probably not. Primarily because I thought we had a Non-Restrospective-Editing agreement? That and I can't be bothered following you around checking everything you write. Especially because you never make any mistakes :P

Well we thought so too re:computer Feng Shui. I guess one day I'll get started on that.

Thank you for the sig compliment :P

Dunno bout this half-undenting though. Its going to mess up the symmetry! That and I can't work out how to do it. ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 06:43, 11 May 2007

I find the colon adding a bit annoying really, the new way only involved making a number one or two less. But we can do it this way too... but my way is the wave of the future, I'll tell you! One day everyone'll be using it!

A rainbow portion would be cool! I'm not sure how long I can keep up this pink, there's almost too much pink... almost.

I think the Non-Restrospective-Editing agreement only applies to the arc, I'm fine with any other comments being edited. I don't think I need any more proofreading on my comments, they're all obviously perfect as they are.

computer feng shui is coming along nicely now! Maybe just getting the idea down is the key then. That's one less excuse for me to not write anything! One day there will be no excuses left and I'll just have to sit down and write. :/ → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:28, 12 May 2007

If you can teach me how much to change the numbers by, then we could change, however it will make arc3.0 less accessible to others...

I don't believe theres such a thing as "too much pink."

I think having the time on your hands is also helpful, theres so many other little things to do around the place (hundreds more for admins I imagine) that get in the way, you almost have to wait til all those have been done and you're really bored. At least, thats what happened for me. Or have something else even less exciting you should be doing and use writing the article as a way of procrastinating doing that.

Can't think of anything else to write too tired. Dylan Moran was hilarious and wonderful and well worth the money :) You'll have to make an effort to go see him live sometime! ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 11:59, 12 May 2007

It's actually quite easy. Each indent is worth 2 "em"s. So if, like above, there's 18 colons/indents, that's 36 ems. So the next one for me is 34 ems. Simple! Though I'm sure anyone else could just use colons if they wanted.

Indeed, I take it back, pink is great in all quantities. Though I may have to change colour sometime... I'm used to colour hopping, I don't think I'm ready to settle down to one colour just yet! :)

Nah, I'm sure I do a lot less than people think I do, I just do it in a way that makes it seem like it's a lot of work. I actually do practically nothing. In fact, it's mostly deleting stuff, so that probably counts as negative. But yeah, eventually I'll get it done. Maybe I'll start writing it in order to put off archiving this page.

Ah, I had forgotten Dylan Moran was so soon! Glad you enjoyed it, he's great. I've already seen him live, remember? ;) But yeah if I see he's doing a show here soon I'll definitely go and see him again. I can't remember what crazy thing you were going to get him to do, but did you manage it? → Spang ☃☃☃ 08:04, 14 May 2007

Woohoo welcome to the FF3380's! /me blows party noise maker thingamyjig. Wow I haven't replied here in a while, whoops. Kinda been busy with schoolwork. And its only gonna get worse, 5 more weeks of the semester. Then its all coding, all day baby! Can't wait. And the test went really well, so you must have been sending some good telepathic help! Thanks! Doesn't appear anyone has noticed the switcheroo yet ;) I can't remember the exact details either, and it was you who was meant to do it. I think it involved a squid, a seagreen shirt, a placard with "#FF3399" written on it and the backdrop was the Arc D'Triomphe but I'm sure I forgot something. And no, I was with friends who would have thought I was a tad weird. Not to mention Dylan Moran himself. :P ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 07:15, 20 May 2007

Yay! However... Sorry about changing the colour, but I felt I needed to change from pink. Not that pink isn't awesome or anything, but I felt the time was right for me to move on, colour-wise. My apologies I could keep this incremental pink run going.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I've hardly any time these days, in between sleeping, eating, drinking and watching TV. Life is tough.

Well done on your test! I'm glad my mental projection of the correct solution was of use. I'll be sure to help on the next one too. And in return, seeing as you're an accountant and everything, you can mentally send me money. That's a totally fair trade.

Indeed! I made it blend into the background colour better, and someone questioned what it was, but apart from that I'd say nobody has noticed! Haha!

They would only think it was weird because they don't understand! Heh, just finished watching my way through 3 series of Black Books, it's such an awesome show! Dylan Moran is great. → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:51, 21 May 2007

Ok, today's arc entry is quite offtopic, I have some questions:

1. With the {{poll}} if voters are not logged in but are all on the same IP, does it allow each of them to vote or will the second, third and so on voters get "You have already voted on this poll"
2. If so, is there any easy way around this?
3. If 20 or so people all edit a subpage of my user area, whats the best way to let people know its not vandalism

Reason I ask, is I have to do a presentation on something to do with the internet for tech and I thought, hey why not do wikis, because I have to do a lame activity with the audience so I figured having things on a subpage they can edit would be easy, however I can't sit there and wait while the whole class signs up for a username, so they would all be editing as IPs, and because its all originating from the poly we all have the same IP... Reason I wanted to do the poll was because it was fairly simple, not requiring anyone to get into the coding.

Thoughts? ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 08:54, 22 May 2007

Edit: Also can you please please please help me do the image replacement thingy of the logo, either to one like yours (I tried copying yours but it wouldnt cover the Uncyc bit properly :(( or replacing the pic entirely. Can't seem to figure out how to do it! I'll be forever in your debt! ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 12:15, 23 May 2007

I think I've answered all these questions already :D Man, I'm good!

Oh wait, the vandalism one I didn't. Well, the best thing would to be on IRC at the time, but that may not be possible in a presentation. Probably the best thing to do is just watch for people reverting it and just revert it back with a note in the edit summary saying it's ok.

I think it'd be quite cool to do a presentation on wikis. Tie it into Time's person of the year being "you" and stuff because the best websites these days are pretty much run by their users, and wikis are a prime example of that. Or something. *reminds self that it's not his assignment, and doesn't actually need to do any work for it* Aaanyway.

I think the new style of indenting is coming along well. It now comes more naturally than typing millions of colons anyway! → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:09, 23 May 2007

Yeah IRC isn't an option, nor can I really sit there and watch for reverts during the presentation, so I think I'll just put up a post on the forums letting everyone know when its gonna happen (my time) and again just before it starts telling ppl not to worry about a mass of anon IPs editing my userpages. Then I can just QVFD the lot afterwards :) Is it possible to get temporary protection on the userpages that form my presentation once I've finished editing them? I'd hate to advance to page number 3 to find all it says on the datashow is "This sucks!!!" because some wise guy in the class thought it would be funny. :( Hmmm actually that Time person of the year thing isn't a bad idea actually! Thanks for the tip! ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 05:03, 23 May 2007

A reply! Finally! Woo!

Well I'm glad you did so well and I could help out! I'm sure the telepathic pass vibes I was sending helped too :)

You should get some kind or award for getting some actual real life benefit out of uncyc! → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:57, 29 May 2007

So, your telepathic pass vibes are 2 for 2 now, I just got my marks back from that web development test, 95% /dance! Third highest mark in the whole class! Waaheey! So I'd highly recommend your telepathy vibes to anyone now! Spang-Vibes™ have changed my life! Well not much else to add at the moment, since we've probably covered all this IRC mostly :P ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 01:47, 31 May 2007

Awesome, well done! I don't think I congratulated you for this one on irc, too busy contents-hating :P But only 95%? Damn, I'll need to perfect my technique still.

Spang-Vibes™? That's definitely something I need to start offering to people. :D

Yeah, talking on irc ruins all the conversation that could go in the arc! Perhaps I should stop using it and concentrate here. Though that would lead to an even bigger talk page. I'm only 12 sections away from having 100 sections! And it's larger than any article page on uncyc! And if arc2.0 was an article by itself, it would be the 19th biggest article on uncyc! Woo! → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:13, 01 Jun 2007

Heh I liked your colour, its actually a very nice grey as well as being amusing! Decided to try something else, though I doubt I'll change from Ceridwyn Pink™, its just a fad...

<whine> Spangleeeeessss, I'm booooorreeeddd. Accounting class is sooo boring. Wish IRC worked in this part of the tech :( Even talking about Bananadine is better than this. </whine>

Sorry, I thought I had replied to this already, but I just remembered we discussed the stats in IRC and I never got around to replying. Whoops! I do intend to make you another long talk page award sometime. Perhaps when it gets to 100 sections. Those are indeed thrilling statistics though. Did you uncover any new stats? I think arc2.0 should be an article by itself sometime. Perhaps if you do ever archive this, and I'm not suggesting you should, it could be moved to its own page. ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0

Heheh, I see what you did there :P This colour's not bad. Or maybe it is. I don't remember.

I'm sorry, I'll work on strengthening my telepathic powers so we'll be able to conduct a conversation using only the power of my mind. So there'll be no need for IRC, and it may also mean the men in black with sunglasses and earpieces who've been following me won't be able to listen in on the conversation.

Yeah, I know what you mean, I do that all the time. Any award is a good thing! I'll never say no to one :) No new stats though, though to be honest I didn't really look any further than I did before.

If I do archive this page, I'll either give the arcs their own special pages or just leave them on here. Though leaving them on here would make the archiving not very good, this arc accounts for almost half of the size of the page by itself! I think it wouldn't be quite the same on another page, but it might be necessary eventually :( → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:58, 07 Jun 2007

Hmmm this one might be pushing the whole "color" thing a bit far...

Speaking of IRC its really quiet and boring right now :P Regarding the men in black, don't think they can't hear your thoughts. Haven't you watched Heroes???

Well, we're getting back towards the margin now, though I think this method should in theory make it easier to pick a winner, I'm too bad at maths and lazy to try and work it out.

I really should be working =/ Too many assignments /sigh ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 07:23, 07 June 2007

Oh this is too far! Sort of.

If it's quiet and boring I'll have to get on there to liven it up! Although I am about to sleep, so I could only stay on for a short time.

Don't worry about the men in black, I'll also learn how to encrypt my thoughts so they can't read them. It can't be that difficult.

I think I know who it's going to be... again :P Unless someone happened to undent by an irregular amount, which might make things a little more interesting :D → Spang ☃☃☃ 07:55, 07 Jun 2007

You're only prolonging the inevitable with the sneaky undents :P That is all! ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 09:29, 07 June 2007

Ew C007IE5! Hee hee.

I can't believe I haven't replied here for like 12 days! I'm so ashamed. I'll try to do better in the future!

If I really wanted to prolong the inevitable, I'd start undenting one pixel at a time :D → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:41, 20 Jun 2007

That's ok, my last edit didn't really leave much to reply to I'll admit, so I'll forgive you this once! Phew I've been really busy the last couple weeks anyway, lots of assignments and I sort of fell off the no-WoW wagon which was kinda inevitable I guess. Just went away for the weekend too and came back to find my hard drive was dead, so yeah, haven't been around the Uncyc halls much of late. Anyway to undent one pixel at a time wouldn't you have to know how many pixels an em is? I guess being as awesome as you are you probably know that already though.
My CSS/XHTML skills have come along in leaps and bounds in the last few weeks because I've just finished the huge webpage assignment I had. Its like old hat to me now /flex. Once my computer is back from the shop I'll have to pop onto IRC, holidays atm, not much else to do though may have two job leads to follow up! ^_^ ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 04:54, 26 June 2007

Indeed, once I'd resolved to write a reply, I had to work to make the reply worth writing!

Yeah, I'm pretty busy too. Though busy doing stuff which involves the computer, so I still find myself on uncyc a lot of the time! Completely unintentionally of course... I just black out and find myself ICUing pages, no idea how I got there. Pretty weird.

Well... one em is just the height of the current font, so it differs depending on what you're viewing the page with. So it probably wouldn't work too well. You could use ens, which are half the size of ems. I don't think it really makes enough difference to warrant further research though! Ems are all good so far. Remember when people still used colons to indent? Ha ha ha!

I'm glad your skillz have come along, I look forward to being astounded by your knowledge any time soon! You can code up something magic for the arc, perhaps, or something.

Oh and I would have nominated you this month for UotM, but you havn't been around much this month :P Thought you'd have a better chance if I saved it for next month or later :) → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:31, 01 Jul 2007

Oh noes! You archived! Eeeep! Tis truly a sad day, but an inevitable one I suppose. It greatly amuses me that its still over the suggested limit and its only just begun! Muhuhahahaha!!!

I daresay my skills shall never amaze you. Amuse perhaps, but not amaze, however they amaze me in terms of how far I've come!

One day I shall have to pick your brains on the topic of display differences btwn IE & FF. Perhaps. Perhaps I don't really care enough.

Do not worry on the topic of UotM (though I believe we discussed this in IRC). I'm thoroughly dismayed to be out in the lead despite all my best protests. :(

VOTE SbU people!!!! DO ITTT!!!!!

Well, best get back to work!

Drat, forgot to sign it. This keyboard has no tilde :( Having to use the button sucks. ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 12:31, 06 July 2007

Indeed I did indeed archive indeed. I was coming for a while, but I felt that 111 sections was a good point to archive. And then more people made sections, but whatever.

Yes, you shall have to show me some more of what you can do. The turtles site was pretty good! Not to mention the enthralling subject matter. There's quite a few differences between IE and FF, but I'm not exactly an expert on that. You're welcome to quiz me on anything I do know though!

And congratulations again on your feature! May it be the first of many! We'll get our collaboration featured one day, mark my words! That may involve actually working on it though :s ... all in good time! → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:48, 11 Jul 2007

Hmmm you never saw the turtle site though? :P Thanks for the congratulations, I'm really really stoked. I always thought that article might have been almost feature worthy but to actually have someone nom it and it win, that was awesomely awesome! Sorry my reply is so slow, I've been playing WoW again, and working for the last 2 wks, so my Uncyc time has been sorely depleted. Though lately when I have checked on things all I seem to see is pointless bickering and it makes me sad and I just leave again. :( I hope you are enjoying the balmy Scottish summer, its bloody freezing over here! :P~ ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 12:42, 26 July 2007

D'oh, forgot about this yet again!

Yeah I saw the turtle site, I think... I remember some kind of turtle site anyway. Or maybe it was just screenshots of it. But that counts!

Shame you finally gave in to the WoW urges, but it was probably going to happen eventually. As long as you WoW responsibly, you should be fine!

Oh yes, the Scottish summer is going great, we even had a few days where it didn't rain! That was pretty good. I can't wait for some global warming to brighten the place up a bit! → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:06, 26 Jul 2007

I wondered if you'd forgotten me again *sniff* Oh yeah, I showed you the mock ups before I started! See my blog for more about the whole WoW thing. Eeeep evil colour!!! /scared Did you see my new article idea? Lemme know what you think re:idea. User:Ceridwyn/Lolcats

:D ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 02:12, 26 July 2007

I'd nevar forget! Though I am pretty lazy, it might seem like I've forgotten sometimes, but there's always the intention somewhere in the back of my mind!

Ah, I tried to check your blog after that last comment actually, but my internet was being bad and wouldn't do what it was told. I wonder who the mystery commenter could be? ;) It's not really a bad thing that you started again, it was just a little good-natured teasing :)

Aha, the article's looking good! Maybe see if you can work lolcode in there somewhere? A code by which the lolcat debaters agreed to conduct themselves by? I dunno. → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:29, 26 Jul 2007

Nice indent :P I'm sure User:Tom Mayfair would approve. He seems to have a fascination with the stuff.

Heh I had a feeling that Anonymous was you :P I've subsequently written a blog post thanks to you! I hope you're happy!

Thanks, MO has improved it tenfold already, but that LOLCODE idea is SHARP! You are always full of such clever ideas! ^_^ I like how you always see angles like that on things I'm working on, that totally work in with it but I'd never have thought of it! ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 03:48, 26 July 2007

Heheh. How about this for a mathsy indent, and relevant colour!

Heheh. Yes, very happy! :P

Yeah, well it would be a lot more helpful if I could actually do something about what I think up! Whenever I get to actually writing it down, I usually just draw a blank. That's why my article-writing progress is so painfully slow. But I will get there one day! I think the article should do well, I hadn't realised uncyclopedia was lacking an article on lolcats! If I'm struck with any more inspiration I'll be sure to let you know or add a little :) → Spang ☃☃☃ 09:15, 26 Jul 2007

Oooooh very clever :P I enjoyed that immensely, though I'll confess I had to google it. But I immediately appreciated it once I twigged. I'm sure you'll have no trouble with this one then. AND semi-relevant colour (if you use your right-brain). But lets not carry it on because this one was a stretch as it was, and maths definitely isn't my forte.

Yes I was rather surprised it didn't have an article already too. The idea popped into my head whilst walking to tech at the ungodly hour of 7.45am yesterday. Its amazing that my brain was functioning at all, let alone having good ideas!

Now if I could just focus on this assignment long enough to finish it I could get back to my article >.< Please feel free to add to it if the muse strikes! ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 02:22, 27 July 2007

WOO! Back at the margin!!!! And it only took 3 and a half months! Hooray!

Took a while to get that indent, but I got it as I was googling! Still not getting the colour though... apart from it being to most difficult to read colour yet!

Heheh, yeah I find the best article ideas always come when my brain is only half switched on...

Congratulations! Your award will be arriving soon, I sent it via registered post so you can expect that any year now.

Yeah I thought perhaps the colour might be a bit farfetched. If you look at the Wikipedia entry you might get where I got the idea from...

3 and a half months? Really? I guess you haven't won the margin race in a lot longer than that too. I call haxx, all those tricksey indents and stuff. A girl knew where she was with colon indenting, you've gone and confused the whole issue :P ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 11:57, 28 July 2007

Awesome, I can't wait! I'm hoping for the biggest ice cream in the world. Not that I'm getting my hopes up too high or anything...

Oh I think I see now. Maybe. I was never actually that good at maths! I think I'll just stick to good old colour names for now.

Well, last time I got back to the margin first was just under 8 months ago! It's been a long time coming! But you have to admin that golden ratio indents are a lot more fun than normal colon indents! → Spang ☃☃☃ 12:22, 29 Jul 2007

The World's Biggest Ice Cream! Ceridwyn awards you the World's Biggest Ice Cream! For nerdy indents and corresponding colours, finally winning the race back to the margin, (after a mere 8 months) and for pep-talk services rendered! Please don't tell Port Isabel, Texas that I "borrowed" it!!!

<3 ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 12:36, 04 August 2007

AWESOME!!!

That is totally worth the 8 month wait! → Spang ☃☃☃ 07:35, 08 Aug 2007

And what, pray tell, am I meant to be able to reply to in that stupendous 2 line post, other than to rage at your will-he, nill-he indenting! I was trying to establish some sort of standard indent amount, lest we ruin the beautius curves of the arc. ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 01:33, 09 August 2007

Well... there's more than what I had to reply to... though I did get a most fantastic award! Speaking of which, I just found time to update my awards page! It's finally up to date a vaguely sorted in some kind of order! Woo!

Sorry about the indenting, it's just hard to accept that those crazy days, where we would indent without rhyme or reason as we felt was right, are gone. Good times. Though I guess it's probably time that order and consistency had their turn again. It does tend to make better arcs I suppose, and that's the most important thing!

So how's New Zealand these days? All's good here, the festival's on now, so there's lots to do and see! It's awesome here at this time. → Spang ☃☃☃ 09:36, 10 Aug 2007

Those were indeed heady days of indenting however we felt like indenting, but those days are gone. Move with the times :P Because arc3.0 is going to require some pretty strict indenting rules!

Sorry its been so long updating this, kinda haven't been around here much for a while :) Hope you are well! ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 03:23, 06 September 2007

Oh my! I have replied! I am fine, still doing whatever and stuff, you know. I'm looking for a flatmate at the moment, tis stressful getting all the stuff organised!

How are you? How's your course going? Still WoWing? → Spang ☃☃☃ 08:54, 16 Sep 2007

Hope the search for the flatmate is not so stressful now, have you found someone yet? Did the wowplayer dissolve into his office-chair? I'm ok, course is very stressful and the internet credit costs are owning me atm, so can't really do much on Uncyc, not to mention I have less easy, boring classes atm too :( That and WoWing again, but I'm cutting back atm, new flat ftw! XD We has sunshine and outside and stuffs XD How have things around here been coping without me? ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 07:14, 24 September 2007

Yeah, got a new flatmate now! He's pretty cool. And no, the WoW one is still here, the other one moved out! But he doesn't play WoW much any more anyway. Now I just need to find a job in order to pay for my internet costs! Do you mean you got a new flat? Cool! Is it a nice place? Damn you and your sun and shine! We have rain now. Actually, I quite like the rain, but warmth is good too. Well, things have been far less colourful without you for one! Except one guy down at the bottom of this page that likes random colours too. Random colours are always good. Other than that, I think uncyc is coping... just. → Spang ☃☃☃ 12:53, 25 Sep 2007

Yay for new flatmates! Yes we got a new flat! Its very nice, very sunny and has a bath and an outside (of sorts)! Sorry bout the sunny again, but I bet your rain is all cool and erm...Scottish? I picture red haired women frolicking in the misty highlands, since I was only 3 when I actually went to Scotland :P I just can't find the time for Uncyc atm :( My new timekilling obsession atm is Facebook. Don't suppose you've succombed to its lure yet? Glad to hear you are all struggling by without me however :P Don't cry yourselves to sleep TOO much :)

<3 ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 08:22, 10 October 2007

Yes yes, you have lots of sun and I don't, I get it! It sounds good though. Actually, I just got back from holiday in Barcelona, so had lots of sunny sun there. Also a spot of torrential rain and thunder storms in the evenings, but sun is the main thing. True, if the rain here is anything, it's Scottish. And cold. And you remember correctly, as that's all we do here. In between the maidens' frolicking, we go out and toss cabers and fight for freedom and stuff. It's jolly good fun. I am actually on facebook, but not very much. I can never be bothered finding and friending the people I know, so I just have the people who made me join and my mum as friends. These things are far too much effort for my liking! Yes, we're getting by, but I'm sure there are hundreds of spelling mistakes and incorrectly puctuated lists accumulating for you to fix when you find the time! → Spang ☃☃☃ 17:59, 12 Oct 2007

Barcelona?! Lucky! Sounds divine! That's the suckiest bit about NZ, its so damn far from anywhere that travel is too bloody expensive for the likes of me. Ah the caber tossing. I can just see you out there beside some picturesquely misty loch in your kilt and sporrin ;P Hmm how to find you on facebook, there doesn't appear to be any "Spangs" :P (Well except this chick and a few other Nordic sounding crazy cats. They might be fun friends to make. Anyway...) and I daresay a search by your actual name would return a few too many results to be viable :P Perhaps you could add me :P Yes it does rather sound like the proofreading is starting to back up a tad. Now if only I could find the motivation to come back and do some. Maybe if someone wrote an in-game Uncyc mod that would help. I could be proofreading during raids. I'm sure my guild won't mind. ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 10:21, 20 October 2007

Aha! Finally replying! I had to choose whether to reply here or on facebook, I chose here cos I was here anyway and thought I might as well. I'll might do a facebook one later too, if I feel up to the challenge. Though the lack of colours is mighty disappointing! I'm sure there must be some kind of upgraded wall that does colours, there's at least a million different poke applications, somebody must have thought up a better wall.

I actually have a reason for not replying so soon this time... I have hardly any time these days, because I got a job! Woohoo! I could tell you what it is, but I'd have to kill you. Maybe I'll leave that for facebook where there's less spies who I'm convinced are out to get me. Who else would they be out to get, eh?!

Here's to having even less time to do stuff! And money! No longer will I have to forage for dried squid! Despite never having achieved a squid award of my own.

Perhaps you just need to imagine proofreading as a kind of raid on badly spelled articles. Small and common mistakes are easy to spot and kill, but complex fragmented sentences with bad grammar are like the bosses, you need to find their weak points to defeat them. You could totally market that game to people and make millions! Assuming the one person who would want to play it was also willing to pay millions for it. → Spang ☃☃☃ 08:19, 05 Nov 2007

Yeah I still think you ought to write the arc app for facebook :P Apparently people don't seem to realise the arc is still alive and kicking! How rude! We should tally how many months total this one has been going for. I suck at maths and numbers and such so I nominate you for this prestigious job.

You do realise that if you don't reply to me soon enough I actually can tell your mum on you now :P

Yay for jobs! Go on you can trust me with the top secret information of what your new job is ;P But yes perhaps on facebook. My job is apparently offering me more hours tomorrow so yay for that too! Jobs all round! What do you mean never having achieved a squid award of your own? The squid award was MADE for you!!!

Lol your proofreading/raid analogy was tres cute. Especially the last line! XD However you neglected to bring the phat lewtz into the equation. Wheres the fun in raiding apostrophes and list punctuation if I don't get any sick purples from it?

In other wikinews I fought bravely to defend the right of my most revered shan'do, The Great and Mystic Lord Kralnor (may Blizzard bless him with many epics) to be in the main namespace. And with it, my article on him. There were tears and tantrums but I came through in the end after hours pleading his case! They have a policy on player character profiles being relegated to their server subspace but clearly he surpasses a mere "player character," no, he is a Legend. ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 10:28, 07 November 2007

I seem to have left the arc for altogether too long again! But don't tell my mum on me! But I see it's almost at 100kb, just by itself, which will truly be a great milestone to behold! It has just slowed somewhat, it is still as great as it ever was, if not greater.

Yeah, my job isn't actually interesting. Just working in a shop. It's pretty good though! I've been terribly lazy with facebook too, it just seems like a lot of effort. Maybe when I'm less lazy I'll actually do more with it.

And damn, I can't believe I forgot the Squid award was mine! I'm terribly ashamed now. It's been too long. Maybe I should study old sections of the arc more often. Like arc history. I expect that'll become a real class in the future, when there's many tomes of the arc to be studies and wondered at.

Maybe you just have to imagine your own sick purples. But then if you can imagine your own, there's no real need to actually do anything to get them, and then there's no point. Ah well.

I'm glad you're taking your wiki skills to other wikis and showing them who's boss! Clearly, the article can't be relegated to a server subspace, it is far more important than that! Maybe there should be an award for having an article on the most different wikis at once. A million bonus points if you can get wikipedia to take it! → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:22, 20 Nov 2007

Heh its ok, we're allowed to be arc-lazy from time to time :) But I won't make any promises not to tell your mum :P

Yes we do draw near to the elusive 100kb mark. How will we celebrate this momentous occasion? And the arc is definitely always improving. With each new addition we raise it to new levels of awesomeness. Recent reports suggest that this might now be in the Top 10 Arcs of the Century!

I've probably already been enrolled in arc history for next semester I don't doubt. At least that promises to be more interesting the other classes. If I go back that is, working is certainly more fun in the wallet department.

I'm sure that Wikipedia's request for me to post my article there will be in the Inbox any day now. Kralnor doesn't get out of bed for less than a million a day now. Million hits that is...

Hope work is treating you well! Be sure to stop by Facebook sometime, I've sent you a million or three invitations to all sorts of fun things, still no arc application though =S ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 06:22, 04 December 2007

Oh my, I had completely forgotten it was my turn to repy to the arc! D: I'm getting bad at paying attention to the arc in my old age! I'm so ashamed.

I think this should take us over 100kb... a momentous occasion! Cause for celebration indeed. Forget top 10 arcs of the century, it must now be the best arc in the world... probably. Not that it can't be even better...

Work is finished now, was only an xmas temp thing, so back to looking for a job now! Maybe I could get a job as a professional arc person. That'd be good. As long as I remembered to actually pay attention to it!

Yeah, I have a million facebook requests for stuff, I've no idea what each one does! So I just left them where they are. I might venture into the requests one day to see what they all are. I only hope that when we're attacked by zombies in real life, "ignore" is one of the options they give! Never really got into facebook that much though. It's still too much effort to find and add everyone I know!

And Arc 2.0's 1st birthday is coming up next month! It's grown so much, I'm so proud! That should be a joyous occasion. I'll put a note in my diary and everything. → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:10, 21 Jan 2008

Hooray! You replied! Why only last night I was pre-emptively mourning the arc's demise. Without you its just a pale echo of itself.

Indeed, the page is now, happily, 100 kilobytes long, or so it informs me. I dunno bout best arc in the world though. The Arc de Triomphe and Noah's Ark probably still top this one, if only for the recognition factor. Our arc has not yet gained the popularity in other parts of the world which it has here. Why just yesterday I saw a documentary about African tribesman who live so deep in the jungle that news of arc2.0 had not yet reached them. Also it does have a certain lack of tangibility. I suppose at the moment Noah's Ark does as well, but just as soon as they find it it will be a lot more tangible. Of course I'm making the assumption that tangibility is a criteria for Best Arcness. Perhaps the judges will be pleasantly surprised by this new, more modern approach to arcing? We can only hope I suppose.

Aww well at least you had some work, and at least now we get you back XD I'm working full time at the moment too and I must say, having some of that folding stuff is quite nice for a change. Figuratively speaking at least. We don't really use the actual folding stuff here. I know chip and pin was only just taking off in England when I was there in 05, and I assume its similar in Scotland, but we've had the equivalent for at least 12 years here, so cash is a bit obsolete.

Yeah I hear you on the facebook thing. You arent the first of my friends to bemoan the "million requests" issue this week. Perhaps I ought to stop sending so many ;P I have of late anyway, I just log in to clear my own :) Anyway its just nice to hear back from you *somewhere!*

Wow, a whole year? How momentous. I'll have to bake a cake. Do we have to get it presents?

/impromptu-nice-to-hear-from-you-eHug <3 ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 02:36, 22 January 2008

No, the arc isn't dead yet! It is getting a bit slow in its old age, but I think it has quite a way to go yet. Bring on 200kb!

Well perhaps some people haven't fully embraced just how good the arc is. True, those other arcs are pretty good, but they've have like a million years to perfect their arcness, at this rate arc2.0 will soon overtake them all! And then even African tribesmen will know about the arc!

Yeah, I'm starting to wonder what I did to keep myself occupied before getting a job, I'm so bored all the time now! In between the very intensive job hunting I'm doing, of course. And we've had credit cards etc for ages, but cash is just a lot easier sometimes!

Yeah, I might put more effort into facebook sometime! Just as soon as effort resources in my brain become available. Mostly when I'm online my brain is just switched off, and replying to the arc or sorting out all those invitiations is something I think probably needs me to pay more attention to, so I put it off till the next time. And then do the same the next time. And so on. I'll try to do better! If I haven't done much interesting for a while, giving me a nudge wouldn't go amiss!

I know, I can't even remember 12 months ago! An arc cake would be awesome. It'd have every colour imiginible in it! Presents might be going a bit far... maybe the arc itself could win an award for once! → Spang ☃☃☃ 09:04, 24 Jan 2008

104 kb down, 96 to go!

Indeed, I guess our arc has come a long way in such a relatively short space of time compared to them so give it another hundred or so years and it will have overtaken them as the most popular arc of all time!

Nah I didn't mean credit cards, I meant debit cards but oh well XD Cash is NEVER easier, dunno bout Scots money but English monies is very heavy! =S I had to walk to the supermarket with bags of baked beans tins full of change to cash it in and it was about 5 quid. Ok that's an exaggeration but you get my meaning :P

Just clear them all and start from fresh on facebook imo. I promise not to spam anymore >.> I'd rather have friends who reply than rack up mega zombie points spamming people who refuse to speak to log in =S

I dunno, I think there were a few colours you really wouldn't want in a cake used here. I can't think of any examples atm but there were definitely some un-flavoursome ones.

Hmm we could make an award. It would have to be a collaborative work. Our last one went down so well and has left a real lasting mark on the site! XD ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 01:35, 27 January 2008

Make that 94! This is pretty exciting!

Paper isn't heavy! Well ok, you wouldn't pay for your shopping in coins, though it might be quite amusing. Interestingly, you can only use a certain amount of one kind of coin before it's not legal tender any more. But I wouldn't use my debit card to pay for a bus, or some tic-tacs or something! Some places charge you if you pay with your card for something that's under £5. Mostly small shops though, if at all.

