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#:::Um, no. There are stupid black people. It is not racist to portray one. {{User:An Ape that Only Exists on Thursdays/sig}} 01:32, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 
#:::Um, no. There are stupid black people. It is not racist to portray one. {{User:An Ape that Only Exists on Thursdays/sig}} 01:32, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 
#::::It's not just about one stupid black person. Jamaal's parents are portrayed as being as ignorant as he is, and the "honors student" and "scholarship to Yale" bits suggest that blacks who are given honors are far, far dumber than whites who are given the same honors. Also, you might take note of the fact that Guildy actually put the article in Category:Racism. {{User:Hyperbole/sig}} 20:28, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 
#::::It's not just about one stupid black person. Jamaal's parents are portrayed as being as ignorant as he is, and the "honors student" and "scholarship to Yale" bits suggest that blacks who are given honors are far, far dumber than whites who are given the same honors. Also, you might take note of the fact that Guildy actually put the article in Category:Racism. {{User:Hyperbole/sig}} 20:28, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
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#:::::Actually on that side of things I didn't consider the skin colour of the narrator. It seemed to me more than anything else to encapsulate the stupidity of people in general, and the whole scholarship thing showing how the education system is dumbing down in general. Race didn't even factor in my reading of it. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sigmund}}<small><span class="sigexpand">''t''<span class="sighidden"> 21:05, 30/07/2009</span></span></small>
 
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George W. Bush's Hurricane Machine (history, logs)

