User talk:Spang
Flowers[edit source]
Because that's much nicer then the alternative. Pup
Commentification[edit source]
Afternoon Spang, young feller-me-lad, hope life is treating you in some fashion or other. As easily the single most newsworthy occurrence of the year to date, could I press you for a comment on your talkpage archiving shenanigans for the UnSignpost? Or do I have to go make something up, in the way the tabloid press, for example, definitely don't? --UU - natter 14:24, Feb 1
- No comment! → Spang ☃☃☃ 22:09, 01 Feb 2010
User:Disneyfan217/sig5 14:17, Jul 8
Top 10[edit source]
When you get the time, can you look at the feature code of {{2009Top10}}? I got a nasty feeling the re-featuring isn't going to work (as it is now midnight GMT +24 minutes and I still don't see Al Gore on the main page). Thanks. ~ 00:24, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
- OIC. Thank you sir, you saved my arse, as always. ~ 00:35, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
- Fixed, but that sucker ninjastar image looks pretty bad. It should totally have a better icon. → Spang ☃☃☃ 00:35, 02 Feb 2010
- Which one, the one on the template, or the one in the corner? ~ 00:39, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
- Also, I want to switch the feature in a few hours, since there are 4 tied for 10th place, and I don't want to end up clogging the front page forever - is it going to be an issue to have the same feature code over several pages while there is one page at a time on the queue? ~ 00:55, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
- Aren't they both the same image? And no, it shouldn't be a problem as long as there's only one header for each day on the feature queue page. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:08, 02 Feb 2010
- They're the same image - I just used what was on {{2008Top10}}. I didn't really like it, but it was to distinguish it from a standard ninja star feature. The other thing I was thinking was a spinning ninja star gif - much cooler. Pup
- A golden one or something would be more appropriate. → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:10, 02 Feb 2010
- They're the same image - I just used what was on {{2008Top10}}. I didn't really like it, but it was to distinguish it from a standard ninja star feature. The other thing I was thinking was a spinning ninja star gif - much cooler. Pup
- Which one, the one on the template, or the one in the corner? ~ 00:39, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
- Fixed, but that sucker ninjastar image looks pretty bad. It should totally have a better icon. → Spang ☃☃☃ 00:35, 02 Feb 2010
UnSignpost 4th February 2010[edit source]
The Self-Proclaimed Greatest Periodical Of All Time!
Feb 4th, 2010 • Issue 74 • Ain't It Uncool? News!
Spang Archives Talkpage; End of World Expected Imminently
Award Winners Speak Exclusively to UnSignpost Well, there you go folks, looks like the "... of the Year" award voting is done and dusted for another year. Thanks to all who voted; without you, the admins would probably have less to do, which would obviously be dangerous. Anyway, that aside, your ever-topical Unsignpost went and mugged the various winners for comments on their various wins. Several of them, of course, have already made their feelings clear to those who voted for them by way of the traditional thanks templates. Apart from UU, because he's a lazy ass. Or because he's busy writing this. Whichever. Anyway again, for the benefit of those who didn't vote for the winners, and don't watch their talk pages, here's what they had to say: Runaway WotY Hype said: "Thanks, you guys!! If you'll permit me to be dead serious for the first time ever on the wiki, this really is an honor, and it's pretty damn touching that so many people came out in support of my work. Whew. Being serious felt weird. I feel... strange. BALLS BALLS PENIS COCK. Ah... there's the stuff!" He then went off to write another My Sojourn spin-off. Even more runaway PotY Sonje said: "Thank you, I intend to return as soon as I can. I am currently in Africa with very limited internet access. I'll try to time my return to co-incide with the Oscars so that I can get some pointers for my acceptance speech." Admittedly, that was before we asked her for a comment, but then, she is in Africa with limited internet access. Joint UotY Socky channeled Churchill to say: "*scrapes throat* Ahem! I would like to say to the community as I would say to anyone who joined this website: Uncyclopedia has nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat. We have before us an ordeal of the most grievous kind. We have before us many, many long months of struggle and of suffering. You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word: Victory. Victory at all costs — Victory in spite of all error — Victory, however long and hard the road may be, for without victory there is no survival. … That seems to be the wrong Churchill speech. Okay, I'll give it another try. *scrapes throat again* The gratitude of every home throughout the world, except in the abodes of the guilty, goes out to the British airmen and Belgian spies who, undaunted by odds, unwearied in their constant challenge and mortal danger, are turning the tide of the Wiki War by their prowess and by their devotion. Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to two people. And so on and so on… Woot! Woot!" Long-winded bugger. And other joint UotY UU said: "wow, Socky's already left me needing a lot of filler for the right panel, so I'll keep this shortish. First, it's good to see someone who isn't an admin get their hands on this award, and Socky's hard work deserves recognition. Second, it's great to have my complete lack of a life recognised in this way. Third, did someone say Spang's archived his talk page? What the fuck's that all about?." Oh, and Dr. Skullthumper was UGotY, but that was a foregone conclusion anyway. He didn't seem to have any comment of his own to make, so TKF hopped in to the breach with "I call the award a "fascist disgrace" and "move to permanently disbar Mike Socia, that ape from Lighting who made my mole visible to all of the goddamn world watching the ceremony."" Which about wraps it all up, I hope. |
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Browser stuff[edit source]
I'm trying to accommodate for the stupidity that is MSIE. Do you know of any way to do a if browser is MSIE then command? Pup
Oh, and are you able to work out how to stop my sig being stupid when the line is indented?Pup- Ignore the second part - I've worked out where the problem comes from and I've worked out a way to fix it - which involves not using buttonlink - but it'll take too much time to fix that at the moment, so I've just changed my sig completely. Pup
- There's {{Ifie}} which claims to only show the content to IE users, but remember these things all rely on bugs or peculiarities in different browsers which would be fixed or changed any time. The best thing to do is just use correct code, and hope people upgrade their browsers sometime in the near future. The worst of them all, IE6, is almost dead now anyway. → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:59, 13 Feb 2010
Text box code[edit source]
Hiya, I have very little knowledge in coding and even confused whether or not HTML is Uncyclopedia's markup language at all. Basically I'm trying to replicate a text box for use in an article. The purpose would be that the text box can be interacted and typed in and that, but the button alongside it takes the reader to another pre-prepared page on the site.
