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OK. This right here is the final forum post pertaining to the VFH shift that will occur unless something major presents itself. As you may or may not be aware, I proposed a new form of VFH a while ago to help combat stagnation. It has gone through multiple permutations, and with substantial help from Spang has become User:Ljlego/VFH. While the original goal of stagnation prevention is less prominent here, I believe this new code for VFH will be beneficial for many reasons.

  1. The box at the top takes all the guesswork out of nominating a page, which will allow noobs to nominate without royally fucking up the page.
  2. The presentation is much nicer than it was previously.
  3. The new summary page allows you to see all nominations and their status in an easy list, and to sort said list by score, nomination age, or nominator.
  4. We can protect the VFH main page now so any stupidity can be averted before it happens.
  5. Load times are down.
  6. Archiving is automatic, and is easy to find an article's nomination.

However, we would like to get one final consensus, and also answer the only remaining question; should we use the page linked above or the summary page as the front of the project page. We welcome any comments and (if necessary) suggestions.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 03:07, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Vote!

Score: +30
  1. For - interesting... --Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • FFS • WP) 03:10, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  2. For, obviously. But I think the summary should be the main page. Also note that as far as I can tell, both are faster to load than VFH currently. • Spang • ☃ • talk • 03:20, 09 Jul 2007
  3. For I think....yeah. For.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 03:21, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  4. Hella For. Bitches don't know bout my edit conflicts D: --Littleboyonly.jpg T​K​F​​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UUJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​UJewriken.GIF​CK Oldmanonly.jpg 03:22, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  5. ...with SAVINGS!!! -- Tinymooose.gif » Sir Savethemooses Grand Commanding Officer ... holla atcha boy» 03:23, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  6. I am for the much nicer looking page and also believe that the summary should be the main. If not, it should be gotten rid of and its content integrated with the nominations page. --vyvyan 03:26, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
    It was tried, to be sure. However, that spiked load times to way beyond a minute, which is unacceptable.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 03:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  7. You didn't ruin the vote template. Ж Kalir hippies! yay! 03:41, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  8. FOR FOR FOR -RAHB 04:01, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  9. HOLY FREAKING AWESOME. VFH just got pimped. -- §. | WotM | PLS | T | C | A 04:52, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  10. Use the voting page as the main one, because people will expect to be able to vote when they link to VFH. Also: I think it's unnecessary and confusing to put the total number of voters for each article in brackets after the score/for/against on the summary page. Slithy Tove 05:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  11. For trying out the summary page. One question... nomination subpages remain after articles fail VFH? What happens when an article is renominated? —rc (t) 05:37, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Previous nominations stay as-is, and renominations must be named "Article (nth nomination)". -- Mitch Icons-flag-au.png 06:22, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Actually, the nomination page itself can be called anything you like, as long as the article parameter in the template is correct. • Spang • ☃ • talk • 04:09, 09 Jul 2007
    • Also, I was thinking that someone would huff it after a while. No need for too much stuff.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 20:50, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  12. For. I like the quick summary page. No cruft. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 05:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  13. Dig looks good to me --THINKER 05:52, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  14. For Icons-flag-au.png Sir Cs1987 UOTM. t. c 06:03, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  15. For. I've got goosebumps just thinking about it!  c • > • cunwapquc? 06:05, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  16. For. I contributed to it (nowhere near the level of Ljlego and Spang's involvement), and I reckon that the summary should be default. -- Mitch Icons-flag-au.png 06:22, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  17. For Looks lovely XD ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 07:47, 09 July 2007
  18. For It's come a long way guys - very well done. I think per my policy of absolute minimum amount of clicking that the main page should be the default. If I was a n00b looking at the summary page, at a glance I'd have no idea how to see what other people had written, and all the figures and links and stuff are a bit overwhelming. Established users can just change their VFH button by javascript, so it's not really about them so much. --Strange.PNG (but) Untrue  Whhhy?Whut?How? *Back from the dead* 10:22, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  19. For. ~Jewriken.GIF 10:57, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  20. Against Wait, I mean For.--<<Bradmonogram.png>> 11:54, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
    Woo!-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 13:21, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  21. Of Course. Love the look. This is a MAJOR improvement.--Mr.Vib 15:00, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  22. FOR! Because I don't want to look like a douche and vote against.