Yeah, I think clearing the requests is the only way! Some look ok, but I do like my profile to stay relatively clutter-free, despite there only being like 2 people who'll actually look at it :) I did like the last.fm app though. Though now people can see when I'm online and just hiding by when I play music :) Soon there'll be no escape!

I dunno. As long as they're only colours, I'd be pretty adventurous with any strange coloured cake. Strange flavours is definitely something to be avoided though! I remember having a pink with green spots coloured cake before, which was pretty awesome. I've no idea how my sister managed to bake green spots into a cake, but it was pretty impressive.

Awards are always a good thing. I'm not sure what kind of awards would be appropriate to give to the arc itself. We'll need a brainstorming session or something, where we'll have a flip chart with diagrams on and throw around buzzwords, like they do on TV. That'd be so cool! → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:30, 12 Feb 2008

107!!

Ok, I know we had a no-retrospective colouring rule, but I felt this situation called for it! Can't believe you didn't notice what I was going for there.

Don't worry, you might just get to be orange yet...

Only two sleeps (by uncyc time) to go arc2.0! This is a big milestone in the arc revolution really. I think perhaps it might even call for a tickertape parade. With a marching band and elephants and Miss Arc smiling and waving from a fancy convertible. Of course that might take a bit of organising and we only have a day or so. Maybe we'll just throw some confetti then?

Wow a pink and green spotted cake does sound impressive, provided of course that the green spots were intentional... She didn't bake it a couple weeks in advance did she?

I think its your turn to find the next web 2.0 for us to haunt. Do forums count? I have a great fondness for forums. My friend and I have a forum all to ourselves to spam our inane chatter on. Only two other human beings dare to go near it.

I like the brainstorming session idea. I vote we do it a la Fran from Black Books.

"Is this.../draws a circle on the flip chart...the best we can be?!.../draws a big dynamic arrow coming out of the circle...Are we...or are we not....AN ARC?!" ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 10:58, 14 February 2008

Another fundamental arc rule broken in order to wish the arc a very happy belated 1st birthday!

/throws streamers and does 3 cheers

Hip Hip Hooray! x3 ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 08:58, 17 February 2008

Woohoo! Happy birthday arc! Well, yesterday, but that's a minor point. I've already let off a party popper or two in its honour. Pretty crazy stuff!

This is getting pretty crazy what with all the unwritten rule breaking going on! It's like the arc is old enough now to start rebelling against the rules. All for a good cause though!

Yeah, I thought you might be going for some rainbow colouring, but you mixed up violet and indigo! So I thought I'd go out of order too. More noticeably though.

As fun as web 2.0 things are, they'r quite a lot of effort to keep track of! I'll keep a look out for the next one though.

Happy birthday again, arc! → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:32, 17 Feb 2008

Wow, my apologies, I've been terribly remiss. Almost 2 whole months have passed since the last edit and I'm only now just getting into gear to write something!

Life is too busy!

However it is with some excitement that I can announce the end of the rainbow theme. You may now resume selecting your own arc colours as and how you see fit. :)

And yes I know I mixed up violet and indigo but I sort of hoped you wouldn't notice ;P

Seems your look out was working as I think I still owe you a reply elsewhere also! But we mustn't let the arc slip, the work we are doing here to forge ahead in this new and exciting field of arcing is too crucial to the cause!

Hope all is well in your neck of the woods :) ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 07:16, 08 April 2008

Woo, a reply! That's the longest gap in replying to the arc, like, ever! It's probably my fault though, leaving many so messages in different places last time. I'll stick to one at a time from now on I think.

And yeah, life always seems to get in the way of doing stuff. Damn life! I want to do stuff instead!

I notice everything! Though it probably doesn't matter much anyway. Fun fact: most people can't actually tell the difference between indigo and violet in a real rainbow, but we traditionally use 7 colours because Isaac Newton was into numbers and liked the number 7, so when he named the colours of the rainbow he decided there would be 7 of them, and added indigo to make up the numbers.

Yep, all's good here! It'll be summer soon, hurrah! → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:02, 09 Apr 2008

Yes sorry, it was such a long gap. Its usually you who does that, not me. And I quite like finding messages all over the place. It's like little notes in your lunchbox!

That being said, your last twitter was like a month ago!

I try and find a balance between doing stuff and life, often even doing stuff whilst living. But then I'm quite skilled. I wouldn't recommend trying this at home.

It appears you do indeed notice everything! I can only tell the difference in that the look the opposite of what makes sense to me, I think violet is darker than indigo. That is a fun fact though. Indigo has to be the coolest colour name though. Its like the bottled essence of hippies. Even Pusifer agrees with me.

Enjoy your summer, winter beginneth here and I couldn't be happier. April is one of my fav months and not just because my birthday's in it. And my wedding anniversary. I also just like coz the leaves turn and it starts getting colder too :) ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 07:58, 14 April 2008

Well here I am back to leaving ages between replying! I'm just not very good at this whole "communication" thing in general, I think.

I actually sent a twitter update by text not so long ago that never showed up on the website. Odd. I've updated it now!

Yeah, April's pretty good here too, it's just starting to get warm enough to walk round without a warm coat on. Bring on summer! Leaves turning in April? You and your crazy backwards seasons! → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:57, 25 Apr 2008

Perhaps it is you northerners who are backwards!

Thank you for the birthday wishes :) Facebook is handy like that with the reminders and what not! I haven't got round to replying to everyone there because quite frankly there's too many.

I see some other uncycers have finally tracked you down on there too ;P

Why is the edit page complaining about a dollar sign?

I don't have a lot else to say at the moment, its cold and I'm sick of studying. General autumnal grumps all round! ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 08:20, 07 May 2008

Well, we were here first! Probably!

Heh, yeah it's good for that! Yeah I finally gave in and let people know when they ask me if I'm on facebook. What's the worst that could happen?

Dunno, I find the best answer is to just blame wikia. For everything. Ever. They're always to blame for stuff like that.

Damn Autumn and Winter, I for one am glad they're gone for another half year! You should move to the other side of the world every 6 months and just live in summer constantly! → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:24, 08 May 2008

Well, if we are going that far back, technically I'm on the same side of the argument as you. Heck I don't even have to go further back than 2 generations!

Well, technically the worst that could happen is that someone stalks you and kills you after tracking you down from your details. Or just steals your identity... But yeah, I'm sure that won't happen! >.>

I'm quite upset, your Mum figured out how to reply to ppl on twitter before me. QQ! But I got it sorted now!

Personally I love autumn and winter, I love the cold and all the scarves, gloves, earmuffs, wooly jerseys etc. Permanent summer would be awful! I was just in a grump when I wrote that. Can't even remember what it was about! ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 07:40, 23 May 2008

That's true. But I think that mean I win! At whatever it was.

Well at least having a stalker might be quite interesting, I've found the internet in general to be quite boring lately. Ah well.

Heheh. I'm still not using twitter much, except to get updates from muse on my mobile now, haha! I don't think I do enough interesting things or have enough interested people for it to be of much use.

Yeah, winter and summer are both pretty good at the time, you're always glad to get into them :) I don't like autumn so much though, it gets cold and wet, but there's never any snow, and never any interesting rain. Just cold. Which sucks. Spring isn't much better, but at least it's getting warmer then! → Spang ☃☃☃ 18:25, 05 Jun 2008

So I took a bit of an arc-break as I'm sure you noticed, but I can't just let it fade into obscurity. Vivant l'arc!

Not that I have that much to say really. You know my big news, and thank you for your congratulations, I gave up trying to reply to them individually pretty quickly.

Btw your South Park avatar suits you, especially the background :P I started to build one then I couldn't work out how to delete bits when I accidently added them, and then I tried the Delete button, hoping it might allow me to chose what to delete, which it didn't, so I gave up.

Thanks for your help on the JoCo wiki, I haven't gotten very far through my to-do list lately as I've been a bit preoccupied with RL.

Well that's all I got really for today, just wanted to give the arc CPR. :) ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 01:47, 28 July 2008

Heh, though the arc my get slower with age, it still keeps on going! :D And I notice firefox has now stopped spellchecking the arc because it's too long. Maybe that should be submitted as a bug - "Doesn't spell check the arc. Severity: critical"

Yeah I can imagine there'd be a lot of congratulations to get through :) Must be very exciting times for you!

Funny you should say that, because I made exactly the same mistake when making mine the first time! I gave up and made that one about a week later. It's just a matter of finding a time when you're bored enough. Which happens to me a lot, funnily enough.

And yeah, I don't seem to have done much at JoCopedia except a couple of templates... maybe I'm just a one-wiki kinda guy! Though it does email me when my talk page there is updated, so if I am ever needed, I'll not be too far away :) → Spang ☃☃☃ 18:23, 28 Jul 2008

I don't let firefox push me around, I can't stand it nagging at me and tell me I'm spelling it wrong, because so often on the internet I'm /intentionally/ spelling stuff wrong. As is my wont. However that is crazy that it's just given up. Maybe it sensed my spelling-fu was strong and decided it wasn't needed?

Yes very exciting times full of many firsts, with many more to come! Love the colour btw ;)

I haven't found myself to be bored enough yet, but that's more to do with the fact that I've found other things to do with my time instead than with me not actually being bored.

That's ok, its a quiet little place and I know how to use the SpangSignal™ if you are needed! That's nice that you've decided on a life of wiki-monogamy though! ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 03:06, 01 August 2008

Well that was a long gap! Your CPR should probably be directed at my procrastination, not the arc itself. But as long as it's still going, it's all good!

I've been busy in the meanwhile though! Got a new job, new flatmate, lots of fun at the festival. It's all good!

Been keeping up with your "progress" on facebook, not long now till you'll probably have no time for the arc at all! ;_; Though it probably won't be much different to my laziness! → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:45, 25 Sep 2008

Hi! I don't know why exactly but I felt like coming back here today! Thought I'd best apply the defibrillator to the poor neglected arc! Lots seems to have changed around these here parts, though some things never change. Your talk page is still a bit short for instance and MO is ignoring my talk page like usual. Did Famine ever come back? I wonder if its possible to exist around here and not actually DO anything. Also, how do I edit my watchlist now? Its full of rubbish and I don't want to have to unwatch each page manually! There used to be tickboxes somewhere... I think my sig could use a revamp. What's in vogue these days? ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 07:56, 18 May 2009

It's because you feel the calling of the arc! You can stay away for a while, but never forever! Hard to believe this conversation is over 2 years old :)

My talk page is the longest in the land, but still not long enough! One day I'll it'll be able to go round the whole world, or wiki, whichever is biggest. Or smallest. Famine never came back that we know of... And it's totally possible to exist around here and do nothing! I think the difficult thing is to exist around here and actually do something.

Also I fixed your watchlist thing. You had some CSS hiding the bar the watchlist editing links appear on for some reason. Olipro added them 2 years ago. Almost to the day! Who knows why!

As for sigs, I'm pretty sure random colours are definitely in. That and purple ponies. Anything else isn't important. → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:49, 19 May 2009

We have to talk,

about the article Ecole Centrale Paris you just deleted (twice I think) for vanity reasons. I just arrived here in Uncyclopedia, but the reason why the article was removed seems a bit obscure to me, since it passes the test of vanity relatively easily: in France the ECP is a very famous college as can be inferred from the great number of related hits and the article in several languages. Plus the text that had been written by that colleague of mine was funny (at least I thought it was). So I hope you won't mind if I recreate the article.

Cheers

Régis B. 10:10, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Alright then. I actually deleted it because "ecole" means school, and I usually automatically delete anything with "school" in the title. But if it's a famous college, it's usually OK. I've restored it for you, but it still needs to be a lot longer (at least a few more paragraphs/sections) before it's out of the firing line ;) → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:21, 05 Jul 2007

Archiving

I never thought it would happen. Never in a million years. Sir Cs1987 UOTM. t. c 14:35, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Heheh. Notice though, despite that archiving, it is still giving the "this page should be archived" message. Ha ha ha! → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:41, 05 Jul 2007

Hah, I didn't notice that. I guess that message will never go away then, unless something unforseen happens to the arcs. Let's hope not. Sir Cs1987 UOTM. t. c 14:59, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

deleting my article

Excuse me, why have you deleted my article on the Breton language?

It was deleted because it was one sentence long. Hundreds of other one-sentence articles are deleted every day, so don't take it personally! I've restored it and tagged it as being a short article, so you have a week to make it proper length. Just a few sections should do it, just so it's article-sized, as one-sentence articles are discouraged here. The counter goes from a week from whenever you edit it last, so really as long as you're still editing it it won't be deleted. And you can remove the tag yourself when it's a good length. Enjoy! → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:35, 05 Jul 2007

VFH

OK, I see your change (regular TOC, that is). This is great for load times (kills regular VFH by far), but kinda makes the page ugly. In fact, it somewhat takes away from one of the old purposes of the paradigm change (ie: less cluttered look). Is there a way to do a DPL version sans all the extras, so it looks more like it did of late? Like, all I want is a list of articles (score is unnecessary as well). If you've already tried this, then fine, because I've been around in less capacity lately (I'm back in full force now). In any case, I don't like that there are two tables of contents.

If you can sort through that mess of sentence-building to get my point, please respond.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 14:37, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, me and Mitch were talking about it on IRC, and decided that we decided that having two DPLs was just making the page have massive load times, especially at busy times - even at its most cut down, similar to what you suggested, loading was taking up to a minute or more to load compared to current VFH's 20 or so. And if you think about it, a DPL list of all the articles on VFH would look just like... a TOC.

I was basically aiming to have the full VFH page as similar to current VFH page as possible, to keep the people who liked it that way happy.

The two TOCs thing comes from the limitation that headers on the page and headers put in by the DPL are separate, and as such you can't get them all in the same TOC. And we need the TOC for the articles, and it's better if there's one for the main headers too, especially if the nominate box is going to be at the bottom (though I think it looks better above the articles on the full page, and below on the summary page, as there's minimal scrolling required to nominate something). Though you could make a box with wikilinks to the respective sections, it'd still be a TOC, just look different, though you wouldn't get the show/hide TOC bug. → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:51, 08 Jul 2007

I totally agree with your decision. I wasn't there for that (probably working...blech), but I'm sure you guys were right. What we maybe could do is spread the TOC out (ie: make it a wikitable with more than one article per row). Because with the nomnate box now, etc etc, it's getting rather long again. But if the load times are down now (which I think they are), then that's really the best thing we could do.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 14:59, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Beautiful, beautiful work. Absolutely great. Perhaps we should start on VFD now. Or you can with the code that I sort of helped with a little. It'll be a new age!-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 15:30, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Yup, I think the VFH project has been a resounding success! Great job team! And yeah, VFD will be done all in good time, don't you worry... → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:58, 09 Jul 2007

If you insist.../me ceases to worry. And, also, when you do the VFD thing, if you need my help, just ask. I doubt you will, but in any case, I hope something you learned (or altered to your liking) here has inspired you. I'm off to not give a shit.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 21:13, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Front Page

Hello can you please make the title Front Page (עמוד ראשי) disappear? no one seems to know how to do it. thanks. ~ Kakun · talk 18:26, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Well I can't do it myself, you have to be an admin to do it. It's much easier to do on eincyclopedia than here, just add the following code to here, on a new line.

body.page-עמוד_ראשי h1.firstHeading { display: none !important; }

And you should be all set. (You'll probably need to refresh first). → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:34, 08 Jul 2007

Spangsignal!

Forum:Something_strange_logging_on... Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 19:47, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

I think I got there just in the nick of time. And this spandex one-piece suit makes me look awfully dashing, don't you think? → Spang ☃☃☃ 09:39, 08 Jul 2007

It wouldn't be the same without the Spangmobile. Also...

Consume this cookie!

Modusoperandi has awarded you a cookie! Now go play in traffic.

For reacting so quickly to the Spangsignal. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 23:14, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome, citizen! → Spang ☃☃☃ 11:16, 08 Jul 2007

Can I be your sidekick? I've already got the MOmobile...it's turbocharged. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 23:28, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, totally! Ohh, does it have a CD player too? We can ride around Uncyc City and fight wiki-crime and valiantly save noobs in distress! I'll need to work on some epic one-liners for when we take down the bad guys first though. → Spang ☃☃☃ 11:56, 08 Jul 2007

CD changer, baby (no Red Hot Chili Peppers). You're on your own if we meet the Crufter, though ("Edit me this, dumbassterly duo..."). His gang, the IPs, spook me a little. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 00:06, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Never fear, my butler Jeeves is right now working on creating the very best fight scenes, plot twists, character developments, witty repartees and subtle innuendo for us to whip out and take down the bad guy with. I already have one that'll totally kill, if only I can manage to take him out with a breeze block of some kind. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:12, 09 Jul 2007

Cool, all I can do is go on IRC and report vandals...*Logon!* "Holy vandal, Spangman!". Ooo! Can we be the Ban Patrol? Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 01:29, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Awesome! I think that would literally be the Most Awesome Thing Ever. I'll get started on a theme song now. → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:10, 09 Jul 2007

Hmmm, I think I'll try too. I'm thinking "Meet the IPs. No match for Spang. His friend MO. MOmobile! *hand waves*SPANG SIGNAL!!!!!*end hand waves*" sung to the tune of "The Jetsons" theme.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 02:56, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

VFS

Should be open now, eh? You voted for, so I figured I'd let ya know.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 01:09, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Not quite yet... midnight on the 11th is when it foes. Patience! → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:26, 10 Jul 2007

/me sorry. I misreaded the rules. I thought it said "on the 10th" not "after 10 days." Whoops.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 01:36, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Since this time of the month is nomination only, can I delete the vote made after the person was nominated? --General Insineratehymn 04:27, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

No, it's not nomination only, but it's recommended that you wait to see all the nominees before voting. → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:42, 11 Jul 2007

True dat.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 21:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

O_O!

I was just as disgruntled as anyone else by Deathwatch2006, but 2 years? That seems rather harsh, even for a dumbass like that.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 15:46, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

It would have been infinite, but I thought he might like to come back when he's better. Would you have preferred infinite? As far as I could see, from everything I've seen of him on and off uncyclopedia, he revels in causing trouble with other people, and I'm not going to let him try to do that here. He needs help of a kind that uncyclopedia can't provide. → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:40, 16 Jul 2007

Well, as I don't really have a stake in this, I just felt it necessary to tell you that I was amazed at the harshness of the ban. Didn't know you had it in you.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 16:43, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

I ban people infinitely all the time - surely that's more harsh? → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:45, 16 Jul 2007

I just didn't know that side of you. Honestly, the only logs I saw of yours were the ones where you blocked Splaka for arbitrary amounts of time.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 16:46, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

There you go, all my blocks. You think 2 years is harsh? Check out the 15 year block on July 2nd. → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:51, 16 Jul 2007

/me reads... \o/! You're the one who blocked that retard IP that I ranted to twice! You're more my hero than you were before.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 16:59, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Yup, thats our Spang. He's good like that. ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 07:46, 17 July 2007

New ICU thingumy

Hiya Spang - saw your new ICU thing, and while I'm not exactly opposed, I have to say I use ICU without a sub or fix occasionally - mainly when I put my reasons in the edit summary. Any chance of at least getting a sub=nothing I can use to do this without looking amateurish in front of the n00bs? -- (but) Untrue  Whhhy?Whut?How? *Back from the dead* 10:41, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, now you can use a nofix=y to suppress the message. It doesn't matter what the "y" part is, as long as it's not whitespace. Though I think it's still better to use a sub or fix message, as a lot of n00bs won't know to look in the history for messages or reasons. Also, it makes it easier for the person checking the expired ICUs to know what the original reason for tagging was at a glance. → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:35, 17 Jul 2007

Yeah, maybe you're right. Still, it's good to have the option. -- (but) Untrue  Whhhy?Whut?How? *Back from the dead* 08:50, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Sig

Hey Spang, you mind giving me a hand with ForestAngel's sig? The gif violates the 12px rule but it's nearly invisible under 20...Thanks! ~ 11:17, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Well at 20px it only makes the whole line 1px higher, so I wouldn't worry about it too much. → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:53, 17 Jul 2007

Thanks. I'll be sure to write those words on my headstone when Famine catches me :) ~ 06:14, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

OH NOES! IT THE EVIL EYE OF FAMINE! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE! ~ 21:35, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

69.105.96.36

That page you deleted was actually revenge on his vandalisim. He was really annoying me so I did that in revenge. Do you have any other concerns over that other than the fact that it isn't necessary? Could I at least put {{Indefblockeduser2}} on his user page? Thanks!--Sir Manforman 15:02, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Revenge on vandalism is hardly better than the vandalism itself. If someone on the internet is really annoying you, either get off the internet to cool down, and think about it rationally, or discuss it with someone else. Revenge is never a good thing.

Often, the only reason a vandal vandalises is that they want attention, or to provoke a reaction. By doing that kind of thing, you're giving them exactly the reaction they want. If a user gets blocked indefinitely, the best possible thing for you to do is to ignore them, and forget they ever existed. Deprive them of attention, and they have no reason to come back. Start fights with them, and they'll want to come back even more to finish it off.

As for the blocked user template, why do you want to put it on? What would it achieve? Who's going to care that that user was banned infinitely? Nobody's ever going to care about that particular user any more, same as goes for 99.9% of all the other indefinitely blocked users. And anyone who does care knows how to check the block log.

So to recap: If someone is annoying you, talk to someone else or report them to ban patrol, and then forget about them. If someone gets banned infinitely, just pretend like they never existed. → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:45, 20 Jul 2007

I understand now. This guy was already infi-banned so I don't need to report him to Ban Patrol or anything like that. It's just when I logged in this morning, it said I had messages. I check, and it was the same as yesterday. As I checked the history to see if anyone made spelling changes, I saw 69.105.96.36 vandalising my talk page. Other established users were making fun of him on his talk page and I felt that I wanted to join to. So, I created that profile on his user page to join the revenge. So I guess that there really isn't a need to revenge on users or put that template on the talk page as most people Don't Care. Thanks for the advice.--Sir Manforman 18:05, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

I SEE ALL!!

I saw your new addition to the autowatch js. Very cool for slow net days (like right now, as it happens) - I thought for a split-second that my computer had gained sentience and was actually being helpful all by itself...! -- (but) Untrue  Whhhy?Whut?How? *Back from the dead* 21:24, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Ahah, I often wonder if people notice these little changes ;) If you have any suggestions for any others, feel free to suggest away!

I'm currently updating my autodelete script to be even more awesome, which should be useful to you soon, if my evil plan comes together... → Spang ☃☃☃ 11:39, 23 Jul 2007

So it's your evil plan? I thought this whole thing was a giant conspiracy, but if it's just one person then that's totally alright...  :-) -- (but) Untrue  Whhhy?Whut?How? *Back from the dead* 20:17, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

You saw nothing! → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:26, 25 Jul 2007

I'm sorry for interrupting your nefarious plans, but that this new JS do? I'm just too tired to read the code...:) ~ 21:20, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Yep, moved my lazy arse and just realized what it actually does. I'd give you a pint of tea, but Mhaille got my last one yesterday. ~ 21:23, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Great, if only more people would go and answer their own questions before I have a chance to answer! Only then, I'd look a lot less useful... → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:26, 25 Jul 2007

As Braydie seems to be busy

I thought to ask you about the ffs and what it means as i don't know what it is i also ask braydie but as he seems to be busy i thought to ask you as well Richardson j 01:48, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

FFS is just a joke, don't worry about it. You can't actually nominate someone for a ban. Nothing will happen, whatever happens on the page. You can remove the template from your userpage if you like, it's not official in any way. And if anyone complains, you can refer them to me. → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:47, 24 Jul 2007

HP spoilers

Hmm, I just noticed (after I RVed) that you were the one who removed the HP spoilers. You said to ask you. So, let's ask. Why? Within half an hour of me posting them the first time, someone went to my talk page and wrote, "LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL". That's probably the biggest laugh the HP article has gotten yet. Also, most of the comments on the talk page seem to be for "keep". Besides, is this anti-spoiler policy going to be applied equally throughout uncyclopedia? Because if so, you've got a *lot* of work ahead of you. -- Rei 17:20, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

There was a large discussion on irc about this, and everyone agreed that there should be spoilers for anything less than a year old, in order to give people who really don't want it spoiled enough time to see it for themselves. And the general feeling in the forums where I've seen it is that spoilers are a bad thing.

The are a couple of main issues about spoilers which were discussed:

• A spoiler joke is inherently entirely on the reader, for the benefit of the person doing the spoiling. The humour benefit of having it there is nothing compared to how disappointed someone could be if they get directed to the page and have something they could have been looking forward to for years spoiled. To me, doing that is very much being a dick, which as we all know is not uncyclopedic.
• Fake and mixed up spoilers are funnier. Which sounds more uncyclopedic? Snape kills Dumbledore, or Voldemort is Luke/Harry's father, Dumbledore was a ghost the whole time, or something similar? And better yet, the latter form doesn't actually spoil anyone but people who know the respective plots already.

The issue is not entirely with the spoilers themselves, it's the manner in which they are presented, i.e. those who come to the page and don't want to know the spoilers have no way of not seeing them, as they're right at the top there. Compare that to the page on Lost, for example, which generally always has information from the very latest episodes, but it is all used for or turned into actual jokes in the article after the spoiler warning. The difference being that one form tries its hardest to spoil something for someone who doesn't want it to be spoiled (going back to being a dick), while the other uses the potentially spoiling information to make actual jokes, and gives anyone who doesn't want to be spoiled a chance to leave unspoiled.

Also the guy who said LOLOLOL had edited the harry potter article in the days before the book came out, so it's likely he knew the spoilers already.

That's my reasoning for removing the spoilers, and will likely be sticking to it. I'm already quite close to locking the article, and if the spoiler jokes keep getting added, I will. → Spang ☃☃☃ 07:22, 24 Jul 2007

Actually, I posted the spoiler as soon as Slashdot broke the story about the spoilers coming out, while news of them was still proliferating. When I broke it, there were only a handful of blogs that had the spoilers posted. If the poster had known the spoilers, they were very fast at reading them.

As for who laughs, I had the ending of Cowboy Bebop spoiled for me by the Cowboy Bebop article. So? I cracked up. It was hilarious, and I smacked myself for going to an article on a series I hadn't seen the end of. Sure, the joke was on me, but if you can't take a joke on yourself, you're a humorless drone.  ;) That's what "roasts" are all about. In fact, it was the Cowboy Bebop article that inspired the original "Snape Kills Dumbledore" header on the HP article that ended up morphing into the new header (which you removed). Lots of articles have spoilers right up front, and the spoilers are the humor of the article.

Fake/mixed up spoilers: Your examples violate Uncyclopedia:How To Be Funny And Not Just Stupid. Random nonsense is not humor. It's boring and tedious reading a bunch of made-up garbage that has no rhyme or reason to it. Spoilers, however, do create genuine laughs -- both laughing at and laughing with. You may consider this to be offset by the humorless drones who get angry by having something spoiled (while, for some crazy reason, not expecting to find spoilers on a humor site), but you really can't deny that many people get a hefty amount of genuine amusement from it. It is not only for the benefit of the ones who posted/edited the spoiler, but also the readers who already know the spoiler and get to giggle at the thought of people seeing the spoiler who didn't mean to, for those who didn't know the end but have a sense of humor about it all, and so on.

Lastly, I'm not too fond of your chosen process here: taking it to IRC, discuss the issue with a bunch of people who probably have had little involvement in the HP article, and then come in and overrule the general wishes of the people on the talk page who *have* been editors to the article. That's poor form. The two main editors on the HP article in the past year have been Ace Attacker and myself (both supporters of the spoiler). Where have you been during the daily HP vandalism? What irony it is that I've been having to put up with, and to correct, vandalism to HP for over a year (on the order of "Harry has gay sex with Ron while Hermoime watches"), over and over, without any protection for the article. Probably due to all of the preteen fans, HP gets more vandalism than George W. Bush. And now protection is proposed, but only for the purpose of keeping one of the first laughter-inducing things to happen to the article out. If you actually cared about this article, why weren't you helping keep that garbage out? Why leave it to people whose opinions you clearly didn't care about when making your decision? -- Rei 23:18, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually you can't always expect someone to laugh off being spoiled, and they shouldn't be expected to. If you insult someone in good humour, or even in bad humour, then it's only words. But to spoil a plot for someone is to take away something they can never get back. When you visited the Cowboy Bebop article, had you at the time been waiting over a year to see it, only to have it spoiled before it was even possible to watch it? That's not something you have a right to expect people to laugh off. And speaking of which, the cowboy bebop article is entirely based on that spoiler, and that one joke gets old by the first few sentences.

As you were looking for spoilers the moment they came out, I expect you're not the kind of person that puts much value in a good storyline, and so maybe can't appreciate the disappointment of having it spoiled against your will. Or were you looking for the spoilers specifically so you could spoil it for other people?

My examples violate HTBFANJS? I disagree strongly. Everyone I've discussed it with except you thinks mixing the spoilers up with other well-known spoilers is a great idea, and very much in the spirit of HTBFANJS. And is quite the opposite of being random nonsense. Think of it as a parody of spoilers in general and the kind of person who likes to spoil things for people. As opposed to the sledgehammer to the face tactic of "ha ha I ruined a book for you" (a type of (so-called) humour discouraged by HTBFANJS in fact), it takes well-known spoilers and mixes them up so at first they think they've been spoiled, but then recognise it as being from something else. Hilarity ensues. Or if they don't recognise it, either they think they've been spoiled and you get your laugh, but then they are amused when they find out it wasn't actually spoiled at all, or they just think it's not a real spoiler and they think "Oh ha ha, that uncyclopedia and its absence of facts, whatever next?".

I particular, I don't understand your objection to fake spoilers, for things that don't actually happen. I mean, if the person hasn't read it, you get all the satisfaction of someone complaining that they've had the book spoiled, and they person appreciates the joke with a delay of however long it takes them to find out it's not real. The only thing you're missing out on is actually having spoiled it for someone. That's pretty dickish if you ask me.

I see you use "truth is funnier than fiction" as an argument on the talk page. Actually, there's a caveat to that: only when the truth is funny. And even then, by in no way means that you should put the actual truth there as the ultimate in humour.

As for coming in a changing what the main author thinks; I do that nearly every single time I delete an article. Of course the author thinks it's funny; he wrote it, and he thinks he's funny. But that doesn't mean it is funny, no matter how much time he spent on it, and how much little time I spent on it. The amount of time I've spent on the article has no relevance. But that doesn't mean I don't care about your opinions; the world isn't black and white like that. Your looking after of George W. Bush is good, the removal of vandalism from harry potter is good, the addition of the spoilers is bad. That's the way it goes. → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:21, 25 Jul 2007

"When you visited the Cowboy Bebop article, had you at the time been waiting over a year to see it, only to have it spoiled before it was even possible to watch it?" -- I had been watching the series as it unfolded on Cartoon Network/Adult Swim, so yes, I was emotionally invested in the plot. I still smacked myself for being dumb enough to go to an article on Uncyclopedia for a series I hadn't finished watching. The joke was on me, and I laughed -- probably a lot more than I would have had the article just been your typical uncyclopedia fare.

"As you were looking for spoilers the moment they came out, I expect you're not the kind of person that puts much value in a good storyline" -- Now where did that come from? I love a good storyline. I added those spoilers simply to replace the *old* spoilers in the old header, as soon as I found out that the new spoilers were out.

