User talk:Lyrithya/archive17

I have an idea

As there is a buch of UnNews daily, do you think adding 2 slots to the Template:Lead articles would be a good idea? I think so, because with 5 slots, the articles are basically staying there for 2 days only. I tried to expand it, but with my formidable 1337 skills it somehow didn't work. Mattsnow 22:52, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

As you can see in the move log, I moved it ti UnNews but it just doesn't appear on "current" events... the name is OK in a link UnNews:There's "gay" and then there's "Oscar de la Hoya gay" - an editorial by Bill O'Reilly, but you can see where that leads... Mattsnow 02:26, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Oooh, that's what you were getting at... in order for moved things to show up, you need to copy and paste them into the new location instead of moving them, since it's based on article creation date, not on date the article was moved. So just move it back to where it was and then recreate the page by pasting.

And as for the other thing, we could do that, but is two days really so bad? Only the best/most topical should probably wind up there anyway... 1234 ~ 02:44, 29 January 2012

Er... because it's an UnNews? I don't get it, when I userspace UnNews, everything's fine... Mattsnow 02:53, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

You can move them out, but you can't move them back into the UnNews space. It's a weird technical thing. Just do the copying thing to get them in there. 1234 ~ 03:30, 29 January 2012

OK, done. btw, when I type almost anything in the search box, like hall of shame, I get thrown off the site... Damn, things are not going well here tonight lol. Can you access hall of shame? I can't. :S Mattsnow 03:39, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

I can, but it's possible Wikia may have borked something again regardless. If it persists, let me know. Or let them know; they might even fix it. 1234 ~ 05:04, 29 January 2012

It persists, and I wanted to let Sannse know. Ironically, when I enter User:Sannse in the searh box, I also get thrown off the site to : Internet Explorer can't show the page (or something). I verified the connectivity (it's all fine), rebooted my modem and still same stuff. But I can access articles from the search box. I tried creating a link to HOS on my userpage: doesn't work. I tried searching a lot of stuff in the Wikipedia search box and no problem. *sigh* this is a brand new PC. Mattsnow 16:56, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

I have a suggestion... try not using Internet Explorer.

That said, I tried it in IE and it worked fine for me. What version of IE are you using? And what skin on Uncyclopedia?

Also nevermind that, if you want to report a bug to Wikia, use Special:Contact to contact them. There's a link to the general contact stuff at the bottom of every page, so it should be accessible. Dunno why it wouldn't be. Then again, I don't know what's wrong in general, so who knows. 1234 ~ 18:08, 29 January 2012

But say I take Google Chrome. Do I have to disinstall IE in my programs? Thank you for the help. Mattsnow 18:13, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Naw, you can have multiple browsers installed at once; Windows isn't that stupid. Yet. So just install chrome and/or firefox and/or whatever and then just use whichever one suits you, or something. 1234 ~ 18:20, 29 January 2012

Just because I felt like it-

Please excuse me I don't mean to be rude.... But tonight I'm HUGGING YOU! Scofield has deemed you worthy of a hug for some reason. Thus, you may now consider yourself hugged. At this point, you may also want to consider checking your pockets so as to ascertain that everything is still there.

--Scofield & Dudes 14:12, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Next time, please consider not being a dick in the first place. It is neither funny nor endearing. 1234 ~ 16:47, 29 January 2012

Since when did being a defensive prick and being a dick mean the same thing? --Scofield & Dudes 19:20, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean about being a 'defensive prick', but telling someone 'screw you' is just rude. Please do not do that. 1234 ~ 20:23, 31 January 2012

I just looked in both Urban dictionary and Wikipedia, and both prick and dick are defined as a slang term for penis. I don't recall a time when that wasn't the case. Adding the adjective defensive doesn't change the definition. So in answer to that question, pretty much always. Pup 10:57 31 Jan '12

I'm sure somewhere in there is an "appology accepted". --ShabiDOO 23:10, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Did you apologise in order to be forgiven, or because you had done the wrong thing? Pup 12:13 01 Feb '12

Perhaps it was so that someone considered themselves hugged! --ShabiDOO 18:30, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Happy Monkey

I've gotten this many requests to ask you to join the Happy Monkey contest Aleister 11:51 30-1-'12

Hi. After all that has gone on with the Happy Monkey contest I hope that you join in the fun. I remember, long ago in a land so far away, thank goddess, that you had a great article in the first one. The contest was born out of me stealing all the cookies from Happy Times's page and Happy Monkey trying to get them back, and so I feel a "There at the beginning" feeling about the contest, but it would be sad to participate without you. One of us, one of us. Aleister 11:52 30-1-'12

Sorry, man. Been a little busy lately. I'm sure it'll be crazy enough as it is, though. 1234 ~ 17:06, 30 January 2012

You could always give a score out of ten for each article (and you wouldn't even have to write a pee review). And you wouldn't even have to explain yourself. And then I would promise not to spam anything on your talk page for a long while, and Aleister would try as hard as he could not to whore anything out on your talk page. This is a deal of a life time! --ShabiDOO 17:29, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

If you are too busy to enter Happy Monkey maybe it's time to re-a-cc-ess your priorities. Administrative duties trumping Happy Monkey? Wha? And I haven't whored since 2010 except for the Madison Movement page and now...James Bevel. Read the James Bevel page, then drop everything and vote vote vote (use a few IP's, which would drive the vote higher). On a serious note, this would be a good page for uncy to feature, as it actually has history in it that can be found almost nowhere else, and never put together like this before. Whoring. And Happy Monkey calls from a distance, can you hear him monkey-chirping in the trees? Aleister 19:56 30-1-'12

Whoring, spam, priorities, whoring, James Bevel, happy, stuff, whoring, monkey, summer 2010--ShabiDOO 20:21, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry. If it makes you feel any better, I've not been adminning much, either. 1234 ~ 20:24, 31 January 2012

Hi.

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H74y5 19:00, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

More coding problems

Do you have any guides to how to create a layout, so that we can have some on the left page, and some on the right page? Also, this is for my User:Joe9320/Facebook project. |Si Plebius Dato' Joe ang Aussie CUN|IC Kill | 01:50, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Which is the left page, and which is the right? 1234 ~ 20:25, 31 January 2012

Does this help? Pup 10:50 31 Jan '12

Thanks, but how do I get that drop down menu like your page has?

|Si Plebius Dato' Joe ang Aussie CUN|IC Kill | 12:02, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Drop down menu?

• Something
• Something Else
• Something completely different

I have no idea. Pup 12:38 01 Feb '12

Actually a quick point on this. Lyrithya and I have disagreed on a minor point in relationship to this in the past and iPhone browser. For the drops own to work in the iPhone browser properly the text/image to activate it has to be a link or a fakelink. At the time I pointed it out there was a disagreement over wether we should work with this in mind. I say you should, as I can't access a drop down menu without it. In the above example it only works when I click the fakelink or the links in my sig on the phone, even though it will work on the plain text on most other browsers. To err on the side of caution I'd use a fakelink. Pup 12:49 01 Feb '12

In other words, we have to overcomplicate things for reasons of lack of wiki functionality. 1234 ~ 17:16, 1 February 2012

I just like to overcomplicate things myself. While we're on the topic, do you know how to hide/show sections without a hide/show link? (Last time I looked it couldn't be done without changing the sites js.) Pup 06:48 02 Feb '12

I think I added something to the site's js at some point. Check the AAN/adopters subpage; pretty sure it was in use there. 1234 ~ 06:57, 2 February 2012

Excellent! Thanks. Pup 09:28 02 Feb '12

Hey!

What's wrong with my new forum? I posted it in BHOP! And BHOP allows nonsense!--WELCOME TO UNCYCLOPEDIA HELL!!!! 09:26, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

It was even worse than the usual nonsense, and anyway my cat told me to. 1234 ~ 20:26, 31 January 2012

I remember...

...when this was all fields. Pup 11:03 31 Jan '12

I don't. 1234 ~ 20:26, 31 January 2012

Memory loss is a terrible thing. Pup 10:51 31 Jan '12

Is it? I can't tell. 1234 ~ 00:23, 1 February 2012

You broke it! Half the cool templates have gone. Pup 09:28 01 Feb '12

Two of them breaks the page, so unless it really happens to be a page voted for featuring twice for whatever reason, no point having two, man. 1234 ~ 17:15, 1 February 2012

Recount

Of course I demand a recount on uncy of the year. Zombiebaron 16, me 3. Close enough to count again. A third guy, Frosty, supposedly had "7" (seven, ha! Not even close to 3), and you who knows, no way to tell from all the things going on, but I surely think that I won fair and square and if someone would count the votes again that would become obvious. Viva la revolutionaire. Hunger strike, hunger strike. Oh look, an Almond Joy! 3:12 1-2-'12 (and I saw what you did there, nice)

No, actually, my cat won. Sorry. 1234 ~ 03:29, 1 February 2012

I voted for your cat, it was a great win for the people. And you are a classy person, if I may say so myself (I knew you'd do what you did and was watching, waiting, on recent changes, then there you were!) Now I have something to do which is very important. Aleister 3:37 2-1-'12

Do? What? Huh? How could you have known? Only ones I told were some folks on IRC, and that was out of paranoia for site-breaking. Except I don't think I ever really got to the breaking p... wait, what are we talking about? 1234 ~ 17:18, 1 February 2012

Congratulations and pine cones for you, Lyrithya. --Black Flamingo 00:45, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

PINE CONES?! 1234 ~ 01:01, 2 February 2012

Here's one!