I resorted to googling "text box html" and found several sites, but I don't know how to implement the coding correctly, or if I'm even heading in the right direction. The following text is code I drew from this site and found it had as much effect on Uncyc as a pin does a sword.
<style type="text/css"> textarea.html-text-box {background-color:FFFFFF;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-attachment:fixed;border-width:1;border-style:solid;border-color:000000;font-family:Verdana;font-size:8pt;color:000000;} input.html-text-box {background-color:ffffff;font-family:Verdana;font-size:8pt;color:000000;} </style> <form method="post" action="http://"><textarea name="comments" cols="15" rows="1" class="html-text-box">Enter your comments here... </textarea> <input type="submit" value="Oldernise!" class="html-text-box"> <input type="reset" value="Reset" class="html-text-box">
</form>
<a href="http://www.quackit.com/html/codes/text/">HTML Text Codes</a>
Is there any way you could help me out? As the Big Yin says, HTML gives me a welcome similar to a fart in a space-suit. I imagine this is all Scotch people think about anyway. --
15:50, February 11, 2010 (UTC)- It can't be done. The mark-up language used on wikipedia is wikimedia (or mediawiki... Whatever) which is like html lite. Given how light html is as a code it makes wiki almost weightless. So wiki uses some css and will allow somw html to be used, but the version Uncyclopedia uses will not allow text boxes and will give an extremely limited input box.
- The closest you can get is User:PuppyOnTheRadio/Fuckwit - English translator - which fakes the look of a textbox and gives you a button link. A slight addition to this could be to change the button type to {{button}} which adds an extra level to the button. But as to being able to input text... Sorry.
- And this isn't my talkpage. Pup 20:18, 11/02/2010
- Ah, right. Oh well, thanks mate. I'll try and implement the fake textbox look in the article then. I'd rather have a box of some sort that turns the cursor into that roman column thingy that cursors do when they fly over text-inputting bits on websites on the internets, than a picture of a textbox. Thanks again. -- 20:49, February 11, 2010 (UTC)
- Basically what he said. Only select safe html tags can be used in mediawiki, everything else is stripped out. There's the inputbox extension which would give you a real input box, but you'd also have to have a button there too, and that button would actually do things. You can add the caret cursor to any element by adding
style="cursor: text;"
, and use various css to make a box look axactly like an input box, but you wouldn't be able to type in it. → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:55, 13 Feb 2010
- Basically what he said. Only select safe html tags can be used in mediawiki, everything else is stripped out. There's the inputbox extension which would give you a real input box, but you'd also have to have a button there too, and that button would actually do things. You can add the caret cursor to any element by adding
WTF?[edit source]
WTF?
03:33, 13 February 2010Ahem.
Lovely spam, wonderful spam,
Lovely spam, wonderful spam,
Spa-a-a-a-a-a-a-am,
Spa-a-a-a-a-a-a-am,
SPA-A-A-A-A-A-A-AM,
SPA-A-A-A-A-A-A-AM,
LOVELY SPAM, LOVELY SPAM,
LOVELY SPAM, LOVELY SPAM,
LOVELY SPA-A-A-A-AM...
SPA-AM, SPA-AM, SPA-AM, SPA-A-A-AM!
That is all. → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:41, 13 Feb 2010
- Ahem.
Lovely spang, wonderful spang,
Lovely spang, wonderful spang,
Spa-a-a-a-a-a-a-ang,
Spa-a-a-a-a-a-a-ang,
SPA-A-A-A-A-A-A-ANG,
SPA-A-A-A-A-A-A-ANG,
LOVELY SPANG, LOVELY SPANG,
LOVELY SPANG, LOVELY SPANG,
LOVELY SPA-A-A-A-ANG...
SPA-ANG, SPA-ANG, SPA-ANG, SPA-A-A-ANG!
- No really, WTF?
- SPANG HUFFS LIKE A MADMAN
03:45, 13 February 2010
He also deletes articles well
03:49, February 13, 2010 (UTC)- None of those were articles. → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:55, 13 Feb 2010
- They were funny however. As agreed by the many, many different people (including many admins) who created them. How about you put them back eh? If you want to get rid of the page they were linking to... Try VFD. MrN 03:59, Feb 13
- I realise people think the page it links to is funny for some reason, and that's not much of a problem. But all the the redirects I deleted are useless, and having a useless redirect where there could be an actual article tends to discourage anyone who might make a legitimate article in its place. Also, restoring them would be a lot more effort than it took to delete them, so no. → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:03, 13 Feb 2010
- Oops, I turned this serious. :|
- YEAH. YOU SUCK, GUY. → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:11, 13 Feb 2010
- I SUCK YOU ROFLROFL 04:23, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
04:10, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
- YEAH. YOU SUCK, GUY. → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:11, 13 Feb 2010
- Many of those redirect (such as the two created by MadMax and myself today) were not useless in our opinions. That's why we created them. They were actually very funny in the context of the article they were used in. It's common to use redirects as a way of expressing humour on Uncyc. By your logic ALL redirects should be deleted. Maybe some of them should have been deleted, but I feel you have gone totally over the top by deleting them all. I guess as you can't be bothered to fix this I will do so tomorrow. Or Socky and others can now if they want to. MrN 04:24, Feb 13
- I didn't delete them all. I left out the ones which probably should redirect to that article. Maybe you just misunderestimated the actual number of redirects to it (100+) → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:47, 13 Feb 2010
- Okay, maybe a few should be put back. Clearly the global warming related ones are far more useful pointing to that page than, say, global warming. Other are clearly just instant funny because, for no reason, and despite being completely unrelated, they redirect to a page which says "a wizard did it", such as ☯, yay, and Poking people with bits of sharp metal. Then packaged bread without crust. There's also the ones which by all tests seem to be vanity, but actually aren't, like Modus is the worst, or Famine is a bastard, or MrN Has unusually large reproductive organs. There's all the ones where the title has something vaguely to do with magic, and therefore obviously should redirect to it. Practically everyone in Norway can see that! Probably. But clearly, they're all useful and hilarious redirects that definitely should be there, and someone deleting them was most improbable thing to ever happen in the whole history of everything. → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:09, 13 Feb 2010