"And is quite the opposite of being random nonsense." -- And how is that? You're making up a bunch of random stuff and saying that they happened, with no rhyme or reason to it. How is that not random nonsense? That's the very definition of random nonsense. You could say "Harry kills Dumbledore and marries McGonagall" or "the last Horcrux is buried in the Louvre" or "Neville's skill comes from an experimental drug, which is slowly regressing and making him even more inept" (and in fact, you *do* have it say all of them), and it wouldn't make a whit of difference. It's interchangable, random nonsense.

"a type of (so-called) humour discouraged by HTBFANJS in fact" -- And what rule are you referring to on that? It says no such thing. On the other hand, it most definitely is humor, as it has made multiple people laugh. Probably a lot more than the rest of the article ever has.

"I particular, I don't understand your objection to fake spoilers" -- They're random nonsense. Transparently random nonsense. HTBFANJS is there for a reason, Spang.

"But that doesn't mean it is funny, no matter how much time he spent on it" -- That might be true in this case if it was only my opinion that it was funny. But it's not. You're overruling what multiple users, including the main contributors to the article and a majority on the talk page, have supported -- all based on the opinions of people who haven't been involved in the article. Can you see why this might be just a wee cause for offense to me? -- Rei 15:28, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Just to give you an idea of what Ace and I have been dealing with, I stopped cleaning up the article as soon as you RVed. Now the article begins with, "Harry Potter, dear readers, is a twat. Seven books were tasty by J.K Rowling." You're taking actions that are driving off vandalism-preventing editors from the article. Possibly the site as a whole. -- Rei 15:35, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

And now it doesn't begin with that, it's been cleaned up already. If the article's that bad, a better use of time might be making the article better, rather than focusing on one line at the top.

Looks like we're just going to have to agree to disagree then. And to be honest, I've seen more people against the spoilers than I've seen for them. → Spang ☃☃☃ 12:31, 26 Jul 2007

And now it says "Dumbledore made an exception on account of frequent sexual escapades with older men, according to my fanfic her skill at baking Nuclear Muffins." And it's said that for the past two days.

You're not just saying we must agree to disagree; you're saying that we must agree to do it the way you want it and disagree over whether that's right.

Lastly, let's count. Against spoilers on the talk page: You, Kalir, and (just recently) SirCS1987, all of whom just showed up and hadn't been doing a damned thing to keep vandalism out before (in fact, Kalir was the one who added the nuclear muffins/sexual escapades comment). Supporting: User:165.21.154.17, myself, Ace Attacker, and Penfish, the middle two being the prime vandalism removers for the article. The tally was 2:4 Keep, but now is 3:4 Keep.

Look, you have every right to say, "I don't give a damn what you or the majority of people who worked on this article think; I'm showing up out of the blue, and this is how it's going to be. Deal with it." Likewise, I have every right to say, "Who gives a damn that I was potatochopper of the month, that I made four featured images, three featured articles, and that I'm the sole vandalism preventer for over fifty articles and a contributor to vandalism prevention on many more. If you're going to treat contributors this way, I'm out of here." -- Rei 21:38, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, if Rei needs more convincing, let me just repeat what I said on the talk page:

I like this new fake spoiler template. I hated the old one on this page for three reasons:

1. The spoiler template joke is getting old. REALLY old.

2. The original spoiler template (see Template:Spoiler) is the best spoiler template. Every spoiler template created since has been stupid, unfunny, boring and annoying.

3. Templates that spoil a whole book/movie simply aren't funny, just annoying. The funniest thing about Template:Spoiler is that it takes completely random spoilers that are mostly totally irrelevant to the actual article.

So don't put it back, m'k?

Also, to quote Rei, "but you really can't deny that many people get a hefty amount of genuine amusement from it." I bet most of these people you refer to are IPs/n00bs who think ED is the pinnacle of humour. We do not aim to please these people, that is ED's job. Sir Cs1987 UOTM. t. c 05:15, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

K, since I'm sticking my nose in, I figured I'd chuck in my 2c here also. I'll keep it short and sweet. Yesterday on IRC I saw someone blatantly ruin the ending of Harry Potter 7 without any warning or provocation. One user who hadn't yet read the book was very upset about this, and understandably so. If I had not just days earlier finished it myself I too would have been very upset, having eagerly awaited this book for years. Think about other peoples feelings before you put the Pursuit of Humour above all else. And those fake spoilers are not as you put it, random nonsense, instead they blatantly refer to quite different and famous stories, The Da Vinci Code and Flowers for Algernon to name just two (and at a stretch, Hamlet). That is funny because immediately the reader knows (or should know) that its a fake spoiler and appreciate the effort taken to not just do an actual spoiler. The humour is that its an obvious fake spoiler, and thus, not a spoiler at all! I appreciate that you and other have been working hard to keep the article free of vandalism, but such is wikis I'm afraid. It does not give you ownership of the article, especially not over admins and well-respected and established users. ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 02:39, 27 July 2007

Also, please don't let this topic rival the arc for length, as Spang's talk page is always about and should always be about the arc, first and foremost. ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 02:44, 27 July 2007

Well said! And for the record, I would have kicked whoever did that from the room. Though as I said before, something like that can never be undone, so it's worse than just insulting someone, which is why spoilers are bad. → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:36, 27 Jul 2007

Don't worry, I let them know that they ought to be kicked, then summoned an admin who was quite ready to kickban them except the offender had already fled at my threat. ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 09:40, 27 July 2007

This seems to be slightly old, but just for the record, I completely agree. ~Sir Rangeley GUN WotM UotM EGA +S (talk) 19:46, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Spang, could you help me again?

Hey, Alksub won't stop ragging on my article. Could you like, make a tab or something that says "This article has Spang's seal of approval"? That would be awesome! Thanks! ForestAngel Receive Blessings! 08:25, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, Mordillo already took the ICU off, so it's ok for now. Perhaps you should put a notice at the top, saying that you need to have heard the audio to appreciate it, and make a more noticeable link to the audio. Then people who don't get it would be sure to listen to the audio before making their judgement. Dunno about a "spang approves" template... but I suppose there might be a use for some kind of "you have to be familiar with the subject to get this article" template. → Spang ☃☃☃ 09:47, 26 Jul 2007

Hate to stick my nose in unbidden, however "You had to be there" articles kinda get my goat. In my opinion a good article should be amusing and able to be appreciated even by those who HAVEN'T read the book, seen the movie, bought the audio-book and own the collector's edition figurines in their original packaging, with an extra mylar layer around the outside to protect it from the drool of other aficionados. Because to me that kinda whiffs a little of elitism, which we all know is a Bad Thing™ I prefer an article which instructs and enlightens. Imagine if Wikipedia articles didn't actually explain what the thing the article is about was and instead only spoke to those who already know...~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 02:29, 27 July 2007

Ah, but this one has a link to the "required listening" only one click away. I think it's ok here, as it only takes one click for the reader to become acquainted with what they need to have listened to to understand, should they wish to. And aside from that, I don't think that an article should be marked down because it's obscure and some people don't get it. On the contrary, it's probably even more funny to the people who do get the article that there's an article on it at all, balancing it out. As long as it's not vanity. It's unlikely that anyone will get all 23,000 articles on the site, so at the same time they shouldn't have trouble finding something they do get! → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:32, 27 Jul 2007

Cute pic!

Wow! Who knew you were so cute and adorable? I love the hat, do you have the matching cymbols? XD ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 05:00, 28 July 2007

I've always been cute and adorable! Just in a very subtle way. I am indeed a master at the cymbals, and bouncing. And at the typewriter. → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:10, 28 Jul 2007

Oh don't get me wrong, I've always known it, just hadn't seen photographic evidence ;) ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 07:10, 28 July 2007

So you guys didn't get stopped at the border? Then where the hell are you typewriter-wielding monkeys? Ugh, I'm off to blame Braydie. Because I can.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 18:44, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

BARHAH!

This user looted Caiger Mall S/he spent 20 Action Points searching. All s/he found was this lousy template. Caiger Mall was then attacked and Ransacked by Zombies.

Add to userpage. --Lt. High Gen. Grue The Few The Proud, The Marines 00:38, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

I shall find a way to fit it in nicely. Perhaps make it userbox stylee. → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:04, 30 Jul 2007

Or'se'la

It appears to me that, lacking the sense of unity that might inform them of their insignificance, these Gue’la have come to think that they might own the stars themselves, even the spaces in between them. Only by our presence, I think, might we now convince them otherwise. Yeah, I read your user-name policy and it's Gay 04:52, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Uh... Yes? → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:57, 30 Jul 2007

Uhhhh...

. How did you know I was sypathetic towards starving children? --Lt. High Gen. Grue The Few The Proud, The Marines 17:20, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Score! I mean... my starving children will appreciate this very much. Yeees. → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:16, 31 Jul 2007

Problem with SpangSock!'s QVFD script

Since I assume that you are the owner of SpangSock!, I'd like to make a request. Because of a paranoid security feature, some browsers won't open www.uncyclopedia.org with XMLHttpRequest, but will work if the URL points to uncyclopedia.org. I found the bug in the function QVFD in User:SpangSock!/uncyclopedia.js. Because this security feature isn't in IE's XMLHttpRequest(), it seems to work for some users in IE. --Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • FFS • WP) 17:26, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, for a start... The script isn't SpangSock!'s, it's Villahj Ideeut's. The correct version is at User:Villahj Ideeut/QVFD.js. I've fixed the bug there, so just use that one instead. That account is just for testing stuff when I can't be bothered blanking my own js, anything that appears in there is probably just a test version of something that's already somewhere else. → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:14, 31 Jul 2007

Unbooks Jr - The Boy Who Could Nor Breathe

Huffed because it was not Not Original? Do you mean it sucked or that it wasn't my own story?

Dunno, it would help if you linked the deleted article... I can't find anything with the name "Unbooks Jr - The Boy Who Could Nor Breathe". If it was huffed as not original, it probably looked a lot like it was copied and pasted from somewhere else and not formatted wiki-style. If it was me, I could have made a mistake, but I can't check unless I know what the exact title was. → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:18, 31 Jul 2007

Hey Splangy!

A long time ago, when I was a mere n00b, I wrote an article on Maya Angelou. Then, I left for a number of months, during which time I think ZB huffered it. I just realized this today, and after checking the logs, the time frame fits. If I recall, it was pretty blatant idiocy and probably deserved to be banished. However, for old time's sake, would it be possible to resurrect the text of that page? I'll house it in my userspace if need be; I just want to see what the hell I wrote. Thanks bud! --THINKER 20:10, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I restored it for you. You can move it to userspace if you want, but I doubt anyone'll notice if you work on it there, or even if you don't. → Spang ☃☃☃ 12:24, 02 Aug 2007

Ban Alksub!

Whenever I put up something to be reviewed about Dirty Potter, he comes and immediately subjectively trashes it. He seems to stalk the article, and I don't know how! Please banninate him! He keeps calling the article "fan fiction"! Well, I guess if you want to get TECHNICAL, it would be. But it's just messing around with an audio editor and the article is supposed to summarize the audio! Please help! --ForestAngel Receive Blessings! 14:26, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Spang, will you protect Dirty Potter? Pleeeeeease? ForestAngel Receive Blessings! 06:52, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't think banning would be a good idea, especially as he claims to have left now, but these things are best worked out in a reasonable discussion, or just left as a difference of opinion.

As for the article, I'll set about rewriting it way way I suggested on irc. → Spang ☃☃☃ 07:30, 03 Aug 2007

Search Suggest

• I'm not sure where we voted for this, but its acctaully getting in the way of me doing stuff. My browser has this handy thing where it remembers what I type into things, thus meaning that I don't have to remember what the exact title of that template that I'm currently looking for is. Search suggest prevents my browser from telling me. So, either give me the magical ignore code, or just remove it. -- The Zombiebaron 18:40, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

The ignore code is in the desciption on common js, if you'd looked a litter closer at the description you'd have seen it. Add disableSearchSuggest = true; to your user js to disable it. I might add a link to instructions to disable it at the bottom of the suggestions. Feel free to start a vote on it. → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:58, 03 Aug 2007

Psh. Once I add that code, I'll probably forget this whole thing. Thanks. -- The Zombiebaron 19:05, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Also, it didn't work. -- The Zombiebaron 19:15, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Whoops, I'll see what's doing that, and possibly add the disable link at the same time. → Spang ☃☃☃ 08:07, 03 Aug 2007

Ah, it was a typo, it should work now. → Spang ☃☃☃ 08:23, 03 Aug 2007

Thanks, eh? -- The Zombiebaron 21:23, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks :)

I just wanted to say thanks for adding a disable to your new predictive search thing. its a great help :) -- (Bonner) (Talk). 22:28, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

No problem, but I'll probably end up having to disable it for everyone too. Ah well! → Spang ☃☃☃ 11:17, 03 Aug 2007

About that little thing we discussed on IRC...

I thought perhaps you should read this. ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 05:25, 05 August 2007

You, Spang, are awesome. It's unfortunate that we lost such a promising young writer (^_^). In any case, thanks for banning her.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 14:09, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Tabs

Some of my tabs aren't working. Could you fix that? If you need help, here is my Javascript. --General Insineratehymn 18:32, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I think my might have a JS crisis again, all sort of gadgets aren't working at the moment, including some tabs, quickedit and rollback. Are we having a wiki version problem again? ~ 23:18, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it's because the skin has changed slightly, and yeah I can probably fix it. I know why the tabs aren't working, have an idea as to why quickedit isn't working, but don't know anything about the rollback script, so no promises there. → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:36, 06 Aug 2007

I just realized that all my automated scripts are off, ICU, welcome script etc. Also, I keep getting a tab called toJSONString. Hmmmm.....~ 17:57, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Is it fixed now? If not, could you paste in any errors showing up in the error console (if you're in ff) → Spang ☃☃☃ 07:28, 08 Aug 2007

Well, first of all mighty thanks for your help :) most of it is working, including the quickedit function. The only thing which wasn't resolved was the rollback function I stole from Oli. And I keep getting a weird tag over and over again. It's recreated every time...~ 16:53, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Got one relevant error -

Error: fcktest is not defined Source File: http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?title=User:Olipro/userundo.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s Line: 120

That error line looks quite naughty actually, something that Oli would write himself :) ~ 16:56, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Yup, that's olipro's code, not covered by your Spang JS Warranty™. Ask olipro to fix it. As for the extra tab, try clearing your cookies. → Spang ☃☃☃ 08:34, 08 Aug 2007

I'll do that, altough I'm likely to be banned or sent to the nearest dentist, depending on his mood :) Thanks! The Spang JS Warranty™ proves itself yet again! ~ 12:04, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

follower?

it looks like i have one follower.

the FSM

I always take a bit of time out every day to pay my respects to The Noodly Master. Ramen! → Spang ☃☃☃ 08:36, 08 Aug 2007

More QVFD problems

For some reason, User:Villahj Ideeut/QVFD.js isn't working (again...). this diff seems to work, though. --Sir Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • CUN • Capt.) 20:30, August 10, 2007

It should work now. And that old revision shouldn't work. It could work all the time if someone could convince wikia to validate their HTML before adding anything to uncyclopedia. → Spang ☃☃☃ 08:49, 10 Aug 2007

Weee!

Bugs! Woo! The {{title}} template isn't working. This makes me sad. The much maligned "username" one (<insert name here>) is not usernaming, as well. Also, the non-existent {{Cabbage}} template is broken again. Woo! Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 10:06, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Those are because there's an error in some of the js that wikia have put into the skin. Unfortunately, it's in the parts that I can't change. If I could it'd have been fixed yesterday, but wikia do seem to like their bugs. I mean, this is the kind of error that would show up as soon as the script is run the first time, so I've absolutely no idea how it could happen, unless it wasn't tested at all before they added it sitewide... and people wonder why we get these bugs so often.

Oh, and I fixed the cabbage template. → Spang ☃☃☃ 12:03, 14 Aug 2007

Oh...my...god. How long did that take to make? Excuse my 80'sness, but the cabbage template is totally wicked. This means, of course, that the next update will break it. Pity. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 12:12, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, I spent 600 hours in paint, meticulously colouring every pixel, only to discover that this site lets you do it automatically. Ah well.

But if you think that's impressive, for something similar that is actually a million times more wicked, see this poster of the Godfather, made using the entire script of said film. Check out the other posters too. Pretty durn impressive! → Spang ☃☃☃ 07:11, 15 Aug 2007

It's like magic. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 07:30, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Gay-Z

Hi I am new here, and wanted to know if this article was OK: Gay-Z. If its not, please let me know that you've huffed it. Thanks. Fuck Gay-Z 07:32, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

N00b-licious question

Good morning/afternoon/evening/night/no preference (delete as appropriate) Spang. Quick question or so: Eugene_Worley - this was on VFD on Aug 3rd, and huffed by your good self on Aug 4th. It was then re-created in what appears on first glance to be an identical form on Aug 9th by an IP. I spotted this and was going to pop the IP up for ban patrol, when I noticed Cs1987 had ICU'd it. I checked in with Cs, and he'd forgotten it was on VFD. So, as a n00b concerned with not pissing off admins, the question is: do I proceed with the Ban Patrol nom, wait for the results of the ICU, Pick up the phone booth and aisle, or something else? Tatty byes --Sir Under User (Hi, How Are You?) VFH KUN 08:19, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Dunno, it might be an actual attempt to rewrite the deleted article into a better form, but it might just be a recreation. Best thing to do is ask him on his talk page, ask him if he's planning on making it better, if yes, give it the ICU's week, if no or no reply, delete it and warn him, and if he does it again, block. Easy! → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:36, 21 Aug 2007

Eh, someone's tidied up the formatting, but it still looks like a cyberbullying page. Ah well, it's not been touched recently and the ICU is almost up. If it survives that, I'll VFD it or at least park it in the Poopsmith's lounge. Thanks for the response anyway. May you be blessed with cake in the near future. --Sir Under User (Hi, How Are You?) VFH KUN 11:53, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

I didn't actually check it before, but it did look like a lot like vanity. But it has somehow disappeared now. Oh well! Oh, and I'm not really a fan of the vanity fix for ICU, nor the {{vanity2}} that came before it... if it's vanity, the article's bad to the core and can't be fixed, so just use qvfd. If there's a hope it can be made not-vanity, ICU it, but otherwise it's just giving it another week to live. → Spang ☃☃☃ 12:17, 21 Aug 2007

Helpin' With Sig

22:46 August 16, 2007

You're welcome! → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:22, 21 Aug 2007

Thanks

I am happy

You have pleased me!!

Here's an award for unbanning me now to be useful! --The Great Yellow Crayon Get PWNED Yellow 130 is teh pwnz 05:20, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome! → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:21, 21 Aug 2007

Dearest Spangle G. Glittersprinkles

When you add a VFH page to the feature queue, please add the page to the appropriate Top 3 of <month> page. This will save a bunch of time at the end of the month (as no one will have to do it all at once). Clothing, as usual, is optional. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 07:45, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok, that sounds like more work, so instead I've set up this page: User:Spang/test1. You may move it somewhere more permanent if you like. It shows you the code that will be needed to dump all the articles featured in any particular month into a top10 voting page in one go. Well done for volunteering for the task, I'm proud. You'll need to wait until all the articles of the month have been featured or queued, but clothing is still optional. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:43, 21 Aug 2007

So, what you're saying is that I should be doing what I've been doing, basically the same way that I've been doing it? Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 14:41, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh, wait...I hit edit. Sneaky. You're all full of code, aren't you? <*poke*> Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 14:42, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I just can't help myself. It'll update itself as articles are featured. → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:32, 21 Aug 2007

I was wondering...

Seeing as you're good with CSS I was wondering if you could answer me a question: Is it possible to create a Div layer for use on Uncyc with an image as the background instead of a colour. I've tried using my limited skills but I can't get anything, so I though i'd ask an expert. Thanks in advance:) -- (Bonner) (Talk) 23:12, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

It's possible to do if you directly position an image under where you want it to be, but other than that i's not really possible. Mediawiki blocks CSS background images on divs for some reason. → Spang ☃☃☃ 09:45, 22 Aug 2007

Damn Okay never mind, thanks anyway :) -- (Bonner) (Talk) 13:32, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

IRC

Now. -- Mitch 13:06, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Your yearly message from Splarka

Even though I don't hate you and FU Spang is a stupid meme...

FU SPANG

I was supposed to chan it 50 times, but then I'd get banned fr spamming on a sysop's talk page. --Lt. High Gen. Grue The Few The Proud, The Marines 21:50, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Aw, it makes me feel all warm and fluffy inside. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:56, 23 Aug 2007

Missing person report .

Well as you and Braydie appears to be friends (could be wrong) i was wandering if you know what happened to him as he appears missing .Richardson j 22:18, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

He's probably just still taking a break from uncyc. These new admins never do stand up to the test of time. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:37, 25 Aug 2007

At least i got you as my backup administrator Richardson j 00:13, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I think perhaps he is just playing too much WoW (aren't we all!). Last sighted here ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 01:45, 26 August 2007

Well i never played World of Warcraft as i don't think it was released on wii the cute console Richardson j 22:40, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Long Live the Health Meter!

Thank you so much for the template! We've taken a system that (so they tell me) works simply and looks complicated and replaced it with a system that looks simple and probably has more lines of code than the flight control computer for Apollo 11. I'm reasonably sure that's progress. -Tritefantastic 00:18, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Minor note: Gerrycheevers asked for a clarification that the health meter is for removing articles, and that overall votes are used for approving them. I suggest this. -Tritefantastic 01:50, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome, and it's not actually that complicated! Yes, the health meter is for removing only, and the articles will still be featured by score alone, and age of nomination in a tie. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:16, 25 Aug 2007

Yeah, it's not that complicated. I think the hardest part about creating it is understanding how the hell Spang formatted the DPL table to create a new column.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 16:56, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Magic. → Spang ☃☃☃ 07:34, 25 Aug 2007

UnCameron footnote problems

Hello. For some reason the footnotes have disappeared form UnCameron. You seem to know your stuff and I was hoping you could help figure out why this happens. The problem seems to be something to do with the poll on the page, as the footnotes return if that isn't there. Could it be something to do with the skin upgrade? -- 15Mickey20 (talk to Mickey)  12:31, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Yep, it looks like the poll is causing the problem. The <choose> extension was doing that before too, so I don't know if it's a problem with the poll or with the footnote extension itself. It's nothing I can fix though, so best thing to do is to ask Sannse to tell the technical team about it, and hope they fix it. In the mean time, you could either copy and paste the footnotes in manually and keep the poll, or remove the poll, though that might cause the votes to reset. Or just wait till somebody fixes the problem, but there's no telling when that would be! → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:33, 28 Aug 2007

Ok. I'll ask Sannse about it. Thanks for the help. -- 15Mickey20 (talk to Mickey)  13:52, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Dearest Spang

Someone found the top o august before August was done. As it was the not-your-code version, it's only got 30 days worth of pages on it. I went on IRC and got Flammable to protect it. When the 31rd/Aug gets featured, can you unlock it and add the last day? Or just paste your code over the existing bits (as people voted before they were supposed to). Or, something else entirely. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 06:34, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I queued the artice for the 31st and added them all to the page, and set it to expire on the 1st september. I also set up september's page's protection to expire on the 30th September, so there shouldn't be that problem next month. → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:24, 30 Aug 2007

Can we have a new problem next month? Aw, c'mon! You promised! Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 18:17, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Sure thing. Next month we'll be working on world peace. The month after, how to eat biscuits without getting crumbs everywhere. Unless you have more challenging problems to solve. → Spang ☃☃☃ 10:29, 01 Sep 2007

This G-spot is problematic, I hear. Been looking for it myself for a while. That hunt at the DMV was a bust. Pretty much ruined the ladies' pictures for their drivers licenses. Live and learn, I guess. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 13:37, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Cool

as a matter of fact, that's exactly enough features queued for me. however, i'm not exactly sure what you mean by I'm not substing and fixing it for you. When you do, don't dare screw up any of the code! but if it's something i need to attend to, please instruct me as to my further duties! --SirGerrycheeversGunTalk 06:49, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

It means that I assume you're going to copy the template in and mix up the words so that they're like the VFH template before and the rest of the article. Don't screw up the code means that there's parts of the FA template that are important for feature stuff, so when you change the words, only change text you can see, and nothing else! And be sure to leave all the links as they are. Other than that, the world is your oyster! → Spang ☃☃☃ 07:04, 03 Sep 2007

Images

Is it possible to restore an old image that has been reuploaded? Some douche overwrote an image in UnNews:Russia's communist resistance sends bear army to retake Romania, four US tourists left dead. The pic was Image:Bear.jpg. If possible, could please restore some older version of that pic so that it looks like just a bear? P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 20:31, Sep 4, 2007

I did it for you. Ah, that wonders of the (rev) button! – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 20:16 Sep 04, 2007

Beat me to it! You won't be so lucky next time! → Spang ☃☃☃ 08:39, 04 Sep 2007

Really? Wow, I didn't know you could revert images. That's the last time I try to edit uncyc on my friend's computer... Thanks for the help! P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 23:02, Sep 4, 2007

You learn something new every day! → Spang ☃☃☃ 12:05, 06 Sep 2007

Nooooo!!!!!!!!

No! I said ban, not block, ban! BAN! Ban me ^{Talky Talky} 00:27, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Are you trying to tell me you want this IP banned as well? → Spang ☃☃☃ 12:03, 06 Sep 2007

Signatures

I was just wondering, how do you make the timestamps on your signature automatically <small>? I was looking into doing that for my signature--Sir Manforman 12:50, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Go to your preferences and add after your sig template: <small>{{subst:#time:h:i, d F Y}}</small>. And then you have to remember to only sign with 3 tildes (~~~) or you'll get two timestamps. Simple! → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:48, 09 Sep 2007

Done, thanks!!! --User:Manforman/sig202:54, 09 September 2007

Coping with loss.

Well Braydie's gone and i'm greaving at the moment at the lost .

He was the one i get advice from .

Now he's gone i'm lost without him .

Just i'm not sure why i'm talking to you .

Maybe to let you know i will need advice from you time to time .

Maybe this is a misstake mistake .

Richardson j 22:53, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry, people leave all the time. If you need to know anything, just ask at the village dump, or in the help forum. That's what they're for! → Spang ☃☃☃ 12:38, 13 Sep 2007

You are hereby deemed "Competent in the line of duty"

-- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​UU​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 21:53, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Awe-some! Woop! → Spang ☃☃☃ 12:38, 13 Sep 2007

VFP

I've knacked up a proposal for VFP and the <DPL> tags aren't working. Do you know how to fix the tags?--Sir Manforman 22:08, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, probably because just changing all occurances of "VFH" in the code for "VFP" is unlikely to make it work somewhere else! It's probably not a good idea to try and do something like that unless you understand all the code in the first place. The DPL extension is one of the most complicated ones to use, so it'd be quite complicated to tell you exactly why it's going wrong without having to explaining a lot about how it works.

I also don't know if having subpages for VFP is a good idea, I mean there's only ever 3 or 4 pictures on there at once, so it seems hardly worth the bother of making the subpages thing work. And the process of featuring pictures is already one of th most complicated things on uncyc, and it probably wouldn't help that either.

And on top of that, VFP has changed so much recently, I don't know if people would go for another change.

If you still want to try and convince people it's a good idea, you're welcome to, but you'll probably need to learn how to use the DPL extension first, if it's still to be formatted like VFP, and not VFH. Which is no small task! → Spang ☃☃☃ 12:38, 13 Sep 2007

Well, I guess it isn't necessary to pursue it than. I didn't realize those DPL tags and the subpages were so complicated. --Sir Manforman 01:18, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry. Yeah, they are very complicated if you don't know exactly what everything does. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:38, 13 Sep 2007

Conservation Week 2007

Well, Conservation Week is over, so the template can be removed off the main page. Thanks. ~

Jacques Pirat, Esq. Converse : Benefactions : U.w.p.

15/09/2007 @ 04:32

Coolio. Done. → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:53, 15 Sep 2007

Thanks on forum, Template Speed

I know I just do templates,but I just did a major revision on one of my articles!Anyway, thank you for the answer to my question.At least YOU and that other guy weren't huge jackasses about it.   Le Cejak • <-> 20:18, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Heh, you're welcome. On any topic on templates, you generally have to put up with half the people making no sense, and the other half telling you you shouldn't be doing it. But if you're lucky one or two people might actually answer your question. ;) If you need to know anything else, you might as well just ask here instead of the dump, as I'm likely to be the one that answers your question there anyway! → Spang ☃☃☃ 10:23, 17 Sep 2007

At last,someone who understandsmy obsession!!!!--  Le Cejak • <-> 16:14, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Hey...

Your TaggedNewPages.js told me that wikia's bad html is screwing it up. It also suggested that I report it here, so that's what I'm doing. Your .js is quite an intelligent creature. I think I'll call him Teddy. Sir Cs1987 UOTM. t. c 14:12, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I figured it saying that was better than it saying it had tagged them when it hadn't. There's no point fixing it right now, because it's the spotlight code that's screwing it up, and wikia keep changing it but never fixing it. So I'll wait till wikia stops messing around with the code for it, at which point it should either work, or be easy to work around. → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:51, 17 Sep 2007

Regarding {{VFH}}

Yeah, I know you've done quite your due diligence on anything involving the Votes for Highlight page and probably wish that it never come within 50 miles of your presence, but I have a question (I'd do the coding and whatnot, it's not too difficult). In addition to the featurecode on Template:Featuredarticle/queue, could there perhaps be a link to automatically add the Featurecode on Template:VFH? It should be relatively easy, but I figured I'd ask your opinion, since you're rather the architect of the whole thing.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 23:27, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, first of all, why? It's be more trouble to do it that way than with how it's done now. Second, it used to do this by showing the current date, but I took it out, because it's not so simple to get the date of the next feature slot. It would probably be more trouble than it's worth, as the template that gets that date is made specifically to be subst-only, and wouldn't work unless {{VFH}} was substed also. Third, featuring needs to be done in a specific order, with placing the {{FA}} feature code done last, so putting the feature code there would be too tempting for people who don't know how the system works to place it in, thinking they are helping, and mess up some feature stuff. → Spang ☃☃☃ 08:24, 21 Sep 2007

First of all, I didn't know about that handy {{tl}} template. I'll keep it in mind, thanks. Next, I was simply considering the cool and sexy admins who add the feature. They tend to like the easiest possible scenario, and one click is always easier than....more than one. In any case, it's a superficial request that I just figured out upon completing my newest article and saying "Hey, I should do something actually useful." But no matter.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 22:49, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I understand, but it's actually easier the way it is now. Don't let it put you off suggesting further improvements though! → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:42, 22 Sep 2007

You got it. I shall continue improving.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 03:12, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

I normally find the on this day to be ****

But whoever did September 26 Commemoration of the brick wall day must be thanked & i don't know who i should thank

According to the history, the person you should be thanking is User:TheRealSheep, though they haven't made any edits since about a year ago. → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:16, 27 Sep 2007

Heeeelllllll ellllllllllppppppp

I did an experiment in my sandbox here and for stange reason im unable to get rid of my edits (most probably at my end). And if you could do me a favor and clear out everything underneath the ==Sandbox here== header (just ignore the do not edit warning)thanks. And i may even consider you as a replacement for braydie . Richardson j 02:55, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

I need your help

Okay once again i'm trying to sort my sig out (Again) and well basically i'm basing it on Famine's sig. Now I want the shortened timestamp the most (21/08/07 16:24) but I also would like the sig to expand using this image () as the trigger to make it expand. I've tried substituting Famine's sig details with mine and then following the instructions on his talk page but i've not had any luck. Any help you can provide would be amazing...So thanks :) -- (Bonner) (Talk) 22:10, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
My sig code

<small><small><span class="nounderlinelink plainlinks" style="font-family": Garamond; font-weight="bold;">[[User:Jocke_Pirat/TheRegister|<span style="color:#666666">Senator, </span>]][[Forum:Join the Grue Army! (Yes, again.)|<span style="color:#666666">Marshal</span>]] <span style="color:#666666">&</span> [[User:Jocke Pirat/UNSOC|<span style="color:#666666">Minister</span>]] [[User:Bonner|<span style="color:#666666">Bonner</span>]] [[Image:Is_loading_3.gif|12px|Wait...]] [[User Talk:Bonner|<span style="color:#666666">Speak!</span>]]</span></small></small>

---

Ok, to add the small timestamp, you just need to go to your preferences, change the nickname box to read {{nosubst|user:bonner/Sig}} {{subst:#time: d/m/y h:i}}, and then remember to only ever sign your posts with three (3) tildes, not four, or you'll end up with two timestamps.