Yeah, you did real good, picking up two major awards and then putting them down again. Congrats and well deserved. I'm still waiting for my recount, though. My victory cake is starting to run, and some of the sober guests are leaving. Well? /taps foot, looks at watch, eats recount cake Aleister 11:58 2-2-'12

Well, I was going to do something mean and nasty and evil at the last minute that would have made everyone hate me on the PotY one, but I forgot on account of being too busy socking for the UGotY one at the time. Then I ran out of time. Oops. As for your cake, well... yes. 1234 ~ 01:55, 3 February 2012

Please

Can you please unblock me back on irc, please? i promise there won't be anything like last november anytime soon. Please!--WELCOME TO UNCYCLOPEDIA HELL!!!! 09:00, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Dear god...what did you do in November? Whats with IRC and people going totally crazy? --ShabiDOO 18:40, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, man, what'd you do? That said, I've removed the ban - should you do anything untoward, expect to... uh, be banned again, I guess. 1234 ~ 01:57, 3 February 2012

Hurr durr.

Hello Lyrithya, I suppose you recall me? Unfortunately your sexy stupid systems won't let me list an article at QVFD (Super awesome lazer, nunchuck katana ninjas - pure stupidity/unfunny nonsense, though I suppose I'm even less funny), so I came here to ask you. I guess I'll have to wait. HF25 18:36, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

It's gone at the first hurdle. Thanks for your notification! --RomArtus*Imperator ® (Orate) 19:33, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, we've had vandalism problems in the past with the report areas, so apparently they're semiprotected (something about most of our new users sucking). You should be autoconfirmed in a couple days, though, and as the man says, thank you. 1234 ~ 01:59, 3 February 2012

Hello darling!

Problem: the latest UnNews doesn't show well at all on the saection on the right of the UnNews page. I don't know what happened. Could you be a so kind as to sort it out? Seems the guy added an UnNews the standard way... Mattsnow 01:45, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

MMM I'm thinking; maybe it's because he dated it for the 3rd and we're still the 2nd? Mattsnow 02:00, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

The guy put too many apostrophes in the title. Broke it. 1234 ~ 02:06, 3 February 2012

Same thing happened to my window :( Mattsnow 02:08, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Whoops. 1234 ~ 02:21, 3 February 2012

You huffed Absolute Power!?

Reading it just now is the first time I got it. I must be dense as a jerryrigged coal mine. Aleister 5:00 3-2-'12

I huff a lot of things. And that makes one of us. The getting it, that is, not the denseness. 1234 ~ 05:31, 3 February 2012

Would you mind moving it to Absolute power. The p really shouldn't be capitalised. Pup 12:58 03 Feb '12

Yes, I would. Someone might want to write an article about absolute power, or something. 1234 ~ 02:45, 4 February 2012

Yeah - after all the current page there has only been there untouched for 6.5 years - hardly any opportunity to write one at all. Pup 03:25 04 Feb '12

Exactly. 1234 ~ 04:21, 4 February 2012

Can you unban me on IRC

I'll stop pretending to be you. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) 06:50, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

DON'T DO IT! Take a stand against that despicable behavior and ban him from the wiki too! That'll teach that little scullywag! :P Mattsnow 08:29, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Come on, I said I'll stop being you. I never said I'd stop being Mattsnow. I've always been Mattsnow and nobody has caught on. It's been hard maintaining two accounts and doing all that award getting by juggling a sockpuppet, but I've done it, and now I can't keep it up anymore and have to admit it. Don't be mad, being Mattsnow has been fun. Someone else take him over now. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!)

I take my sockpuppet account Mattsnow when I want to sound wise and all. :P Mattsnow 14:55, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

See? And then I quickly revert back to Frosty when I have to pretend to be Lyrithya. It's too complicated for two people, let alone three, to keep straight in my head. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!)

• So there's only one thing left to do:

{{construction}}

Er... okay. 1234 ~ 16:22, 3 February 2012

This

UnNews:Police search for sceptical vandal. It smells of vanity to me. Pup 01:03 04 Feb '12

And why does my edit count say I've edited 9 Undebate pages on all wikis, but 37 on Uncyc? Stupid Wikia. Pup 01:18 04 Feb '12

And I can remove my votes however I like, thank you. Pup 01:19 04 Feb '12

Smells of not funny to me. An IRC cabal agreed, but Mattsnow already stuck it on the thingies, so what's a girl to do? You could do something, though. You're bigger than I am. And as for the editcount, it's generally... okay, it's probably broken. And sure, you can remove them however you like, but it's still impolite to break templates and formatting and whatnot, to the point where excessiveness could get you banned. Then again, too much of anything could get one banned. Too many kittens, for instance, could get one banned if we had wikilove here. Aren't you glad we don't have wikilove? Perhaps wikihate would work, though. Yes... spread messages of hatred and loathing... 1234 ~ 02:44, 4 February 2012

I only have two kittens at the moment, if you count my girlfriend. And I'm going to forgive you for editing my vote on the understanding if it happens again you're going straight to UN:BP. And I'll insist that PIGGY be the one that bans you, and won't that be embarrassing. Pup 03:31 04 Feb '12

Okay. 1234 ~ 04:23, 4 February 2012

I think I have now been banned about the same number of times as I have banned, not counting IP bans. Not a bad record really. Pup 03:11 04 Feb '12

Does your IP get blocked a lot? 1234 ~ 18:50, 4 February 2012

Half a dozen times over three years. Mainly when I decide to screw around with a sockpuppet. Pup 12:03 05 Feb '12

Your sockpuppets get banned? 1234 ~ 00:20, 5 February 2012

I get bored of them so I make them vandalise RDBs user page as a form of suicide. Pup 12:27 05 Feb '12

How boring. 1234 ~ 02:04, 5 February 2012

UnNews thing

I knew I was right! I userspaced it at first, but the user was really pissed and it's an old user, he won the foolitzer prize at some point. I tried to have a 2nd opinion on IRC but nobody was there so decided to move the article back by changing the date to calm him down, I mean, I don't want to discourage people from editing and at that point I told myself "Well, maybe it's just me that don't find it funny." See the conversation I had with him. Mattsnow 08:49, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

There's often something to it when you don't find something funny. Not always, but a third opinion does usually help, so waiting might be in order next time - especially in the case of an article that ain't terribly timely like that. Ah, well. 1234 ~ 16:30, 5 February 2012

Yuh

Somebody has awarded you a cookie! Now go play in traffic.

--UU - natter 12:50, Feb 5

What's all this, then? I mean, thanks, but... what? *eyes it suspiciously* 1234 ~ 16:31, 5 February 2012

I iz having a kweschthionn

When one creates a redirect, shall that page befall under numerable circumstances, O Queen of Wisdom? Translation: when someone creates a redirect, does it count as an article, therefore inflating the number of total articles we have? :P (currently ~29,500) Mattsnow 03:52, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Yes. Also, this isn't my talkpage, although I do like being referred to as royalty. Pup 04:32 06 Feb '12

It really counts? o_0 Damn, that huffing madness has to stop, soon, they'll delete AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. Mattsnow 04:41, February 6, 2012 (UTC) Also, sig doesn't work, Pup. :P

Sig works. It looks like a sig that doesn't work. And it does add to the total article count because technically they are articles. There is a way to count just redirects which would give us a more accurate figure, but fucked if I can remember what it is. Mind you, when you compare our level of articles versus Wikipedia, we really have no issue. Pup 04:44 06 Feb '12

There's a total page count, a content page count, a redirect count, a disambiguation page count, namespace-specific counts, and counts of large yaks, and various other counts. Most of them have bugs, however, so even if you can find the magic words, don't expect any of them to be remotely accurate. 1234 ~ 06:28, 6 February 2012

Is there a featured disambig count? Pup 08:52 06 Feb '12

I'm sure you could make one. 1234 ~ 15:40, 6 February 2012

Thank you both for answering the kweschthionn! Mattsnow 15:50, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Uncyclopedia:Pee Review/HowTo:Be Happy

Still showing up on the current PEEs list. I have no idea why. Pup 12:22 06 Feb '12

Probably server lag; doesn't seem to be there now. 1234 ~ 15:39, 6 February 2012

Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Chrome Crapper

You are a great piss master! For your achievement of over 100 in-depth pee reviews, we bestow upon you this lavish and shiny chrome-plated crapper. Keep the streams flowing!

---

Thanks a zillion for doing an absurd amount of high-quality reviews, here is your toilet (keep the change). You are now a part of an increasingly less elite group. Help yourself to crisps. Wow... I remember when you awarded this to me (actually, not really) and now I am proud to return the honour. Don't stop now! --Black Flamingo 22:35, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

And thank you for actually checking the tables and stuff. I plead laziness. 1234 ~ 23:58, 7 February 2012

Utmost importance

I am really glad for all the tips you gave metoday, my experience here is improved! You are great. Since I am always concerned about this great wiki that I really like, I just left a message on Romartus's talk page you may want to take a look at. Kind of important stuff to me. Mattsnow 02:47, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Needs more cowbell. 1234 ~ 23:58, 7 February 2012

Hello

Could you please hack up File:Mcdonalds wideweb 470x307,0.jpg as it is now used on America is the best!!! Thanks. -- Sir Xam Ralco the Mediocre 23:31, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Done. In the future it would be easier if you link it (not as file link, but with a :), though. 1234 ~ 23:57, 7 February 2012

Forum:User rights

I've floated an idea at the base of this forum. I'm not too fussed if you're for or against it, but I'd appreciate your feedback. Pup 09:10 08 Feb '12

If it doesn't involve a very large mattress, I'm against it. 1234 ~ 09:11, 8 February 2012

Kinky. Pup 09:48 08 Feb '12

*crushes PotR with a large mattress* 1234 ~ 17:00, 8 February 2012

Emph ont fer firmph dayme Pup 12:22 09 Feb '12

Sorry? I couldn't quite make that out. ~☣ 01:36, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, ma'am

I got your message and I'll try not to make the same mistake again. I'm very sorry, ma'am. I swear I learned my lesson. Please don't delete me (just yet).