- I didn't delete them all. I left out the ones which probably should redirect to that article. Maybe you just misunderestimated the actual number of redirects to it (100+) → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:47, 13 Feb 2010
- Oops, I turned this serious. :|
- I realise people think the page it links to is funny for some reason, and that's not much of a problem. But all the the redirects I deleted are useless, and having a useless redirect where there could be an actual article tends to discourage anyone who might make a legitimate article in its place. Also, restoring them would be a lot more effort than it took to delete them, so no. → Spang ☃☃☃ 04:03, 13 Feb 2010
- They were funny however. As agreed by the many, many different people (including many admins) who created them. How about you put them back eh? If you want to get rid of the page they were linking to... Try VFD. MrN 03:59, Feb 13
- None of those were articles. → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:55, 13 Feb 2010
- Alternate response. This is you: Where the fuck is my article?!?!?!?!?!? → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:09, 13 Feb 2010
- Regarding Where the fuck is my article... As you said, none of those were articles. I'm glad we agree about MrN Has unusually large reproductive organs. That's not vanity btw. It would be vanity had I created it, actually I don't remember ever seeing that redirect before. It was probably too factually correct so I totally support you deleting that one. This is Uncyc after all. MrN 08:53, Feb 13
- So does anybody mind if I go through the list of redirects deleted and recreate the ones I think weren't useless at all? 18:41, 13 February 2010
- Regarding Where the fuck is my article... As you said, none of those were articles. I'm glad we agree about MrN Has unusually large reproductive organs. That's not vanity btw. It would be vanity had I created it, actually I don't remember ever seeing that redirect before. It was probably too factually correct so I totally support you deleting that one. This is Uncyc after all. MrN 08:53, Feb 13
- Alternate response. This is you: Where the fuck is my article?!?!?!?!?!? → Spang ☃☃☃ 05:09, 13 Feb 2010
WTF 2[edit source]
The staff at Unsignpost have come to the realisation that you... did something about something that we know nothing about but has something to do with WTF, but we have no idea WTF WTF is. While we are known for our gutter journalism and our ability to create complete stories out of minimal factual information, we would like to get a comment from yourself that we can twist dramatically out of context and show you in the least flattering light. Any comment? Pup 09:37, 15/02/2010
- I didn't delete those. A wizard did it. → Spang ☃☃☃ 07:05, 20 Feb 2010
Question about Bot[edit source]
User:SPIKE left me a message about using a bot to replace pages linking {{QNL}} with {{Q}}. Would this be possible? MadMax 23:38, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
- Possibly with a bot or script, but a redirect is probably a good a solution as any. → Spang ☃☃☃ 07:05, 20 Feb 2010
Questions[edit source]
Ooh, you archived! Two questions today:
- (Further to the previous section: I first asked MadMax thinking, from his prolific editing, that he was the site's Master of Bots.) The Forum debate on {{Q}} is closed, but it seems there is a {{QNL}}, used on between 250 and 500 pages, that at this point is nothing but a redirect to {{Q}}. It is not referenced in the documentation on {{Q}} of alternative ways to code quotes. Can "{{QNL" be globally converted to "{{Q"?
- The page UnNews would look a lot better if the section headings were not numbered. I have stumbled on NOTOC but can't find anything in Wikipedia Help about turning off numbering on a single page. (Numbering can be turned off for all pages by a user preference.) Spıke ¬ 00:14 18-Feb-10
- MrN9000's a good man to go to for a bot. As for UnNews, I don't have any numbering appearing when I look at it. In fact I can see bullets (*) instead of numbers (#). Where are you specifically referring to. Also, this is not my talk page. Pup 02:03, 18/02/2010
Numbered sections in UnNews[edit source]
You might not see section numbers, as (again) individual users can turn that off in their Preferences. When I click on your link, I see in the upper right of the page, "13 Start a new article" and, down below, the daily list is numbered, "2 February 17", "3 February 16", and so on. These are Sections 13, 2, and 3; but in no case does it help to show the section number. Spıke ¬ 02:43 18-Feb-10
- Ah - Either that was turned off by default or I deselected it ages ago. I can think of a fix that's really a long work-around, but it means that the section headings are no longer true section headings, which means that it will stuff up other areas. In regards to removing it and not stuffing up the rest... no idea at this stage. Pup 03:29, 18/02/2010
- Pretty sure it's off by default and you have to turn it on to get this. I don't know if it can be changed. Using <h2> tags instead of wiki headers might stop it doing that. I dunno. → Spang ☃☃☃ 07:11, 20 Feb 2010
- Okay - I've given it a burl and had no joy. The <h2> has the same issue (although they are actually third level headers, but ignoring that bit.) What can be done though is:-
- Fake Header
<span style="font-size:150%; line-height: 100%;">Fake Header</span>
- Which kills the possibility of editing using clicking headers, and removes the edit section stuff. It will work on this, but it's not pretty. An alternative is {{Hd}} which would be something along the lines of:
<span style="font-size:150%; line-height: 100%;">{{{1}}}</span>
- Which would replace the above with
{{Hd|Fake Header}}
- What do you think? Pup 08:41, 20/02/2010
- Done... got impatient. Pup 10:22, 20/02/2010
You would have waited until now, because we on the US East Coast have been sleeping. I see you used a brute-force solution, and even went into {{RecentUnNewsAudio}} (recently renamed by me), inside which someone saw fit to hide a section head. It effects a change to UnNews:UnNewsAudio, inconsistent but not really ugly. The fake section headers look good here--which is lucky, because you didn't give them a class name in case I wanted to override you!
Use of Georgia font in UnNews[edit source]
Now, one more question (originally asked of Rev. Zim--Who says I send information to the wrong people?): Who in hell is mandating the use of Georgia font in the headlines on UnNews? I can't override this without changing the rendition of every wikilink everywhere. Spıke ¬ 11:16 20-Feb-10
- I'm on the East coast too, but it's actually early tomorrow here. Need to sleep. I didn't create {{h3}} in the end because it was already done, but adding a class to the template is a doddle, and if it's a unique name it won't affect anyone else. I did create {{h4}} though.