To make your sig expandable, the code is <span class="sigexpand">image here <span class="sighidden">hidden popout stuff here</span></span>

You should probably be able to work it out from that, if not I could help you more. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:05, 29 Sep 2007

Bugger me spang that's bloody fantastic :D Thanks so much :) -- (Bonner) (Talk) 29/09/07 08:41

You're welcome! → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:57, 30 Sep 2007

Template:Vfd

Hi Spang it's Cajek, ideas for VFD template to make the VFD easier:

1. Someone should add Special:whatlinkshere/page to it for research purposes.
2. Also a link to the history of the page, because people forget.
3. There should probably be a link to a gallery of all the images that are used on that page, for QVFD in case it IS deleted.
4. The VFD should sound a little less like there's no hope: "This page does not fit in Uncyclopedia, or is not funny with little chance for redemption" should be changed to "This page may not fit in Uncyclopedia, or may not be funny with little chance for redemption"

What do you think? --  Le Cejak • <-> 18:52, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Well the history and "what links here" links are already on every page, and adding them to the template would be a bit redundant. And I don't think there's a way to list all the images used on a page, and definitely not if it's been deleted. I changed the wording to what you suggested though. → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:56, 30 Sep 2007

Prepare for the thanking of your life!

Prepared yet? TOO LATE!

	The Led Balloon has awarded you a free sample of Stupendous Tropical Meningitis Vaccination A, for voting for Stupendous Tropical Meningitis Vaccination A.
	What a mouth-full...

Thanks for voting for the page with the ridiculously long name! P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 01:20, Oct 3

Oh noes!

The {{title}} template is bust! Again... Still... Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 02:25, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

It's working for me... Must have been fixed already. Or maybe I'm just that good. → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:15, 04 Oct 2007

Odd. Is it IE, then? UnNews:Famous person does something should read UnEntertainment Tonight:Famous person does something. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 05:02, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

It works for me. Sir Cs1987 UOTM. t. c 05:09, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Works for me in IE too. Are you sure javascript isn't turned off on your computer? → Spang ☃☃☃ 07:52, 04 Oct 2007

Javascript? Computer? It doesn't work here, I'll check a different computer when I get home...not that I'm at work (/me looks over shoulder) Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 09:53, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Ah. It works on both IE and FF at home, which makes it a work thing. Did I say "work"? I meant "coffee shop" or "something else"... Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 01:01, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Once Again

I am in need of your assistance...
(Sorry) :S

I was wondering how you replaced the Uncyc logo on your userspace with something else. I asked on IRC and was told to ask an admin...And you seem to be the best at this sort of thing so. I have the image where it should be on my userpace but it appears under the Uncyc logo. Thanks in advance for any help :) (Bonner) (Talk) Oct 6, 17:03

I didn't replace the logo, it's just a positioned picture. It just happens to be the same colour as the text, so it just looks like it goes over it, and actually goes under it like any other picture will do. → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:55, 06 Oct 2007

Javascripts

I was wondering, could you help me with my javascript. I needed it so when you revert an edit, the text in the edit summary will come up as Reverted edit(s) of $1 (talk) to last version by $2 and when you add a maintence template (i.e. {{Expand}} and {{VFD}}) to an article, there will be an automatic edit summary, thanks. --Sir Manforman 18:06, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I fixed your js, you hadn't copied the functions properly. They should both what you asked anyway. → Spang ☃☃☃ 00:23, 07 Oct 2007

Thanks. I was wondering if (1), when I click the VFD button, the VFD template would appear at the top instead of the bottom, (2), if the added edit buttons would only appear when I'm editing an article in the mainspace or UnNews space, thanks--Sir Manforman 12:40, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Your IRC Javascript Help

Bonner has tried to bake you a...Well, a something. (It's the thought that counts) For being a Javascript whizz (:

No problem! → Spang ☃☃☃ 14:03, 12 Oct 2007

Undo an image update .

Suspect image

It appears someone uploaded this image im place of an old one . As an administrator could you reverse this image to the image of a cute anime styled girl as this new image is completely unreleated . From your friend of many ? years Richardson j 22:35, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry .

Somebody already fixed it .

Sorry, I was away. I'm pretty sure normal users can revert images too, by clicking the "revert" button next to the version you want to revert to. Or just ask an admin to, that's probably easiest. → Spang ☃☃☃ 14:00, 12 Oct 2007

Heeeeeelp Meeeee...

Someone on IRC told me you know how I can get my Unicode fonts upgraded. Is this true? --SPY Administrator (Complain|I rock|In memoriam) HMRFRA WH 22:10, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean, upgraded? You can download a unicode font, but you can't upgrade a font. Also, change your username. → Spang ☃☃☃ 11:24, 18 Oct 2007

He asked on IRC because he can't see Tom's commie symbol (☭). I thought that he was using an older IE, as it displays as a box on it, but he's tried both the newest IE and FF. I told him to ask you because you're the Carnac the Magnificent of such nerdy things. Also, this isn't my talkpage. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 11:55, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

In that case, he needs to install a font that has the unicode symbol he want to display. Unfortunately, fonts with all the unicode characters (there's currently 96,382 of them) are hard to come by if you haven't got Windows XP/Vista or Microsoft Office installed. Follow the instructions here to install it if you've got Office installed, otherwise this page lists many fonts that support the misc. symbols which is probably what you're looking for. → Spang ☃☃☃ 12:15, 18 Oct 2007

Thingy!

Hey there, Spang. I gave up on the cow thing, so here's this instead.

Thingy Award I hereby bestoweth on thee, the Thingy Award with a level of awesome Just because I felt like it. Congratulations

hooray! The.original.joe.shmoe blahalfalfa!! 02:26, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Hooray! A thingy! Thank you! → Spang ☃☃☃ 16:38, 21 Oct 2007

ABUSE!

You abused my user page! :)

- Admiral Enzo Aquarius-Dial the Gate 20:52, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Slander! Libel! I would never do any such thing! → Spang ☃☃☃ 20:56, 23 Oct 2007

Like z0mg! :O - Admiral Enzo Aquarius-Dial the Gate 20:58, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

DPL

Thanks for getting my DPL to work. Nothing like some good, useless, yet shiny functionality on the ol' userpage. I'm really starting to dread "upgrades" around here... – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 23:24 Oct 24, 2007

You're welcome. I do like the ol' functionality too, there's nothing like putting hundreds of hours work in for 10 seconds saved in the future! → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:29, 24 Oct 2007

Isn't "good, useless, yet shiny functionality" an oxymoron? ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 09:10, 25 October 2007

Not at all. It serves a function, which it does rather well. The function just happens to be useless, and takes more effort to implement than it does to manually perform it. But that's most of technology anyhow. I'm being technological! – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 16:06 Oct 27, 2007

Rick Roll

Okay, original I had pasted a bunch of Rick Astley gifs, wrote down the the lyrics to Never Gonna Give You Up, and said "FU Spang! You will not censor me!" But I have learned in the past that aggrivating people does not solve your problem. So I will ask you nicely. Can you please restore me Rick Roll page? I barely even use it anymore. It was EnzoAquarius that would paste his version in forums, and Manforman would spam my page here and there. Once again, could you please restore it? It has sentimental value. -- Kippy the Elf Talk Works ☃ 08:57, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I haven't spammed the template for 2 weeks, it was Capercorn who spammed the template 2 days ago--Sir Manforman 13:50, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Spang, I have a complaint for you as well regarding the Rickroll template. Why didn't you delete it and list it on UN:PT instead? :) —Hinoa talk.kun 16:01, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

2 Things

First it appears Braydie's back & 2 it takes 10 hours to download your talk page & thats on broadband . Could you archive some of you talk page please so those dialup fools don't have to wait an enternity for it to load up .

Nah, I like it when it takes a long time... if you know what I mean. Page loading times are my thing, I mean. Yeah. → Spang ☃☃☃ 08:08, 05 Nov 2007

Sorry but arc2.0 will never be archived and its 95+ kilobytes by itself! So s2b on dialup then I guess. ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 01:55, 15 November 2007

HEY!

Go on RC!

And look at this!

HELP! --Andorin Kato 06:56, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

THANK you! --Andorin Kato 07:03, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Please kill this user, revert his edits, and delete the pages he moved: Special:Contributions/Grawp_the_Jolly_Giant --AAA! (AAAA) 06:56, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Got 'im. → Spang ☃☃☃ 08:08, 05 Nov 2007

Signature Help

Hello, can you code me a siggy with my name in bright red with 12px font and a little fire right next to it please? Thanks, -Razorflame 18:48, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Mayyybe... if I get bored enough. But it's more fun to learn how to do it yourself, right? Right! → Spang ☃☃☃ 18:04, 14 Nov 2007

RE: that IP Newpages forum

/me locks the door. I hope you enjoy it in there, voting.....for the rest of your life! Muahahahahaha! Sorry to bring my idiocy here, but the forum is locked. :( It makes me a saaaaaad panda. - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 02:23, Nov 13

You can't blame me, I didn't protect it! I didn't even realise it was protected when I added the comment. But at least now only the cool people can contribute to the discussion. That's the best way to gain consensus, right? → Spang ☃☃☃ 20:10, 13 Nov 2007

Yeah, only the cool people, now we can-- wait... I'm not an admin...are you saying I'm not cool?!? I'll have you know, sir, that my mom tells me I'm cool almost every night. Usually right after she tells me what a huge mistake I was. Ah, good times... - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 20:55, Nov 13

UnNews

Hey Spang, something very weird happened in the UnNews main page. The first two featured had something wrong with the pic presentation within the template (the images aren't showing, just the image text). When I switched to IE from FF, you don't even get to see the page. Can you take a look? ~ 21:04, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

I fixed this ages ago, just forgot to say here. In case you were still wondering or something. → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:44, 28 Nov 2007

Kitten Huffing

Why did you un-nominate it? --– Preceding unsigned comment added by Benno briton (talk • contribs)

You can see the reasons for removed nominations by looking at Uncyclopedia:VFH/Failed (the "recently failed" link in the nav bar at the top of VFH). In this case, I removed it because Kitten Huffing has already been featured 3 times. → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:43, 28 Nov 2007

3 times on what? --– Preceding unsigned comment added by Benno briton (talk • contribs)

Uhh... 3 times on uncyclopedia. You do know you're on uncyclopedia, right? And you do know what VFH is for, right? You nominated the article to be featured on the front page. It's already been on there 3 times. Perhaps you should also read the Beginner's guide. → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:50, 28 Nov 2007

thanks spang

kbai --Charitwo 03:00, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Any time. → Spang ☃☃☃ 20:16, 29 Nov 2007

Yoinxx News!

Hello, Yoinxxer Spang. You now exchange stuff at the UnCyc, the Yoinxx based store and take part of Top Chop, the Potatochopping coni-test. Or make a store of your own to make even more Yoinxx than usual. You can also buy stuff from the Ystore and preorder things for the Yhouse (Coming soon). --Sir General Minister G5 FIYC UPotM [Y] #21 F@H KUN 12:22, 29 November 2007 (UTC

*downloads from bittorrent instead* → Spang ☃☃☃ 20:15, 29 Nov 2007

Article of da year 2007

Do you know when voting will start?

The voting will start on January 1st, 2008, as as soon after that as someone can be bothered starting the voting. → Spang ☃☃☃ 20:18, 29 Nov 2007

My IP edits

Before I created this username, I made many edits under the IP address User:68.111.167.39, and I would like to merge my anonymous contributions with my logged-in ones. Is there any way I could do that? --YeOldeLuke 23:57, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Nope. Well, you could try and get the wikia techs to go into the database and change the values themselves manually, but there's a less than 0 chance of anyone doing that. The best thing to do would to create a userpage for the IP and just redirect it to yours or put a note on it saying it's you. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:57, 30 Nov 2007

Can I still use the anonymous edits to help my edit count reach 500? I want to adopt somebody, but I need 500 edits first. --YeOldeLuke 20:29, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

If you like, but I think the 500 edits thing is more of a guideline than a rule. If you think you can help someone get to grips with how the site works, then you should be able to adopt someone. → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:06, 02 Dec 2007

Oh, noes: part XIVRX

Trying to be a good cowboy, after noticing that Uncyclopedia:VFH/queue has nothing for today, I attempted to featurate (or featurificate) Jaws did WTC (the high score on VFH). As per Forum:Feature_queue, I did step one, refreshed, step two, step three...and it says ...This will give you a link to add the article to the queue. Click it and follow the instructions in there. Save.. There's no "save". The page is all "This page has been protected from editing, because it is included in the following pages, which are protected with the "cascading" option turned on...", and I'm all "No way!" and it's all "Way!". The code works, I just can't save it (well, I did save it here User:Modusoperandi/Jaws did WTC), and did put the templatey thingy on the Jaws/WTC page. What did I do wrong? Did I not turn it off and on again enough? Why is Template:Featuredarticle/queue protected from my sweaty hands? Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 09:03, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, thanks for picking up where the admins failed, but the featured article page is protected because that's what goes on the front page. If there was something between "be an admin to edit this" and "wait 3 days to edit this", we'd probably use that, but it's best it be protected from evil. Plus there's lots of codey stuff in there that about 2 people understand, and is best not messed with. So yeah, you need to be an admin to feature. Another couple of days and you might have been fine! Was there no admins in irc? Not even a wikia helper/janitor that could be convinced? Must have been a slow night. I'll just skip today's feature and move it to December 1st for featuring. Just another one of the arguments to have more admins! → Spang ☃☃☃ 20:41, 30 Nov 2007

There was nobody. Just me and a tumbleweed. I named it Darlene. We're getting married in the Spring. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 21:48, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

UNLIMITED POWER

Thank you muchly For allowing me access to UNLIMITED power I shall now fulfill my destiny December 8 11:22 Mordillo (Talk) blocked Mordillo (Talk) (Infinite) (Clear off!).

~ 16:43, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

FU SPANG

*Flips the bird*     EugeneKay wuz here (whine thank)   00:00, 4 December 2007 (UTC)  

Just checking

Hey Spang! I sent you an e-mail via Uncyc the other day - did you ever get that? I'm not sure how important it is, though I suppose it seemed important at the time...  c • > • cunwapquc? 14:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Ah, so you did! I don't check that email address too closely these days, so must have missed it. I shall reply forthwith! → Spang ☃☃☃ 19:39, 06 Dec 2007

Javascript troubles...

Hey Spang, I recently decided to implement some javascript to enhance my uncyc experience, and after deciding to steal all of U.U.'s js(sorry, I'll give it back, I swear!), I noticed that I had to edit the autowelcome script, so that I could display my own, personalized, extra shiny welcome message. My question to you, Spang, (I know you're out there!) is why isn't the bit of code I whipped up(as in "stole from UU again") welcoming users with my version of the welcome template(which I stole from HerrDoktor)? - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 20:00, Dec 6

Should be fixed now. Oh, and that looks more like Bonner's js than Under user's, so it probably came from there. And Bonner's JS is mostly mine originally. Damn javascript thieves! → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:40, 06 Dec 2007

I AM NOT A THIEF!! Well, actually, yeah, I kinda am. Oh well. - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 21:42, Dec 6

Just got a chance to test it. Thankies for all the help, Spang. - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 22:23, Dec 6

User:TheLedBalloon has awarded you a cookie! Now go play in traffic.

Y'welcome! → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:02, 06 Dec 2007

QA Alert!

Hellooo I'd like to post a QA issue. I removed an article from VFH today, and posted out a long and tiresome remark that explains why am I such a tiresome person. That long remark completely fucked up the recently failed que, when I reverted and reposted it in a short version, it was ok. Now do with me as you will....:) ~ 16:13, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Had a look, but no idea what happened. Could have been a stray comma or something odd somewhere. Wiki fairies, probably. → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:31, 14 Dec 2007

Complimentary award

Marshal Uncyclopedian! Talk to me!

I win in some way, because I did that picture you used in that template. So there! → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:30, 14 Dec 2007

Hello, me again

Would it be possible to implement a similar auto update system on the UnNews main page, like the one we have on the main page? ~ 11:49, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Possibly, but would it be necessary? VFH articles don't have any specific time they have to be on the page by, but news articles are supposed to highlight the most interesting "headline" story at the time that people will know about and want to read about. If you see what I mean. Having a VFH-style system would probably involve a voting process which would slow it down, a queue for which we could never plan ahead for (because you can't predict the news), and each highlight would only be there for a limited time, no matter how long it was actually in the news for. I think the current system is far easier and far more useful for news stuff. → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:41, 14 Dec 2007

Thing is, it's entirely dependent on Zim, and if he's away nothing moves for days. I wasn't thinking about a vote, more like an auto movement once the lead article has been updated. ~ Mordillo where is my RAT'S COCK? 23:47, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Nobody's stopping other people doing what zim's doing. If he's not doing it fast enough, feel free to jump in if it needs changing. → Spang ☃☃☃ 00:07, 15 Dec 2007

Take over Zim? He's the dirt under my rollers! :) ~ Mordillo where is my RAT'S COCK? 00:09, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Xmas!

Bonner would like to wish you a Merry Christgame And a happy New Game P.S, You just lost the game (Bonner) (Talk)

Merry Christmas Despite being required by British law to carry an umbrella throughout December, and to respond to all festive cheer with "Bah Humbug", nonetheless I wish you a very Merry Christmas. Or Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, or whatever other gnostic mystical mumbo-jumbo you colonials practice these days. Just don't tell the Queen.

-- Sir Codeine K·H·P·B·M·N·C·U·Bu. · (Harangue) 21:43, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Pagans, the Whole Lot of Yous Premier Tom Mayfair has been a naughty boy this year, but he still deserves a kiss from under the mistletoe. His external organ is fair game.

	Heya, The Led Balloon here, wishing you merry Christmas, or any other holiday you feel like celebrating. Just remember what it's all really about: NO WORK, NO SCHOOL, FREE STUFF!!!
	Here's to hoping your school(or work) calendar for December doesn't look too much like this...

Merry Christmas, - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 01:08, Dec 17

Merry Christmas! or whatever it is you new-fangled Christians do at this time of year. From Rabbi Techno

Merry Christmas. ~ Mitch

-- Mitch 13:20, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

~ Merry Xmas Spang/archive19! ~ Ye Olde Luke

--YeOldeLuke 08:00, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Template:Spoiler

Could you remove the Everyone Dies™ message from Template:Spoiler? It's outside the option tags and it kinda annoys me. Also remove the message about how someone is quite possibly about to lock the template, because, um, it's already locked. --L 10:09, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Done and done! → Spang ☃☃☃ 09:07, 24 Jan 2008

Top 10 articles

Hello master Spang. Since we'll start featuring the top ten articles soon, do you have any smart way to work the queue? The only thing I thought about was just playing manually with the featurequeue template... ~ Mordillo where is my RAT'S COCK? 22:35, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Featuring them in the normal way should work fine, unless you want to feature them all at once. In which case just replace the {{subst:nextfeatureslot}} part with the actual date you want it featured, and it should be fine. And don't try to feature anything the normal way until there's less than 3 articles still queued. Also, the whole matial law VFH thing is quite unnecessary, having been around for 2 of these before, there's nothing to worry about there. → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:12, 30 Jan 2008

Thanks! And for the martial law, it's not because of that, it's because I just keep seeing articles stacking and stacking and failing with 4 votes while the top articles get a max of 12 and 13. It worked, more or less, last time - hopefully it will again. ~ Mordillo where is my RAT'S COCK? 07:39, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

BTW, does this mean that I can built up a queue for 10 days? Or work with three day bloc? And do I need to update to FA template on the articles themselves? Sorry for being a pain.... ~ Mordillo where is my RAT'S COCK? 15:15, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Yup, it's just that {{nextfeatureslot}}, which automagically puts in the next available feature date in lots of places, won't go further than 5 days in the future, so you'll need to enter the dates yourself instead of the template where it appears. In 31 January 2007 format. The articles don't need an FA template, because they all already have one. They should get a 2007Top10 template though, in the style of {{2005Top10}} and {{2006Top10}}. → Spang ☃☃☃ 20:13, 30 Jan 2008

allright! I'll be sure to contact you when I fuck everything up! :) ~ Mordillo where is my RAT'S COCK? 22:15, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Me again, I saw the change you made for the featurearticle/include - and unfortunately we can't use it due to tied articles. However, is it possible to make a template that I will put a value beforehand, and it will change automatically when it's 0000GMT? ~ Mordillo where is my RAT'S COCK? 12:10, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, didn't cound on that. The ways you could do that would be either: {{#ifeq: {{CURRENTDAY}} | Wednesday | 8 | 9 }} or something, but you'd still have to edit it each day, or, use a switch to put all the numbers in beforehand, including ties, like {{#switch: {{CURRENTDAY}} | Monday = 9 | Tuesday = 8 (tied) | Wednesday = 8 (tied) }} which is probably better. Although that example won't work because the days would be the date numbers, not names. Not too hard to work out though.

Also, {{nextfeatureslot}} has stopped working because it needed FAs to be placed to link to the right place so it knew what was featured then. So now {{2007Top10}} has a parameter for the date it was featured (in the form {{2007Top10|1 February 2008}}), and that should fix {{nextfeatureslot}}. → Spang ☃☃☃ 12:31, 03 Feb 2008

I was wondering about the queue, it started behaving all weird...As for the switch command, I just need to create it in my space and link to it from the featurearticle/include headline? ~ Mordillo where is my RAT'S COCK? 12:38, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey

Archive! See this page please User:Severian/sandtable-- Sir Severian (Sprich mit mir!) 19:09, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey. No! ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 08:19, 03 February 2008

Tables?

Felicitations and solicitations!

Some kindly old fellow has directed me to you, as I would like a bit of help with formatting. My article needs better tables, as at the moment, they are dog ugly. If you could sort of direct me in the right direction, that would be brilliant.

Ciao --DyslexicRetard 02:56, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page, because you're probably not watching this any more! → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:15, 15 Feb 2008

Can you

Come over to IRC for a bit? Brigadier Sir Mordillo GUN UotY WotM FP UotM AotM MI³ AnotM VFH +S 14:15, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Tanks

The Uncyclopedia Health Service gives you a human arm as a token of our appreciation for your vote. Use it as a doorstop, sex aid or nice side to dinner; enjoy. DJ Irreverent

NINJASTAR

No need to thank me kid, that's just what I do. *gazes into middle distance, walks into sunset* → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:07, 11 Feb 2008

User:Mr C. Norris

Hey, saw yew were talking on that dude's talk page. I've seen him doing things to warrant banning but he's sort of passed under the radar. Just thought I'd give yew the heads up, he's pissing me off :P --_^(sir)Fag!chat|pee|fail|vote! 16:21, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I'll keep my eye on him. → Spang ☃☃☃ 12:48, 28 Feb 2008

Given name

Spang, why did you delete given name? --Gangstah fo shizzle • MUN • Talk • Contributions • Article • Forum 04:55, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Because it seemed to be just a list of names, and names aren't generally funny per se. Also, it was a list. Lists are discouraged unless they have actual content to go with them. I could restore it to your user space to work on if you'd like? → Spang ☃☃☃ 12:50, 28 Feb 2008

America

Hellair! How do I queue it for a feature on the 4th of July? Does it need to be on the queue for the next four months? Thanks! ~ 22:26, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Just make sure you replace {{nextfeatureslot}} with "4 July 2008". And yes, it'd have to sit on there for 4 months. You could put a box round it reminding people not to remove it yet. Or just feature now, the featured revision would be 4 months out of date by the time it was featured anyway. Could always do a reskin on July 4 and just have it as the featured article again as part of the reskin? Or whatever. → Spang ☃☃☃ 13:56, 29 Feb 2008

A`ight. Thanks. ~ 15:19, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Thankings

Hey Spang, just wanted to say thanks for the nom+votes for me on VFS. I appreciate it very much, and I'll try my best to be an all round good admin. Obviously. =D - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 04:27, Mar 1

And just to show how much I really mean it:

Thankings from Led Thanks muchly for the vote for me on VFS. Now to abuse my powers... 03:38, 1 March 2008 TheLedBalloon (Talk | contribs) blocked <insert name here> (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of infinite ‎(Muahahahaha!))

- P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 04:50, Mar 1

Late Thanks

OUI! Necropaxx's belated thanks go with you for voting positively on Siege of Bordeaux. Remember, les français ne sont jamais au dessus de dérision! Translate it yourself, je suis trop de fatigue.

• • • Necropaxx (T) {~} 01:01, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Deleting a page I made

Apparently I made a page with the title Otter, and someone huffed it because the only text it contained was "YOUR MOOTHER". Was that true? Because when I made it, it did NOT say that. You probably won't remember, but I'm just asking. --Beachpenguin 02:46, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

That version was deleted before you made your version. Your one was deleted because it was tagged as {{ICU}}. I've restored it for you, feel free to edit. → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:52, 02 Mar 2008

Oh, it was dumb. You can leave it deleted. --Beachpenguin 02:58, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Ban needed!

[1] needs a ban ASAP. Ban him and I shall grant you 1 (one) pie of a flavor of your choosing. --Sir Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • CUN) 05:54, Mar. 2, 2008

Way ahead of you! Well, only a little, but it still counts! → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:57, 02 Mar 2008

And I would've beaten you if it weren't for this page's meddling size! --Sir Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • CUN) 05:58, Mar. 2, 2008

Ha ha ha ha! → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:01, 02 Mar 2008

Archive Your Talk Page Please

IT IS REALLY BIG --Charitwo^Talk 06:02, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

I know! High 5!! → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:07, 02 Mar 2008

Grr... Either make it smaller or I will use my shrink ray to gradually reduce the size of your genitalia until they no longer exist. --Sir Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • CUN) 06:09, Mar. 2, 2008

It's also making firefox go so slow that it's about to crash and my computer is practically grinding to a halt. --Sir Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • CUN) 06:13, Mar. 2, 2008

Use section editing? → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:31, 02 Mar 2008

That doesn't help with actually loading the page itself and viewing diffs. --Charitwo^Talk 06:42, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Use &diffonly=y on diffs. I'll archive it when I'm good and ready! → Spang ☃☃☃ 07:06, 02 Mar 2008

Good for you! Down with officious archiving! What do we want? LONG TALK PAGES, When do we want it? NOW! Power to the pages! Fight for your right to download! And so on ;) ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 07:35, 08 April 2008

P.S. Its weird indenting this way again after so long!

LOLZORZ for Gobshite

You know you want to. -- §. | WotM | PLS | T | C | A 22:04, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

I want to do everything to do with Emperor Alex Wang. PBUEAW! → Spang ☃☃☃ 10:05, 05 Mar 2008

John Cage/Kamelopedia

I'm glad you like my little work (I like you article as well) ... feel free to take, what you need (sorry for my terrible English) --WiMu 19:28, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Canadians video

Hey, wanted to invite you to check out the video I started to Modusoperandi's audio "Canadians". You're welcome to comment and help me finish it. IdoSet 13:19, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Thx! I posted it on the article, and hope to see contributions... IdoSet 11:51, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

JS

Many thanks for your comments and help with my .js I have it working now, and it's much faster. I don't understand why my cache is not working correctly on Firefox, as IE is fine (though the js mostly does not work). I still think it's a good idea for people to paste code together into one lump even if speed is not an issue, but I guess not doing so allows others to automatically get bug fixes and the like. I'm going to be doing some other new .js stuff in the near future, so hopefully you will not mind me picking your brains now and again if I get stuck with something. Thanks again for the help. :-) MrN 13:09, Mar 5

Video extension

Hi, it was taken off after Sannse wrote, for some reason (or Unreason) that there was a consensus for it to be disbaled. I know "true" and "Untrue" are pretty delicate words, so I'll just say this: IT SUCKS!!! I thought we agreed it was worth a shot, and that you liked the canadians video. Were you lying all along? Seriously now: enough people said it was worth a shot. How come a wikia staff memeber can come and disable it, 10 days after the discussion was over, just like that? Where is this world coming to? IdoSet 08:15, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Well I thought it was worth a shot, and had no part in disabling it. It does suck. I was trying to convince people it's a good idea! Some people just won't be convinced though :(

And it's a well known fact that wikia is evil, but they can only go on what the majority of people say to try and keep most people happy, unfortunately. → Spang ☃☃☃ 13:50, 11 Mar 2008

About the rating system

Do you think you could incorporate a setting for disabling ratings? --Sir Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • CUN) 22:44, Mar. 11, 2008

Sir

Please ban this dude http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/Special:Contributions/68.183.170.171 --Charitwo^Talk 02:05, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Give me some credit

Spang, I think I'm the last person around here you can call trigger happy. Have you noticed the RC with this username? If he edits a lot it would become impossible to read. And when you follow the damn RC all day long, it becomes a nuisance. Cheers. ~ 16:32, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

YOU BASTARD!

YOU TOOK AWAY MY 666!!!

FOR THIS YOU SHALL PAY!

MWAHAHAHA!!!! sleepygamer _{Phencyclidine} TALK _STUFF 14:25, Mar 18

Help with wikicode

Hello; I'm a Sysop of Wikichan, and recently we've been bombarded with several vandal attacks. Anyways, I've talked to Thekilerfroggy, and he suggested for me to ask both you and Algorithm for help with editing the code to allow for Sysops to use "Semi-protection". Bot 22:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

...among other helpful things you could think of. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​UU​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 23:09, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

What we call semi-protection is the same as your "no anonymous editors" option with a few settings changed. You need whoever owns the webserver itself (wikisysop, I'm guessing) to make some changes if you want it to be any use. This manual page on preventing access list lots of methods you could use to stop vandal attacks, but all of them require the owner of the server to do them.

Some useful changes would be - changing $wgAutoConfirmAge to something more than 0. What that'll do is make sure an account has been registered for a certain amount of time before it can edit a "no anonymous edits" protected page. Here, it's 3 days, and is usually enough to stop most determined vandals. You can also edit the group permissions for the entire wiki, so after registering an account, they'd need to wait that amount of time before editing anything. You could also set it to require a confirmed email address to be able to edit. A more extreme method would be to have only sysops be able to create accounts for people who ask for them. If none of that made sense, or the owner needs help doing them, I'd be happy to explain better.

When you're dealing with very determined vandals like this, there's not a lot a sysop can do except revert and block them when they appear. More sysops would help, so get wikisysop to make you a bureaucrat if he's not around that much. But it wouldn't fix the problem. → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:36, 22 Mar 2008

Okay Spang, found you.

I saw you in the shoutbox. So now I just have to know, how do I change my skin so that I can use that thing, and the other widgets too? The best I can do right now is add &useskin=quartz to the end of a URL. – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 04:44 Mar 27, 2008

Yay! Someone else found the shout box!

To see the widgets, you need to use a skin that has them enabled, which at the moment is only quartz and monaco. Put useskin=monaco on the end to see that (it's a lot nicer than quartz). But as far as I know, you can't save those skins as they're not in the options, because they used to break uncyc. They seem to work now though. There might be a way to hack it to be able to save them, I'll have a look in a bit. → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:00, 28 Mar 2008

Theres a shoutbox? Ooooer, I love shoutboxes! ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 07:45, 08 April 2008

Yeah, but only in certain skins. Or a certain special page (which seems to have disappeared now, which is odd). Try this! → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:05, 09 Apr 2008

You liked my Main Page, didn't you?