Thank you, and as I said before, I'm sorry Lyrithya, I swear I didn't know better. I promise to not do again, or at least not until I become an admin.

-Sir Matthew Philip Matthlock, Attorney at Law LLC, 1-800-MTT-HLCK (Give me a call!) 00:45, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Good. Thank you. 1234 ~ 01:49, 11 February 2012

VFH

Could you remove the line Any and all violators of policy will be 99'd. from VFH for me please? Pup 02:00 11 Feb '12

Ignore that. Pup 02:03 11 Feb '12

Huh? 1234 ~ 02:03, 11 February 2012

I had a transclusion of a transclusion that I didn't realise was editable at first. I have now edited it. I really do dislike the random templates at times. Pup 02:09 11 Feb '12

Okay. 1234 ~ 23:46, 14 February 2012

Can you help me delete my account

and any ids or logs or even history? Thank you. Hholt01 13:13, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

I've deleted your userpage and talkpage, but if you want the account itself to disappear, you'll have to talk to sannse. We can't actually delete accounts, but she might be willing to rename it to something inconspicuous. 1234 ~ 23:49, 14 February 2012

Section numbering

Fun question for you. With the faux header templates ({{h2}}, {{h3}}, etc.), when we last edited them, we deliberately left out section numbers, as that was one of the reasons why they were tweaked that way. I recently used one on an article, and didn't add a section number in the text deliberately. The issue is if someone has not chosen in preferences to hide the section numbers, the lack of those sticks out like a sore thumb. (Macintosh is the article I was playing with.)

So, in a nutshell, I'm trying to work out what makes a section number display and what makes it hidden. My assumption is that the section numbers are in a span with a class that is either hidden or not hidden depending on preferences, and that by putting numbers in a span of abc class will hide them. I can't access the HTML from my phone to check this though. Could you find out if my assumption is correct for me, and if it is, let me know what the class is?

I hope that you can understand what the hell I'm failing to articulate. Pup 11:06 12 Feb '12

This is section 28, by the way. Pup 11:07 12 Feb '12

Don't worry about it. I was wrong in what I was thinking as far as I can tell, and it's done through parser side. Never mind. Pup 10:53 13 Feb '12

Okay. 1234 ~ 23:51, 14 February 2012

Lyrithya

Hello Gorgeous!!! --Martin Seamus McFly 12:02, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Hello yourself. But this isn't actually my talk page. Pup 10:54 13 Feb '12

Okay. 1234 ~ 23:51, 14 February 2012

Hi?

What is a sabbatical? (Don't bother calling me a noob. I know, I know.) --Me 23:29, February 14, 2012 (UTC)

I think that's a fancy name for leaving for a bit. Or forever. Or something. People do that on sabbats or something. 1234 ~ 23:52, 14 February 2012

Ahhh... Ok, but if you are on a sabbatical, then how have you posted? --Me 11:17, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

She posts from her Sabbatical-Mobile. You know, the one she keeps in the Sabbatical-Cave. ~ BB ~ (T) ~ Wed, Feb 15 '12 11:31 (UTC)

Excuse me, but I object to this mention of forever! Pup 11:43 15 Feb '12

Ohh right. Hmmm... anyone want me to pester any other users aimlessly? I hope that wasn't too much links... --Me 20:07, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

Feel free to pester anyone you like. Pup 10:10 15 Feb '12

Awww I can't see the sabbatical cave? --Me 17:31, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

Yes. No. Huh? 1234 ~ 07:33, 18 February 2012

He wants to see you naked. I'm sorry, Lyrithya, but I don't see any way out of this. ~ BB ~ (T) ~ Sat, Feb 18 '12 7:54 (UTC)

Good angle for that photo. I think I can see the way out though. Pup 09:22 18 Feb '12

Hmmm..... Well now that Bizzeebeever has brought it up, I'll let this conversation continue on it's normal course...but I still want to see the Sabbatical-cave--Me 15:01, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Its. 1234 ~ 17:39, 18 February 2012

Um...

“Pentium5dot1 is this awesome fellow that people really like to forget about for some reason, so it's no surprise that nobody remembered to update this template this month and add him here for almost three weeks, especially when he was the only new winner from last month. Seriously, those two above are just there because nobody else won, or something. You all suck.”

~ Lyrithya

Xamralco, Johnny Appleseed and I all thank you for your care and consideration. ~ BB ~ (T) ~ Sun, Feb 19 '12 4:08 (UTC)

Cheers. 1234 ~ 04:14, 19 February 2012

Lollipop

Why did Lollipop request a three month ban Lyrithya? Was he plea bargaining or wants to make sure he stays away from this site for three months? I checked the user page and no message there. Thanks. --RomArtus*Imperator ® (Orate) 17:07, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Seemed he just wanted a reminder to stay away. Should he at any point change his mind and want to be unblocked he is of course welcome to it, however. Should I add a note of that to the summary? 1234 ~ 17:28, 19 February 2012

Usually when a user goes away we put a template on that person's page otherwise people will be still leaving messages. Your block message was clear that it was the user's request. Romartus Hoc fecit. --RomArtus*Imperator ® (Orate) 20:02, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

What does hoc fecit mean? 1234 ~ 17:42, 22 February 2012

Romartus Made This. I was watching a programme about a medieval artist who signed his work 'hoc fecit' in stone under a sculpture group in church. On the left (God's right hand) were the saved and on the right The Damned. The Saved and Sinners, the Slaves and the Sysops...--RomArtus*Imperator ® (Orate) 11:41, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

So am I the saved or the sinner? Pup 11:50 23 Feb '12

Yes. Also, some of your signature variants are too long, PotR. Tell me, was there a large maw involved? Them madievals liked their animal imagery, as I understand it. 1234 ~ 15:05, 23 February 2012

The signature variants are within the 55x when you exclude the timestamp, I think. (Except for the one I just removed.) Pup 09:53 23 Feb '12

Removed a second variant. Should all be fine now. Pup 10:03 23 Feb '12

Broken sig? What broken sig? Pup 10:05 23 Feb '12

Due to server lag and caching, your clever time-ago mechanism is also usually completely wrong. 1234 ~ 01:26, 25 February 2012

I Have Good News

R & D money well spent. --Sir Oliphaunte (განხილვა)   05:10, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

Very. 1234 ~ 17:47, 22 February 2012

Hahaha, how can a cat get stuck in a little box? Hahaha, Oliphaunte, I believe you don't really know cats. Cats could never ever get stuck in small box like th...

What the meow? I'm... I'm STUCK! No! These ultimately large walls... I.. I CAN'T ESCAPE!!! AAAAAAA! Get me out of this box I'm stuck heeeeellppp!!! OMG!!! It`s Cat the Colourful, Jesus Christ!!! 08:03 24 February 2012

Just jump. The traps mainly just play upon the apathy and laziness of the cats. 1234 ~ 01:27, 25 February 2012

*Oliphaunte puts a box on Lyrithya's head. --Sir Oliphaunte (განხილვა)   00:32, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

*panics* 1234 ~ 03:39, 7 March 2012

Mozilla Firefox fix tag

You put a {{fix}} tag on the Mozilla Firefox article. Would reverting the article to a featured version address your complaints? Why (not)? --Pentium5dot1 (semi-retired) t~^_^~c 04:24, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

It'd certainly help, but honestly that version could use some fixing up as well, at very least in the presentation department. That said, fixes on features don't expire, so having a fix on it in either form should hopefully lead to improvements... eventually. Probably. It is one that plausibly could be fixed, at very least, and probably without too much trouble. It's features like Senator that I don't have any idea what could be done about them.

I guess just... do whatever you feel best? 1234 ~ 17:51, 22 February 2012

You seem to know more about this then anyone else I know.

Does this indicate we have message wall and related video namespaces? Pup 04:16 24 Feb '12

It means Wikia don't know how to write extensions. But yes, they're there. 1234 ~ 01:28, 25 February 2012

Hi

I haven't heard of you much lately. Bet you haven't heard of me much lately. And bet you will never will.

Okay, that wasn't the real meaning of my existense right here and right now. If you'll happen to read the forum about april fool jokes, don't ban me. Please. It was all just a joke. I don't want to blow you with a nuclear bomb. No, of course not. And the thing about that redirect thing... Just a joke. Please don't ban me.