- As to the Georgia - no idea, and to be honest hadn't even noticed. More news-printy though. Pup 14:49, 20/02/2010
Found it. I have modified {{Main Lead}} so that the SPAN it creates for the main story's headline includes class=UnNewsHeadline
and modified {{Lead}} for the two secondary stories to include class=UnNewsSubheadline
. This should be invisible to everyone other than me. Spıke ¬ 23:09 22-Feb-10
QNL is done[edit source]
MrN has now taken care of {{QNL}}. Spang, or anyone with permissions, would you please remove the reference, in {{Q}}, to my alternative {{Q1}}? Q1 doesn't do anything that you cannot do now with Q; I don't use Q1; and there is no reason for anyone else to use Q1, unless you really hate the tilde in favor of the em-dash. {{Q1}} is not used outside userspace and the Forum where we discussed the options. Spıke ¬ 20:02 18-Feb-10
- But I like Q1!!! dang. ~ Avast Matey!!! Happytimes are here!* ~ ~ 19 Feb 2010 ~ 03:56 (UTC)
- Done, and you can still use Q1 if you want. → Spang ☃☃☃ 07:11, 20 Feb 2010
- You're a scholar and a gentleman. ~ Avast Matey!!! Happytimes are here!* ~ ~ 21 Feb 2010 ~ 03:24 (UTC)
As the author of {{Q1}}, though, Happytimes is its only user, it's in a page in his userspace (on R.Kelly) that he was given to maybe give it life after VFD some day, and it could just as easily use {{Q}}. I want {{Q1}} to be deleted, but will take it to VFD if that's what's appropriate. I seem to remember discussing with Happytimes local overrides (the orders on my system make {{Q}} and {{Q1}} look identical except for that em-dash. Spıke ¬ 04:18 21-Feb-10
- Are we able to change {{Q}} to:
<blockquote style="margin: 0.4em 1em .8em 0" class="quote"><span class="quoteline" style="background-color:#f9f9f9;font-size:1.1em;font-style:italic">“{{{1|Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative.}}}”</span><div style="margin-left:2em;"><span class="quoteauthor" style="font-weight:bold;background-color:#f9f9f9;">{{#ifexist:{{{4|}}}|{{{4}}}|{{{4|~}}}}} {{#ifexist:{{{2|}}}|[[{{{2}}}]]|{{{2|Oscar Wilde}}}}} {{#if:{{{3|}}}|on {{{3}}}}}</span></div></blockquote>
- to allow for someone to specify an "—", or whatever else takes their fancy? That will mean that {{Q}} becomes the equivalent of {{Q1}} simply by using the format:
{{Q|I really dislike tildes|Happytimes|quote templates|—}}
- Pup 04:40, 21/02/2010
Puppy, you are on your own. I got Zana tired of talking about it, and I think Spang got tired too, on some of the pickier turns this was taking, and I gave up on my assertion that no one else in the world uses a tilde to introduce the utteror. Happytimes needs to 'fess up if he was just kidding when he protested that he likes {{Q1}}. Plowing it under is far preferable than giving it a fourth argument. Spıke ¬ 05:09 21-Feb-10
- Honestly don't really care about it, but figured it was an easy solution. To my mind a fourth argument only becomes an issue when that argument is compulsory. But as I said, I'm giving a potential solution but beyond that I'm not concerned. Pup 05:13, 21/02/2010
- I really do like it better; but it does show up differently on my browser... anyway as you can see from my signature I do like tildes, that was never an issue for me at all ... I'm rambling... kill Q1 if you want, I won't cry. (I'll only have to change two instances is all.) ~ Avast Matey!!! Happytimes are here!* ~ ~ 21 Feb 2010 ~ 08:41 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. As a motion, once made and seconded, is the "property of the floor," I've taken {{Q1}} to VFD rather than request a private huffing. Spıke ¬ 13:50 21-Feb-10
Good day sir[edit source]
Hope all is well in the Spang camp. I was wondering if you could point me in the direction of how you managed to get mass huffing working. I saw in the MediaWiki:Common.js that it points to this but as you see, that is not. Did you use a bot or is there some other magic rune I need to say first? Thanks in advance. MrN 08:58, Feb 21
- I just wrote a small script of my own devising to delete any list of pages given to it. Could also be modified to move or do any other action, which I see could be useful for deleting games. Dunno if it would be useful for anyone else yet, as it's not average user friendly and needs you to use some other javascript on the page first for each list to delete so it can do things. If you want a game deleted, you could post it here, or I'll see if I can be bothered to make the script a little more user friendly. → Spang ☃☃☃ 18:35, 21 Feb 2010
- Cool. Well, Game:TAOAG needs to go. That's this I think. I'm not a .js expert (C/C++) is more my bag, but I might be able to figure out what you have done with it if you don't have time to put into this now... Thinking about it, I actually have some C# code somewhere which can edit wikis. I must get off my arse and get that going sometime... MrN 19:47, Feb 21
Multiple choice question[edit source]
I have half a thought in mind and thought I'd run it past you to get your perspective. Is there any way to create multiple redirects to one page based upon a rootpage without creating a bunch of pages to redirect to one place. Or putting it simpler, if I created a page Multiple choice if I then created a link to Multiple choice: aace but have this swinging back to Multiple choice as a redirect without creating a bundle of pages from aaaa through to eeee. I'm thinking not, but figured it would be better to ask then keep working on a dead end. Pup 12:21, 22/02/2010
- Never mind. I'm assuming the answer is no, and the other half of my thought hasn't worked either. I'm in the process of trying a back-up plan, but not holding my breath. Pup 20:56, 22/02/2010
- Have I expressed my frustration with the difficulty using mediawiki when trying to do something that is slightly left of centre? Argh! Pup 21:06, 22/02/2010
- You could have multiple sections on a page spaced very far apart and then link to their #section headers. Otherwise, you would have to create all the pages in a choice-tree form with a page for all possible choices. And yes, mediawiki was made for making encyclopedic-like articles and so anything else is going to be a little tricky to accomplish! → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:41, 22 Feb 2010
- Okay, what I've played with and put together so far is User:PuppyOnTheRadio/Sandbox/0 which is a 2 state one level multiple choice. Or in short, a switch. Logically from here I could have User:PuppyOnTheRadio/Sandbox/0/1/4/5 etc where depending on the number of variables that I assign and what I let them get up to as to how many pages we would be looking at. By getting it to drag from a template like User:PuppyOnTheRadio/Sandbox however it means that all the info can be one that one page, and the other pages can just draw from this central point. It also means when used with a funkier front end like User:PuppyOnTheRadio/aitd:start you have a number of limited choices (4 directional choices, 1 use and 2 drop) but it gives an illusion of a much larger choice. This would mean that aitd could stretch out into a seven tiered system, but given that the drop choices are three pronged (I have, I just dropped, I don't have), and I'm limiting what can be done directionally, it means a lot of pages that effectively just link back to one template. It's long, but not complicated now I'm over the main hurdle, but what are your thoughts? Can you see anything that could be done a little better, or less server intensive? (I've already optimised the images as much as I can, btw, but I'm happy to agree to further optimisation as long as there's not a significant drop in quality.) Pup 01:59, 23/02/2010
I would just like to clarify...[edit source]
You include your favourite in-joke in the MediaWiki:Sidebar for several months, but no other admins revert you (I guess they would consider it rude to do so), yet you delete redirects to another popular in-joke as "spam" and when there is a current active VFH nomination on a valid article article you simply move that article to the userspace of an admin who did not create it and even leave the VFH nomination open with a red link?