DIDN'T YOU! --Lt. High Gen. Grue The Few The Proud, The Marines 03:15, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

It wasn't the worst one, but that's not saying much. → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:22, 01 Apr 2008

Spang. Things were said. FU SPANGs were said, specifically. And I just wanted to say that I'm sorry again, and here's a carrot cake as an apology:

APRIL FOOLS I ATE IT.

But I'm still sorry. -- §. | WotM | PLS | T | C | A 03:58, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

No worries! → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:42, 08 Apr 2008

I didn't get the chance to bitch about it on IRC, so I'll bitch in your talk page instead. The community voted to unprotect the main page. Generally, when the community votes to do something, that's what the site does, even if it does happen to annoy one admin. --THE 22:57, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I just realized you probably only protected it because someone moved it and screwed up the site. If that's the case, then I'm sorry for whining and completely misunderstanding. --THE 23:08, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Bit of both, to be honest. Someone moved it somewhere else, and while the real Main Page was somewhere else, people created a new one in its place, and somehow one of those revisions got corrupted so it couldn't be edited or even deleted. I figured out how to get rid of it (which involved protecting it, ironically) and then moved the real main page back and protected it to stop it being moved again, and to make sure it was actually still working. But then couldn't be bothered unprotecting it again, and went to do something else. But STM's main page was way better anyway. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:42, 08 Apr 2008

Of course, the whole thing could have been foregone if TKF had just left it move-protected. Ah, memories.-~~ Sir Ljlego, GUN  [talk] 19:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Arc-hiving

I know this may seem like sacrilege to suggest, but the arc is a big boy now, all grown up at the wise old age of 1. Most web-content his age is moving out of home and getting its own place, maybe its time we at least let him move into the sleep-out? *sniffle* Our little boy is growing up so fast *lump-in-throat* ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 10:03, 08 April 2008

I dunno... I think we can agree the arc can't be compared to any other normal web content! It would just feel strange to not have the arc on my talk page! → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:10, 09 Apr 2008

Template:ICU

Thanks for getting rid of that extra code. I hope everything else is all sound 'n' stuff.-~~ Sir Ljlego, GUN  [talk] 00:21, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

No prob. Everything else seems fine, although probably a bit unnecessary. I mean, there's nothing stopping someone leaving a fix message that says "check the talk page", and then you avoid it linking to a talk page that has unrelated stuff on it. Because a new page will have a talk created for it way more often than someone will actually take the time to write a full talk page explanation of why they're ICUing it. And, even if someone was going to do that, it probably be easier to go ahead and fix the article themselves. → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:16, 09 Apr 2008

I made that talkpage thing in response to the new trend of really really good Pee Reviews. Since the people sometimes make more effort to review an article than the author did to make it, I knew that there were some people for whom the feature would be helpful.-~~ Sir Ljlego, GUN  [talk] 19:46, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

CVP

Why not use it? ~ 19:04, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Because it leaves blue links where it's linked other places, which among other things can confuse interwiki bots who think it's a legitimate article and link it from other uncyclopedias. And it's probably nicer to follow a red link and be told you need to ask to create it, than follow a blue link and be redirected to that instead of the article you were expecting. Probably. Also, Protected titles is much neater. Use that instead. → Spang ☃☃☃ 19:16, 10 Apr 2008

You forgot to say please ;). Alright, thanks. ~ 19:19, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I need a title removed

Can you please remove the title from Make Money Fast, it works so much better without the title. Thanks! --The Improver talk • contribs • 05:31, Apr 23 2008 (UTC)

DPL pruning

I was thinking about just how many things run on DPL, and how many things probably could work similarly without the DPL. The one thing I keep coming back to is the Feature Queue. I know you worked really hard on it, and I know you had to use substantial amounts of magic, but the feature queue isn't serving much purpose right now, as the queue only often goes one day ahead, and it could just as easily be done manually. I'm not trying to burst on your bubble or nothing, but if we need to get rid of complex DPL, then that's the place to start. If it still acts like a problem, we could always change the UnNews Main Page to forums as opposed to DPL, although it would suck majorly. If you need any help, I've learned substantially since our last endeavor, and would gladly assist.~~ Sir Ljlego, GUN  [talk] 01:39, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Well the thing is, it can't just as easily be done manually. We'd have to go back to updating the front page template at exactly the same time each night, which I'm sure nobody want to do. Also, the featured article DPL query is cached and presumably accessed all the time, so it only actually needs to do the query once a day. Depending on how the caching is set up, it might do more, but it's a lot less work than, say VFP. Which uses a lot of complicated DPL, including random parts, so it can't be cached. To be honest, I think VFP and the featured picture template is the most resource intensive of all the DPLs, then probably VFH, and then the featured article system and then the Best Of page, which I'm about to fix.

So in my infinite wisdom, the feature system is fine as it is, but if anything needs to not use DPL to save resources, it's the featured picture system. Though having said that, the way it was done before with very large choose tags and hundreds of templates, changing back to the old system probably wouldn't do that much good. And I am so not changing everything back to the old system, cos it'd take forever to do. → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:43, 25 Apr 2008

Wikipedia uses a very simple, non-DPL system to update its featured articles, and there's no limit to the queue. Why don't we use that? – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 17:04 Apr 26, 2008

Ours would need to be significantly more complicated than that, as wikipedia will always without fail have a featured article queued up. We won't. And I honestly don't think that the feature article DPLs are the ones causing problems. It's most likely to be VFP, if anything, so spending time knocking up a new featured article system wouldn't do much good unless VFP is scaled back first. → Spang ☃☃☃ 00:20, 27 Apr 2008

Fnoodle

Fnoodle has fallen over. Could you restart him?   Le Cejak • <May 01, 2008 [13:13]>

Hey! That's a lie! Fnoodle didn't stop at all! ...I thought talking on its talkpage interrupts it...   Le Cejak • <May 01, 2008 [13:16]>

Well first of all, no, because the bot is running on Dr. Skullthumper's computer and I'd have to go there to restart it, which I don't really have time for. And second, no, because it hasn't actually fallen over. He's still going strong! (but yeah, you knew that already, damn edit conflicts) → Spang ☃☃☃ 13:19, 01 May 2008

Are you saying that... nothing can stop it???   Le Cejak • <May 01, 2008 [13:25]>

Well, it could be banned, but where's the fun in that! It'll be interesting if it makes it through Vandalism/example though. → Spang ☃☃☃ 13:29, 01 May 2008

Radiohead

Dear Spang,

Thank you for referring to the Radiohead article as “awesome”. I am a little ticked off that somebody who didn't “get it” had the nerve to call it random and try to delete it. You know what would stop all these people from trying to “fix” the garble? A successful or even quasi-successful VFH. Somebody oughta do that. cough. nudge. I would have nominated it myself a while ago, but modesty (and Uncyclopedia policy) prevents me from doing so.

Once again, thanks for the vote of confidence! YouFang 17:33, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

You'd be surprised at how often someone doesn't get an article, and their first reaction is to nominate it for deletion. It's hard to strike a balance to make a page good for people who know the subject and people who don't, but as far as I'm concerned, making an article funny to people unfamiliar with the subject is just a bonus.

And y'know, nobody really cares about the self-nom rule thing, it's really only to stop people spending 5 minutes on a page then VFH'ing it :) → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:44, 04 May 2008

Awesome. I've just made a self-nomination with your blessing. We'll see how it fares. YouFang 18:07, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Cool. Shame it didn't get far, though at least it was because it wouldn't appeal to a large audience, rather than not liking the article. Ah well, better luck next time! → Spang ☃☃☃ 17:45, 07 May 2008

I knew that headline will catch your attention

Thanks for that! :) ~ 14:12, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

No problem. I see everything! → Spang ☃☃☃ 17:46, 07 May 2008

Internet Exploder sucks

But you already knew that. When I view my userpage in Internet Explorer, and click "show" on the awards section, the images fly all over the place. Is there any way to fix it? Or should the IE users just suffer? – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 17:08 May 07, 2008

Works fine for me in IE6 and 7. Maybe your IE just just broken. More than usual. → Spang ☃☃☃ 17:23, 07 May 2008

It's only after the "overflow: auto;" section is displayed. And I just found the magical fix. The page describes both problem and solution - just to show you I wasn't hallucinating. This time. – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 17:25 May 07, 2008

Yeah, I showed and hid it, made no difference. Maybe I only looked after you'd already fixed it? → Spang ☃☃☃ 17:32, 07 May 2008

Didn't even apply the fix yet (I only applied the fix to the UnSignpost, where there was also a problem, and it works now!). Go figure. It could be some JS is broken on this computer too also, considering I'm in a tech-paranoid school which blocks and mangles pages. – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 17:35 May 07, 2008

Oh right, I looked again and actually scrolled down past the end of the page this time, and saw the broken stuff. Anyway, glad I was able to help so much. → Spang ☃☃☃ 17:42, 07 May 2008

How do I make a new page?

Hey...I'm new to Uncyclopedia and want to know how to make a new page.

That is all.

Answer my question as soon as possible.

Then go back to eating bacon or getting slain by Chuck Norris or whatever it is you do.

Ninjas? 17:28, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Go to the page you want to create, edit it, then click save. The page is created! To get to a non-existing page, you can type your title into the search box and click go. If the page already exists, it'll take you there, and if it doesn't it'll show you search results. At the top of the search results page there'll be a red link to the title you put in. Click it and start editing! → Spang ☃☃☃ 17:36, 07 May 2008

Or, use Special:Createpage, which is awesomer. Also, Spang, archive your %$#!ing talkpage already. – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 17:38 May 07, 2008

Oh yeah, that too. It's been updated since the last time I looked at that. Possibly.

And I'll archive my talk page when Forum:Count to a million get to a million. Haha! → Spang ☃☃☃ 17:47, 07 May 2008

Whoops, did I do that?

My sources indicate that I broke your page... Sorry bout that! ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 08:40, 07 May 2008

You didn't, Wikia did. You know, I'm very disappointed that Spang wasn't on IRC to say FU WIKIA. – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 20:42 May 07, 2008

Oh, awesome for me then! Also, be nice and stop demanding he archive it please. The more you demand with #@$#*ing symbols the less likely he is do it, and I can tell you, he's already fairly uninclined to archive! Just let the page run its natural course. It really is worth the loading time. ;P ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 08:52, 07 May 2008

Is this nicer? ARCHIVE YOUR F♥CKING TALK PAGE, SPANG ...please? – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 20:55 May 07, 2008

I think that is a rhetorical question. Imo a user's talk page just like their userpages are sacred. It's their's to do with as they wish, and to archive as they wish. I'm gonna leave it at that. ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 09:25, 07 May 2008

I'm quite attached to my long talk page! I'd feel all wrong to archive it for a while. And damn wikia always breaking things. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:29, 08 May 2008

Lolwut?

What's with the "no choose tags in sigs" thing? I don't want to make a rash revert, so I figured I'd get the whole story first. Did this decision take place somewhere and I missed the memo? I don't want to make too big of a scene, I don't use that sig anymore (although I may in the future) but I still want to know what's up. ~Minitrue Sir SysRq! Talk! Sex! =/ GUN • WotM • RotM • AotM • VFH • SK • PEEING • HP • BFF @ 21:10 May 7

The key part was "for now". Choose tags are kinda broken at the moment, and they mess up talk pages where they're used. I'd seen that sig of yours in a lot of places screwing up the formatting, so just simplified it for now. Feel free to put it back when the choose extension is fixed, but until the it's just going to be really annoying on talk pages, so it's best to leave it like that until then. And if you see talk pages where the formatting is all broken, chances are it's someone else's sig that is the same, so at least you know it's not yours that's breaking things now. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:34, 08 May 2008

One year ago today (sort of)

I first posted this here. Funny how things change, innit? Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 21:23, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

A year, for serious? Man. Maaaaan. Well, here's to the next year! → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:52, 08 May 2008

I know, right?. You know, this reminds of that time I posted on Spang's talkpage. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 04:01, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Just thought it should be noted that another awesome year has passed and this talkpage is really only just starting to reach a good lenth! ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 08:43, 18 May 2009

A

Semi-Formal Petition to Reduce The Length Of your Enormous Talk Page So That We Can All Be Happy and Dial-Up Users Can Access This Page Without Having To Wait 50,000 Years For it To Load

Myself along with several users are heavily upset by the ridiculous length of your talk page. It's so big that I cannot load it sometimes and when it does load my browser gets so slow that I have to kill it by force to be able to use anything else on my computer. This forum with an extremely long and impossible to memorize name has our complaints and a list of our supporters on it. We strongly recommend that you listen to this complaint and reduce the length of your page so that we can reduce the length of our arguing. Should you choose not to accept, we shall declare war on you, this talk page, your family, and you. Sincerely, --Sir Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • CUN) 02:03, May. 8, 2008

P.S.: FU Spang.

You can never load it sometimes? Whoa. There's some grammar to get your head round. And yes, I had noticed that. And... no. → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:12, 08 May 2008

My internet usually works fine for everything except this page. I'm also not the only person against the huge size of it. Also, I have made a few grammatical corrections to the request above. --Sir Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • CUN) 02:16, May. 8, 2008

My internet only works fine on this page. So there! Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 04:04, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Don't archive this page, it's more colorful than any other talk page here!--Witt, of UNion Entertain me* 05:44, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!!! That's what I've been saying all along. ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 06:34, 09 May 2008

@ Spang's talk page:

Nominated Article

This article has been nominated for highlighting on the front page—you can vote for it or nominate your favourite articles at Uncyclopedia:VFH. Please see this article's entry.

~Minitrue Sir SysRq! Talk! Sex! =/ GUN • WotM • RotM • AotM • VFH • SK • PEEING • HP • BFF @ 15:55 May 9

Seconded. VGD >=3 18:17, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Question about spelling

(Based on an inquiry at User talk:Dr. Skullthumper#Question regarding Fnoodle on Game Boy) Why is "Gameboy" considered a misspelling? I am fully aware that it is technically incorrect, but aren't there some conceivable circumstances where writing it that way could be intentional? (Admittedly, the Game Boy article is not such a case.) Should a bot really be dealing with edge cases like this? --Pentium5dot1 19:21, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

If it's technically incorrect, where would there be a legitimate use for it? There have also been cases where it's corrected an intentional misspelling or two (like teh), but it's not hard to just change it back in these cases, especially compared to the benefits correcting just about every common typo on the site. And it's only doing this once. → Spang ☃☃☃ 11:11, 14 May 2008

In response to your first sentence: I was thinking that we could use "Game Boy" to mean the game console and "Gameboy" to mean something analogous to Playboy. I have nothing else to complain about, so I rest my case. --Pentium5dot1 03:05, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Haha, you got a Fnoodle question and I didn't! – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 03:07 May 17, 2008

@ Length

Case in hand, your talkpage is more than twice as long as long article. You may want to consider the possibility of archiving. =D VGD >=3 20:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Linux

You reverted a revert I did on the Linux article, with the summary 'Check closer next time'. I checked closer but still don't see what makes the new revision better. I'm not questioning your revert, I was just wondering what I missed. (Bonner) (Talk) May 23, 18:00

It was legitimate cleaning up, not vandalism. The prose is better and it looks less ugly. I meant if you look past the drop in bytes, you can see it's mostly restructuring and quote removal, not just taking random stuff out. And if we reverted every time someone cleaned up an article that needed it just because it ended up with less bytes on it... → Spang ☃☃☃ 18:08, 23 May 2008

The Rating System

Hello Spang!
I am JuninhoJuninho, a friend from the Brazilian Uncyclopedia (Desciclopédia).
I'm very interested in the rating system that I heard you implemented on Uncyclopedia, and I wish we could use it at Desciclopédia.
Is that a MediaWiki extension? How could we implement it at our unclyclopedia?
Waiting for your response.
Thank you very much! JuninhoJuninho 01:04, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi. The rating system itself is actually an extension made by wikia for their "monaco" skin, and the part I wrote was the javascript that lets you use it on monobook type skins. But unfortunately wikia haven't released their code for it yet, so only wikia wikis can use it right now. At the last mention, they said they might release it when it was ready, but I don't know when that'll be. You could always ask them to release it and see what they say! → Spang ☃☃☃ 15:49, 24 May 2008

Eurovision

I was just wondering if you could protect Eurovision Song Contest for a few days. With it being featured and the real thing being last night, it's getting a fair bit of unwanted attention. Thanks. -- 15Mickey20 (talk to Mickey)  11:45, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind. Sannse did it. -- 15Mickey20 (talk to Mickey)  14:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

A CSS request/question thing...

...hey Spang! I ventured onto your long talk page and wasted a good minute or so of my life loading it, cause I have a little request/question for you? Would it be okay for you to insert one line of css code into MediaWiki:uncyclopedia.css or MediaWiki:common.css? All it does is essentially create a class for creating hover links...wait, have a look for yourself:

.hoverchange a:hover{ background:#9CBBC6; border: 1.5px solid black; padding: 3px ! important; }

Is this allowed? Is it okay? I dunno... - [17:10 28 May] Sir FSt. Don Pleb Yettie (talk) QotF BFF NotM RotM UNPotM UGotM CUN PEE SR UnProvise

You can always click the "leave a new message" link before it's finished loading, you know.

What would you need that class for? It's kinda ugly and there's no way to use a different style without adding more classes... → Spang ☃☃☃ 19:18, 28 May 2008

It's ugeley? Oh I didn't test it to see what it would be like. Like this Oh yeah, that's pretty ugly. Ok, what about this:

.hoverchange a:hover{ background: #CCE7F1; padding: 3px; border: 1.5px solid #9CBBC6 ! important; }

That's slightly less ugly... What do you think? Oh and I'm going to use this class (if you're kind enough to add it for me :-) ) in menu header things (I'm creating something called UnProvise with Orian57). - [20:05 28 May] Sir FSt. Don Pleb Yettie (talk) QotF BFF NotM RotM UNPotM UGotM CUN PEE SR UnProvise

Yeah, it's less ulgy, but it's still a bit much to add a class to the sitewide CSS just for one style on one header on one page... perhaps if it could be changed to have a use elsewhere, it could be added. → Spang ☃☃☃ 19:14, 01 Jun 2008

Mordillo sent me here...

I'm hoping that you are an admin. I could not get any help for my issue concerning an article I'd really, really, really like to have in my userspace here and since no one seems to know how to fix it, I'm turning to you - hoping and praying that you can help. You see, I want it to do something like this and I'd like to be able to put my own font on the text (it'll only be one font throughout), and I'd like the title centered and the rest of the text to be just the way it'd normally be - from left to right. If the whole thing has to be centered to get the effect, then that's fine, but I want the background and it needs to be infinite because there is more text to be added than there is at the moment. I wrote the Phantom parody some years ago and I'd really like to host it here on Uncyc. Is there anything that can be done? — Mgr. Nacky (talk) 00:26, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I've added the background to the page for you. Let me know if you want it to have a particular font too. Only thing is it'll stop working if you move the page, and I expect you'll want to move it at some point, so just let me know when you're going to move it. → Spang ☃☃☃ 10:58, 04 Jun 2008

I can't see the maroon background anymore...and no, I wasn't going to move it as it's not an article but just a parody. I know everyone is against me using a textured background, but I say give it a chance first. I did upload the file for it already. Now I can't find it again as it was editted out. :( — Mgr. Nacky (talk) 11:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay I found it, it's here: — Mgr. Nacky (talk) 12:23, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I know, it should already be there, but you might have to refresh... try pressing shift+refresh or ctrl+refresh or something. → Spang ☃☃☃ 20:18, 04 Jun 2008

I'm getting it now...THANKS! Hey can you put a font of Times New Roman on there? Something that looks more "Phantom-ish of the Opera-ish"... — Mgr. Nacky (talk) 03:51, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem. And looks like you and Nyp got the font. I'll have to read that page when I have some spare reading time next! → Spang ☃☃☃ 09:58, 05 Jun 2008

You're Spang. I'm sure you can help.

I want Rafael Nadal to have a black background and need to do something with mediawiki reskinning. I've made this and I think it needs to be added to MediaWiki:Skin/Rafael_Nadal.css or something. I have no idea what I'm doing. All I've done so far is copy the css code for emopedia and change the logo. -- 15Mickey20 (talk to Mickey)  10:22, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Done! Eventually... → Spang ☃☃☃ 19:12, 16 Jun 2008

That looks amazing. Thank you so much! -- 15Mickey20 (talk to Mickey)  15:59, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem :) → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:44, 19 Jun 2008

Prophet?

Yeah, so I sees me a thing on IRC on one of my incredibly rare forays there, and suddenly all I can think is "for soon the cold of night will fall, summoned by your own hand". Now why would that be, I wonder? --SirU.U.Esq. VFH | GUN | Natter | Uh oh | Pee 15:56, Jun 16

Um... uhhhh... suuuuure. O_o *backs away slowly* → Spang ☃☃☃ 19:04, 16 Jun 2008

Er, there was this line from Queen's "The Prophet's Song" on there, and I thought it had been set by you. That's basically the next line, I think. I don't spend much time on IRC, now you know why! ;-) --SirU.U.Esq. VFH | GUN | Natter | Uh oh | Pee 19:11, Jun 16

I see now. Nope, wasn't me! → Spang ☃☃☃ 19:15, 16 Jun 2008

Yup, sorry for the confusion. Also, while I'm here, fancy adding yourself to this? --SirU.U.Esq. VFH | GUN | Natter | Uh oh | Pee 19:18, Jun 16

Sure! → Spang ☃☃☃ 19:22, 16 Jun 2008

splendiferous5 has a problem

I seem to be completely inept when it comes to even beginning to comprehend this whole signature/userpage code/cool little box thing. which is hard for me, as I happen to be an otherwise pretty intelligent guy. PLEASE END MY EMASCULATION! and get back to me when you can.

You should read the bottom section here, first. Actually, that should pretty much cover it. Hope you get over your emasculation soon! → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:36, 30 Jun 2008

{{Given name}}

Well, it's OK to use lots o' names. --Penis · Talk · Contributions 06:21, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Says who? → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:37, 30 Jun 2008

Pommie bastard, leave it. I like it lots. It's not bad. --Penis · Talk · Contributions 06:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

So do I. --MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 06:41, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Aw, you know just how to get someone on your side. I was thinking about doing the subpage thing, but couldn't be bothered. Though why you need tens of thousands of options in a template is a mystery to me. → Spang ☃☃☃ 07:33, 30 Jun 2008

I must be drunk

Because I saw your name appearing in pink!? And with a bot flag?! ~ 07:46, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

You must be drunk! → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:07, 03 Jul 2008

I must be. I also must be stoned because I saw someone called RC Sucks in recent changes. Can I get a new toy too? I played with it yesterday and couldn't get it to work. ~ 07:46, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

I see rc sucks all over the place! Ha ha! Looks like Zombiebaron took everyone's toys away. Also, it's nothing to do with me. Blame everything on rc. He started it. → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:32, 05 Jul 2008

That's very true. —rc (t) 04:31, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Your sig - My sig

My sig is shitty and fucked up. It has the "expand" spans and I don't know what to do, because the date always ends up like you see it below and wtf. You DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT or DIE! --Sir General Minister G5 FIYC UPotM [Y] #21 F@H KUN 12:54, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I choose the second option. → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:08, 07 Jul 2008

and when I said crap

I didn't mean you, I meant threatening users. ~ 22:18, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

And I'll say again I'm pretty sure he wasn't seriously threatening you. Did you read the last bit? (It was rather good and imagine my dissapointment, upon showing it to my friend, who has quite a bit more technical know-how than me to tart it up, to a decent level, and it not existing.). He also said "biatch". Nobody who says that is being serious, it's physically impossible. If the guy wants his page back, saying something like "not until you ask nicely" doesn't really help anyone. And remember who has op seniority, biatch! → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:30, 08 Jul 2008

Well, your majesty, you made me laugh, which is always a good thing. That and your gay sig. Biatch my ass :) ~ 22:32, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Biatch your ass? I'm not sure what that involves, but I'm pretty sure rcmurphy can do it. → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:35, 08 Jul 2008

He can do anything. Except for winning NOTM. ~ 22:36, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

This is the month, brother. I know it. —rc (t) 02:42, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

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Doctor Spang

The VFH/VFHS DPL broke, so it seems. It's not being updated and new noms/old noms are not being added/removed. Please help/advise/ignore/abort/retry Y/N? ~ 08:46, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Seems to be working to me! → Spang ☃☃☃ 09:18, 17 Jul 2008

O_O You know what they say about the "technician's syndrome"? As soon as you call the expert everything works?! Well...there you go...~ 09:21, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

It's possible that wikia changed it to use cached results by default, and it just happened to un-cache as I looked at it... I've changed it so it should always be current unless DPL actually breaks. → Spang ☃☃☃ 09:26, 17 Jul 2008

It's back again, especially this entry. I cleared my cache several times, but it's still there. apparently MrN had the same issue, look at the logs for that entry. ~ 09:28, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm seeing the same problems. This is still showing (on both VFH and VFHS), despite being closed, while this, which I created today, isn't showing on either. (Note: this is not whoring, just giving an example!) Odd. --UU - natter 09:37, Jul 17

And now, in the time it took to save this change to your talk page, it's behaving itself again. Madness, I tells you, madness! --UU - natter 09:39, Jul 17

And now it's not showing again, and neither's MrN's Goldfish nom, and this is still showing and TKF's just tried to close it second time. Aaaaah! Broken wikistuff! --UU - natter 11:47, Jul 17

Broken wikia more like. I remember someone mentioning that wikia was doing something with having some DPL specific caching servers or something. This may be the result of that. Go and complain to them about it. Though it seems as though it shows old results only sometimes, it's possible there's more than one DPL caching server, and one of them isn't updating its cache for some reason. Either way, complain to wikia about it. And then tell them they suck, they love that. → Spang ☃☃☃ 13:24, 17 Jul 2008

Gotcha. --UU - natter 13:29, Jul 17

PRESS

hey there spang, this nosy reporter was wondering if you have any comment on the count to a million project, specifically on the subject of it being an elaborate attempt to test the wiki's restraints / illustrate how easily amused the average uncyclopedian is / obtain my social security number. --SirGerrycheeversGunTalk 19:10, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Well every man wants to leave some kind of legacy behind. One day, our children's children's children will be counting to a million, and I'll be smiling up at them, knowing that I've left the world something great. Same goes for last person to edit wins. That, or the entire thing is just an urban myth, and doesn't really exist. → Spang ☃☃☃ 20:08, 21 Jul 2008

Your user page...

Fucking

Epic

WIN! - Admiral Enzo Aquarius-Dial the Gate 03:39, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I've got a question

I've heard that you are the guy to go to if you want code things. Now, with that said, is there some code that you know of that will make the Uncyclopedia emblem go away up in the left-hend corner? I would like to remove it on my userpage. ~ Mgr.ReadMeSoon!? 23:49, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

It's unfortunately not possible without changing the sitewide css, and we don't really do that for userpages. Maybe one day I'll change it some way so it's possible to place things over it like you're trying to do on your page. I tried already, but then it was impossible to place things under the logo, which the featured template uses. Seems we can't have it both ways! → Spang ☃☃☃ 00:23, 24 Jul 2008

But you can make things go on top? ~ Mgr.ReadMeSoon!? 23:49, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Not really, it involves changing the whole site so either everything goes on top, or nothing does. And there's already stuff that goes under it. I'll let you know if I think of a way to do it. → Spang ☃☃☃ 16:05, 25 Jul 2008

Ok, I added in a thing that lets you hide the logo so you can put something else in its place. Use the {{nologo}} template anywhere on the page and it should disappear like magic! → Spang ☃☃☃ 15:53, 26 Jul 2008

So...

Did you consider asking why Hinoa blocked half of Italy? You know, maybe asking Hinoa or something radical? Or even consulting with some other admins... I know that's a wild concept an all... -- sannse (talk) 09:12, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Considering Hinoa was asked about it over a week ago, and never replied, I didn't think there'd be much point. And sure, if the bans had been made last week, I'd have asked someone, but the bans were nearly a year ago, so thought it was unlikely that the vandal(s) that was presumably the cause of blocking half a country would have given up by now. And as you're someone who dislikes infinite bans on IPs, on account of their probably eventually affecting the wrong people, I would have thought you'd think infinitely hard blocking 5 and a half million IPs (which definitely was affecting the wrong people) would be a bad thing. If there's a reason they should still be there, it's not a problem to put them back again, soft block preferably. → Spang ☃☃☃ 18:58, 28 Jul 2008

Your Top3 automatificator is about one year old! Hurrah!

I know this because it has started listing features from one year ago. Do you have any idea how to make it not do that thing that I mentioned just now? Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 23:42, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Haha! Well there's future planning for you. It should work now. When 2009 comes just change the 2008 to 2009. → Spang ☃☃☃ 00:57, 01 Aug 2008

What do we do when the calendar runs out of years? Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 05:11, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Pee Review Stuff

Hi Spang. :) I was wondering if there was any chance you could take a look at this. I'm hoping it's an improvement to the Pee Review process which takes on board the best of what was said in that forum.... As you said, all we need to do is change some text on the page, and get people to start to follow it... Users can submit by putting the "(quick)" thing after the articles name, so the guys who normally give long reviews can bash something out faster, and notice the (quick) when they look at Uncyclopedia:Pee Review/Current Pees. The wording about adding brief comments without using the table is important. That means that lots of people can add brief comments until such time as someone does a full review using the table (which will remove it from the queue). It means that people don't have to bother to read the guidelines if they just want to make some brief comments...

Led is happy for me to copy this into the actual page now, and Mhaille is cool with it. I just wondered if you had any thoughts before I do. Basically the problem being that when users put a (quick)-'for quick pee' or (resubmit)-'to get a second review' after the name they need to change the link on the generated page. I'm not that great with wiki hacking, so I wondered if you had a solution to this? Is there a way to get it to automatically link to the correct page? Could we use two different boxes, or maybe have a "tick box" or something which people can use to indicate that they want a (quick) review? Not sure how this would work with (resubmit) as obviously there could be 3,4 or multiple review requests (requiring different pages). We are trying to avoid reverting reviews unless they are done in bad faith.

Also, as you probably know (I noticed you edited the template), PEEING have stopped (or should have stopped) using those "Pee Reserved" templates except when actually doing the review immediately. Not sure how we started leaving em on for days, that was not the intention...

Anyway, I hope you like what I'm trying to do here... Obviously go ahead and copy my page over to the actual page if you think you have a solution. You will need to un-comment the categories at the bottom. Cheers. :-) MrN 19:44, Aug 1

Ok, I changed it so that it'll remove things in brackets from the title, unless the brackets are part of the title. So adding (quick) or (resubmit) or whatever to the end works well. It might also be possible to have a template that shows up when (quick) is in the title, so people who don't notice that or don't know what that means can be enlightened. And possibly automatically add a Quick review category.