How are your cat/cats? OMG!!! It`s Cat the Colourful, Jesus Christ!!! 07:52 24 February 2012

I been dead lately. You been dead? Being dead no fun. I miss cats. >.< 1234 ~ 01:29, 25 February 2012

Horrible forum

OMG!!! I just came across this terrible forum where someone suggests to nuke all admins!!!!! D: Something must be done about that particular terrorist! Mattsnow 10:02, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

Tell him the nukes are in the back shed. 1234 ~ 01:30, 25 February 2012

Mattsnow... you're talking about my wonderful idea. Meh I'm not a someone. Guess what? I'm mad. You will, from now on, talk about me as your lord. Your holy saviour who saves you from the world's end which is very near. Actually there's a one right over your house, falling down to it's target. Lyri, where's the bombs? There's only fireworks here. Is this somekind of a joke or what? And what do you mean you're not an admin and therefore I can't explode you? I don't care. We'll make you to an admin, and then BOOM BAW PHEOOMWHB you're dust. My cruel evil pan. Plan. Clake. That's how cruel I am. MWAHAHBWAFRAHAGAJAKJAHAHKS! OMG!!! It`s Cat the Colourful, Jesus Christ!!! 19:42 25 February 2012

I bow before you, evil master! Mattsnow 20:07, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not a bowl. OMG!!! It`s Cat the Colourful, Jesus Christ!!! 08:12 26 February 2012

Pic fix tag

Hello possum friend. I notice your making hundreds of fix tag templates, and among them is one for not having pics. We have a tag for that already, and it's not in the fix category, so I fear that that would move it into the fix category, and you know what happens there. Tag, you're it, is a deadly game in this place. Aleister 22:00 25-2-'12

Different fix tags go into different categories or sub-cats. I think pic fix keeps it out of the 30 days and counting. And having a unified tag makes more sense from a site standpoint. Pup 11:16 25 Feb '12

Yeah. Only some of them lead to deletion anyway. The AAP isn't technically a {{fix}}, but listing it with the stuff to fix does make sense on account of it being something to fix, no? Same with the expansion. 1234 ~ 23:34, 25 February 2012

But that puts it on the chopping block, where it doesn't belong. It's like convicting an innocent person of infraticide and then throwing them into Oz. And have you seen the wonderful policy page UN:10COM? Yay. Aleister 23:41 25-2-'12

Nah, it doesn't. It's a technical thingy. Pup 11:50 25 Feb '12

Hello

This abuse filter thing that blocks users, seems to have a liking for banning large amounts of IPs, example 188.11.0.0/16, given the fact its 65,536 different addresses I for one think that infinitely banning them is going to have some bad sides to it, like affecting a legit contributor. Can something be done to abuse filter so that only blocks annoying sock vandals temporarily, a month say? ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) 06:32, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the heads up. The filter is doing exactly what it's supposed to, and while indeed the blocks shouldn't be indefinite, the software is just... dumb, so someone does need to shorten the blocks afterwards. Someone else can do that, though. I'm going to bed. 1234 ~ 07:05, 27 February 2012

Thats the way. Blame the software. :D ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) 07:14, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for removing (you know what) on my talk page. I truly appreciate it. :) -- UserTalkContributions 22:45, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Cheers. Didn't actually look, but you know. 1234 ~ 22:47, 27 February 2012

Quickie

Are we able to amend namespaces or is it a purely Wikia decision. Pup 12:25 01 Mar '12

They have to do the doing, but if it's a matter of typo or the like or something which has community consensus, they'll usually do it provided we have a big enough stick. 1234 ~ 00:39, 1 March 2012

Ah, good, you dropped in

On the VFD thing of an established award, what are the precedents you speak of? The award has 42 winners, has been established for a long time, etc. VFD is not a very populated page, it is really not a community wide bugle of something going down in 24 hours. So I shall contend that the Goldstein award should not be huffed there, even though SPIKE has not come around to pipe in. He seems to have some kind of ptsd. Anyway, precedents? Thanks. Aleister 1:09 4-3-'12 and I need to go on ?pedia more.

Closing official pages in general, I dunno. Apparently they did that with UN:POOP, probably the most recent, although I don't disagree that a forum might be a better place for that sort of thing... 1234 ~ 01:51, 4 March 2012

If I were trying to close an official award I doubt I'd put it on VFD. It's more likely to survive there then it would in a forum. Besides, there are a few let's change everything forums around at the moment - putting this on VFD was possibly the wiser way to approach this. Pup 02:27 04 Mar '12

Perhaps you should make a Forum:Let's change everything. 1234 ~ 02:30, 4 March 2012

Funny you should say that, as I have a few ideas... Pup 03:23 04 Mar '12

Let's delete everything, too. 1234 ~ 04:16, 4 March 2012

Everything except A wizard did it. Have to protect our in-jokes. Pup 04:24 04 Mar '12

Especially delete in-jokes. 1234 ~ 05:02, 4 March 2012

Ahhhhh (/screaming, tearing hair out, putting that hair into a sack and sinking the sack in a river, running from police you said with authority on the nom "There is precedent!" when there is no such precedent. LLPOF, NALAATW. And just because forums are running wild now (after the fact imnho) doesn't mean that a clear forum title wouldn't have attracted more people to the question of keeping or saving one of uncy's 10 major awards. Won 42 times. Most users don't go to VFD. I seem to like and go all wacky about fairness, and this tactic to huff an award some people love--it's all we have left of the man SPIKE used to be, for example--isn't fair, imnho. Aleister 10:58 4-3-'12

Just because I don't know where something is doesn't make it not so; I haven't the time nor the energy to be so close to things as to keep track. Not healthy anyhow. 1234 ~ 20:06, 5 March 2012

Please restore [Page]

It was a WIP deleted only 1 day after creation.

The template mess was for the lulz. James1011R (talk) 03:22, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

WIP'd articles with very little work put into them, or hope for them, can still be huffed. For example, something with a headache-inducing title that I suppose is supposed to be a parody of the Main Page that's just a bunch of template spam - well, that's been done a million times before, frankly, and it's never funny. Even if it actually was the Main Page. – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 03:54 Mar 05, 2012

It was supposed to be an article bashing people who suck at external links. This should have been kept. It was nothing like the main page. James1011R (talk) 03:57, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

Aside from the title, I'm not sure how "A BUNCH OF TEMPLATES LOL" is satire of people who are bad at links. – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 05:17 Mar 05, 2012

It's meta-humour. Pup 05:29 05 Mar '12

In that it's not humor? – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 06:10 Mar 05, 2012

Like silence is the alternative to alternative music. Pup 07:17 05 Mar '12

Yeah, man, some things just don't work. If, however, you still want to give it a try, you're welcome to work on it in your userspac and put it through pee review. Should I undelete it for that? 1234 ~ 17:20, 5 March 2012

I was hoping for it to be in userspace draft form so I can work on it without risk of a deletion, and maybe a better title even, such as just Http://en.uncyclopedia.co. James1011R (talk) 19:35, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

Done. Good luck. 1234 ~ 20:05, 5 March 2012

Pee on your Goddess

The Imperial Colonization Discordianism has been Pee Reviewed. I have no authority anymore to tell anyone to do anything, but check it out anyway! Uncyclopedia:Pee Review/Discordianism (2) User:Why do I need to provide this?/sig10 03:28, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

I wish I understood that article... 1234 ~ 17:19, 5 March 2012

UOTM voting and stuff

I raised the issue of voting against users receiving awards a while ago and Zombiebaron made it clear that no discussion is needed on the issue because there is no issue, it is simply you know not allowed. Not meaning to sound bitchy or rude, but it kinda saddens me to think you actually wrote a lengthy paragraph about why Joe shouldn't win it, when you could have just as easily dedicated your energy in to something more positive like an equally as lengthy paragraph as to why someone else SHOULD win the award. I mean this in the nicest way possibly, but UOTM is not VFH, the voting is on real people who have real feelings and might actually get discouraged and hurt when someone writes something like that about them when they could have voted on someone else. I know its in your nature to be critical sometime, but come on, he may not do a lot but he's a nice enough guy and doesn't deserve a rant like that :) ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) 10:20, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

It is allowed and it has always been allowed, to my knowledge. I have no idea where people got the idea that it wasn't, but Zombiebaron was in error at the time and this was made clear. And mon, I'm sure Joe is a lovely guy and all, but it's pretty telling about the current state of the website that people are seriously considering him as a candidate at this stage. The fellow is a gobshite of the highest order, and showing the will to improve does not change that inherently, though it does show the will to improve. If this continues, and learns along the way, that is when he would deserve an award. Meantime, actual encouragement and meaningful feedback would be far more useful than dumping something that used to mean something on what the mob has decided is the only guy left. Thing is, there is simply no reason why someone needs to win every month; if we have no deserving candidates, we have no deserving candidates, and Joe is definitely not deserving at this point. Sorry, but that's just how I feel on the matter, although if he reads this, I hope he will take it for what it is, a view on the now, and continue to work on his contributions instead of getting discouraged-like.

The thing is, Frosty, you just can't get very far only encouraging folks. Useful feedback cannot be entirely positive, and some things do fail. Our failures are a large part of how we learn. Recall your own failures... and recall your successes. Which taught more? Would the successes have meant as much without the failures? 1234 ~ 17:18, 5 March 2012

Actually, I take that back - it's not that there's nobody deserving, just that people have been mobbing as a... what was it the guy called it? A group of bloody loonies? It's like they're latching onto the first idea they see and not actually looking at anything else. I looked and came up with a whole list of people who might deserve it:

• Ajraddatz (talk) – contribs (new • del) • edit-count • block (rem • list) • all logs • groups • checkuser
• 15Mickey20 (talk) – contribs (new • del) • edit-count • block (rem • list) • all logs • groups • checkuser
• Oliphaunte (talk) – contribs (new • del) • edit-count • block (rem • list) • all logs • groups • checkuser
• Matthlock (talk) – contribs (new • del) • edit-count • block (rem • list) • all logs • groups • checkuser
• Matfen (talk) – contribs (new • del) • edit-count • block (rem • list) • all logs • groups • checkuser
• Scofield (talk) – contribs (new • del) • edit-count • block (rem • list) • all logs • groups • checkuser
• Jonny appleseed (talk) – contribs (new • del) • edit-count • block (rem • list) • all logs • groups • checkuser
• Iwillkillyou333 (talk) – contribs (new • del) • edit-count • block (rem • list) • all logs • groups • checkuser
• Funnybony (talk) – contribs (new • del) • edit-count • block (rem • list) • all logs • groups • checkuser
• Ferric AlFerrous (talk) – contribs (new • del) • edit-count • block (rem • list) • all logs • groups • checkuser