# 01:52, 11 March 2010 (hist) (diff) m User:Roman Dog Bird/Barack Obama's Statement (moved Barack Obama's Statement to User:Roman Dog Bird/Barack Obama's Statement: Add to the list: creates vanity pages) (top) [rollback]
I guess you know what's best and all the other admins here don't I assume? Obviously I will clean up after you (again). I just love doing that.
Also, I'm grateful for all the time you put into sorting this important issue. I take it you don't intend to share your code which allows speedy deletion of multiple pages with us as you are obviously too busy, and it's best if we just have to rely on you whenever we need to do this? MrN 10:10, Mar 11
Let's see.
- Euroipods is not my favourite inside joke, clearly. And I changed it to that from "Yorkshire style humour, by 'eck" which was even more of an inside joke, as I think it related to a forum that was going on at the time. I changed it to less of an inside joke because it was a) line wrapping in the sidebar and b) didn't want to straight revert the humorous (I'm sure) change to the sidebar text (I guess that would have been rude). I recently changed it back because it had been there for long enough.
- Deleting spam redirects to popular in-joke? Guilty as charged. Not sorry.
- Moving vanity article to userspace of the user it was about. Oops. I didn't even check the history of that thing. But I would disagree that it's a valid article. It is vanity. Vanity articles are not valid, even if nominated for VFH (by the user the vanity article was about, shockingly!). I'm sure I must have said it a thousand times, but vanity by/about uncyclopedia users is still vanity as far as I'm concerned. And no, a VFH template won't save it. And RDB's userpage is still a good place to move it, unless you'd rather it was moved to the IP's userpage or whatever?
- That forum thing. That took two minutes to do. I'm also grateful I have 2 minutes to do something amusing. I guess I'd be a pretty unhappy person if I didn't even have that.
- Finally, here's the code for the mass deletion script. I hope you find it useful.
pages = // ( /api.php?action=query&list=backlinks&bllimit=500&blfilterredir=redirects&format=jsonfm&bltitle=... etc ) token = // ( Token ) count = 0 reason = '' // ( Reason ) function del(page,token,reason) { YAHOO.util.Connect.asyncRequest('POST', '/api.php?action=delete&format=xml&title=' + encodeURIComponent(page) + '&token=' + encodeURIComponent(token) + '&reason=' + encodeURIComponent(reason), delc, null); } delc = { success: function(o) { print(o.responseText) count++; del(pages[count].title,token,reason) } } del(pages[count].title,token,reason)
- I hope that clarifies everything for you! → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:48, 11 Mar 2010
- One question - how did you do the list of contributions for Happytimes like that? Nominally Humane! some time Friday, 06:24, Mar 12 2010 UTC
{{#dpl:modifiedby=Happytimes|offset=0}}
If the list is 500 pages long, change offset to 500. And repeat. I copied and pasted it because it takes a while to load. And then formatted it a bit. → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:27, 12 Mar 2010- Thanks. Nominally Humane! some time Friday, 06:29, Mar 12 2010 UTC
- Okay - where do I find documentation on #dpl: ? Nominally Humane! some time Friday, 06:43, Mar 12 2010 UTC
- http://semeb.com/dpldemo/index.php?title=DPL:Manual → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:44, 12 Mar 2010
- Hm,m,m,m,m,m.... I'd really like to begin to learn all of this stuff, what would you recommend as a place to start? ~ Avast Matey!!! Happytimes are here!* ~ ~ 21 Mar 2010 ~ 06:35 (UTC)
- http://semeb.com/dpldemo/index.php?title=DPL:Manual → Spang ☃☃☃ 06:44, 12 Mar 2010
- One question - how did you do the list of contributions for Happytimes like that? Nominally Humane! some time Friday, 06:24, Mar 12 2010 UTC
Some argue[edit source]
that your QVFD script breaks when presented with a $ in the page title. So it takes two clicks to report the page on QVFD instead of one. Appalling, I'm sure you agree. --Pleb SYNDROME CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!) 18:33, March 12, 2010 (UTC)
- Works for me... What exactly did it do wrong? → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:50, 12 Mar 2010
- See the enlarged screenshot. Normally when new pages are listed on recent changes, it will say "qvfd" in the column where it says "diff" for other edits. In this case, the "qvfd" link broke and the new page was listed twice on the same line. --Pleb SYNDROME CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!) 00:04, March 13, 2010 (UTC)
- Oh yeah. I'll look into it. → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:37, 13 Mar 2010
- Psst... where do I find a copy of this script? Nominally Humane! some time Tuesday, 01:26, Mar 16 2010 UTC
- Go to preferences, gadgets tab, check qvfd script box. Done! → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:34, 16 Mar 2010
- Psst... where do I find a copy of this script? Nominally Humane! some time Tuesday, 01:26, Mar 16 2010 UTC
- Oh yeah. I'll look into it. → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:37, 13 Mar 2010
- See the enlarged screenshot. Normally when new pages are listed on recent changes, it will say "qvfd" in the column where it says "diff" for other edits. In this case, the "qvfd" link broke and the new page was listed twice on the same line. --Pleb SYNDROME CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!) 00:04, March 13, 2010 (UTC)
Thinking...[edit source]
I would like to find a function that returns the height and width of an image from an image file. ny ideas? Nominally Humane! some time Saturday, 07:40, Mar 13 2010 UTC
- Why? → Spang ☃☃☃ 17:44, 13 Mar 2010
<div style="position:absolute; width:25%; height: 200px; left: 2.5%; top: 275px; overflow: hidden; background:black;">