Article: George W. Bush's Hurricane Machine

Score: 9.5 hurricane machines made by Presidents who hate black people

Nominated by: Nameable mumble? (UnScr:PWotM) 19:25, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
For: 18.5
  1. I found this very funny. Nameable mumble? (UnScr:PWotM) 19:25, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
  2. Self-For. Finally, someone other than me nominated one of my articles! Hurray! And, for the record, it's meant to be written in a barely-literate sort of way. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 21:19, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
  3. For. We don't have nearly enough satire from a right-wing perspective. -- common Ape (burglarize) (Riot Porn) 12:59, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
  4. For Changed my mind. Its a womans prerogative. Dame PPsigPPlips.gifGUN PotY WotM 2xPotM 17xVFH VFP Poo PMS •YAP• 15:02, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
  5. For It is funny, Staircase CUNt 18:16, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
  6. For. Sir Groovester | Contributions | Talk Page 18:35, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
  7. For. 208.102.104.162 22:08, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
  8. for. obama will suffer some stiff competition, i hear sarah palin is already campainging hard for the 2010 election. SirGerrycheeversGunTalk 19:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
  9. Strong For. This is... hilarious! Necropaxx (T) {~} 20:27, Jul 22
  10. Dig! Satire, ladies and gentlemen. --THINKER 08:19, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
  11. For with an addendum that Romartus is the worst voter ever Littleboyonly.jpg TKFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFUJewriken.GIFCK Oldmanonly.jpg 08:21, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
  12. 4 also, I second TKFeck. Lieutenant THEDUDEMAN Dude ... Totally UOTM KUN GotA F@H 08:34, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
  13. For. I was gonna silent abstain, but I have to second THEDUDEMAN seconding TKF. Romartus, you kinda suck. -OptyC Sucks! Icons-flag-us.png CUN17:02, 24 Jul
    Why's everyone hating on Romartus? —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 17:07, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
    I got nothing but love for everybody (except that OptyC fellow, he's an ass) but as somebody far wiser than me once said: "Romartus is the worst voter ever". I wish I could remember who said it and where... -OptyC Sucks! Icons-flag-us.png CUN17:12, 24 Jul
  14. for I have actually seen something like this. It is the voice that makes this work so well. As well as seconding that OptyC comment about that OptyC fellow, calling him, a bit of "an ass," but adding the additional comment, "but a cute one." Woody On Fire! Wood burning.gifTalking Woody Stalking Woody 20:12, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
  15. For. Sir SockySexy girls.jpg Mermaid with dolphin.jpg Tired Marilyn Monroe.jpg (talk) (stalk)Magnemite.gif Icons-flag-be.png GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotYPotM WotM 09:17, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
  16. For. MrN MrN9000SouthParksmall.jpg 03:43, Jul 27
  17. Strong For. One look at this and I knew I would fall in love with it. ~~Sir Fightstar Rocks! CUN 12:31, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
  18. For. Oh, satire. --UU - natter UU Manhole.gif 15:19, Jul 29
  19. For Obama. --S0.S0S.0S.0S0 03:15, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Against: 9
  1. Not just no, but Hell NO. Dame PPsigPPlips.gifGUN PotY WotM 2xPotM 17xVFH VFP Poo PMS •YAP• 19:51, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
  2. Symbol declined.svg Against. As much as i like your writing this is too blatant for my likings Sir ACROLO KUNFPWAOTMFA •(SPAM) 05:59, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
  3. Against. Style Oranssiviiva.jpg Guide 18:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
  4. Against. --Docile hippopotamus 06:17, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
  5. Against. I question its humor Alexander the Great 10:32, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
  6. Against. I agree with Acrolo, because having my own opinion is too much work ChiefjusticeDS 11:34, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
  7. Against. Has a good concept and obviously a competent author, but it's far too fragmented and confused for my taste. Sig pic.PNG Unsolicited conversation Extravagant beauty PEEING 03:27, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
  8. Against. First person narrative - Otherwise a good concept and funny, but just not encyclopaedic enough. Pup t 01:27, 28/07/2009
  9. Against. I don't like Bush either, but this is just pointless Bush bashing. InMooseWeTrust 15:37, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
    It seems somebody missed the point. Read it again, but think about what this article says about the kid writing this thing instead of what the kid says about Bush. You'll find that there is no actual Bush bashing within this article. Sir Groovester | Contributions | Talk Page 22:41, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
  10. Against.Flashfreez 01:02, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Comments
  1. Symbol neutral vote.svg Abstain. I do understand that this is a bit of devil's advocacy from Guildy but the weakness is the description behind how this hurricane machine actually works and the absurdity of the concept. This really is its weak 'eye' and therefore doesn't propel it enough for me to be a VFH as it currently stands. --Laurels.gifRomArtus*Imperator ® (Orate). 06:17, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
    What happens is he talks into a big bag until it's full of hot air, goes up in air force one, and opens the bag. The low pressure from the hot air blows hard on a vertical plane which causes an updraft that starts to spiral in a clockwise manner (anti-clockwise in the southern hemisphere) and as a result causes hurricanes. I though that bit was obvious. Pup t 01:32, 28/07/2009
  2. Extremely conflicted abstain. This article is absurdly racist. The question I kept chewing over is: "Does the author think it's funny because he's a racist and he laughs at the truth of the piece; or, does the author think it's funny because he thinks racism is often absurd and he's satirizing the kind of absurdly racist thing one might write if one were a racist; or, does the author just think racism is funny in a 'for the lulz' kind of way where expressing racist sentiments on the Internet is funny because people's reactions to it are funny"? It was a question that spanned an entire paragraph, and by the time I got done thinking it, I couldn't remember whether the article was funny or not. P.S.: I think I just stole Romartus's "worst voter ever" merit badge. Tinymasaru.gifpillow talk 00:02, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
    This isn't racist. I think you've missed the point. This interweaves a lot of different things, but one of the main things it parodies is the tendency among certain black people (the uninformed segments) to racialize everything. An archetypical example is Kanye West's comments that Bush doesn't like black people (and hence didn't respond effectively to Katrina, which is taken to an absurd extreme here). -- common Ape (burglarize) (Riot Porn) 00:35, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
    No, it's absurdly racist. The narrator doesn't just have a tendency to racialize things: he's also painfully stupid, willing to believe anything he hears, and ridiculously ignorant about both politics and science. And the article concludes with a suggestion that our society encourages black people to be stupid, gullible and ignorant. The implication is that blacks are a group of morons who we're afraid to educate because we're too P.C. to disagree with their moronic conspiracy theories. Yeah. Racist. But I don't really care that it's racist: I've written plenty of racist things on Uncyc myself. What I can't put my finger on is whether the racism detracts from the humor, or whether it feels like it has an agenda other than making me laugh. Tinymasaru.gifpillow talk 00:48, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
    Um, no. There are stupid black people. It is not racist to portray one. -- common Ape (burglarize) (Riot Porn) 01:32, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
    It's not just about one stupid black person. Jamaal's parents are portrayed as being as ignorant as he is, and the "honors student" and "scholarship to Yale" bits suggest that blacks who are given honors are far, far dumber than whites who are given the same honors. Also, you might take note of the fact that Guildy actually put the article in Category:Racism. Tinymasaru.gifpillow talk 20:28, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
    Actually on that side of things I didn't consider the skin colour of the narrator. It seemed to me more than anything else to encapsulate the stupidity of people in general, and the whole scholarship thing showing how the education system is dumbing down in general. Race didn't even factor in my reading of it. Pup t 21:05, 30/07/2009

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