It might also be an idea to add a "quick review" or just "comments" header to the standard review page for quick comments and suggestions, to show that quick reviews are welcome even for articles that don't specifically request them. That also won't take it out of the queue to be properly reviewed. If you're happy as it is though, feel free to copy it over. → Spang ☃☃☃ 00:44, 02 Aug 2008

Awesome. That appears to work rather well. I will make a few more changes to the "guidelines" to try to encourage some more people to make brief comments, and we can see if we actually get an improvement in how things work. I did notice that UN:PRG appears to be appearing in Uncyclopedia:Pee Review/Reviewed Pee I think because there are two Pee Tables on there which includes the page in the reviewed category. We had been stopping this from happening by putting a <option><choose> block around the tables, but that looks like it's not working anymore... I wondered if you had any idea why this was? MrN 23:07, Aug 4

Could be because the choose extension has been upgraded to parse the contents of options, which is why we can now have choose tags within choose tags, and categories work inside them too. You could fix it by adding a notcategory=Pee_review_stuff or something line to the DPL (or forum, if it uses that), and then add that category to the pages you don't want appearing in the list. → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:27, 04 Aug 2008

Cool. Turned out there was a "notcategory=Uncyclopedia" in the DPL already, so I just added UN:PRG to that category. Many thanks. MrN 23:48, Aug 4

Ratingsystem

Hello Spang,

This is Sergeant Pepper from the Dutch Oncyclopedia. Lately when I was clicking random page here on Uncyc I noticed that a Ratingsystem was added. I've been asking around on IRC and by a short detour I ended up with asking you about it. See, the thing is that we're intrested in using it on our wiki. The import of that was in MediaWiki:Common.js‎ did nothing (as expected). So I would like to ask you if you're willing to help us getting it to work. If so (or if you don't feel like doeing it) could you please leave a message at Vsotvep's discussionpage (a admin who's helping me with this mather) at http://oncyclopedia.net/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Vsotvep. we would really appreciate it if you want to help us with this.

Hope to hear from you soon, greetings, Sgt pepper 23:17, 23 August 2008 (UTC) (http://oncyclopedia.net/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Sergeant_Pepper)
I'm sorry for the language, it's getting rather late her in Holland at the moment.

Hi. The rating system thing here uses wikia's rating system, so it wouldn't work on your wikia, as it's not hosted by wikia. Though trust me, it's hardly worth moving to wikia for. Your best bet would be to find a rating system extension for mediawiki that someone else has already written if one exists, or write one yourself, and get carlb to install it. And then adapt my code to work with it, if it needs it. The one here is lacking a good few features, such as getting the total number of votes, or getting lists of top rated articles, which I can't do anything about. So finding one that does those things would be better anyway. → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:25, 30 Aug 2008

Okay, thanks for the reply. We'll be moving to our own sever soon. Adopting your code sounds like the best thing to do next to finding a excisting one. Again, thanks for the reply. Greetings Sgt pepper 11:48, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

?

? --Sir DJ ~ Irreverent 06:12, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Well basically the secret is that I made you break your ultimatum two more times. But only two because you stopped playing along. I'll have to try harder next time. → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:17, 30 Aug 2008

DAMMIT! /me fell for it big time D: Someone here just got owned --Sir DJ ~ Irreverent 06:19, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Ha ha! And again... :D → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:26, 30 Aug 2008

Template

So yeah, y'know the VFH template? I was just wondering: it picks up the page name automatically to link to the VFH nom and stuff. Is there a way to add the ability to specify a different page name for the VFH nom if it's a re-nom (of a quasi, for instance)? Just occurred to me, so may well have been discussed before, but two seconds' intensive searching revealed nothing and I'm too lazy to look everywhere, so I figured I'd just ask. --UU - natter 07:53, Sep 2

Use the nompage parameter on the VFH template. Like {{VFH|Article (2nd try)}} or whatever. → Spang ☃☃☃ 08:05, 02 Sep 2008

Ah. I see. Sort of tried that, but got confused when it didn't work in a preview. Works fine. I know nothing about anything. Good job I don't work with computers for a living or anything, isn't it? Ta. --UU - natter 08:17, Sep 2

FU...

... From the Philippines! —rc (t) 09:17, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

FU RC... from space! (The space in my head) I'm surprised the Philippines has enough internet to load this page, actually. → Spang ☃☃☃ 09:33, 11 Sep 2008

Yeah, I just have to tolerate slow/broken connections and tiny sweaty internet cafes where locals have no problem blatantly peering over your shoulder at your personal emails and such.

Okay, see you again in another month maybe. Give my love to whoever's left at this joint. —rc (t) 09:56, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

categories

hey spang, is there a way to add a category to a page without the category box appearing at the bottom? i ask because the same articles (An article that contains nothing but a full stop, International Page Blanking Day, etc.) tend to clog up the uncategorized pages. thanks! SirGerrycheeversGunTalk 19:45, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

I left those out, it was my understanding that re-skins or pages that were novelty rather than articles were not categorized... — Sir Sycamore (talk) 19:49, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

right, i'm just looking for a way to put these pages in, say, Category:Uncyclopedia In-Jokes, without mucking up the page itself with a category box. SirGerrycheeversGunTalk 20:14, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

No, because putting anything else on those pages, even hidden, would defeat the joke of them. And I doubt they're "clogging up" the maintenance pages. Maintenance pages like that are never going to be empty really, so you might as well have some you expect to be on there. People were the same with the full stop article always being at the top of short pages list, but they got used to it eventually. → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:05, 11 Sep 2008

okay, that's what i expected, but i just wanted to double-check. most of those pages are protected anyway, i was thinking more along the lines of Phishing. and i guess you're right about the 'clogging up' bit, there's only ever about 100 pages anyway and it's easy to pick out the new additions. thanks. SirGerrycheeversGunTalk 21:20, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!!

Blue Power Ranger thanks you for voting! So you liked my tale of displeasure, huh? That's nice. Hey, maybe I could write a book about it! Before long I'll be outselling Pelzer!

Hey! I'm pretty sure we have talked before but your page isn't on my watch list so I'll take this opertunity to give you my formal greetings. Hi, I'm Orian, pleased to meet you. Also, I've been asking everyone, what was it you liked about the article? I've never seen something get so many votes and no againsts and am just wondering what I did right. thanks again! SK Sir Orian57Talk RotM 03:12 13 September 2008

Is TKF being a Numpty?

I noticed you unblocked a few people who TKF banned, but his non-descript ban reasons don't really say much.

I'm not intervening or anything, just curious. -- Prof. Olipro KUN (W)Anchor Op Bur. (Harass) 03:34, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

TKF likes to ban people who leave "I'm leaving" notes on their userpage. I'm not sure of his reasoning, but I don't think it's entirely constructive. Or maybe it is. Who knows! → Spang ☃☃☃ 13:34, 24 Sep 2008

Forum:Last person to edit wins Dearchival

Well, I am noting this on your talk page that you dearchived Forum:Last person to edit wins. I Archived it because it was over 50 KB long and to try to save you guys some bandwidth. Well, based on looking at your talk page here you POV seems that you love long pages, so can you go ahead and huff Forum:Last person to edit wins/archive1. My only other option is revert war and I don't want to go there again. ----Pleb- Sawblade5 ^{( yell | FAQ | I did this )} 04:55, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Making that page harder for other people to edit is not really a problem :P → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:58, 29 Sep 2008

You mean like this talk page? --Charitwo^Talk 05:02, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Sure, it tends to keep people who can't form a legible message away from it... → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:05, 29 Sep 2008

Whoa Black Betty, spang-a-lang
Whoa Black Betty, spang-a-lang
Black Betty had a child, spang-a-lang
The darn thing gone wild, spang-a-lang
She said she's beating up her mind, spang-a-lang
The darn thing is blind, spang-a-lang
I said oh Black Betty, spang-a-lang
Whoa Black Betty, spang-a-lang

--Bill Hart 16:38, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for feature update

Thanks for updating the featured version of the Marijuana article to include my last edit. Though, the change I made was small and probably not that significant, I do appreciate that you took the time to include it. --Naughtius Maximus F@H Woof! MeowMUN 00:37, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

No worries :) → Spang ☃☃☃ 00:48, 30 Oct 2008

Feature queue

Thanks for the tip. – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 01:36 Nov 01, 2008

Gadget thingy

Hi Spang. I keep forgetting to leave this message... the Gadgets Extension you asked for some time ago is now live on Uncyc. Regards -- sannse (talk) 14:25, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Sitenotice?

Hey Spang, why'd you get rid of that banner just now? Wikipedia still has their thingy up, so I kinda feel like we should have something at the top of Uncyc, too... - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 02:56, Nov 25

Thought wikipedia had taken theirs down because I forgot that I blocked their sitenotice before. Feel free to put it back up. Though it is pretty ugly. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:38, 26 Nov 2008

UnNews main page

Something very bizarre is happening there. Can you take a look? Thanks. ~ 11:55, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

I took a look, but I don't see it... → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:18, 03 Dec 2008

It's the Spang syndrome. Post anything on Spang's talk page, and the thing sorts itself all by its own, out of sheer fright. ~ Mordillo where is my RAT'S COCK? 08:31, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

have a ninjastar

Happy Hanukkah

PARTY LIKE IT'S 5769

if you're not Jewish, party anyway

Happy Hanukkah from Rabbi Techno
NOW START DRINKING

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Merry Christmas

Bonner would like to wish you a Merry Christgame And a happy New Game P.S, You just lost the game (Bonner) (Talk)

A FESTIVUS FOR THE RESTOFUS!

	Happy Festivus, from The Led Balloon and Jerry Stiller. Put up your Festivus Pole, air your grievances, and prepare for the feats of strength, for festivus cannot continue until I am pinned! Oh, and merry Christmas if you're into that sort of thing.
	It's a Festivus miracle!

- P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 20:33, Dec 21

Happy Holidays from all of us at SysRq Waste Disposal and Grinder Co.

Happy Giftmas. ~Sissie

sirsysrq @ 23:45 Dec 21

Here's Your Christmas Tree

Merry Christmas 2008 From Sawblade5

Here's a Potato Christmas Tree For You!
Caution the Grue protecting this tree!

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----Pleb- Sawblade5 ^{( yell | FAQ | I did this )} 08:47, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

About Sex and The Intercourse Article you redirected

Hi, I hope you can reconsider the redirect because they have their own satirical meanings. I spent quite 2 days in doing them both up as such. - Red1 05:29, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh sorry.. it is still there! I mixed up mine with the leading caps one. Mine is sexual intercourse. So i wonder if we can redirect the diff caps to this? - Red1 05:37, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Never mind, i think i will redirect myself after i found out from the chronology that your were not changing anything. - Red1 05:40, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Uh... glad I could help! → Spang ☃☃☃ 20:20, 01 Jan 2009

Spangalicious

Hya Spang, can you check that {{2008Top10}} is OK code wise? Also, if you can take a look on the top 2007, something funny happened with those templates. Thanks. ~ 14:29, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Looks ok to me, I think... And I saw the other one not working, but now it is. I blame wikia. → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:14, 25 Jan 2009

I blame TOR. Thanks! ~ 23:00, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Queue

Hya,

I think there's something wrong with the queue or else I can't purge my cache :). The queue itself looks fine, but the updated article isn't showing on the main page. Can you take a look? ~ 12:13, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Probably because you numbered the Top 10 list wrongly :P. → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:57, 05 Feb 2009

Damn :) Yeah, I am planning to renumber it - I'm just swamped with "real" work. – Preceding unsigned comment added by Mordillo (talk • contribs)

Tee hee. :P → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:25, 06 Feb 2009

VFD for Template:Pokemonwarning

I have been watching the UN:VFD for Template:Pokemonwarning and it appears to be a majority vote for deletion. They mention your edits on the VFD, so I would think you make a vote (while you still can) on the deletion of the template there. Otherwise I'm afraid we lost one of the good In Joke Templates forever, in the recent rash of Template VFDs. --Pleb- Sawblade5 ^{( yell | FAQ | I did this )} 06:06, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Dunno if I cared about it that much, just noticed that most people were voting to delete based on a version that had the relevant jokes removed and random gifs added. I restored it to your userspace anyway, continue using it where you see fit :) → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:20, 08 Feb 2009

New Spang Meme

Inside. ~ 21:11, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm not so sure about that one. Also, the main page is correct - that article was featured one year ago (as part of the top 10), and also on the 6th of November 2007. It'll do the same for all the other top 10 features last year. I could probably fix it, but I'm not sure I care enough :) → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:03, 09 Feb 2009

Oh hell, you're right - forgot about the top ten of last year. Well, so much for SPANG SUPPORT. ~ 22:09, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Any time! → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:12, 09 Feb 2009

Erk, something seems to be happening that I don't think should be happening

Hi Spang - the "create new VFH" and "create new pee review" boxes don't seem to be working - they're importing the text of the articles entered instead of the appropriate template tables. And it seems like when saved, the changes are made to the article proper as well. This lacks goodness - any ideas what might have caused it? --UU - natter 12:25, Feb 24

Wikia suck, is the answer you are looking for. They seem to have updated the inputbox extension to one that doesn't support the prefix= parameter for "create" type inputboxes. Complain to them about it. Might have another look later. → Spang ☃☃☃ 14:20, 24 Feb 2009

Rightyho, thanks. --UU - natter 14:23, Feb 24

Yeah, I went and complained about it, but it was already fixed, so now I look like a fool. A FOOL! Thanks for nothing! → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:06, 24 Feb 2009

Thanks Spang, much obliged. --UU - natter 09:17, Feb 25

Looking like a fool for complaining to Wikia? How is that even possible? -Sockpuppet of an unregistered user 09:22, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Private Eye

Thank you so kindly for setting the table for the article. Now I also have a reference point should I decide to get ambitious again and I can dood it myself!--    01:14, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome! → Spang ☃☃☃ 17:41, 02 Mar 2009

Animal "Catch All" categories

I've been doing some bot categorization to form some "catch all" categories. For example Category:Mammal Images CA is a catch all category, while Category:Mammal Images is a [edit: "whatnot/presort" category]. I think keeping the whatnot separate from the pre-sort was a good idea, the mammal images has over 2000 images, overwhelming the nonsubcategorized images.

Also, having the separate catchall category makes it easier to spot images that need proper subcating. --Mnb'z 08:09, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

The last thank you is never the least

I Told Her Thanks For Voting To Feature Private Eye But she looked at me like I was wearing orange in the St Patrick's Day parade. I wasn't sure if that was fog behind me or if my favorite place for take-out Chinese food had just went up in flames but I knew that I'd better make this quick either way. "You were great, kid" I told her but her facial expression never changed. She kicked off her heels and put on a pair of roller skates but she looked about as comfortable in them as a woodpecker in the petrified forest. She took one last drag off her cigarette, blew the smoke in my face, flicked the butt at my feet and rolled away into the night - leaving me standing there like a wide screen TV on layaway. I took another sniff of the air and now I was sure, Chang's Wok Inn was definitely on fire and it looked like it was going to be another night of hamburger helper and "Juggs" magazine..............................

The epic would still be stranded on VFH if it weren't for SPANG! A double thank-you is also in order for tabling the article. I'm already using your handy guide to write the next epic. It's still in raw construction mode but the research is done. Might you be available for questions should I venture outside my box of knowledge again? (Shhhh, your here to thank Spang, not mooch). Thanks so much for your help/vote!--    12:23, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Purim

Mad Mike "Moishe" Tyson does it, so you should too!

Yes - it's Purim already, so be like
Mike and eat some ears today!

It's the only time of year when being a Jew is fun!
Chag Purim Sameach from Rabbi Techno

---

OK, so you're not Jewish. Who cares? This is a great excuse to get drunk.

Undeletion Request

Could you please hack up Image:Sexy girls.jpg. Yes, I know Socky likes to spam it. However, I think the dead links look worse. --Mnb'z 07:06, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey look, I'm sorry for maybe using it a little bit too much. I wont spam it again, but please restore the image. -Sockpuppet of an unregistered user 15:59, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Hello

I've reuploaded the image, but before you freak out. Please, I promise not to spam the image anymore. If you want, I'll even change the image in my welcome messages. -Sockpuppet of an unregistered user 17:10, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

I hates spam, I do. I'll probably do the same the next time I see a Rouge the Bat image. And maybe I'll protect it next time too. → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:50, 12 Mar 2009

Help! Spang support required!

Please? :-) It would appear that someone (probably me) has broken things such that Template:Recently featured appears to not be appearing with the correct appearance. I noticed this yesterday, and figured that maybe things were lagging a bit, but it's still not changed. UnBooks:Travels Through the Tropics was the most recent when I wrote this. Maybe it's this new cache thing and we need to put a dummy parameter somewhere? Tis probably my general incompetence I'm sure. Anyway, I had a look, and have not been able to figure it out, so I was hoping you might be able to take a closer look? Thanks. MrN 03:49, Mar 14

Was probably the template caching thing. Should be fixed now. → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:48, 14 Mar 2009

Maybe, but it's still not changing for me on the actual template itself. Maybe it will later today. MrN 06:52, Mar 14

Turns out it was (also) a combination of a side effect of switching back to featuring every day, and a bug in the code which was sorting the articles by feature date alphabetically (1st, 10th, 2nd, etc). It's actually fixed now. → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:22, 14 Mar 2009

Spang support successful. Again. Thanks man. MrN 23:36, Mar 14

I saw you!

Yea, it's me again, begging for help... Looking at the Main page it appears that there is a problem with Template:FA.dpl.default ? That's the thing which shows previously featured articles right? Anyway, as you can see it's just a red link. Sorry to pester again, I will learn this stuff (I watch what you do to fix things) but I have no idea. Maybe there was no old feature? I can see Template:FA.dpl but I admit to having no idea what the default thing does. Hopefully you have a few mins... Thanks. MrN 00:36, Mar 19

Thanks, fixed it. The default thing comes up when the DPL query can't find the {{FA}} template on the page. In this case because someone had replaced it with a custom version. I've created the FA.dpl.default and made it so that if there's no FA it just guesses the feature date and ignores the featured revision, which is what it needs the FA template for. Could also have it just not show up if there's no FA template, if that might be better. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:39, 19 Mar 2009

Cool. I was watching your edits and I'm starting to learn... Yea, I'm not sure about what's best if there was no FA. Did I mention that you rock? I'm sure I did somewhere.  :-) MrN 01:51, Mar 19

No worries! If you want to know something, just ask. → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:56, 19 Mar 2009

Thanks!

Also do you ever archive? ~Orian57~ ~Talk~ 12:43 26 March 2009

I tried it once, but I didn't inhale. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:19, 27 Mar 2009

I was...

Starting to think that the joke was on me! I will fix the formatting, so it looks better. Thanks for doing whatever you did to fix the main page... MrN 01:52, Apr 1

It helps to know how it actually all works, I guess. → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:12, 01 Apr 2009

Hmm, it would appear that this and this got caught up in the flack when sorting out the main page? MrN 05:59, Apr 1

Fixed now. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:27, 02 Apr 2009

Oh the spectacle

Whenever an internet 10 car pile up occurs, you can't help but read and be entertained while a handful of people take it all deadly serious. Whenever it happens I'm always reminded of a line I once heard in a British documentary. I forget what the gist of the program was but they were filming scenes on a fairly large tourist boat heading up the Amazon. A section of the river is a known crocodile hangout and the ship's crew are tossing them butcher scraps - causing a feeding frenzy of crocs in the murky brown water. The narrator talks briefly about this "environmentally unfriendly" spectacle and ends with the line "....but the tourists love it and the birds pick up what's left". I always remember that when I see any form of social train wreck.--    10:00, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

It's like reality TV, except it's not on TV. And may or may not be real. → Spang ☃☃☃ 10:04, 02 Apr 2009

Oh Spang!

I have an HTML-over-my-head situation. I'm going to attempt to fix Uncyclopedia:Store but one item I'm unqualified to correct is the pages w/shopping cart. The Uncyc nav buttons are being pushed to the bottom of the article and creating the familiar massive white space of poor formatting. If you can fix one, I can probably go do the rest after seeing what you alter. Pretty please?--    00:39, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

That happens when there's an unmatched tag somewhere. In this case the div around all the "buy it now" buttons wasn't closed. Fix like so. Though that whole store thing is pretty useless anyway. → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:47, 06 Apr 2009

I think I'm getting smarter. I read your post and saw "tag problem" with div and, without looking at your helpful cheat sheet, went in and figured it out fairly quick. Tanks! Seriously though, I'm going to make this sucker look good. It's great HTML experience.--    12:48, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

To be fair, most things I know about html etc., I learned from doing stuff here. Learn away! → Spang ☃☃☃ 00:13, 08 Apr 2009

Just noticed

You have a tiny little notice up top that says to not leave voting thx templates here......only just noticed. It looks like a lot of other people didn't see it either! Well, if you want to look briefly at naked barbies for you vote, you may do so here.--    12:27, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Dearest Spangles:

This isn't really important or relevant to the wiki at all, but I've got a bit of formatting mystery on my hands that I'd like solved. It's this template, you see. People around here, they call it {{QVFD checked}}, or, {{QVFDc}} for short.

It's supposed to be in fucking monospace font, but here (where here = Firefox 3.0.8 on Mac OS X) it appears horribly misaligned. How the devil is this possible in monospace font? – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 20:55 Apr 08, 2009

It's probably your browser settings. Go to tools > options > content > fonts & colours > advanced, and make sure the font listed for "monospace" is actually a monospaced font. It sound like it would be obvious to actually use a monospace font there, but sometimes firefox forgets, or the system thinks it knows better. If it's not that, then I'm not sure what else it could be - it looks fine to me.

Also, a handy tip: use browserpool to check to see what websites look like on different systems/browsers with minimum fuss. Use the free test version, which says it gives you 10 tries, but it nicely resets that number every time you you quit and restart the program. → Spang ☃☃☃ 20:33, 09 Apr 2009

Thanks muchly for the explanation & the link; it seems that the font is indeed monospace, but it might be that the ASCII the template uses is somehow different... or maybe the spacing is... or... hell, I don't know, it's firefox on a Mac, something's bound to go wrong. I'll check out that browserpool thing, as it looks mad useful. – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 05:53 Apr 17, 2009

You are an hero!!!

You doesn't afraid of anything! You burned the rope and saved us all! Colin ALL YOUR BASEHeaney! Casa Bey Superfly Portfolio 02:58, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

You are an hero!!!

You doesn't afraid of anything! You burned the rope and saved us all! Colin ALL YOUR BASEHeaney! Casa Bey Superfly Portfolio 03:03, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

So much that I had to do it twice! Colin ALL YOUR BASEHeaney! Casa Bey Superfly Portfolio 16:13, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks I guess. Though you should probably look into using memes correctly :P → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:17, 29 Apr 2009

Hello Spang

I've been noticing how some VFH nominations fail to appear on VFH, or at least don't appear right away. I suspect that it has something to do with having more than 20 nominations at the same time. Could you look into this please? —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 17:14, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Which ones? Probably a caching thing. Try purging the page. → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:16, 29 Apr 2009

That's what I tried, repeatedly. It did appear eventually, but not because I purged it, it just seems to take some time. Maybe that DPL thing is just a bit slow at times. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 21:55, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Best bet is just to blame wikia. → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:16, 29 Apr 2009

Failed ones aren't disappearing now, either (there's one there that was failed 2.5 hours ago). It's like the world has gone crazy or sumpin'. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 22:36, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

I think it's probably some caching thing at wikia. Always blame wikia. → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:32, 01 May 2009

Ah. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 02:56, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

While I'm here...

We need SPANG SUPPORT!

Master Spang, it seems that the watch/unwatch gimick thingy stopped working after the latest mediawiki update. Can you take a look? ~ 16:57, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

What's not working about it? → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:02, 04 May 2009

It doesn't allow me to change status, it's just stuck.~ 21:06, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

It's working for me... what browser are you using? Any messages in the error log? → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:26, 04 May 2009

FF 3.0.10. Didn't find any specific messages to that one on the error console, only a couple regarding Oli's auto QVFD one. ~ 10:01, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Ah, but if one script is broken, it can sometimes break all the rest. Try taking it out and see if it works. → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:50, 05 May 2009

Ah! Got this very scary error now - Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Access to restricted URI denied" code: "1012" nsresult: "0x805303f4 (NS_ERROR_DOM_BAD_URI)" location: "http://en.uncyclopedia.co/w/index.php?title=User:Spang/autowatch.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s Line: 1"] ~ 22:00, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

I just realised it was because you had my autowatch sript in there too. I took it out, because mediawiki does that anyway now. I didn't realise anybody was still using it :P → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:05, 05 May 2009

Horray! success! While you're at it, is that the reason that I only see rollback when I'm actually in the history of the article but not in recent changes? ~ 22:18, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Probably. Maybe I'll fix that script later. Or maybe I won't. Who knows? → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:56, 06 May 2009

I'll pay you big bucks. I'll take out the garbage. I'll have your kids. ~ 09:51, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

well hello

Hello. I was told that you might help me here. Right here. I am planning to rewrite Thom Yorke in an apparent style of his own attitude. As there is in the Wiki article, I wish for an infobox of which to play with in the article. The kind of coding is thus:

{{Infobox musical artist | Name = Thom Yorke | Img = Thom Yorke.jpg | Img_capt = Thom Yorke in concert at [[Brixton]]. | Img_size = | Background = solo_singer | Birth_name = Thomas Edward Yorke | Born = {{birth date and age|1968|10|7|df=y}}<br>[[Wellingborough]], [[Northamptonshire]] | Instrument = [[Vocals]]<br>[[Guitar]]<br>[[Piano]]<br>[[Keyboards]]<br>[[Percussion]]<br>[[Bass guitar]] | Genre = [[Alternative rock]]<br>[[Electronic music|Electronic]] | Occupation = [[Musician]] | Years_active = 1991—present | Label = [[XL Records|XL]] | Associated_acts = [[Radiohead]], [[UNKLE]], [[Björk]] }}

But there seems to be no kind of infobox coding to be found on Uncyclopedia. Would you help me, please? ---kun "whisper sweet nothings into thine ear..." 14:49, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Steal that infobox template off wikipedia? Or just copy and adapt one of the infoboxes we do have. Also, I kinda like the Thom Yorke article. Articles "in the style of the subject" are quite overdone, and usually way too obvious... → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:14, 11 May 2009

well, fine. i wanted an excuse not to contribute anything here anyway. bye. ---kun "whisper sweet nothings into thine ear..." 10:28, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Aw, there's still plenty other things for you to do! If you really want to do it, go for it. Maybe write it as an autobiography and have it as a separate article? Best of both worlds! → Spang ☃☃☃ 14:12, 11 May 2009

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. i've already stated what i'm going to do and my depression protocol insists that i stick by it because people in this condition are literally impossible to move from their argument and they'll go on and on and on and on about how they are right in order to impress their despondence all the more. you know what i'm going to do, miss? i'm going to write the article in my userspace, deny anyone from moving it, and put in very clear letters at the top of the talk page, when complete, a very large rude word followed by your name. i'm the generation's streamliner and i'm going to be here all night. ---kun "whisper sweet nothings into thine ear..." 22:14, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

If I may butt in, but I have done quite a bit of work on some infobox templates. Check out the one on smartass. I can adapt it for you... Let me know. =) ~Formerly Annoying Crap 14:57, 11 May 2009

thank you message sent (where applicable). ---kun "whisper sweet nothings into thine ear..." 22:14, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I got Template:Infobox musical artist to the right specifications, more or less. Could you please took at it and tell me why it's not wrapping the way wiki tables normally do? --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 05:08, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind. Sorted. Have fun never archiving your talk page. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 05:18, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

{{Title}} is officially borked

Anything you can do about it? ~ 21:26, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Working for me. Any specific pages it's broken on? → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:04, 14 May 2009

All for me. Why is that I always have those bizarre errors that no one else has?! Is that an antisemitic issue?!?! ~ 07:49, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Probably. Any errors in the error log? → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:24, 14 May 2009

Auto-Generated Categories?

It appears that Category:Pages with too many expensive parser function calls Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded are auto-generating. The first one only contains Vandalism/example on wheels!/Archive 07, and the 2nd Captain Oblivious &Making up Oscar Wilde quotes, both {{Q}} -spam articles. Does that have something to do with the wiki upgrade.? --Mnb'z 03:03, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Show/Hide

Socky told me you were the one to answer my question. Do you know if it's possible to change the words on the [show] [hide] buttons, or make an expand thing with chosen words or something along those lines? Don Puttano cHeDDs 16:44,18May,2009

Maybe it'll help if I'm more specific. I'm gonna write an article on Homestar Runner. I wanna give the option to [view intro], causing the intro to become visible, or [come on in], causing it to stay hidden. Go to if you are unfamiliar with it. Don Puttano cHeDDs 01:31,19May,2009

Please respond as soon as possible. I really want to get a start on this article and this advice would be a big help. Don Puttano cHeDDs 02:58,20May,2009

Sorry, not possible. If want, you can learn Javascript and change the function that creates the show/hide links to allow custom text in a safe way. Other than that, there's no way to do what you want. → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:01, 20 May 2009

Thanks & questions

Thanks for support, first of all. Then:

• randomness seems to defeat benefit 1
• of course it's all the same to me who edits the portals but there could be SOME supervising, so that at least accidentally typo-ridden stuff is left out. OK, I'm the father of the bastard, so I guess I should take care of policing myself. People usually listen to what they're told. Sometimes. Seldom? Come on, it's gotta be more often than "never!"
• one banner? please heggsblain. -- Style  Guide 05:57, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Right, now I got you about the "one banner" thingy. Would you only leave the "All"-category as it is? I thought it would be necessary to leave the original pages of the categories as they are, and links to them as well. Or is it enough to have the link to the original category page on the portal page? -- Style  Guide 06:12, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I meant as in a random selection of articles from a certain category, or ones that have been hand picked, so there's no need to update too often. Also, I don't think they need any more supervision than a normal wiki page. No page need an "owner", just as many people interested in editing it as possible. It's what the talk page is for.

And if there was, say, a science portal, there would be no need for the science category link, so it could be swapped right out, as a category link isn't that useful. And then maybe on the science portal banner or whatever there could be a link to the category for "all science articles", next to some categories for more specific science subjects. If you want to make one, don't wait for someone to say it's ok, just go for it! Copy the equivalent wikipedia portal (there's thousands to choose from) and go from there. As long as you focus on content, and not the colours of the boxes and/or the layout and stuff like that. → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:08, 20 May 2009

• basically I agree
• the portals I tried won't work straight off here because they have templates and stuff that don't exist here. But OK, I'll find a right one sooner or later. I'm not actually waiting for someone to tell me I can make one, just general lack of time and knowledge.
• "No need for category link" bit is clear
• I cannot help but want them to be hand-picked. That's my main reason for suggesting the whole thing. There could also be some guideline, like "if you promote something here, run a spellcheck at least".
• with an owner or without, it's for you in the Cabal to decide. If it goes without, there could be some rule like I suggested in the first place: don't change more often than every two days, once a week, or so. -- Style  Guide 15:52, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Got it - I'll have to swipe the templates as well. Only took me about two days to understand that. I'm already smarter than, er... dumb? -- Style  Guide 19:08, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Yup, if these portals work out, we'll probably need the templates anyway. Also, I only suggested the random thing in the case where there isn't anyone who wants to become an editor of the portal. Obviously someone picking the articles is better. And yeah, though "run a spell check at least" would go for any article. What I'm trying to say there is that all you need is common sense - no need to have a designated editor or protecting the pages or anything like that. And there's no need for voting for what goes on the portal. Common sense should be enough. If something goes wrong, it can always be reverted! Also, there is no Cabal. → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:34, 20 May 2009

"Should" being the catch. But OK, I agree. I tried making sense of the Wikipedia portals but it's too much for a beginner, and there are too many links upon links upon links. But I'm starting with Mordillo's user page copy now. -- Style  Guide 05:23, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

You should archive the current version of Last person to edit wins and start a new one

If it gets any larger, it could lag a Cray supercomputer. S-984 17:26, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Coincidentally, the same goes for your talkpage, Spang. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 01:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Either way, I figure not archiving keep out the weak ones. This way you need to have a real need to leave a comment if you have to wait till it's all loaded to do it. And nobody ever said you couldn't blank last edit, the winning edit just has to be the last one. To that specific page. So archiving wouldn't work. That's what a history is for, surely. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:08, 25 May 2009

"a real need to leave a comment" That sounds kinda pathetic. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 01:14, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

You look kinda pathetic. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:16, 25 May 2009

What the fuck? —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 01:19, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

What the YOUR MOM! → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:30, 25 May 2009

FU Spang! Why do you always involve my mom in this sorta thing? Keep her out of it! —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 01:40, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I bet a future user will name himself FUSpang. XD. S-984 22:30, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Science portal next to ready

In a couple of days it should be ready to run, just needs some polishing, better (and more) quotes and one idea more. If you come up with something feel free to help: User:Multiliteralist/Science portal. -- Style  Guide 17:38, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Awesome. If it looks mostly finished, I'll add it to the main page. As soon as I can be bothered. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:18, 25 May 2009

Doesn't yet, I'll let you know. It has clear emptiness on it still. -- Style  Guide 04:41, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

The Game Portal is also almost done (or good enough). Although it could stand some cosmetic fixes, and I'm not sure if the cabal approves of the "Promotion zone" setup, i.e. its a free-for-all right now. --Mnb'z 05:20, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

It's a bit overwhelming in my view, I'd remove some content (not the sections, but the amount of articles you have on each sections). Also, the "featured X of the moment" sounds a bit like ED, if you ever seen their main page. How about just calling it - "Featured X"? ~ 07:29, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I did some final clean-up and moved it to mainspace. Its still a bit overwhelming, but I'm trying for more of a "data dump" setup. Also, I left the sub-pages in userspace for right now (mainly because I'm lazy.) --Mnb'z 01:58, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Any idea why VFH/Failed gave up after the 13st?