<div style="position:absolute; left:50%; top:50%; width: 100%; height: 100%;">
<div style="position:absolute; left: half of the width of the image; top:half of the height of the image;">
[[File:random image|link=]]
</div></div></div>
Nominally Humane! some time Saturday, 22:51, Mar 13 2010 UTC
- What in the hell is that for? And it would probably help a lot more if you would just explain what you want. Or draw it in MS Paint or something. → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:02, 13 Mar 2010
- Oh I see, Chat roulette. That's horrifically bad html. Why wouldn't you just centre it? → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:24, 13 Mar 2010
- More looking at centering it vertically. And the bad html is mainly as a brute force way of doing something first and then tidying it up later. Nominally Humane! some time Saturday, 23:30, Mar 13 2010 UTC
- Well I looked at it a little and found that a) the random image tag already lets you specify to centre the image in the middle, and keep it a specific width. And b) that barely any images are shorter than 200px anyway, so vertical centreing isn't much of a problem. If you really wanted it to be vertical centred, you should put it all in a table, and set vertical-align: middle. A table would be far better than those weird percentages in the absolute positioning, which won't work for all screen sizes as is. → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:52, 13 Mar 2010
- More looking at centering it vertically. And the bad html is mainly as a brute force way of doing something first and then tidying it up later. Nominally Humane! some time Saturday, 23:30, Mar 13 2010 UTC
- Oh I see, Chat roulette. That's horrifically bad html. Why wouldn't you just centre it? → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:24, 13 Mar 2010
- I'm just playing with ideas at the moment really, and will probably dump 90% of what I've done so far. It's long and hideous, and there are better ways to do it. I am really just playing as a way of teaching myself. Thanks. Nominally Humane! some time Sunday, 00:01, Mar 14 2010 UTC
- Oh, but to answer your original question, no, I don't think that's possible. Although I guess you figured that part already. → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:17, 14 Mar 2010
- I thought as much. I've thought of a few other tricks I can use, as I'd really like to be able to use percentage of width for this one. Should be able to bring the size of this down to about 10% of what it is so far. Nominally Humane! some time Sunday, 02:34, Mar 14 2010 UTC
- Done! Table 100% width with left side fixed width (where images are) and right side is remainder. Also using {{CGI}} for the first time, which is the answer to a question I asked relating to Game:Alone in the dark relating to having multiple pages redirect to one place - just use offset instead of different page names for them and Bob's your uncle. Puppy Sunday, 07:26, Mar 21 2010 UTC
- I thought as much. I've thought of a few other tricks I can use, as I'd really like to be able to use percentage of width for this one. Should be able to bring the size of this down to about 10% of what it is so far. Nominally Humane! some time Sunday, 02:34, Mar 14 2010 UTC
- Oh, but to answer your original question, no, I don't think that's possible. Although I guess you figured that part already. → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:17, 14 Mar 2010
- I'm just playing with ideas at the moment really, and will probably dump 90% of what I've done so far. It's long and hideous, and there are better ways to do it. I am really just playing as a way of teaching myself. Thanks. Nominally Humane! some time Sunday, 00:01, Mar 14 2010 UTC
Category:Video Games[edit source]
Appears to not be functioning. I.e. UnNews:Dante Alighieri: "EA got it right!" isn't appearing in Category:Video games. --Mn-z 12:03, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, I just did that to test it out. I was sure it used to work at one point, but definitely doesn't now. Oh well. → Spang ☃☃☃ 18:29, 28 Mar 2010
- Something about a bot having to do the work according to w:Template:Category redirect. Puppy Sunday, 21:09, Mar 28 2010 UTC
- I just experimented - bad Capitalisation kills Categories, so
Category:Dead rising
doesn't findCategory:Dead Rising
- so By havingCategory:Video Games
it Won't findCategory:Video games
no Matter what you do. So I'd suggest DeletingCategory:Video Games
, or Soft redirection with warning, Rather than redirecting. Puppy Sunday, 21:19, Mar 28 2010 UTC
- I just experimented - bad Capitalisation kills Categories, so
- Something about a bot having to do the work according to w:Template:Category redirect. Puppy Sunday, 21:09, Mar 28 2010 UTC
VFH template[edit source]
Hi Spang, I need your help on this ! --Monsieur William Little 11:10, March 29, 2010 (UTC)
- Transclusion of a forum page is a pain in the bum. I'd have to look into Spang's code to be able to replicate it if I was to do it, but I'd be doing a basic cut and paste to get it all together - Spang is still the best man for this job, but if you can be patient I can look into it for you. I've been meaning to crack open this code for a while out of curiosity anyway. Nominally Humane! some time Friday, 10:08, Apr 2 2010 UTC
- Hey, totally forgot about this, sorry. I left a reply in the forum. → Spang ☃☃☃ 21:28, 02 Apr 2010
I Need Some Help![edit source]
How do you change the title of the article to look like a different font? I know doing this doesn't work:
{{title|<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;">A Doctor's Visit</span>}}
I tried some other variations of the above, and I even did something so n00bish I should probably be taunted for being such a fucking n00b: I copied the source code from the article, You Are Dead, and changed it a little, like this...