But apparently looking is too difficult for people, and meantime the only way to put a  For. for the lot is an against regardless. 1234 ~ 18:15, 5 March 2012

Good list, keep it around. I nommed Joe because of the SOPA protest, which was an international success and he inspired our getting involved in it. That's a damn fine thing to have done, so I looked into his other work and saw the contest he started, his eager participation in idea making and group bonding (that Goat Se clan thing was at least an attempt at greatly improving the wiki), and his long service here, so I did put some thought into it and was not just drawing a name from a hat (a bowler, with a brim for palming cards). After Joe kicked off the SOPA thing, you and I and a few other people took it and ran with it, but imnho that's one of the "biggest" things to happen around here in the past couple of months. Aleister 18:22 5-3-'12

I would add Zarbag (talk) – contribs (new • del) • edit-count • block (rem • list) • all logs • groups • checkuser. --RomArtus*Imperator ® (Orate) 18:38, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

The contest he started caused more harm than good to the wiki, forced considerable admin intervention and resulted in at least one user getting indefinitely banned. The SOPA thing, on the other hand... did you know ideas are worthless, by themselves? Everybody has ideas; doesn't mean a thing if they haven't the will, skill, or experience to carry the right ones out, to test them and to take criticism and to reevaluate and redesign them until they have something tangible. Do you know who came up with the actual thing we used for the blackout? It was me. After all the discussion around the place, random users haunting forums tossing around ideas for the past few weeks, something like ten hours before the thing itself, I was told on IRC to actually do something. Thus I sorted through some of the more recent ideas people had thrown around, I looked at the test wikipedia, at the forum, at the backlogs on IRC, and then I decided what to actually do, and I bloody did it. I had help, of course - Sannse's text provided the substance, and the test wikipedia provided the format, but I still had to actually make it happen. Got a totally crazy idea as to how to put it on the site and spent the next while fighting with the sitenotice, which sort of worked. It was Olipro finally came to all our aid and fixed that.

People have ideas all the time. This is why blogs are so popular, why people enjoy talking about things so much, and complaining about things, and saying, this could be better if ___, but they don't mean anything unless people actually do something with them. This is why Twitter and Google are successful - folks had ideas and then made them happen, they got feedback and improved them, they tossed the worse ideas out (rather like how we didn't blank any of the articles themselves as Joe suggested), and thus they succeeded. Similarly people have ideas for what to write, too, and these ideas are not worth a thing if they never actually write them. When you take a title and turn it into a masterpiece, that is when the title attains its worth, and it is your writing that is the worth, not the idea, but the implementation. And it is generally the implementation that is the hard part.

Romartus: Yeah, he's a good one. Content contributors are so underrated these days, but without them the wiki ain't squat. 1234 ~ 21:16, 5 March 2012

I agree with everything you say, yet, like you, I know the part I played in the SOPA process here, and I wouldn't have done it if Joe hadn't both inspired me and challenged me to research it. Of course I know the job you did with the template chop, the best I saw that day, and you deserve two or three of those feather in the cap things. So my nomination comes from a personal perspective of what Joe did to encourage me, and then I saw was occurred up line from there. Aleister 22:51 5-3-'12

Of course you're welcome to nominate and vote for whoever you feel is most deserving, and if you want to support his efforts, good. Efforts are worth supporting, and while I don't think he deservers an award at this point, well, he probably will in time. Really, are we have here are views and I explained mine. You explained yours... man, we do a lot of explaining around here. Do people ever put that much effort into writing anymore? 1234 ~ 03:42, 7 March 2012

Actually, Aleister is a giant prolific contributors to the wiki...he puts lots of effort into writing. Chiefjustice is probably the most respected admin here. Frosty is one of the most hard working patrollers/worker bee/nominator/caretaker/Uuber-uncyclopedian, Mattsnow is the new cornerstone of UnNews and all of them are a little of everything else. Lyrithya, none of those users are bandwagon-hopping lazy mindless pithy drones who can't think for themselves nor have a solid point of view behind their nom and voting. I find these lines more and more painful to read each time. Just as Skullthumper had to ban me for me to come down a level and respect these competitive votes against Joe, I wish you'd reconsider discrediting chunks of the community like this. I'm going to do my best to scale back my agressive approach to voting for admins, your advice on my talk page, disagreements about policy, evolution and change on the wiki. Could you please please reconsider that attitude and perhaps focus on a proactive one? For example, would you consider joining me in trying to get nOObs to stick around more for example? You seem to be one of the only members who seemed to get what I was talking about on the forum. --ShabiDOO 05:02, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

I think the point there was not saying that people don't write, but that this drama should be over and done with. Or, in short, just drop it already. Pup 06:20 07 Mar '12

What PotR said. And yeah, most folks do good things, but that doesn't mean they always think things through. All those people... oh well. More to the point, y'all get off my talkpage! Sorry, I don't mean that. I've just really wanted to say that sometime. o__o But I guess this has all wound down anyway so that wasn't the most opportune moment for it regardless. 1234 ~ 05:56, 9 March 2012

The following is a test, please ignore

ZARK – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 01:32 Mar 06, 2012

Frood. 1234 ~ 03:42, 7 March 2012

Pee Review

Joe 9320 is second and third for February. I cleverly think there's a fuck up. Mattsnow 04:23, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand. That thing says 1/1 and 2/3, the table says 2/3, but the maintenance thing says only 1/3 of them was marked as in-depth? 1234 ~ 03:45, 7 March 2012

NotM

I'm fairly sure the 30 +/- 3 rule has been lifted. At least it's no longer showing on the page. If it hasn't, then the last nom I did is also invalid. Pup 04:14 09 Mar '12

That's odd; all the rules seem to have been removed. Was there a vote somewhere that I completely missed? 1234 ~ 04:19, 9 March 2012

There was some sort of consensus reached about this at the Abolish NotM forum. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 04:29, 9 March 2012

FU edit conflict. And what he said. Pup 04:39 09 Mar '12

There was? I thought people were just coming up with ideas at this point. 1234 ~ 05:58, 9 March 2012

I think it was TKF who made the change, but not sure. It's one that has been contentious for a while. Pup 06:58 09 Mar '12

You know, it's things like this that make people like Shabidoo think it's fine to do things like that thing on UotM... 1234 ~ 09:01, 9 March 2012

Hmmm. It might be an idea to talk to TKF of you think he acted too presumptively. Pup 09:27 09 Mar '12

Probably; I'm just don't wanna. Too much drama. I think I'll climb a tree instead. 1234 ~ 09:41, 9 March 2012

Cool. I'm just going to laze around in a bathtub full of lukewarm custard. If you get hungry later let me know and I'll save you some. Pup 09:45 09 Mar '12

Diffs

Could you make the diffs lighter and harder to read please? I can still just barely make out what is provided. Mister Victim (talk) 22:33, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

Good. I'll work on them later. 1234 ~ 01:26, 10 March 2012

My signature

Has had a bit of a facelift, so that it's similar to what it was before, but has a more appropriate timestamp. And does span title count in signature length? Pup 03:01 12 Mar '12

Okay - that was just completely rude. You know that I'm happy to change my signature as soon as you ask - in fact I did. I'm happy to remove the span titles (as I'm assuming that's what your issue is) and changed it to a static time signature - something that has never been referred to in any policy on signatures, and is still not included in UN:SIG. And I've done it simply to be nice to you, as nobody else on this wiki has made a single complaint about the relative time signature in the past. Please restore the signature, and I'll remove the span titles, if that is your concern. Otherwise, tell me what your issue is, given it was a static time stamp on the signature. Especially given that this hasn't even had you saying a single word on it. – Preceding unsigned comment added by PuppyOnTheRadio (talk • contribs) Mon, 12 Mar 2012 03:52:16

This has nothing to do with the span titles. I am just sick and tired of arguing with you about your signature, and yes, it is arguing; had you been willing to change it for the asking you would have ditched the dynamic thing the first time I asked you to several months ago, not argued over it to the point where I just gave up so you'd go away. As for UN:SIG, do you seriously expect us to somehow divine and list every possible bad thing people could come up with, from fixed position objects to embedded flash to sound to marquee to popups to browser-specific functions to who the hell knows what else? We have better things to do, and after some amount of specification, it really just comes down to common sense, and when that fails, asking people to change it. Similarly, when the thing says to include a timestamp, it's supposed to be common sense that that means a complete date and time, and a readable date and time at that, not in some random order or in wingdings or what have you, because that's just not useful as a timestamp.

So just stop it, please. I've restored your signature, but seriously, enough is enough. Stop trying to make all the weirdest things you can, do something normal, and instead waving around your e-penis all special-like, actually do something useful like your userpage would indicate you do. 1234 ~ 04:14, 12 March 2012

Are you guys actually sweating bullets over timestamps? What the actual fuck -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​UU​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 04:18, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

It has a non-dynamic timestamp. It's a Unix time code as explained here. As for the signature argument, I changed this several times when asked, and the most recent change was to do the very thing you asked for and have it display the date and time in a clear format. I'm no longer going to use it as a signature going forward, simply to keep you happy. I've decided that from now on though I couldn't be buggered being polite to you over this any more, or in fact in relationship to anything else. And as for doing something useful - have you even looked at what has happened to the number of articles waiting for review recently, or the number of n00bs that I've been encouraging to continue writing and grow on here? This is not your website so could you please extricate your head from whatever darkened pit you've decided to ram it into while at the same time wailing Oh pity me being the only person who does anything around here, and actually realise that there is an entire community around here who make this place work - you and I are actually only an extremely minor part of it - if we never appeared here again in three days people would barely remember our names. This is actually taking me away from doing exactly what you've asked me to do, because of your - and only your - minor inconvenience over one small thing. – Preceding unsigned comment added by PuppyOnTheRadio (talk • contribs) Mon, 12 Mar 2012 04:28:57 +0000

Apologies

I crossed the line there. Sorry. PR 05:27 12-03-12

Thank you for realising that; I likewise apologise for deleting your signature instead of continuing to attempt to discuss matters with you.