Yeah. That thing in the header. I probably should've put more of it down here. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 20:41, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't see anything wrong with it... → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:49, 25 May 2009

You need to refresh, Modus! —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 22:51, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

It's fine. Now. It was wrong before. Don't make me dig out my WABAC machine! Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 02:00, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for voting for my article, Dear Diary. And do rest assured that I am not a violent or vindictive person, and that voting no would have in no way resulted in me abusing my administrative powers to crush you like a grape. ~ Todd Lyons

...plus, any old excuse to make this talk page even longer... :) --T. (talk) 11:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

That thing in that place isn't working rightly

Your magic program is forgetting pages (see here). Have the walls of reality crumbled? Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 06:24, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Almost. I think I fixed it just in time. I changed it about slightly, but you still do exactly the same thing to make it work.

It was probably because the number of articles featured using the new system has gone over 500 (actually 615 now), so started ignoring some random articles. And just noticed we have 1,105 featured articles now. That's pretty impressive. → Spang ☃☃☃ 18:09, 01 Jun 2009

"Impressive"? I think you mean "Worst". Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 20:10, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Modus said "Worst", LOL. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 20:28, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Socky

Is fucking with You know what. Saberwolf116 14:06, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Nobody cares. → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:15, 06 Jun 2009

Indeed. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 21:39, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

SPANG SUPPORT

Go here, answer questions, get free booze and a shoe shine. ~ 15:26, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

If I can think of something to say on the subject, I might say something at some point! → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:57, 12 Jun 2009

VFH Queue

I had an Internet connection drop during my update of the queue today, and it borked Uncyclopedia:VFH/queue. The title/link to C-3PO is missing. I'm not sure what the problem is there, because my other edits to the article and to Template:Featuredarticle/queue saved properly. Would you have a look? Much obliged. --T. (talk) 12:44, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

It looks fine now. BTW Spang, as long as we're ordering support - I've noticed that if I look over the main page while not being logged in, I get something completely different then when I'm logged it. Seems like the unlogged version it two days behind the logged one. I've cleared the cache and tried both IE and FF and still....got any idea? ~ 13:42, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Seems fine now, and looks like everything saved ok. The title probably wouldn't appear until the FA template is actually on the article and saved, so it might be that.

As for the Main Page, I've never noticed that, and it seems fine to me. Is it still two days behind for you? Could be some crazy wikia caching thing, but I've not come across this before. Do the random DYKs change at all? Maybe ask sannse if wikia could be ruining everything for everyone as usual. Other than that if purging and clearing cache doesn't work dunno what you can do. At least it's not exactly major, even if IPs are 2 features behind, they're still getting the same content as everyone else, just a little late! → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:57, 12 Jun 2009

Signature

I get the feeling that you dislike my signature. mutter mutter.... Already have your 15 pieces of flair... mutter mutter... can never have enough flair.... mutter Thanks for your feedback!

Read UN:SIG. Rules are there for a reason. Quite a few people have expanding sigs disabled by default you see. Also 2 demerit points for not getting the reference to office space. Watch it. → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:06, 26 Jun 2009

mutter mutter... didn't even know the rules were there until today... mutter mutter... -2 demerit points for not getting the reference to Gaspode the wonder dog in Discworld... mutter mutter POTR not even going to sign properly

+2 points for reminding me to buy the latest discworld. → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:33, 26 Jun 2009

+2 points as you didn't bring it down to within the 55 Xs. (But of course I'll be good and do it.) Have you read "Nation"? Pup

Ah, I thought nation was discworld, apparently not! I shall buy and read it forthwith. → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:58, 26 Jun 2009

Same author - different feel, but still good. Actually I have a really dry technical question for you. At the moment my signature has a timestamp attached to the end of it which is (deliberately) slightly out of kilter. Issue is that to put it slightly out of kilter I've had to to a little math functions with it, and it's not something that I've managed to work out how to do in Wikia. Is there a reference that you could steer me to?Pup Tut tut - forgot to sign last time....

Am reading it now. And for maths functions, try reading up this. → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:47, 07 Jul 2009

Thanks, but not quite what I had in mind... I've scrapped the idea slightly at the moment, but thinking about it what I'm looking for actually involves if... then... type stuff, or converting time into a a value, altering the value, and then converting it back into a time function. I think it may be either a little beyond MediaWiki or beyond my ability to find the info I require... so far.

By the way I nagged Orian to archive and he told me to look at your talk page, so I guess I should really explain that in Australia our microweb is delivered by Owls, and large pages like this is defined as unnecessary cruelty to animals. In order to ensure there is only the necessary levels of torture, could you archive a chunk of your talk page?

You mean like {{#time: j F Y | + 2 days }} which gives 10 December 2024, exactly 2 days in the future? Something like that? Or something completely different? Also this page is definitely necessary cruelty. For sure. → Spang ☃☃☃ 11:06, 09 Jul 2009

Unused image?

I found this in Special:UnusedFiles. Is it supposed to be linked somewhere? MadMax 19:16, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

It was linked on my userpage, until it changed. You could delete it or add {{notorphan}}, either way if fine with me. If I even need it again I could always undelete it :) → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:42, 07 Jul 2009

Query about the rules for VFH that you wrote and plastered up on the wall and they are really good but I would just like to know...

Howdy,

Really stupid question, but I'm good at them. I have an article that is VFH. I'd like to make changes to the article however the VFH has not been completed. I'm hesitant to do this as people have voted on the article as it stands, and if I were to change it prior to the completion of voting then it would kind of mess up the concept of the votes as they are.

1. Even though it's not stated that I cannot do it, can I make significant changes to an article that is already in the VFH process?
2. First learn Question number 1.

Pup 02:42, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I'd say it fine as long as it's not changing the reasons people voted for it. For Vitiligo, people voted for the going-white joke, and I can't see anyone complaining if the text is made funny too. And it has the added benefits of cancelling out the against votes. Though I don't understand the poor formatting one. I'm all for making it an actual article too, that people will actually want to try and read! → Spang ☃☃☃ 11:17, 09 Jul 2009

Hi there, due to some of the feedback around this article there have been a number of amendments made. Given that it was significantly due to your feedback that this has been changed, I felt it best to thank you for this, because that also give me an excuse to subtly whore my works. Pup 06:57, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

New VFD Template

Okay Spang. I found the image you were looking for to be used in the new VFD template. I've placed it in the code and it is now viewable on the sandbox, so you can finally replace the old template with the new one. 15:18, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Heh, awesome. Have copied it over now. → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:18, 09 Jul 2009

Beating an owl over the head with a large rubber mallet

Ok, the ashes are on and Torchwood series three is now available to download in full, which means that you'll probably have enough to do as it is, BUT, is there any way to:

1. Hide the categories at the bottom of the page. I have thinking back that should be categorised, but because it's supposed to be reverse order the cats shouldn't be seen.
2. Move the nav bar to the right of the screen?

And the answer to both of these is probably "yes", but I was more looking into what do I need in order to do this.

And did you enjoy Nation? A bit different from the Discworld, but it reminded of his "Strata" and "Dark side of the sun" days. Almost like he's doing something completely new even though he has been writing for a million years. Pup 22:03, 10 July 2009 (UTC) (edit #989)

There is, but it involves adding stuff to the reskin thing to do that. Which involves effort. Also, still making by way through Nation. Have been at work a lot, so it's been slow so far for reading! → Spang ☃☃☃ 15:33, 11 Jul 2009

White stuff

Hey Spang, could you add "<big><big><big><big>" to that spam whitelist? —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 13:59, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

As far as I know, the spam whitelist only applies to URLs. I might be wrong though. → Spang ☃☃☃ 15:06, 11 Jul 2009

I wouldn't know, but apparently when you want to use four <big>'s, that spam filter goes off. Also, since "fuck" is mentioned on that page, I'd think it's not only for web addresses. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 15:20, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

I think that's a different spam thing. The spam whitelist I edited is there to counter this specific blacklist, which only acts on external links. → Spang ☃☃☃ 15:34, 11 Jul 2009

Hmm. Okay. The big tag thing can be quite annoying though. Wikia sucks, I guess. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 20:20, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Using several big tags in a row is pretty stupid anyway. <font size="40px"> Is a lot easier to write and use. → Spang ☃☃☃ 20:39, 11 Jul 2009

No one remembers how to do that, though. To do the font size thing I have to remember 2 different words, equals signs, and quotes. With <big> I just go, oh, I want bigger text, I should add tags with the word "big" in them. - T.L.B. WotM, UotM, FPrize, AotM, ANotM, PLS, UN:HS, GUN 20:46, Jul 11

I know about the font size= thing, but that doesn't work in my version of IE. Of course there's also span style="font-size=", (which does work on IE) which is just tiresome to write down every time. Additionally, a lot of people just use big tags instead of font or span, and so the use of multiple bigs is quite likely when some random user wants to make text larger, resulting in the spam filter being quite annoying at times. And in conclusion, again, Wikia sucks. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 00:12, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

w3c note: <font size="40px"> and <big> are both deprecated in XHTML 1.0 strict. As we're all supposed to be making love with CSS now (as cascading style sheets are much more comfortable than silk) <span style="font-size:2em;"> (pick your own units) is the preferred technique now. On a side note, because you could be looking at printed text as well "em" is the unit that I've been advised to use as it is a printing notation not just an on-screen one. The reason for sticking to XHTML 1.0 strict - works on IE, Mozilla, opera, Chrome, Chrome OS (supposedly), safari, blah blah. The other thing is that it will continue to work (at least until XHTML 1.1 strict comes in play.) Pup 01:11, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Same problem as with the font thing, only worse. There's no way I'm going to remember the tag you just typed out. In fact, I've already forgotten it. - T.L.B. WotM, UotM, FPrize, AotM, ANotM, PLS, UN:HS, GUN 01:33, Jul 12

Ok, try {{big}}. Use like {{big|3|big text}} which gives big text. For the number just use the number of big tags you would have used, and add the text to be big in the second. Also, the deprecated tags will never stop being supported, no matter how much W3C like to complain about them. They're never going to break old web pages just for the sake of saying "you shouldn't use this tag, this one's much better". Also the font-size CSS tag doesn't support relative sizes of +2, +3 etc. so is actually not as good for this particular use. → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:38, 12 Jul 2009

<MARQUEE BEHAVIOR=ALTERNATE scrollamount=10>I don't know, does anybody support marquee anymore?</marquee>

Actually I've had it bashed into my head when we were studying html to always go w3c compliant - I've forgotten almost everything else about how to code in html but I remember that. --Pup 03:00, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Compliant sucks compared to useful. Also marquee works most places, but is not used in mediawiki. Shame! → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:48, 12 Jul 2009

Have we indented enough yet? Anyway, {{big}} has a minor issue - it will only work with whole numbers. This is what happens when I use 1.5.. Also was just trying to have something reduce to a fraction on an em and could only get to <small> sizing to work. Pup 04:36, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Well you couldn't add 1.5 big tags now could you? And can't you size something to be 0.5em? Or 50%? → Spang ☃☃☃ 20:59, 12 Jul 2009

<span style="font-size:1.2em;">

<span style="font-size:1.4em;">

Which is how I've been able to increase my font size by changing margins, but in decreasing I've hit this.

<span style="font-size:50%;">

<span style="font-size:20%;">

<span style="font-size:8pt:">

<span style="font-size:4pt:">

<span style="font-size:0.7em;">

<span style="font-size:0.2em;">

Works wonders in my ie rendering, but I'm viewing this on Mozilla and everything has exactly the same size, which is the same as this. Ooops, forgot to sign. --Pup 22:11, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Looks fine to me. → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:37, 12 Jul 2009

What browsers have you tested it on? Pup 22:57, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

None, other than looking at it in firefox. → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:59, 12 Jul 2009

Have you got any user end CSS running. I'm using V3.0.11 - also have an ie tab plugin that I've used which shows it fine. Haven't tried it in IE proper or Opera, and I don't have any other browsers... I only use it for dramatic effect, which works as well when you take the font colo(u)r to #888 or #bbb, but I'm now really curious as to why I'm having this issue and I seem to be the only one... Pup 00:17, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

You'll have your minimum font size set to size 10 or something. See this. → Spang ☃☃☃ 00:32, 13 Jul 2009

It worked - yay! Pup t 15:37, 18/07/2009

Because you loves these questions so much

I've been trying to create a false "button" as a template that looks much like the bog standard save page and preview buttons that we have in the edit section. I've managed to get it to work so far that it looks like a button when viewed in Mozilla (see the example at the end of this), but it misses out on two major things, one being cross platform compatibility (which I know of 1 way to fix using little images of the corners instead of the current setup and doing this as a 3 X 3 table - ugly code) and the second which is the one bugging me more is the pseudo-class "hover". Now if I can't do the second I'm not going to stress too much about the first. Is there something that I could do to get this to do what I want it to do without too much to-do? Pup t 04:00, 21/07/2009

Like this? → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:49, 22 Jul 2009

Actually I wanted it to look a little something like

 

Which does what I want but of course the search option does not allow me to remove the full text search button. The other options all either take me to a full text search, or an edit of some description. The major difference being the mouse hover giving the yellow/orange highlights. There may be something in Metawiki that explains it but I haven't been able to find it, and as a:hover is a pseudo-class it doesn't seem to work in the wikimedia format. Pup t 00:34, 23/07/2009

You get the highlights on click, though! Hover attribute can't be set using inline CSS, the themed button is a form element and can't be copied exactly using CSS, for whatever reason. You could add a background image to make it look more like the actual button, but background images aren't allowed in MediaWiki. So. Fake button is the best you're going to get! → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:05, 23 Jul 2009

I had a thought. Given that I can't remove the button, would it be possible to hide the button. I've done a bit of playing around and come up with the following, which amazingly works as well as I could have liked, with minimal issues.

Still not perfect, but gives the appearance and response I was after. Just thought I'd let you know.

Also worked out how to do the equivalent of background image with relative positioning. Pup t 23:52, 27/07/2009

Spang?

Not you by any chance? -OptyC Sucks! CUN13:46, 1 Aug

Correct. Not me. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:41, 02 Aug 2009

My Sig

Thanx for correcting, but could you post on my talk page the next time I forget and go on a ruthless campaign to take over the world? zh/Singapore IS 4412:27 August 10

Maybe. Maybe not. → Spang ☃☃☃ 00:08, 22 Aug 2009

On archiving

We were talking in the UnSignpost Press Room, in the re-subscription sub-section about a few things. One of them being, the bots that usually deliver the paper for us often have problems delivering the paper to pages that already have a massive ammount of UnSignposts on them. So, our question is whether or not it would be ok for someone like me to actually archive some people's talk pages for them. I figure it's usually against rules to do so (and your page here is a testament to that), but would it be alright if it's for the good of our amazing paper? Woody On Fire! Talking Woody Stalking Woody 17:34, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Archiving someone else's talk page would be bad. Removing old signpost section would be ok probably. What exactly is the problem with the bot? Just that the pages are too large? Why not just set them to add a new section, then it never even has to load the full page. → Spang ☃☃☃ 00:08, 22 Aug 2009

I'm not sure exactly. I'm not a bot guy myself. But MrN said that those are the pages the bots are having troubles with. Do you think you could ask him about it? I know I'm trying to get you to go out of your way on this one, but I don't know how good it would be for me to be the middleman. I'm sure I would screw something up. So, would you be able to talk to him about it? Woody On Fire! Talking Woody Stalking Woody 05:03, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

I believe its because the longer pages take more time to load. If the page takes too long to load after the edit, the bot interprets it as a failure of the edit to be saved. Since the bots are normally set to retry an edit if an edit fails, it can result in multiple postings of the same edit. --Mn-z 05:24, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

In that case the bot is programmed poorly, because you don't need to ever load the page in order to add a new section to it. Also, I don't really care enough about it to go off and discover how the bot works in order to try and fix it. No offence. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:18, 23 Aug 2009

None taken. I'll just tell them to suck it up. Also, that they kind of suck a little bit. :) Woody On Fire! Talking Woody Stalking Woody 02:03, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: Banning Hype

According the the ban log, you blocked him for 18 hours 12 seconds. Is that a typo? It seems a bit long for a joke ban. --Mn-z 04:37, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Your face is a bit long for a joke ban. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:18, 23 Aug 2009

How Do I Transclude a template without transcluding the categories?

Is there a way to transclude a template while suppressing the transclusion of the categories? I thought I remembered seeing that somewhere. It would be helpful in suppressing recursive categorization (I.e. categories that contain themselves) due to templates in such categories. --Mn-z 15:56, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

You can do it with DPL if you need to, or change the original template so there's noinclude tags round the categories. → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:11, 03 Sep 2009

I vaguely remember that there was a "magic word" that would suppress the transclusion of categories. If there isn't one, how would I go about coding a template so that it won't transclude a category?

Well, basically, in pseudo code it would be:

if pagename = X, don't add Category:Y
else, add category:Y.

But how would I go about coding that? --Mn-z 05:19, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

You could have {{#dpl:include=Template:Page|reset=categories}} where you would normally just have the template code on the page you don't want to have the categories. The other way would be a bit heavy? {{#ifeq:{{PAGENAME}}|Page name|[[category:include if match]]|[[category:include if no match]]}} would maybe work. But is probably a bit much just to avoid a category for one page it's going to be on... → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:37, 04 Sep 2009

thanks. --Mn-z 05:42, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

It appears not to be working. For example, on Category:Mario if I wanted to suppress the recursive categorization of {{Mario}} would I change: {{Mario}}

to

{{#dpl:include=Template:Mario|reset=categories}}

on page Category:Mario ?

--Mn-z 06:05, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

In theory yes. Also I just remembered you can include the template in a choose tag with only one option to strip categories. At least you used to be able to, dunno if that works any more. → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:14, 04 Sep 2009

The choose tag isn't suppressing categories. Also, the {{#dpl:include=Template:Mario|reset=categories}} isn't working either. Its producing nothing, so I think there may be a typo in the code. --Mn-z 06:27, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Reskin 101

Hya Spang, I'd like to revive the reskinning tradition. Is there anything more to it than copying the code to the main page? Playing around with CSS? Give me a few tips? Thanks. ~ 11:38, September 6, 2009 (UTC)

Not really, you only need to mess around with CSS if you want to change the colour or position of anything outside the content area. → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:16, 09 Sep 2009

I hope you can help!

I copied this from RAHB's talk page. DAP Dame Pleb Com. Miley Spears (talk) 21:43, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

You probably know the Brooke Shields article was featured a couple days ago. But now where it says "Recently featured" on the front page it's not even listed. Is there a problem or is there something I should do? Thanks. CUN Cpt.Brooke Shields Miley Spears (talk) 00:58, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Spang knows more about the Main Page code than anyone, if there's an issue I'd ask him or post something on the main page talk. Recently Featured is some mish-mash of coding that he frequently has to deal with. Naturally, I'm all for increasing his workload. -Image:Dildoriken.gifRAHBImage:Dildoriken.gif 20:06, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Should be fixed now. Although next time the recently featured goes over the start of the month (i.e. 28th - 3rd) they'll show in the wrong order. But they'll all be there. Will try to fix it at some point but no guarantees! → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:28, 09 Sep 2009

Miley Spears has awarded you a cookie! Now go play in traffic.

I promised you a cookie if you fixed it, so here it is! Enjoy! And I know you said on my talk page you wanted a real cookie. Fine. Just give me your real name, real address, and real credit card information and I'll send you a real one. :P DAP Dame Pleb Com. Miley Spears (talk) 02:38, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Quick thought

We were discussing earlier the possibility of a button that reacted when hover and when clicked. At the time we gave up - well, you gave up, and I cheated and got the button in POOF - but I've just been thinking a little more about this. If we were to use class sighidden that works on a hover basis. Add to this a false button created by two images on either side as button end, a one cell table that has border top and bottom only and background the right colour, and positional images to give a change when hover... long story short it is possible to create a template for a button that doesn't have the issues that we came across before. Pup t 00:05, 24/09/2009

On CC-BY-NC-SA and ads

How far does the cc-by-nc-sa limit ad supported hosting? The relevant sentence (section 4, sub section C, 1st sentence) for this issue says:

You may not exercise any of the rights granted to You in Section 3 above in any manner that is primarily intended for or directed toward commercial advantage or private monetary compensation.

My belief that at least some ad supported hosting is allowed (i.e. when the uploader doesn't profit from the ads) is based on the word "primarily". Since that word is used, there must be toleration for some manner of incidental (i.e. not primary intent) "commercial advantage or private monetary compensation".

In my opinion, if the uploader is significantly profiting from the ads, as in some forks the wiki for the ad revenue, then it would be violate the noncommercial clause. However, if uploaded by someone onto an ad supported format who makes no money on such ads, then it would be legal. Here, I'm talking about geocities, web forums, myspace, et cetera. Also, I'm assuming proper attribution, licensing and whatnot in both examples.

It could be argued that Wikia's wikis are a special case, as Wikia controls the content more than a webpage hoster like geocites. Would you say geocites hosting is also a gray area?

The basic issue I have is this: if the cc-by-nc-sa license forbids all ad supported hosting, then it would prevent the copying of our articles on most of the internet. Almost all free hosting sites, be they forums, traditional webpage hosters, social networking sites, or wikis, have ads. Effectively, it could limit the scope of the legal copying of our articles to a small fraction of that of cc-by-sa material. --Mn-z 05:43, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

hey

Is it time to archive FFS? --Docile hippopotamus 07:44, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

If you want it to be. → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:06, 27 Oct 2009

background-image

Hello, sir. Modusoperandi suggests that you might be able to help me get a .GIF file to tile as the background-image of an HTML table (test document)(problem statement). Please tell me if you know the secret to this. Spıke ¬  13:04 27-Oct-09

I know the secret in that I know it can't be done. See the forum reply! → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:06, 27 Oct 2009

Secret is out now. What a relief! could've spent a couple more hours fiddling with this to no avail. Thanks. Spıke ¬  23:25 27-Oct-09

So you're the best-loved Uncyclopedia of all time?

I read somewhere that you are the best-loved Uncyclopedian of all time, but I don't think we've ever talked. As I am a priest in the Church of Uncyclopedia, I need to know: are you the best-loved because you're full of Sophia? Or because Sophia is full of you? Or because you're full of potatoness? Are you especially close to Goddess or something? Also which is better for potatoes, butter or sour cream? Thanks for your guidance. Oh, and also if you have any sins you'd like to confess, feel free to come to my confessional.  Father WHY??? (confessions)  15:46, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

To all of your questions, yes, and then some. And butter is definitely best, for a potato in its regular potato form, like a baked potato. When in the form of chips (British chips), sour cream is the way to go. → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:21, 27 Nov 2009

Why?

Why is the new QVFD script copying the text from the url instead of what the previous version did? —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 15:16, 28 November 2009

In what way is it copying the text from the url, and what did the old one do that the new one doesn't? → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:46, 28 Nov 2009

I see what you meant, there was just one too many escape functions in there. Should be fixed now. → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:12, 28 Nov 2009

Ah. Okay, thanks. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 00:04, 29 November 2009

Three things

1. I noticed the BP script signs with --~~~~ while I (and you and Socky) sign with ~~~~. Are we doomed to have extra --s in front of our signatures?
2. The scripts grey the screen out and then require you to click "close" before you can fly away like the superhero you are. Is there away way the box can close by itself or simply not block out everything behind it?
3. Can you archive your talk page? Thanks. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 19:36, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

1. Yeah, I just did the default sig to avoid having to add any options into it, and made it three tildes to stop people double date-stamping. I'll take off the extra -s, they're not really needed anyway. The alternative would be to add options into the script (bad idea), or just ignore the user's sigs and sign with some standard sig for everyone, which people wouldn't like.
2. I'll change it so it doesn't grey out the rest of the screen, but still stays open once finished, so you still get the link to the page and can see any errors if there are any.
3. I'll think about it. You're welcome. → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:02, 29 Nov 2009

Huh. The QVFD script doesn't seem to be checking for dupes anymore. It also adds articles in a ← instead of a +. Why must you mess with perfection? There's also a minor bug with the BP script that allows you to list subpages (existent or not) but I don't think that's a serious issue. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 23:56, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Should be fixed now, it was getting confused between underscores and spaces. I put a ← because that fits in with all the other automated edit summaries. I changed it back to + though. → Spang ☃☃☃ 00:46, 01 Dec 2009

You and your awesome scriptiness <3

Okay, first, sorry 'bout the thank-you template. Didn't see the little message about it at the top.

Second, and the real reason I came here: You win. The auto-Ban Patrol script is very helpful, much as most things are that automate and simplify boring tasks like reporting bannables. You've also touched up the QVFD script. At first I didn't use it because the small interface box that pops up was too annoying- difficult to close out of, and blocked access to anything else on the page. But now that you've undone the second problem, it's actually a lot better than before, interface-wise! Not having to actually load QVFD each time I add a page shaves a couple seconds off of each time I add a page to QVFD. So overall, thanks a bunch for your work on both of those scripts! --Andorin Kato 03:52, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome. Don't worry about the thanks template, it's just that the page is long enough without templates filling it up, so I like to keep it to actual messages only. :)

I just saw that the script was very outdated, and felt like rewriting it. And then that ban patrol involved doing a very similar thing. If you think of anything that could be added to it, feel free to ask. Same goes if you can think of anything else that might be cool to have scripted! → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:12, 02 Dec 2009

Sorry to butt in, but if I may assk a question. Is there an existing script that can help archive talk pages? I'm a noob compared to you so maybe you can adopt me? I dunno I just love coding crap and I'm pretty handy with the potatoes... Lemme know ;) ~Formerly Annoying Crap 05:46, 2 December 2009

It's probably possible, but there might need to be a standard way of naming archives, which I'm not sure there is. Unless it just asked you for the archive name each time, in which case it shouldn't be too hard to do. Might even be able to have it archive a single section at a time or a whole page. Though some places wouldn't want to remove certain sections, like the top part, while others would. So yeah, possible technically, but hard to work out what exactly it would do. → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:01, 03 Dec 2009

Um...

I'm not sure what you did, but my QVFD and Ban Patrol buttons aren't working for some reason. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 21:16, 3 December 2009

My bad. Fixed. That's what I get for editing without testing. Probably won't be messing with them much more, so you're probably safe from now on. → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:03, 03 Dec 2009

I'm pretty sure the scripts are working again, but there are these sites that considerably slow down my loading time and I never get to see the gadgets I've enabled in my preferences.

These are the sites:

• www.google-analytics.com
• pagead2.googlesyndication.com
• pixel.quantserve.com

I'm not sure what to make of it. What business does Google have with Uncyclopedia? And the "pagead" thing is just suspicious. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 23:46, 3 December 2009

No, those are unrelated. The first one is the google analytics tracking script, so wikia know who and how many people are looking at what. The second is the place where google ads are served from. The third is the tracking code for quantcast, which again tracks how many people are looking at uncyclopedia pages, and it also tries to categorise those people (and you) into advertising target groups. Which I believe it does by tracking your web actions across whatever websites use it. You can opt out of that though (recommended!). You can also opt out of google's tracking stuff.

But the best solution is to download adblock and blacklist those sites. If you're not using firefox or IE (I think there's an adblock for that), then you could block those domains in your hosts file (google it if you don't know what that means). It'll make the pages load faster and will have the added bonus of nobody tracking you (on sites that use these anyway). → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:04, 04 Dec 2009

I have their Javascript forbidden under NoScript. Do you think that's enough? Also, can you consider archiving your talk page? It's huge. =/ --Andorin Kato 02:07, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

But you must have javascript enabled on uncyclopedia.org, right? So surely their code will still run? Or does noscript block by domains within a page now too? It's been a long time since I've used it. If it can, then it's probably enough, but probably also overkill. AdBlock is enough for all but the most paranoid. Oh, and I'll think about it. → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:17, 04 Dec 2009

Yes, uncyclopedia.org, wikia.com and wikipedia.com are allowed. While I don't claim to be an expert by any means, I would think that the fact that quantserve and googleadservices have separate Javascript (as demonstrated by NoScript separately asking about each of these domains) would mean that denying those specific scripts means denying those ad trackers access to me. --Andorin Kato 02:21, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Actually, even with Javascript disabled, they can still track your usage--unless you wear tinfoil in your hat. King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court)  03:14, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Recently featured???

RAHB sent me where with my five questions--three questions--so I'm here. Right now on the Main Page under Recently featured, it looks like the entries are listed backwards; i.e., most recent last. At least I think that's backwards from the way it used to be, and wonder if this means more recently featured articles will go off the list before articles featured before that get off. Or something. (Wait, how many questions was that?)  Father WHY??? (confessions)  22:32, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

There is a logic to it, it's just that the logic is occasionally wrong. I could fix it, but that may involve breaking many other things, I'm not quite sure, because it's hard to remember which part of the feature thing is linked to which other bits at the moment. It might make more sense if you look at the dates each of those articles was featured - in order, the 30th, 29th, 28th, 26th, 2nd, 1st. It's just the closest way of sorting it so it matches the order they were featured in. It works fine, except for the changeover between months, and even then each article is still on there for 6 days or whatever, just not in the right order. I might fix it at some point, when I feel like making sure it won't affect other things is strange but minor ways. → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:30, 03 Dec 2009

I suppose as long as they stay on the list, I'll consider it a mystery of God. Thanks.  Father WHY??? (confessions)  00:37, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

BUTT POOP!!!!

Of course BUTT POOP/VFD isn't an article. It's supporting material for BUTT POOP (which is a template that's in the main space per UN:N). Didn't you see the slash in the title, man? It was all slashy. Ipod Nano 200gb Instructions/Page 3 isn't an article either but I don't see anyone deleting it, even though it was created by some noob and then abandoned. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 04:44, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Jesus Christ, man, do you never archive your talk page? Anyway, I want to "me-too" what Syndrome said. BUTT POOP/VFD is a satire of VFD votes: it compiles the worst reasons we've seen for voting "keep" on VFD, and reaches the absurd conclusion that a page as terrible as BUTT POOP could never be deleted. I think it's funny; Mnbvcxz thinks it's funny; Socky thinks it's funny. In conclusion: you've taken away our toys; may we have them back, please, daddy? pillow talk 05:26, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Per Hyperbole. --Mn-z 05:44, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

I guess you mean part 4? In any case, whoever that was was trying to add another page to the series. He put some effort into it. No harm done, VFD it if you want.