<div id="title-meta" style="display:none;"><span style="font-variant:small-caps;">A Doctor's Visit</span></div><div id="title-align" style="display:none;">left</div>
It still didn't work. Could you please help me? I suck at HTML. This is the article I need help on.-- 02:26, April 6, 2010 (UTC)
- You were almost there when you pasted the code straight onto the page, but you just needed to change font-variant to font-family. It's done now. And yeah, don't feel bad about copying stuff done on other articles, that's exactly the best way to learn. → Spang ☃☃☃ 02:37, 06 Apr 2010
Extract section stuff[edit source]
Hi. I have a couple of ideas in mind that I need a little help with. I came across User talk:Spang/latest, which I've stolen but haven't quite worked out the workings of it yet, but I was wanting to know:
- Is there a way I can say "transclude the last three sections of a page"?
- Is there a way I can say "transclude only section x from a page"?
- Is there a way I can say "edit only section x from a page"?
- is there a way I can say "return a value that is the total number of sections on a page"?
(Assuming by section I mean from the start of a particular header to the start of the next header, wether it be level 1, 2, 3, etc.) Hope that makes sense. Nominally Humane! some time Monday, 03:42, Apr 12 2010 UTC
- Nope.
- Yes, use
includepage=%x
to include section number x. - Not specifically using DPL, but seeing as you already know the section number you want to be editing, you can just link directly to the section edit page, like http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Spang&action=edit§ion=1 . You can also just link to the section using
%SECTION%
. - I don't think so, unless you trick it somehow. → Spang ☃☃☃ 23:26, 12 Apr 2010
- Damn
- Cool, that makes that particular idea a little easier
- I can't believe I asked that question when if I had thought for a second longer I would have known it. I got a little mussed up because I was really thinking of how to do it if I was able to do the next point. Could also use magic words as well to keep the code a little tidier really.
- I'll keep looking into this one. If you come across an answer then please let me know. Thanks for the help.Nominally Humane! some time Monday, 23:41, Apr 12 2010 UTC
It's uhh... been a while[edit source]
It feels like too long since I've been able to say this, so... FU SPANG!!! Also, this is my first edit in... well... I have no idea how long. --Mr. Alberto "Letters" ℜwg ☃ FU ☃ 19:56, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
Hi spang.[edit source]
Hi, Spang. I'd like you to review my Tracey (Pokemon) page.24.44.119.71 16:47, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
- Since I happen to be passing I can give you a quick opinion, though you can wait for the words of the mighty Spang should you wish. Your article is too short and needs more work. Specifically just saying someone is gay doesn't really cut it, it's been done thousands if not millions of times before and just feels tired. You also have a couple of other jokes but they are particularly random, and while random can be funny it doesn't work if you just make things up, try and base your jokes in fact or at least in some kind of context so that they can be understood. My advice would be read HTBFANJS and the beginner's guide then start from scratch, as it is your article is likely to end up in the ICU so take your time and rework it carefully. If you aren't sure what a completed article should look like then you should take a look at some of our featured articles. Sorry for hijacking your talk page Spang. --ChiefjusticeGameCube 17:00, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
Stupid noob asking stupid question[edit source]
How can I make a custom timestamp? I have User:HELPME/Timestamp, but it doesn't work. (It looks messed up, like this: {{SUBST:CURRENTDAYNAME}}, {{SUBST:CURRENTTIME}}, {{SUBST:CURRENTMONTHABBREV}} {{SUBST:CURRENTDAY}} {{SUBST:CURRENTYEAR}} UTC) How do I need to set up my preferences and the stamp itself? I looked at the help forum for it, but it didn't help me. Also, I would ask POTR, but he already had to deal with Necropaxx asking this same question, so I figured I wouldn't bother him about the same thing twice.-- 02:49, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
- Timestamps incorporated into signatures is a pain in the butt. There are a few ways to work them, depending on what you are trying to do. Nominally Humane! some time Sunday, 03:29, May 16 2010 UTC
- Don't use a template. Add this to the end of whatever you have in your signature box:
<small><span style="color:blue;">''{{#time: l, h:i, F d Y}} [[UTC]]''</span></small>
and then only sign with 3 tildes from now on. → Spang ☃☃☃ 03:39, 16 May 2010- Thanks, it works now.--Sunday, 06:38, May 16 2010 UTC
Love you, too.[edit source]
But in a totally manly way. MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 00:06, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
Hey[edit source]
[meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jcobbers/wmv_extension] - Can we? Nominally Humane! some time Tuesday, 13:10, Jun 15 2010 UTC
- Ask someone who can do something about it? → Spang ☃☃☃ 20:48, 15 Jun 2010
- Done - thanks. Nominally Humane! some time Wednesday, 03:11, Jun 16 2010 UTC
Twittler[edit source]
I was told either you or Codeine have the secret code to our bird publishing platform. I'd like to adopt the Twitter page because I am active and nutty =U --Sir General Minister G5 FIYC UPotM [Y] #21 F@H KUN 17:33, July 18, 2010 (UTC)
Javascript popups[edit source]
I was told you're a techie guy around here. Have you or others on uncyclopedia considered importing (and changing to your liking) Javascript popups? See also MediaWiki:Gadget-popups.js. It really makes moving around wikis so much easier. Mister Victim (talk) 03:59, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
- There is a version that was fixed for here and kept under someone's user subpage, but I can't remember where. That was a long time ago though, it's probably quite out of date. If I find it, or feel like fixing up the current one, I could add it in on the gadgets page. → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:19, 10 Sep 2010
Wasn't Wumbo[edit source]
I mean; didn't Wumbo already survive VFD? I ask because I remember a conversation about how it was the top Google link for Wumbo (it's not anymore) and so I added it to my list of articles I watched for vandalism. It got lots of edits from IP's, but few vandalism's, & I think a lot of people liked it the harmless little thing. (It just goes to show you what happenes if you don't check the VFD for a few days.) Can we get it back??? ~ Avast Matey!!! Happytimes are here!* ~ ~ 14 Aug 2010 ~ 01:27 (UTC)
Image spamming[edit source]