Now please, fix your signature so that it identifies you by more than your annoyingness - while that has gotten to be a defining enough feature that it does technically qualify under the rules in UN:SIG, it's still annoying. And the timestamp likewise remains ambiguous, as on many days there will simply be no way to tell which thing is the day, month, or year without looking at the history, which as previously stated defeats the purpose of having a timestamp in the first place. (While it may be apparent to you that it is in a particular format, it won't be to others - that's why identifiers like BB uses, such as commas and spelling out part of the monthname, and if the year is shortened, using a ', are so useful. Could be american format, normal format, or computer people format for all we know otherwise.)

And yes, I am well aware my own timestamps have not been the best in this regard, for which I can only apologise to anyone who has tried to discern them. 1234 ~ 09:41, 12 March 2012

Uh, pot v kettle re identifying? Pup ·

"You know that I'm happy to change my signature as soon as you ask..." 1234 ~ 11:10, 12 March 2012

Yeah. Difference there is I'm not telling others how to behave. Pup 11:13 12 Mar '12

Oh, and just for curiousities sake - Forum:Timestamp Help. Pup 12:08 12 Mar '12

Apologies

Huge trousers.

For perhaps crossing the line by giving you a temporaty deopping there. Of course, there's no other reasonable way to discipline an admin harassing an established user over the most trivial of issues, but hey, if Zombiebaron doesn't think it's the right move then there's no point in arguing. You hear that? There's no point in arguing. Words to live by, please. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​UU​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 05:38, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

What were you trying to achieve? 1234 ~ 09:42, 12 March 2012

Perhaps you calming down and/or getting perspective on your actions? -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​UU​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 11:11, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

For curiosity's sake, I must ask - what was it that gave you the impression I needed to calm down? And what perspective would that have been? 1234 ~ 13:41, 12 March 2012

Have people seen the size of my trousers recently >>>>>  ? Huge I tell you! >>>>> MrN 13:45, Mar 12

Yeah they're something around fiveteen cm:s! *watches the screen again* yeah they're HUGE! OMG!!! It`s Cat the Colourful, Jesus Christ!!! 13:57 12 March 2012

Well, for one, you really have been talking in huge chunks of dramatic text lately. This is a usual indicator that people are taking things on the internet seriously. Secondly, you still don't (or worse: do) realize how passive aggressive your responses are. Now that I've pointed these things out to you, I hope you take strides towards fixing them, instead of being irresponsible and dodgy in your usual way. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​UU​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 17:53, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. In the future, however, please consider mentioning you feel these things are the case before unilaterally deopping another admin. 1234 ~ 21:19, 12 March 2012

Lord Acton. --RomArtus*Imperator ® (Orate) 08:06, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Is unilaterally de-opping someone for a period of time better or worse than unilaterally banning someone for a period of time? (Assuming in the second instance the person can't just reverse the ban?) Pup 09:19 13 Mar '12

In either case raising concerns with the person first helps, and always when one has a contentious opinion on something they should probably talk to someone else as well prior to taking action just to be sure they're not overstepping themselves. But the thing is, deopping people and banning people just ain't the same thing, and if an admin really does need to be banned, then perhaps they oughtn't be an admin in the first place... but neither is that something for any single person to determine, otherwise that just tramples on the decisions of everyone else who voted to make them one. Seriously, if you want me deopped, make a forum; you've always had that right, but at this point I'm not sure I'd even care anymore. 1234 ~ 17:28, 13 March 2012

Poop a de poop a de poop. Nobody wants you deopped, as far as I can see. Except the guys behind the pool hall, but they want everybody deopped. You are the wind upon our wings. Iz true! And more play and less work never hurt anyone, except the guys behind the pool hall. Al 19:14 this day this month this year

Doctor Pangloss I presume? --RomArtus*Imperator ® (Orate) 19:47, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

@Lyrithya: I understand your perspective, but I think you're wrong. There are a number of times where users have been banned without any consultation and discussion. You'll have even done it yourself. And it's usually done as a way of starting to point out to someone they're being a dick. In this case, TKF saw an argument between two users who have good standing within the community, and he felt both of them needed to have some time out. The de-oppage was always intended to be a temporary thing. As for acting unilaterally - Dr. Skully banned Zana, and no other admin would lift that ban as he was the one who dd the banning. Wether he was right or not, he acted unilaterally at the time of banning, and given this stance between admins for it to continue the decision has been left solely in his hands. Right or wrong decision, it's his because he was given the position due to a community vote.

We give this authority to admins, and it's long accepted and upheld. We give the right to give/revoke user rights to a 'crat, but when he/she uses it all of a sudden it's the wrong thing to do, despite having the same thing done to multiple users on a daily basis? As a banning technique it wasn't even that effective - PIGGY could have lifted your ban without a second thought

As for your final passive aggressive note of not caring if you do become de-opped... I can only assume you mean on a permanent basis, which is very different to what was the situation earlier where you were de-opped for the period of an hour. If you no longer care, then you probably shouldn't be an admin any further. That kind of comment would be the sort of thing that would make me vote against a nomination at VFS. Both Al and I have said exactly that on previous nominations. So maybe you should consider a wiki break, or requesting a de-oppage, or something that will mean that the Lyrithya that I would nominate and vote for at VFS comes back to play with us at some stage. I really like her. This current negative version, not so much. And whatever it is IRL that is making you feel this way, I really hope it doesn't last, because we - I - care about you too much to see you feeling this way. Pup 10:47 13 Mar '12

Lyrithya, I'm sorry you're bummed out right now about something on the wiki. Clearly, very bummed out. I think everyone likes you too much and is too greatful for everything you do to not say anything nor slap anyone on the wrist for the things said and they way they are said. I have a voodoo doll of you and I stick pins in its eyes and liver every night...at least 500 of those pins ... but I don't think you should not be an admin. No way. I hope you get over being bummed out before you decide to throw in the towel. Hopefuly --ShabiDOO 23:30, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Mon, don't read into it, please. Some people are just morons, so if they want to make a fuss about me without offering anything constructive, I told them where to go. Meantime I'm busy enough without having to deal with people defending their own and each other's bruised egos against whatever the latest perceived slight happens to be.

And for you two, and you know who you are, before you call this passive aggression, please look up the meaning of 'passive aggression'. This is not passive aggression. This is actual aggression. Passive aggression is what people do when they don't like something but also don't actually do much of anything about it besides perhaps some non-directed passing words, much as is typical of diplomacy and satire, whereas currently I'm actively challenging you to continue making utter dicks of yourselves if you'd like. Good day. 1234 ~ 09:41, 14 March 2012

Question

How can I link to a list of admins? I tried that: Special:ListUsers&group=sysop but it does not work... I know there's a page called active admins or something but I can't find it... I'm on this for like 38 hours now, I'm asking you out of desperation. The rope to hang myself is ready. Mattsnow 04:45, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

You can breathe and stop worrying for my life, I found it! :P Special:Listadmins Mattsnow 05:19, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

UN:AA is the other one, for future reference, but yeah. 1234 ~ 17:30, 13 March 2012

And another question!

Oh Lyrithya, how can I make a gallery's pics bigger? I'd like the 3 4 at the end of this article I'm rewriting to be bigger and take the width of the screen. Or is the appearance of a page different depending on what screen or browser a person is using? Thanks in advance O Princess of Darkness. Mattsnow 07:25, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

My question has been resolved by Puppy. Mattsnow 11:26, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Good good. 1234 ~ 17:30, 13 March 2012

Question

Do you know anything about why the various Illogicopedia's and Uncyclopedias hosted by UnMeta or some such are all not working, and haven't been working for at least 3 days? I cannot access UnMeta, Illogicopedia.org or Simple English without getting an error saying a can't contact the database server. Do you know anything? Is it just me? or what... If you know nothing, feel free to disregard this. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) 09:34, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

"Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties." -- UncycloMedia.org and Illogicopedia.org, both. No other explanation. ~ BB ~ (T) ~ Thu, Mar 15 '12 13:07 (UTC)

Database trouble, and carlb apparently can't be arsed to fix it. 1234 ~ 14:12, 15 March 2012

Ah, thank you for telling me :) ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) 05:56, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Now it's squid trouble. 1234 ~ 05:58, 16 March 2012

IRC

Why do I need to register again? How do I just login??? I've been reading that damn "instruction manual" and can't find out... Damn, I'm hopeless with a computer. Mattsnow 02:47, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, uh... what? My brain's confused. Did it lose your registration? Can you come on at all? 1234 ~ 05:58, 16 March 2012

My signature

I'm happy to embarrass myself. I enjoy doing that. Could you please unprotect my signature? – Preceding unsigned comment added by PuppyOnTheRadio (talk • contribs)

I'll be happy to soon as you promise to start following the rules. 1234 ~ 03:02, 16 March 2012

As oppose to following the example of you, Al, TKF, BB, and a myriad of other users who don't follow UN:SIG. Which I believe my signature was following prior to it being deleted, as it had my name, my talk page, and the date in there. I course, it did get deleted as someone may have gotten confused by "12-3-12" as relating to an edit made in December 2003. Of course, it was rectified after that, so there was clarity behind it. But of course, given that you have decided to become the creator and arbiter of rules that you don't feel apply to yourself, I don't expect that rational discussion will actually make any difference to you, so I appear to be embarrassing myself by being polite to you yet again. Pup 03:16 16 Mar '12

I should also clarify. The "3:16" at the start of that timestamp relates to the time in hh:mm format. It doesn't relate to a biblical verse, or a date. You seem to e easily confused by these things and I know how much you appreciate clarity. Pup 03:16 16 Mar '12

Please guys, it's only a sig, get over it. If you stop arguing I promise to post naked pics of myself! Also, what about that IRC registering thing? I registered a while ago, I don't remember my password and don't know how to log in. HALP! Mattsnow 03:25, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah. Fair call. I'll just stop using that sig I guess. Puppy likes Rules Time is an illusion

The deletion was a joke, and I apologise for overreacting to your overreaction to that, but that does not excuse your current behaviour. Please stop it. 1234 ~ 04:01, 16 March 2012

Drinks and Pizza!

