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So I noticed today that TYATU was up for deletion. Obviously, we can't nominate a bunch of articles for deletion at once (*cough*TIMELINE*cough*) and someone suggested that we take it to the dump, so here we are. Please be serious: what should be done with TYATU? Some users suggest that it' just a stupid vanity project, whereas others think it's a masterpiece. What should be done with it?

Discuss. Saberwolf116 16:30, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

TYATU has increasingly attracted cruft, and not of the good kind (if there even is such a thing). I propose all TYATU activity be immediately halted and altogether forbidden. If someone is extremely bothered by a certain episode, they can nominate it at VFD. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 16:37, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Meh. I'd be more than happy to see it all mass deleted. It's just one giant vanity in-joke that nobody besides Meganew (who?) and Gouncyclopedia (banned) care about anymore. -OptyC Sucks! CUN17:28, 25 Jun

Keep as an idiot magnet. If it gets deleted, we might have another <Squirrel Who Must Not Be Named>'s Angels situation. --Mn-z 17:53, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

How coincidental Crablogger dropped by today. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 18:23, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

.... WHAT???????????? MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 18:30, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

It appears he was just here to fix his userpage. --Mn-z 18:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

In order to be a useful contributer of this conversation someone will have to remind me what TYATU stands for.    Orian57    Talk   19:13 25 June 2009

Oh wait! I got it. The young and the Uncyclopedians. Never read it.    Orian57    Talk   19:14 25 June 2009

HowTo: Avoid VFD

1. Split your crappy article into more than forty pages.
2. Watch with delight as everyone points out the near-impossibility of deleting it through VFD and Mordillo insists it absolutely cannot be done any other way.
3. Watch with further delight as the issue spills onto the Village Dump and the site grinds to a standstill as all the regulars argue about your page.
4. Watch with even more delight as Uncyclopedia devotes one hour of editor time to every minute you spent pooping out your crappy article, and ultimately doesn't even get it deleted.
5. Profit?

pillow talk 19:07, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I say that we have a vote to mass-delete the entire series here on the Village Dump, then. Also, you forgot the "???" step.

Anyway, who's with me? -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​UU​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 19:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I think there might be a few TYATU episodes actually worth keeping, but I generally don't care whether all of TYATU is deleted or not. One thing however I do care about and it's for TYATU to come to an end. No more new TYATU crap. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 19:21, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

How about we compromise: All of the new and terrible shit gets deleted, but we keep the first season for historical purposes. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​UU​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 19:29, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Saberwolf116 19:30, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah. And, while we're at it, make Cajerk write something funny for once. Damn Peter Jackson fan... MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 19:32, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for expressing what's exactly on my goddamn mind, Hyperbole. This anti-mass-huffing is a complete waste of fucking time. Just accept category deletions - considering when a category is nommed, every page suffers from roughly the same issues - and get on with it, guys. – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 20:14 Jun 25, 2009

No u. The word "roughly" is a good start there - throwing out the baby with the bathwater is never a great idea. Granted, in the case of TYATU I don't see that there's much chance we're getting rid of much worth saving, the wider putative case of category deletions and other mass deletions is a bad thing. Amongst other things, one of the points of VFD is that the tag goes on the article so if the author keeps an eye on it, and cares, they can make a case for it being kept. And so can others who watch it, for that matter. Mass deletion with so little warning is a bad idea for those reasons and more. --UU - natter 21:00, Jun 25

Nevertheless, as Hyperbole points out, the current system basically allows massive categories, such as the Timeline and TYATU (regardless of whether they should be or not - this is a different issue from what I'm saying), to never be deleted. Even nomming one section at a time provokes an uproar of "this ain't right!" Just because they're big, doesn't mean they should escape the system; and presently, that's what the system does. – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 22:05 Jun 25, 2009

I gotta agree with Skull, even if he is a git. This is a workaround for VFD. Similar to regular editors moving mainspace articles into their userspace with no discussion. So, maybe I'll move this whole shebang into my userspace then put it on QVFD. Technically it's allowed, correct? -OptyC Sucks! CUN22:14, 25 Jun