Hi Spang. I wrote to you awhile ago about blocking certain test/vandal edits to pages using the toolbar feature (e.g. , , etc.) and was wondering if you could do the same thing to prevent exessive amounts of the same image, or a combination, being posted at one time? MadMax 06:09, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
- That one would be rather more difficult, to the point where it probably wouldn't be worth it. Unless you had a specific commonly spammed image/s in mind, not much I could do here... → Spang ☃☃☃ 01:17, 10 Sep 2010
Template halp![edit source]
I'm working on categorizing templates, and I ran into some templates like this. What could I categorize them as? Love,
- P.S. These are the template categories. Love,
- Short answer long - they're being used purely as part of coding, so they have no purpose on their own but as part of other templates. Maybe create Category:Code? Nominally Humane! some time Monday, 06:53, Sep 20 2010 UTC
- Utility templates tends to be where those go. → Spang ☃☃☃ 15:24, 20 Sep 2010
Bot Issue[edit source]
For some reason, I can not log-in with my bot account on the auto-wiki-browser. It says that I "need token" or something to that effect. I remember a page of accounts who had authority to edit with the awb, but I can't find that page. Was it accidentally deleted or something? Unfortunately, noone with a bot account is active right now. --Mn-z 01:03, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
Need reviewers for my article.[edit source]
Would you please get some users and admins & kindly ask them to review my article here: Uncyclopedia:Pee Review/Uncyclopedia:Pee Review/ATX? I don't want my article to get deleted again. I have no reviewers at all. Thank you, User:DJ Mixerr/sig
Howdy[edit source]
Quickie. Looking for dpl code as {{#dpl...}} to extract the header only for a section. Dpl is still not a strength of mine, but I'm starting to experiment, and I don't know anyone else who knows it as well as you. Nominally Humane! some time Saturday, 00:48, Jan 15 2011 UTC
- You can use this:
{{#dpl: mode=userformat |title=User_talk:Spang |includepage=%5[0] |secseparators= %SECTION% }}
This example would output only the fifth header from my talkpage. Change to includepage=%6[0]
to include the 6th section, etc. → Spang ☃☃☃ 14:50, 27 Jan 2011
While you're in the area[edit source]
The feature process is still fucked. The DPL function that sets (or extracts) time doesn't work as well as the one that extracts the last revision. Can you take a look? ~ 20:11, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, I clicked through before and everything seemed ok, but I didn't actually save anything, just previewed... will have a look. → Spang ☃☃☃ 11:50, 16 Feb 2011
- The templates seem to be fixed now, but you might have to wait for the cache to catch up before you can actually use it. → Spang ☃☃☃ 12:20, 16 Feb 2011
- Actually, it seems the DPL extension has changed (I can't find anything about it in the manual) to leave a {{Extension DPL}} template wherever it's used, which obviously breaks where it's used within any time functions. So unless I can find a way to change that, there is no way to currently do what that template does. → Spang ☃☃☃ 13:06, 16 Feb 2011
- Crap, it's a real pain to do it like that. Is there any workaround? ~ 15:34, February 16, 2011 (UTC)
- I've changed it up slightly, so the available dates for feature should appear at the top of the edit page, so it's just a matter of copying and pasting the date you want into the slot= parameter, which is probably the best I could do at the moment. I know a few other templates will need fixed too, but I have to go out now, so will do those later. Try going through featuring an article (just preview, you don't need to save anything) and let me know if it looks like it's working. → Spang ☃☃☃ 19:12, 17 Feb 2011
- Much better, thanks. The only thing that doesn't work is that the "place article next in the queue" template doesn't recognize if there is something in the queue or not. But it's no biggy. ~ 18:51, February 18, 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, that probably won't work again either, so I just simplified it. Better than nothing! → Spang ☃☃☃ 18:58, 18 Feb 2011
- Much better, thanks. The only thing that doesn't work is that the "place article next in the queue" template doesn't recognize if there is something in the queue or not. But it's no biggy. ~ 18:51, February 18, 2011 (UTC)
- I've changed it up slightly, so the available dates for feature should appear at the top of the edit page, so it's just a matter of copying and pasting the date you want into the slot= parameter, which is probably the best I could do at the moment. I know a few other templates will need fixed too, but I have to go out now, so will do those later. Try going through featuring an article (just preview, you don't need to save anything) and let me know if it looks like it's working. → Spang ☃☃☃ 19:12, 17 Feb 2011
- Crap, it's a real pain to do it like that. Is there any workaround? ~ 15:34, February 16, 2011 (UTC)
- Actually, it seems the DPL extension has changed (I can't find anything about it in the manual) to leave a {{Extension DPL}} template wherever it's used, which obviously breaks where it's used within any time functions. So unless I can find a way to change that, there is no way to currently do what that template does. → Spang ☃☃☃ 13:06, 16 Feb 2011
- The templates seem to be fixed now, but you might have to wait for the cache to catch up before you can actually use it. → Spang ☃☃☃ 12:20, 16 Feb 2011
While you're in the area #2[edit source]
FU. How's Trix? —rc (t) 13:35, February 16, 2011 (UTC)
- FU! Trix are about just about average. How was the world? → Spang ☃☃☃ 13:38, 16 Feb 2011
- So overall pretty average? FU. → Spang ☃☃☃ 13:48, 16 Feb 2011
Oh.[edit source]
You won this.
Zombie of the Month February 2011 | |
Sometimes I really wish you'd be less dead and more undead, but... eh. Cheers. ~ 06:04, 6 March 2011
As regards CSS and .vfhvoted[edit source]
Yeah I know you're not around but whatever, I just had to put this in writing somewhere.
On Chrome and FF4, your "mark as voted" code fails. This seems to be because said browsers cannot understand a link inside a span or, for that matter, a span inside a link. a works. a:visited works. And of course, any .class works too. But if you mix it up like .class a or a .class or .class a:visited it just... doesn't apply any style at all.
Figured you ought to know, it's giving me a headache whatever it is. Bug, CSS3 specification, whatever.
Anyway you ought to visit sometime, too. Just a thought. – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 06:20 Apr 30, 2011
Arc?[edit source]
Where'd it go? ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 03:45, 02 March 2012 03:45, March 2, 2012 (UTC)