Please let Puppy do whatever he wants with his sig. His dog sig was one of the things that kept me here when I myself was a whelp. His sigs have been a joy. And since MrN pointed out that Mhaille and other fishermen haven't used some dates in their sigs for, what, seven years, that seems to squish that argument like a cow in India. Puppy and you used to make love in the night air, so I know that this is one of those lover's quarrels, and the only cure for that is...

A picture of beer and a cartoon pizza!

Yay! Aleister 13:18 Ides of March Boxing Day

And here's some dessert to go with that:

Pizza I devour with vigour

And beers I guzzle like water

Brownie's a treat

For the sickly obese

Now there's a sharp pain in my shitter

(Last word courtesy of Olipro's English lessons.)

(Nothing quite like horrible "poetry" to cheer people up. >_>)

wctaiwan 16:47, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Wut... 1234 ~ 17:21, 16 March 2012

Amero is featured

Many thanks for your positive vote--Funnybony    15:06, Mar 17

St. Patty’s Day

Are you wearing green today? If not, don’t be surprised if I show up. {{SUBST:User:Matthlock/sig}} (talk) 21:24, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

And one other thing, Lyrithya. Um, how do I put this? I have an idea as to what I want my signature to look at. View this file to see what it's supposed to look like, and then tell me how to get my signature to look like that when I press the four tildes. Sorry for any inconveniences, ma'am. Matthlock 21:29, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Never mind, Ma'am. Matthlock 21:30, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

The Pea Buddy Awards

We need you! Either prepare yourself mentally for the severity of the trials (don't sign up just yet, you cheat!) or commit your soul as a judge right now. May the Lord shine his blessings upon thee! Mattsnow 00:24, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

Hey you

Are you ready to come back and make this the 3rd best comedy wiki on the intarwebs? Nominally Humane! 12:11 21 Mar

Yes, I miss you. The place seems empty. You're really awesome, you know that? You're the uncorruptible and principled admin. More importantly, I hope you are doing fine! Talk to you soon. Mattsnow 01:53, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

Soon the stuff you have will be stolen and sold on e-bay. We can dismantle your user page and sell it piecemeal, or all at once. Maybe a forum could decide. Wait, I hear a noise /runs into the shadows, hides, takes a fork and some lentils and rice into the shadows. Munches softly. Aleister 1:57 25-3-'12

Maybe... Maybe she's understood the fact that there's coming new users more and more that steals their predecessors places. :( No one, for example, remembers me anymore... I also were on a long break, and then I sign in... NO NEW MESSAGES! NOT EVEN UNSIGNPOSTS! Bohoo... *Runs into the forest with a spoon to eat rice and cry out loud* OMG!!! It`s Cat the Colourful, Jesus Christ!!! 18:49 31 March 2012

I love you, Cat. 1234 ~ 21:56, 4 April 2012

Hey you. MrN 22:00, Apr 4

lol. we be a fickle bunch, we be. I must admit I've never really read all your good pages and the other stuff. My fault entirely. I will remedy this. aye, we be. Aleister 22:23 4-4-'12

You left Uncyc?

This saddens me. Greatly. --OliOmniOmbudsman 23:35, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

She drops back in occasionally to tell people she loves them, or to play with the css and js as Haydrahlienne. Nominally Humane! 11:46 11 Apr

W-w-w-w-w-whaa???

Hey you, I am the only guy around here that's allowed to leave and return here without notice. On that note, I am making my semi-semi-annual visit, and refuse to leave without my fair share of Lyrithya! COME BACK NOW. I DEMAND IT --Happymonkey39 Dah Meme Master

Nope. 1234 ~ 09:20, 21 April 2012

K. Good talk :) --Happymonkey39 Dah Meme Master 19:16, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

please unban my ip address

Well, I was actually trying to see what it'd take to get banned, now know and will start being a good boy😃 my ip address is 184.12.175.223, I'd like to create a new account so I can start fresh, I pissed a few people off.--FreddieJimiMercuryHendrix (talk) 16:44, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to step in like this Lyrithya, but I could not resist... FreddieJimiMercuryHendrix your IP will stay banned as you don't need it. When your 1 day block expires on your user account FreddieJimiMercuryHendrix you will know more about "actually trying to see what it'd take to get banned"

PS: We miss you Lyrithya. :) MrN 16:54, Apr 14

I think by having as sick of a name as he does he should have some sort of "anti-ban" policy on him. Rock on buddy --Happymonkey39 Dah Meme Master

Durn

> "I dun been ottoblocked from creating a page." > Commencing awesomeness elsewheres for now. |

Bleakgh (talk) 00:43, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Creating a page? What do you mean, did the creation induce a block, or a block on your IP/account prevent creation? Or do you mean you're prevented from creating that page, but not otherwise blocked? 1234 ~ 09:19, 21 April 2012

:O

You're not dead. HI! ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) 09:31, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

News to me. 1234 ~ 09:34, 21 April 2012

No? I've been digging all this time with a toy spoon for nothing? Even if you escape again (flee the confines of the gilded cage while you can, but wait a second...) there is a VFS going on that's entering its final stretch, in case you didn't know. I'm not involved, which is for the best. Fleet feet flee freely. Al April (UTC)

You should try a toy fork. Very effective, especially on the ground crabs. And a VFS, you say? Wasn't there just one the other month? Very strange. 1234 ~ 09:58, 21 April 2012

Is that a for vote, or just a general "This guy would be good" comment? (Or a right to reserve vote, for that matter?) Nominally Humane! 11:40 21 Apr

It is a !vote. 1234 ~ 11:56, 21 April 2012

I love clarity. Nominally Humane! 12:03 21 Apr

On the subject of clarity I demand more of it. Could you be a dear and go over to the VFS and make it clear which 2 you are voting on which 2 you are making an observation on. For the record TKF has assumed you are voting against me and Pup and making a judgement call in favour of Oliphaunte and Xamralco. If that is wrong please fix that up or something and if it correct, make it clearer. It will increase clarity and allow me to decide how many forks I will be stabbing you with (Oops I've said too much, forget ever hearing about the forks...) ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) 05:01, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

Welcome back!

Good to see you around! Having a chat with ZB recently about the site banner, and we were considering having a "Lyrithya" style banner to encourage IPs visiting to join. It got sidetracked along the way with PB, somehow. You said something about fundraising time with that change - what do you think about it's usage for encouraging newcomers? (I recall we used to have them throughout the calendar, but I understand the rationale.) Nominally Humane! 09:58 21 Apr

And how would a banner or other message help with user addition and retention? They have to want to stick around to do so; putting up a general notice encouraging people to create accounts does not make them any more likely to want to come back, but it would make the site look desperate. Encouraging people more subtly to edit, to work on things and thus put an actual investment into the place can be more effective, but that requires more targeted notices, and also for a less stupid editing experience in general. Unfortunately the latter is probably impossible with Wikia, anyway, but... yeah. 1234 ~ 10:08, 21 April 2012

I agree with the concept of investing in individuals. I'm also thinking the first step is getting people to understand a bit more about us as a community. As for desperate... it's advertising of a sort. Any advertising is a matter of promoting a product or a service. Done the right way, it'll come across as a pitch at worst, as an attraction at best. But I'm more floating ideas at present, as IPs don't see the point in joining. Qzekrom took a while to join as a user, and he was personally recruited by a few different editors.

I was also wondering about our edit window. It hasn't changed for the entire time I've been here, and it doesn't give any encouragement to join except a negative one. ("If you edit as an IP we will take your IP address and sell it on the black market for cookies.") I assume that somewhere in Mediawiki space we can adjust it. Maybe it's time we did? Let people know they can get credit for what they do here, and become part of a wider community, blah blah. (Oh, and if you haven't voted yet, we are going through a VFS for two new admins. Your perspective would be valued.) Nominally Humane! 11:20 21 Apr

If you want to discuss the topic, you may want to consider starting a forum on the topic. 1234 ~ 11:44, 21 April 2012

I was after your individual feedback before I go to a forum. You generally seem to have an opinion on things, and even if I don't agree with your opinion, I still value it. Nominally Humane! 12:02 21 Apr

My opinion on the interface is that it's horrendous. Let's just leave it at that for now, lest I start ranting at Wikia and/or Spang again or something. 1234 ~ 22:12, 21 April 2012

I love a good rant myself. Forum:The IP experience. Nominally Humane! 03:40 22 Apr

Major complaint

This had not been edited for two weeks! |Si Plebius Dato' Joe ang Aussie CUN|IC Kill | 11:51, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Just for you I'll give it a look, although if the review policies have changed recently (which they appear to have), this may end badly. 1234 ~ 11:55, 21 April 2012

I love you...