What it is, is a non-article supporting a non-article. I'll take your word there's a joke in there somewhere, but there's all of about 5 people who will get that joke and they've already all seen it. Good job. It's really not much more than a wiki-circle jerk of vanity. Yes, established uncyclopedians can make vanity too, and no, that doesn't make it ok. Nor funny.

Also, I broke your joke because it can be deleted. I'll put it back in someone's userspace if you'd like. → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:56, 04 Dec 2009

You vaped BUTT POOP! I didn't think you'd do it, but you did it! You're my hero. --Andorin Kato 06:03, Dec. 4, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, Spang, it's a circle-jerk. Have you ever been in a circle-jerk? It makes you spooge. In my measured opinion, the pros outweigh the cons. pillow talk 10:15, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Modus said: "Keep'd. Nominated while it was still userspace'd. If it was, say, shockporn, I would let it pass, then smack you for not putting it in QVFD instead. If you think this page is crap, bring it back here in a month. Not sooner." Uncyclopedia:Pages_for_deletion/archive195#BUTT_POOP --Mn-z 06:08, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

I was considering nominating it for deletion anyway, because I don't think the normal grace period for a failed nomination would apply in BUTT POOP's case. There was a discussion in IRC about it. --Andorin Kato 06:13, Dec. 4, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I saw that. What's the problem then? It's now in userspace, and shouldn't be VFD'd. Keep it there for as long as you like. Why not show it to your friends as an example of how funny you are! And it wasn't relisted on VFD before a month had passed. Not that I care about the technicalities of VFD rules, of course. Rule #1 of the site covers it pretty clearly. → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:27, 04 Dec 2009

Spang, this is why you are better than I ever could be. --UU - natter 09:07, Dec 4

I don't want to lose my sense of humor here, but I've always sort of thought that "Don't delete shit that established Uncyclopedians enjoy if it isn't doing any harm" was one of the unwritten rules of this site. pillow talk 10:13, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

And what if there are users who don't enjoy it? What if there are users who hate it and want it gone? --Andorin Kato 10:15, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Well, then, obviously, they can go fuck themselves. pillow talk 10:19, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

 For. Woody On Fire! Talking Woody Stalking Woody 12:49, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

I can't believe anybody hasn't said this yet. FU SPANG! Also,  Against. because I like Spang. Also also, in whose userspace is it now? —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 13:03, 4 December 2009

Never mind, I found it already! :D —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 13:41, 4 December 2009

And if I'm not mistaken, don't we have a system whereby we can vote on whether or not to keep articles? If 4 or 5 established users are known to like it, I think its safely beyond QVFD range. And its not an in-joke, its satirical commentary on the tendency of VFD voters to vote keep for weak reasons. --Mn-z 17:18, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Isn't the whole system of VFD an in-joke, though. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 18:34, 4 December 2009

Yeah, I think any joke about Uncyclopedia is by definition an in-joke. You know, like Euroipods Crusade. pillow talk 18:40, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

If you genuinely think that this is funny and deserves to exist as an article, you probably shouldn't be adding your terrible opinions to VFD anyway. Oh and for what it's worth, a bad article doesn't instantly make an in-joke. You can't instantly make an in-joke. → Spang ☃☃☃ 19:57, 04 Dec 2009

Maybe you're not familiar with the history of this in-joke, but it's been constructed over a period of more than a year, as Mnbvcxz and I collaborated a running commentary of how foolish some Uncyclopedians (at times, ourselves included) could be on VFD. It's really not the "slap some absurdly asinine shit up and call it an in-joke" thing you make it out to be. As for the Sojourn spinoff, well, as I was reading it, I was thinking "this is just too terrible to exist," and then I realized that I was laughing out loud. No accounting for taste, I guess, but I don't see why I shouldn't get a fucking vote on the issue. pillow talk 20:14, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I had a similar experience with A BUTT POOP!!!! wizard did it. I thought that it was just going too far, but then I realized that's what made it funny. The concept of BUTT POOP!!!! started in September 2008, and the article BUTT POOP!!!! is at that tender age where it's too old for QVFD but too young to be put on VFD again. Of course it's physically possible for some wayward admin to delete it. It might even lose at VFD. But the point is that in the absurd logic of Uncyclopedia, and in our hearts, it will forever be undeleteable. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 21:03, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

In which case, that's an in-joke between two or three users, not an Uncyclopedia In-Joke™ worthy of special consideration, as you seem to think. It belongs in userspace, and I have no problem with that. Or in your hearts, whatever.

Though again, the fact you laughed at that probably means you shouldn't be voting on anything. It's like a retarded kid was let loose with copy & paste and a handful of forced memes. It also undermines your argument that the "satirical" VFD vote is what makes it keepable - the "spin-offs" are unrelated to that joke, yet you want them kept too? Nah. → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:15, 04 Dec 2009

I count four users. Which is about 15% of the active Uncyclopedia population right now, as one user after another packs it up, many citing admins who feel that Rule #2 doesn't apply to them. But hey, if you don't think I'm qualified to vote on stuff, I won't. I mean, it's not like we regularly put a fucking template on the front page begging people to vote because no one gives a shit anymore. pillow talk 21:23, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

I've never put one of those templates up, and I don't like them. Quality votes over quantity, I say. Anyway, if you think that article is worth stopping voting for, that's your choice. → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:28, 04 Dec 2009

Actually Spang, I'd totally agree with you about quality votes, if not for the fact the ruling consensus of how an article effectively gets featured is more concentrated on the quantity of votes. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 21:34, 4 December 2009

It's not the article so much as your, to put it politely, patronizing attitude. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 21:32, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah. Apparently, Mnbvcxz's a retarded child, I'm unqualified to participate in the site, and the opinion of four of the most established and regular contributors to Uncyclopedia - three of whom have been voted UotM - doesn't mean jack shit. Hey, thanks for letting us know what you think of us, Spang. pillow talk 21:38, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

But you know the articles are bad. Intentionally so. To say you actually like them does not make sense without the bias of having started the "joke"; I mean, look at them, they do look like they where written by a retarded child. Doesn't mean I think whoever wrote it is one. But I don't judge an article based on who wrote it, I base that decision on what's actually in the article.

And don't think that I think your contributions aren't worthwhile - they generally are. But these ones aren't, and your reputation and other contributions don't somehow make these articles better. Everything I've said is related to these 3 or 4 articles alone. Write a good article - I know you're more than capable of it. → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:36, 04 Dec 2009

There is a difference between a random mess and stoopid yet funny. It is in-jokey but not to the point of vanity, anyone who is familiar with VFD will get the joke. --Mn-z 06:09, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

I don't get it. Even so, FU SPANG. -OptyC Sucks! CUN21:59, 8 Dec

Bring back butt poop!

Apparently. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 06:10, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, good idea. Or even better, not doing that. → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:21, 06 Dec 2009

From what I hear, it's become quite popular with the kids these days. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 06:27, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

But everyone knows kids are the worst. → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:29, 06 Dec 2009

I think until a person reaches 18 years of age, they shouldn't be allowed to poop. King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court)  06:57, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

But, Uncyclopedia is the worst. And the the way, BUTT POOP!!!! is always capitalized with 4 exclamation points. --Mn-z 19:41, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Dec. 5 feature

Hi:

Don't know if you're the person to go to, the featured article needs to be put up for Dec. 5. I couldn't figure out the IRC contact thing. I left a note on the main page talk, but I don't know if anyone will see it. 207.216.6.104 01:51, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Done! → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:49, 05 Dec 2009

The bloody feature template

says:

   /*id=20091207220111*/ SELECT page_id,page_len,page_is_redirect FROM `page` WHERE page_namespace = '10' AND page_title = 'Featuredarticle/queue' LIMIT 1 FOR UPDATE

from within function "LinkCache::addLinkObj". MySQL returned error "1213: Deadlock found when trying to get lock; try restarting transaction (10.8.2.48)".

It's become an absolute nightmare lately to edit it. Takes decades to load. Another issue, it seems to randomly jump days. So - I tell it "feature tomorrow" and it features two days after. Help? ~ 22:04, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

Which feature template? There's about a million! The "feature tomorrow" thing sounds like it could be a caching issue, which I'll say makes it wikia's fault.

We could always scrap what we've got and go to just making a separate page for each feature? Like featured article/6th dec or whatever. Would be a bit messier, but probably a lot easier to understand. I think the original idea was to keep everything in the one place, but that also makes it more complicated. Perhaps it's time to move on to the other way :s → Spang ☃☃☃ 00:12, 08 Dec 2009

It's the template you actually put the content for tomorrow. The one you just removed content from. I think it's a good solution but lately it's becoming really difficult. ~ 00:22, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, not sure why it's not working too well all of a sudden. From the message it looks like a caching thing, so wikia could have changed something that affects DPL. If it's a permanent change, might have to come up with a new way that will work properly. Will have a look at how easy it would be to switch to having a separate page for each feature.

It might jump days if you happen to click "feature tomorrow" just before 12, and then actually feature it after 12? Can't think of any other way it might feature the wrong day, unless I typed a wrong number somewhere. → Spang ☃☃☃ 00:36, 08 Dec 2009

I think it happens rather randomly. I usually feature before 12. ~ 00:40, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Odd. Ah well, just another reason to change it then. Sigh! → Spang ☃☃☃ 00:43, 08 Dec 2009

Is it worth while for TOR to take a look? ~ 15:57, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Well if it is something wrong with wikia's DPL caching thing, then they may well want to know. Though there's always the chance that the answer is "don't use DPL so much"! → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:46, 08 Dec 2009

Oh, but I worked out why it sometimes features ahead of the day you wanted it to. Remember when I said the {{FA}} template did special things? Well looks like you're saving that template on the article page before saving the queue page. That confuses it, because then when you save the queue, it sees there's already something featured today (it can't see that it's actually the article you want to be featured) and so features the next day. Which is why it says Don't add this to the article until this section has been saved. ;) So, save queue, THEN save FA template. But still, the slowness is enough to looks into changing some things about. → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:11, 08 Dec 2009

Got damn it! I knew it was my fault somehow. I'll do that and ask TOR to take a look at the cache issue. Thanks! ~ 10:47, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Its coming down to that your "pool" that can be picked by DPL (ie, pages that have {{FA}})), is just getting too large (its over 1200) and the DPL query to find a page from that set is timing out when trying to save the page. Maybe you need 2 template tags, one for "in the pool", and one for "used to be in the pool", both look the same, but only one is used by the dpl on the /queue page. --Uberfuzzy 22:21, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, that makes sense. But the only ones I can see that do that also use a title= so should be selecting just one, and then none if it doesn't use {{FA}}? Unless it does just get both whole sets and compares them, which would be weird, but must be it.

All the others just use linksto - the FA template on each article adds a link to a non-existant date sub-page of the FA template like Template:FA/11 December 2009|, and the DPL gets that linksto set, which should only ever be 1 article. I'll try and cut down the number DPLs wherever I see them anyway. There's a few templates that have several DPLs in them, which is probably bad. → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:02, 11 Dec 2009

Hello me again

You mind dropping over to my talk page? The poop discussion is ongoing and I'd like to make everyone equally miserable O_O. ~ 17:39, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Done, and hopefully I've done my bit to add to the misery. → Spang ☃☃☃ 00:33, 12 Dec 2009

Quite so. pillow talk 00:45, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Drama

Hi, I have just wrote an article that parodies the social phenomenon on Uncyclopedia known as Drama. Seeing as its become a bit of a problem in the past few months (years?) I thought it would be quite cool to make a section at the bottom of the article about other users' opinions of Drama. So I thought I'd invite you to write one, preferably humorous. It's no big deal if you don't want to, but if you are interested, you can come up with a quote and either leave it here on your talk page and I'll add it later, or you can go straight to the article itself and add it there. Any suggestions on improvement are also welcome. Thnx. --Matfen 00:45, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Article link here.

I try to avoiod drama (for the most part) :) If I think of anything, I'll add it. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:49, 31 Dec 2009

I need a bot

Hey. You know how you moved all that stuff from User:POTR to User:PuppyOnTheRadio? Well now a lot of my older edits are looking really stupid as it's trying to find a template that has been huffed. In some cases it's not a huge issue, but in others... Well, long story short, I was wondering if someone could cook up a bot that went through and found all references to User:POTR and changed them to User:PuppyOnTheRadio? Thanks. Pup

7 pages link to User:POTR itself, all of which are user talk pages, which shouldn't be updated just for updating links. I checked the sub-pages after I moved them and added redirects for those that had lots of links to them. I ignored the ones that only had a few links to them or updated them myself, so there's shouldn't actually be that many broken links left. → Spang ☃☃☃ 00:46, 31 Dec 2009

I started with a couple of the thank you templates. The few PEE reviews using templates Matfen815 picked up and fixed. I must have just looked at the first few pages that had half a dozen links and panicked. How do I get a list of all pages under that User space. I know there is a Special page to do it but cannot for the life of me remember. Pup

Yeah looks like I missed some, I added some more. You would usually use Special:PrefixIndex, but that only works for pages which exist, which these no longer do. Best just look at my move log to see what was moved, then use "what links here" on the non existent page to see what links there. If you just redirect it, the templates will still work. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:49, 31 Dec 2009

Actually, on an unrelated note, I was playing with User:PuppyOnTheRadio/Fuckwit - English translator to try and tidy it up a little. I can get this to work with javascripting so that the translated version comes up on the same screen, but of course I can't use Java here. Somebody suggested that Admins may be able to add Java to a page, similar to the way that they add CSS, so I wanted to check if that was true. The other thing was that I was also wondering if there was a way to make the first "text box" an input-able text box. My WikiMedia scouring suggests that it is potential with Wiki forms, but that there is particular add-ons that need to be added to the Uncyclopedia wiki to make it work. Or something. Long story short is that there is potentially formatting improvements that can be made to that page but I am either ignorant as to how they could be done or they simply cannot be done. And your lack of archiving makes this page too big for my phone. Pup

It would technically be possible, but you'd have to add the JS to the whole site rather than just one page. Which is a bit much for one joke. And there's not much chance of any extensions being installed, and I don't think there's any other way to do actual text boxes. I don't think it can reasonably done here. Though the page is fine as it is! And maybe you should get a bigger phone! → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:46, 31 Dec 2009

Figured as much. And I am a perfectionist, so of course I'm going to try every possibility to get it perfect. And I will invest in a notebook soon and do away with the awful phone browser. Pup

FU SPANG

Your user talk page is TOOOOOOO big. |Si Plebius Dato' Joe ang Aussie CUN|IC Kill | 02:47, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

cursing cursors

Hey. Slight stumbling block at the moment. I'm trying to get a customised cursor to come up on a particular hyperlink. Now I can change to a pointer/auto/resize etc but when I try <span style="cursor:url(http://www.javascriptkit.com/dhtmltutors/mycursor.cur), pointer">This thing</span> I get this:-

This thing

Yet when I try <span style="cursor: pointer">This thing</span> I get this:-

This thing

And when I try <span style="cursor: pointer, crosshair">This thing</span> I end up with:-

This thing

Now this suggests to me that I'm able to specify an alternate cursor, but I can't use secondary cursors if the first doesn't work, and I can't use URLs - and I've tried a couple of different file types to test this out.

So, I'm assuming I cannot use an image as a cursor with the exception of choosing one of the normal CSS2.1 available ones. If you knoiw of a work-around or can point out my mistake could you let me know? Pup

You're correct, and there's no workarounds for here that I can think of. → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:11, 02 Jan 2010

Okay. Secondary issue. I've just been playing with {{click-inline}} and noticed a funky issue. When viewed in FF it drop the linked "word" down below the actual image, yet it lines up fine in IE. In User:PuppyOnTheRadio/Sandbox I've extrapolated the code and added in fixed values as opposed to variables in the first example, but added a red border so you can see where the link covers. Are you able to work out a fix for this, as I can't begin to work out why it gives a different result to be honest. (Ignore the second example - that's my work-around for the previous issue - not prefect but it does what I want). Pup

PuppyOnTheRadio would like to bless
Spang
for your efforts in improving our world by
being available and able to help with stupid coding issues.
May you treasure your Puppy blessing always

Click-inline was a bit of a hack, but I've realised you don't need to use it any more as mediawiki now has a link option for images. Just use [[image:example.jpg|20px|link=article name or link here|caption]]. Though I've updated {{click}} and {{click-inline}} to use this way instead, so it should work fine now. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:24, 09 Jan 2010

Global warming

I appreciate the protection you put on this page. Your rationale says "Seeing as nearly every IP edit is reverted...)" and I've been the one reverting them. MrN9000 and I polished up the article to tell a story over several sections. He wanted a closer link to reality, for example, the bit about global warming occurring on other planets, and wanted it to be non-US-centric. The later sections of the article provide a section on disjointed "Other theories" and even a section "What you can do" with an actual invitation for drive-by listcruft. But when Mr. AnonIP inserts grues, Obama, or explicit advocacy in the first half, I've rolled it back with a minimum of thinking about whether it might fit elsewhere. Recently, Gunnanmon put the page under siege with his own "wackey" style, but I was able to guide him to the abandoned Climate change, which Pwnerator had volunteered in the Forum to rewrite but never did.

Separately, repeating a query I've just made to PuppyOnTheRadio: I am still playing with a local style sheet to control the appearance of articles. Is there any reason why background-color would fail to influence the background of <TEXTAREA> and <INPUT> items? Spıke ¬  12:20 8-Jan-10

You're welcome, and I think the drive-by listcruft we can probably survive without :) As for your stylesheet problem, textareas and input items have their own browser-specified background colours, which would override any general background-color. You'd have to specifically set them using something like textarea, input[type=text] { background-color: blue } or whatever colour you want. If you're already setting them specifically, not sure why it would be ignoring it. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:24, 09 Jan 2010

Thanks for the reply. If Mozilla has a built-in background, it surely doesn't override my style sheet, which is producing the desired results on several other sites but not at Uncyclopedia. I've sent an excerpt of the style sheet to Puppy and maybe he'll investigate further. Spıke ¬  01:32 9-Jan-10

Indeed, if it works at other places, it should work fine here, unless the skin here is affecting it in some way. Though the CSS example I gave above works to change the colours for me. You could link or send your style sheet to me if you want me to have a look? → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:37, 09 Jan 2010

You can see the relevant excerpt on User talk:PuppyOnTheRadio. Don't bother studying it; I only asked because you knew immediately a reason why my previous tweaking (with url()) didn't work. Thanks. Spıke ¬  01:48 9-Jan-10

It looks fine for me, and actually works perfectly here. There may be something else in your style sheet conflicting with that particular background colour. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:55, 09 Jan 2010

Another thing you might know offhand, and if you don't, it doesn't warrant investigation: Does the Wikia logon page now detect attempts to log on twice simultaneously? I tried this twice recently, once at home, once away, as my usual laptop was already logged on, and received results that were ambiguous--perhaps deliberately. Working now. Spıke ¬  02:42 9-Jan-10

Actually, Spike, I was going to say that I haven't had much of a chance to have a look at your CSS issue yet and to ask Spang, as he is usually my go-to guy. In regards to the above issue, I had worked out a hack to get around the click-inline issue that I was referring to but as wikimedia has added a link option to images it's a little redundant, so I appreciate the knowledge as it will make what I am working on at the moment a little easier, although I have to admit I may still end up using an <imagemap> for my concept that I am currently working on. I'm also thinking about expanding UN:HAX as there are a few more tricks that I have picked up along the way that I have used, although I have to confess I'm terrible at remembering to check for cross-browser support. Maybe we should generate our own genuine help pages for coding as a lot of the concepts that people have put into place are actually beyond what mediawiki allows. Speaking of which, I'm assuming yahoo has a seperate CSS which does the positioning, but I haven't been able to work it out. Can you give me an explanation? Pup

Yahoo does have its own css. Only certain specific pages do, if they really need it to make the article's concept work well. → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:45, 19 Jan 2010

Just now, I ripped out all the other contents of my userContent style sheet, and still couldn't get a background color for TEXTAREA and INPUT windows. I have played around in about:config but this doesn't explain why I can still get colored windows on other web sites. But I'll live. Other comments:

• UN:HAX is a neat resource, and do please expand it.
• Speaking of resources, clicking "Editing help" when editing an article used to take you to an excellent resource, probably the Wikipedia Monster page. Now it takes you to Help:HowTo, an overview that's better for noobies. The page I usually want--the reference for table formatting--is two clicks away. (A good solution: An Infobox at the top of Help:HowTo with direct links.)
• Speaking of cross-browser support, I recently got multi-column output on my user page by copying code from {{Reflist}}, but noted that there are three separate style rules needed to cover all browsers. If this becomes four some day, my page won't pick it up.
• Repeating, do you know anything about a new Wikia rule against multiple logons under the same name?

On my original issue in the Forum, I now have behind my Uncyclopedia titles via local style sheet. It would be cool to get this behind my signature but I've given up on this. I went to yahoo last night and don't claim to be able to explain anything about it! Spıke ¬  15:57 9-Jan-10

I take it you tried making the style rules !important? And you should be using the "uncyclopedia" skin, not "monobook" or any of the others. "uncyclopedia" is the only one that works properly. Just in case. Again, it works perfectly here, logged in and out. Oh yeah, does it work when you're logged out?

The "editing help" link has always gone to Help:Editing, except for about one week in 2006, when it linked to Help:Contents. I think it's better to go to the quick reference, rather than the massive detailed wikipedia one. Maybe you should just bookmark the big one :)

Those column rules are each browser's own implementation of the CSS3 columns draft. As CSS3 gets better support, browsers should all start supporting one common rule. Any more browsers that add support would likely just use the common name. You could also use a CSS trick like the one used to turn the TOC on VFH into 3 columns, but that lists each line horizontally first rather than vertically first.

You're can't get background images proper working in mediawiki by normal means, and any workarounds are unlikely to work for everyone. To get it working someone would have to add a style rule just for your sig to the global CSS, which is the start of a slippery slope. → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:45, 19 Jan 2010

I think you've nailed it--I came to Uncyclopedia from a year on Wikipedia and am still specifying the "Modern" skin, as I am doing on Wikipedia, where background colors are also failing to appear. I would rather retain the customization I've done so far than drop it for the sake of getting background colors to work. (On your other points: Yes, I specified !important; background images are not an issue, as I found out (I think from you) that MediaWiki traps and destroys the url() syntax. And yes, please join my Forum, where Mordillo has already mentioned you as someone who should review any changes so we don't break anything worse. Spıke ¬  23:53 19-Jan-10

Template:Q

And another thing, either of you: Last week, to get another web site to look good, I changed my local style sheet to force CODE items not to wrap (as I already did with PRE and TT). This had a drastic effect on Uncyclopedia, as items typeset with {{Q}} are declared to be CODE. If there were an infobox or illustration to the right, white space would be added to push the quote to the bottom of the infobox or illustration, to minimize the wrapping. Should quotes with {{Q}} be CODE? The use of CODE forces quotations into an alternate font, which is nice (into the constant-width code font on my system, which isn't nice), but quotes aren't code. (For how I would have coded it, see {{User:SPIKE/Q}}.)Spıke ¬  21:28 9-Jan-10 post-edited PS--Asked "Zim ulator" about {{Q}} (It's protected as it's used on his user page, which is protected-with-cascading.) He didn't know but Zana weighed in, mentioning {{Nicequote}}--created to solve the CODE problem--and other quoting methods from her Formatting guide. Spıke ¬  14:48 10-Jan-10 PS--Am now unwatching, but you can always raise me on my talk page. Spıke ¬  03:08 14-Jan-10

Yeah, it's not code, and shouldn't be. I see you started a forum on it, I'll look at that. → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:45, 19 Jan 2010

Question

Hi Spang. I left a message with Sannse about the possibility of blocking File:Example.jpg from being added to articles. This and a number of others used by the toolbar (e.g. Media:Example.ogg, == Headline text ==) are frequently added to articles by vandals and inexperienced users. She suggested you might be able to help with this? MadMax 00:43, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

I've done this, example text should be removed upon saving (should start working after a refresh, probably). Note that it'll only do it when the save button is clicked, not the preview or show changes button. Maybe I should change that. If anyone complains. → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:03, 19 Jan 2010

I'm editing this because...

...it makes me feel like I'm a part of something bigger than myself. sausage lol 03:51, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

...it gives me a warm sense of satisfaction not unlike that of peeing in a pair of dark pants.  ~ Avast Matey!!! Happytimes are here!*  (talk) (stalk) Π   ~  ~  16 Jan 2010 ~ 21:28 (UTC)

...it's my talk page. → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:46, 19 Jan 2010

...it's Spang's talk page. --UU - natter 10:13, Jan 26

Angry Asian Kid

This article now needs some protection, as AnonIP has reverted it to the version that several during VFD thought was cyber-bullying. Thanks. Spıke ¬  10:53 19-Jan-10 PS--Telugu language is another VFD save for which editors of the nominated version--some anonymous, some not--want to revert; they chronically read "Telugu" and think "Teletubbies." In this case, however, they are using the article's Discussion page and might take no for an answer. Spıke ¬  17:51 19-Jan-10

Looks like it's fine now. → Spang ☃☃☃ 18:07, 25 Jan 2010

Sorry Spang

I really didn't think anybody would be dumb enough to actually do it. -OptyC Sucks! CUN17:57, 20 Jan

You'd think. → Spang ☃☃☃ 18:06, 25 Jan 2010

Thank you

For making a complete ass out of me, after the whole discussion that went on the template. I guess curtsy is just too much to ask these days, as it is the 21.1 century. ~ 08:54, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

To be fair, he was right about the code being totally wrong, and it did look very dated. Monospace fonts for quotes just looks bad. The only reason to keep the old one was nostalgia. And I wouldn't call it a lack of courtesy, rather, not feeling like I have to ask permission to fix something that's wrong. Also, the dash looks way better and more modern than the tilde. → Spang ☃☃☃ 18:06, 25 Jan 2010

It's not a matter of asking permission. It's saying those things you just said on the forum just a second before you post the changes, rather than making me feel like a complete jackass. ~ 19:10, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Those things I wrote there were already discussed in the forum, I just didn't say them. Other people did. Would it have made that much of a difference for me to have repeated what they said before fixing it? → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:52, 25 Jan 2010

It would have made me feel like you're not completely overlooking what I said. So, we had two users that didn't like the way Q looks like. It's a template that is on virtually every article. Two users - that wasn't overwhelming support for the idea. Correct coding aside, I personally don't like the way it looks, and I saw similar reactions as well - so does it make this change then? Shall we just change the front page layout as well next time we have a couple of users that don't like the way it looks? But you know, putting all of that aside, this is simply a rant. The main point is - I'm trying very hard to backup other admins on every occasion. Note how Modus and myself refused to get involved with the butt poop incident (that just sounds bad to be honest....) simply because you took a stance. It would be nice to get the same from your side, or at least post a couple of lines on the forum letting me know that the template is incorrectly coded and you are changing it for that reason, rather than completely ignoring everything I said there. ~ 20:52, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, sorry you felt that way, please understand it wasn't intended that way. Fixing bad code is just what I do :) (also delete bad articles, but that's only when nobody else will do it). Plus I didn't ignore what you said, but it seems you thought it didn't need to be changed because it was a personal style choice of the people who mentioned the problems. I could see and agreed with their point that the code itself was bad so went ahead fixed that, and just updated the look in the process. That aside, the only thing that has actually changed looks-wise is the font, the light background colour and layout are the same. I can change it back to monospaced font if you really want, but there's no earthly reason why it should be monospaced, rather than in the default browser font. Plus it does look better one you're used to it. → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:23, 26 Jan 2010

Unable to do this myself, but how about having an extra option in there that is font-family and allow editors to determine this themselves but leave the default as monospace. It's a compromise that keeps both sides happy. Pup

It could be done, but don't worry, you'll see how wrong you are about monospace eventually. → Spang ☃☃☃ 00:57, 27 Jan 2010

I think the word you were looking for was courtesy by the way. And I don't think you look like an ass when the two of you are working toward the same end but with different perspectives. Pup

Finally remembering to ask you thing I've been meaning to ask for yonks

At least seven yonks, to be more precise. Anyway, I = hopeless with wiki JS and whatnot. I suspect there would be a nice, easy way to put my standard ICU/WiP deletion message ("want a copy back? Have a word on my talk page") in something or other so that I can just select it from a drop-down rather than copy/paste the bugger every time, but I don't know what that nice, easy way would be. Can you point me in the right direction please? (Yes, I know I should have asked this ages ago, or even worked it out for myself, I can just be really lazy about entirely the wrong things). --UU - natter 10:18, Jan 26

If you go into preferences, and then gadgets, and check then auto delete option (down at the bottom) you can get pre-set deletion summaries. It'll automatically remember the last custom deletion reason you used, so it'll remember your ICU one if you don't use any others in between (until you clear your cookies, probably). I'll see about adding an option for custom reasons it permanently remembers though. → Spang ☃☃☃ 00:55, 27 Jan 2010

Handy dandy - thanks Spang! --UU - natter 09:27, Jan 27

More Q stuff

Could you replace the spans by divs and remove the br in {{Q}}? I could explain why, but I'm quite sure you can explain it a lot better than I can. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 04:18, 27 January 2010

But... they're two spans of text which should be separated by a line break! → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:41, 27 Jan 2010

Not necessarily...

“God is dead.

DEAD!

God remains dead.

And we have killed him.

How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers?
What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent?

Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?”

~ The Madman from Thus Spoke Zarathustra (Deutsch:Also sprach Zarathustra), a book for all and none and a philosophical novel written by German philosopher and classical philologist Friedrich Nietzsche who's key ideas include the interpretation of tragedy as an affirmation of life, an eternal recurrence (which numerous commentators have re-interpreted), a rejection of Platonism and a repudiation of both Christianity and egalitarianism (especially in the form of democracy and socialism)

See? —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 05:06, 27 January 2010

Huh. Ok, they're supposed to be two spans of text. Fiiiine, I'll change it. → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:18, 27 Jan 2010

Thanks, Spang. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 05:44, 27 January 2010

Actually, I just stole the following from Wikipedia

{{Cquote}} (for Centered pull-quote) is a template meant for pull-quotes, which stand apart from the text of a page.

• NOTE: This template should not be used for block quotations in article text. For long quotations in the text, the Manual of Style recommends using the HTML <blockquote> element, such as through the use of the {{Quote}} template.
• Pull-quotes work best when used with short quotes, and at the start or end of a section, to help emphasize the content of the section.
• For shorter pull-quotes of 50 words or fewer in a similar style, consider using {{Rquote}} which sets the quote off to either the right or left as in a magazine sidebar. This can be effective on essay pages and WikiProject homepages.

Wikipedia, Cquote, Usage

However as {{Rquote}} already existed in a horrible format on Uncyclopedia, I created {{Vquote}} a little while ago to take it's place. As for the monospace stuff from above, Wikipedia has Quote as their equivalent template, and it's completely different from either the old or the new {{Q}}, and is much closer to {{nicequote}}.

I haven't spent any time looking into quotes at all. Pup

Yeah, those other quotes are nice for including a quote that isn't an "uncyclopedia quote" if you see what I mean. And wikipedia's quote is mostly the same and the new {{Q}} code-wise, they just don't use the italic and bold like the one here. And they have the left side indented, which everyone here hated (but still looks better). WP's Rquote is nice, that would look good at the top of an article and in the middle of it, but only one at a time. I've no idea if Rquote here is worth keeping, probably not. Vquote is good, though looks a little complicated for most people to bother with. → Spang ☃☃☃ 07:22, 27 Jan 2010