    kingkitty Bretthead.png~Fuck you~

    15:00, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  23. For --Ekashp 15:57, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  24. Against I like the VFH were using right now. --General Insineratehymn 17:26, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
    Insineratehymn, you are a true rebel. -- Phlegm Leoispotter * (garble! jank!) 03:58, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  25. For. Eh, worth a shot. • • • Necropaxx (T) {~} 20:28, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  26. F☭R, Spacer.gifSpacer.gifPremierTomMayfairChe.png RedPhone.png Unsoc.png Hammer and sickle.png09:22, 09 July 2007
  27. Resounding For to make this one of the biggest landslides I've ever seen. P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon Baloon.gif(Tick Tock) (Contribs) 22:11, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  28. For I'm calling a humanitarian unit to get survivors out of this landslide. --Lt. High Gen. Grue The Few The Proud, The Marines 22:20, 9 July 2007
  29. For--General And Min. THEDUDEMANSucrose b.gif 22:45, 9 July 2007 (UTC)(UTC)
  30. Abstain. I was misled. The banner at the top of VFH told me that I could make a change. It seems that no matter what I do now, it won't matter. But no matter. This way, when it scares me that VFH has changed yet again, nobody will be able to point a finger at me. The beauty of not voting, eh? -- The Zombiebaron 00:46, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
    You weren't misled, you misread. The "you" there is plural. However, you (singular) can make a change in exactly the same way as you can make a change by voting in real life. Fun huh! • Spang • ☃ • talk • 01:33, 10 Jul 2007
    I knew there was a reason that I don't vote. -- The Zombiebaron 20:07, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  31. For --EMC [TALK] 02:29, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  32. For - {Ikabu}BUZZ...FLICK...GURGLE... 07:43, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  33. Fnord Awesomeful, this new design is. --The Acceptable Thinking cap small.png Cainad Sacred Chao.png (Fnord) 15:14, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
    I'm thinkin' that a consensus has been reached. And the linked All Nominations page should be the front page, definitely not the overview. --THINKER 16:01, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
    As long as it doesn't impurify our precious bodily fluids, Mandrake. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 16:17, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  34. Against. -- Sir Mhaille Icons-flag-gb.png (talk to me) 16:28, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Implement'd

Be sure to let people know about any problems you have. • Spang • ☃ • talk • 07:22, 11 Jul 2007

The Top 3 Articles thingy is displaying at a crazy width. Wider than wide. Also, my hip hurts just before it rains. Has ever since I took a bullet, back in 'Nam. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 10:35, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
I crashed my bikes last night on the Tel Aviv promenade in front of two very amused ladies. So much for my ego. ~Jewriken.GIF 11:14, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Ok fixed. Mutter grumble IE grumble mutter... • Spang • ☃ • talk • 05:21, 11 Jul 2007
Would it be possible to add a "sort by not voted/voted" thingy? Sorry, I don't mean to get all technical. I'm a gourd, you see. A gourd filled with technical lingo, jargon, and bafflegab. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 19:44, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
It would not be possible in what is currently the main page. However, in the summary page, I suppose it is possible if you moved the "mark as voted on" to a separate column, etc etc. I don't know, though. See, I'm an idiot.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 19:48, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Ooo! Bug! It doesn't seem to remember the voted/no voted thing...and you're not an idiot. You're just slow. Slow, like the rest of us on this little bus we call Uncyc. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 20:17, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
What'd you say? I was too busy playing with my pinwheel hat. Kinda hard when you're wearing a jacket without sleeves.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 20:21, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Isn't a jacket without sleeves a vest? You are and idiot. (and yes, I know what you meant. That doesn't mean that I won't mock you when you phrase it poorly. I'm like that.) Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 20:31, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
/me breaks out into tears. But I done takeded twenty minuts to for get rite that sentense!-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 20:38, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
For the summary, yeah no, that'd be possible impossible. Though that particular column doesn't have a title, so it might look a little odd. But what the hey. And it should only remember voted/not voted for as long as your browser remembers your web history. Does it forget as soon as you leave the page, or later on? I might have to disable that in browsers that don't do it right if it's problematic. • Spang • ☃ • talk • 01:14, 12 Jul 2007
Oops, just realised that that would in fact be impossible, as it is currently. • Spang • ☃ • talk • 01:36, 12 Jul 2007
It only remembers for as long as I stay at that page. That is to say, not at all. If I go somewhere else, then come back, it's forgotten about me and is sleeping with someone else. VFH is a whore. Whore! /me throws all her stuff on the front lawn. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 02:22, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
/me hurriedly throws the missing dress onto Modus' lawn. Quick, dear, before he notices! Oh, heh, hello....../me runs-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 20:38, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Praise

Gents, I'm impressed, the new system is a gem. You should patent it and sell it to the other guys. Those with the "correct" and "current" information and stuff. ~Jewriken.GIF 17:28, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

/me dances a jig. For those who missed that, it's on YouTube. Just type in "idiot dancing" and that'll be it. Or maybe it could be someone else. In any case, MO, I'm sorry about your hip.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 19:43, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Minor Issue

The only issue that I have with the spiffed up new system is that, since new pages are created for entries, watchlists are alerted when those pages are updated. I like having a page that is bolded with every update, regardless of whether or not I've voted on the article. Not a major issue by any stretch, but is there some sort of code that could link Uncyclopedia:VFH to the newly created vote pages for watchlist purposes? Its cool either way (and perhaps there is an inherent remedy for this that I haven't discovered); I just don't want to get sidetracked at some point, neglect VFH, and miss those vital opportunities to falsely inflate my ego make my opinion count! :) --THINKER 01:20, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Er, I don't think so. You could manually watch every page, but other than that, I think you're outta luck. Sorry.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 01:31, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, that's not possible. The closest thing to that would be the related changes page for vfh. It's like recent changes, but just for things linked to by vfh. So it would also show changes to actual articles that are currently nominated, but if you bookmark that page it might be close to what you want. • Spang • ☃ • talk • 01:42, 12 Jul 2007
Damn, I wish I could watch that related changes page. Oh well, no worries. --THINKER 01:51, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
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