Just cause of what you said on VFS. I wish you'd come back. Your presence makes this site a bit more bearable amidst the rather discouraging amounts of negativity I feel from others.... --OliOmniOmbudsman 02:03, April 24, 2012 (UTC)

I love you too. But I always thought I was supposed to be the negative one? 1234 ~ 17:28, 25 April 2012

Yes, but in a positive way. You are the polarity that all magnets dream of becoming. --OliOmniOmbudsman 14:52, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Can you tell me about moving thai uncyclopedia into wikia?

I see that old server which run our uncyclopedia is usually crash a lots. Thai Uncyclopedian are planing to move into wikia server. Can you tell me how to? I will ask thai uncyclopedia's admin to begin moving (I can't done myself because I'm just a normal user) Thank --Warofdefeat (talk) 01:48, April 25, 2012 (UTC)

To move anywhere, you will first need your wiki's database. You'll need to contact carlb for a copy, and to get the existing wiki closed, as well as domains repointed to the new one.

Are you decided on moving to Wikia, though? You should probably consider other options first - as gracious hosts as they have been, they, like carlb, have their issues, and they have also been getting worse as to their abilities to host even the existing Uncyclopedias here, let alone take on new ones. If you do choose to go with Wikia and they accept you, they should be able to walk your folks through the process, however I must warn you that the trip will be one way. Once a wiki moves to Wikia, there is no recovering it, and no changing your mind and going somewhere else without incredible difficulty.

Regardless, to enquire about moving to Wikia, you can contact their staff using Special:Contact/general on any Wikia wiki, or email them at community@wikia.com. 1234 ~ 17:26, 25 April 2012

Parting note

And if I didn't say it before, welcome back. I have no idea how anybody here ever managed to get their shoes on in the morning without you. Nominally Humane! 01:46 29 Apr

Heya

Cat the Colourful - Meow? TALK - 05:32, May 4, 2012 (UTC) Hey. I've made a new signature. Kinda. I wanted to know how do you feel about this. It's pretty cool, after all, huh? I've used a code which I found from FF Wiki, and it seems to work pretty well. It's here. But there's a one little problem. This. It seems to be somekind of a template which is somewhere on the code. I would check how it looks in the FF Wiki, because Ifnum seems to be a template at that place, but, because I cannot find it, I can't make a userspace version of it. But, if I'd put it into mainspace, that would propably mean I have to the talkcode-thing also in the mainspace. And if I don't ask any permission from anyone, those could be easily be deleted by some ChiefJusticeDS or someone I don't know for sure. But.... I'm not even sure is that Infum-thing even necessary... I don't actually know that much about coding... So please, viewthis, and tell me what it does and is it necessary for making into mainspace or should I just find it from the code and destroy it. Thank you.

While it is an interesting approach to using talkpages like a comment board, I'm not sure it'll work too well here. Also, it's very bright.

Ifnum just checks if the thing is a number; if you always use numbers with whatever it would be checking you shouldn't need it anyway, yeah. But generally speaking, I don't know. Anything. 1234 ~ 17:34, 6 May 2012

I would like to bring your attention to this forum

Forum:Vote to De-Op Lyrithya Nominally Humane! 03:20 07 May

:)

I was really impressed by your response to the deop page. I can't imagine what it must feel like to have your name printed at the top of a de-opforum and to be judged by the whole community on it. Yikes! In any case, I don't think we could have expected a better attitude and reply from you :) --ShabiDOO 11:25, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

You think that was from Lyrithya? Hahahahaha. I hacked the account and wrote that, just so I could use the onion juice line. Life is unfair, and you can call me by my nickname on the web - The Greenland Hacker. Aleister (UTC)

Didn't seem to help matters any, unfortunately, but no matter. One thing is certain: you're the Redland Hacker, mon; I know you, red like the blood of the enemies you haven't slain. 1234 ~ 00:42, 9 May 2012

I think anything you would have said to the dick-puppet would have fallen on deaf ears. Impossible situation to deal with. Doesn't mean that it wasn't helpful, trust me.

Who is the Redlank Hacker, me? or Aleister the terrorist? --ShabiDOO 10:56, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

Aleister. He's claiming to be green, but I know better; it's all lies. All lies, I tell you. 1234 ~ 18:35, 9 May 2012

Your apology

You asked me to look through your edits and point out what it is that you've done wrong. I'm just going to point out the one made prior to your apology.

16:48, May 8, 2012 (diff | hist) User talk:Zombiebaron ‎ (→That email: Prove me wrong, puppy. I dare you.)

That has all the hallmarks of someone who is:

1. Interrupting a conversation that has nothing to do with them
2. Acting based upon having only a portion of the information
3. Continuing a stupid personal vendetta
4. Being as arrogantly orthodox as what brought us to that forum in the first place

So, given that your behaviour doesn't seem to be at all altered, that you're now taking your personal vendetta over to other sites, and that you don't seem to be in the slightest contrite but are willing to act like you are months after the event, and that you will continue to feel justified in being a cow, I feel I can comfortably tell you that you can shove your faux apology back into the dark abyss that it came from. If you actually start to act like a person willing to be part of a team and get off your orthodox and completely unjustified high horse, then - and only then - would I even consider that anything coming from you may actually be useful. Given that you appear to have all but abandoned the site, I'm not expecting that to come at any time soon. And I never expected you to apologise, and I don't want you to apologise. I couldn't give a flying fuck if you apologise, because it means nothing to me. What I want is you to come back and be the asset to the site that you used to be! Nominally Humane! 03:09 08 May

I'm not sure how you expect me to address this. 1234 ~ 15:32, 8 May 2012

Hopefully honestly. Nominally Humane! 03:36 08 May

A quick, helpful comment unrelated to this current pissing contest

For the love of all that is evil in the universe, could you please stop using citations of Wikipedia policies when addressing us lowly non-admins? This isn't fucking Wikipedia. Wikipedia policies have almost nothing germane to this site. Citing Wikipedia policies comes across as either the actions of an oblivious Admin-Bot, or else as stilted and condescending. Neither is endearing. My two cents. Thank you. ~ BB ~ (T) ~ Tue, May 8 '12 15:53 (UTC)

Actually, it's customary to use Wikipedia policy pages to illustrate a point as they're an excellent descriptor of problems that are common everywhere on the internet. We're just too lazy to write our own. -RAHB 00:49, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

They are not funny though! UN:WP!!! MrN 00:51, May 9

Yeah, but seriously...just use simple English. It's nice to hear "don't talk about vandals on other users' talk pages. It just encourages them" instead of "WP:DENY". I mean...whut? I don't give a dead rat for Wikipedia. Speak English. ~ BB ~ (T) ~ Wed, May 9 '12 0:53 (UTC)

That's the point. They're concepts that are very difficult to illustrate in simple terms. Wikipedia is written in English. They are not the Death Star. Saying "I don't like that policy because it's from Wikipedia" is the stupidest shit I've ever heard. You're grasping for straws, man. -RAHB 00:57, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

Whatever. ~ BB ~ (T) ~ Wed, May 9 '12 0:59 (UTC)

They are not difficult to illustrate in simple terms because Bizzee just did that, like, right above your comment. We're all writers here, we should all be able to summarize a policy in, at the very most, a couple sentences, no? It's certainly more encouraging than citing off-site policies like they're scripture. When you reword it yourself, it actually makes the points seem more relevant, too. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​UU​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 20:22, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

^^^Bingo. ~ BB ~ (T) ~ Wed, May 9 '12 21:34 (UTC)

What RAHB said, though usually it's more guidelines and essays that we use than policies. Wikimedians are obsessed with writing everything down, and a lot of it is pretty universal, so why even bother to write our own when they already illustrated the point quite nicely? It's the same reason as why our second rule is just a link to one of their essays, really. 1234 ~ 18:57, 9 May 2012

I agree with Bizzee that an explanation of what a user did wrong in the specific case in question, written in full sentences, is more helpful than a link to a Wikipedia essay. Though if the Wikipedia essay functions as a further elaboration on the issue in question, I don't see anything wrong with linking it. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 19:11, 9 May 2012

Mmm, but how does one do that? Some do lend themselves quite well - for a few one can even just spell out the full title of the page and that will sum it up, but in others the only way to paraphrase it would be to rewrite the entire thing, and with uncyclopedians the slightest slip up in wording can spell disaster. Call someone a diva, for instance, and either one would have to sum up the entire essay every time (and Uncyclopedia has a lot of divas), or just hope people actually follow the link and look at a more eloquent, less pointed version from the start. I will try to be less curt in the former cases and spell things out, but I don't really know what to say about the latter. 1234 ~ 19:45, 9 May 2012

Well, if you're using a specific term in a way specific to Wikipedia, you can say "Don't act like a diva (read the introduction to know what I mean)." When people see a link to a Wikipedia essay page, they'll often not click it because they expect a very long page they don't want to bother reading. But if you specify a specific not-too-long part, like the lead or the in-a-nuthshell, they'll feel far less inhibited to check out what you're talking about. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 20:10, 9 May 2012

Shouldn't that go without saying, though? O_o 1234 ~ 20:12, 9 May 2012

It should, but how things are supposed to be has had only a rather moderate influence on how things actually are up until this point in history. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 20:16, 9 May 2012

Point. 1234 ~ 20:17, 9 May 2012