Allowed, yeh, recommended, neh. Wait until the vote's done. If the majority say delete, then offer to take it in your userspace. If for some reason it gets deleted before that, I'll personally put them in your userspace myself if there aren't any other takers. Also, I am a git. – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 22:17 Jun 25, 2009

My favorite git. And I'm not planning on doing anything of the sort, I just wanted to make a point. We need to be flexible enough to make exceptions to the rules and not just be mindlessly bound to them. -OptyC Sucks! CUN22:19, 25 Jun

Actually, people need to learn that there aren't any rules. Start obeying rules and you lose common sense. – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 22:21 Jun 25, 2009

That sounds like a rule. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 23:13, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Mustard. – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 23:28 Jun 25, 2009

Then let's put it to a vote!

I'll keep this vote open for either 5 days or until one option gets at least 15 votes ahead of the rest of the competition. Whatever comes first. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​UU​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 19:52, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Five days later, conclusion reached, commencing tearing roof off sucka. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​UU​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 06:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Tear the roof off the sucka!

Score: +12 people who wouldn't mind seeing it all go to waste

• Delete, based on everything I said on VFD, and also on the basis that half of the people who voted to keep it on VFD were only keeping it because it was being voted on at VFD and not here, which is a bollocks reason, and worth pointing out for its absurdity. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​UU​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 19:34, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
  • For the record, if this option and compromise are approaching a tie, then I consider this vote more strongly than the other. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​UU​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 20:33, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• Apathy. As long as the crap gets deleted. -OptyC Sucks! CUN19:40, 25 Jun
• I prefer this, but I can also compromise. Saberwolf116 19:50, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• We want the funk. We gotta have that funk, ow, we need the funk. Give up the funk. - T.L.B. WotM, UotM, FPrize, AotM, ANotM, PLS, UN:HS, GUN 20:26, Jun 25
• Let the motherfucker burn. Burn, motherfucker. Burn. pillow talk 20:04, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• Let's finish this. – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 20:16 Jun 25, 2009
• Explode this. --iseditor.user ^Comments/_Criticism 20:58, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• Massive vanity-fest. Could be stuck in userspace if really necessary. • Spang • ☃ • talk • 21:51, 25 Jun 2009
• Delete It's bad it's bad - you know it! mAttlobster. (hello) 23:19, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• Delete the ones I read have been pretty bad, and that was before the whole Gouncyclopedia! thing. ^{Pirate Lord}__Sonic80 (Yell  •  Latest literary excretion) __ 23:38, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• Delete. An idiot magnet. Oh, and we do have a vanity policy. • • • Necropaxx (T) {~} 00:55, Jun 27
• D1337 As per Hyperbole's Bloodhound Gang lyrics. Colin ALL YOUR BASEHeaney! Casa Bey Superfly Portfolio 01:28, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

  Yes, because the Bloodhound Gang were the first to use those lyrics... --UU - natter 08:13, Jun 30

Compromise the roof off the sucka!

Score: +9 people who wanna keep the first season only and halt further development

• Compromise. I am also for this option. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​UU​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 19:34, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• Yeah I'm for this option, as well. MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 19:39, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• Apathy. As long as the crap gets deleted. -OptyC Sucks! CUN19:41, 25 Jun
• I think this best illustrates my opinion. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 19:48, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• Sure. Everything but the first season. Saberwolf116 19:49, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• Suggested other compromise: Userspace? – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 20:17 Jun 25, 2009
  • Other other compromise: Userspace only first season? -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​UU​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 20:18, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• We'd like the funk. We'd very much prefer to have the funk, if it's not to much trouble. May we please have the funk? We're willing to compromise if you're unwilling to give up the funk in its entirety. - T.L.B. WotM, UotM, FPrize, AotM, ANotM, PLS, UN:HS, GUN 20:26, Jun 25
• Compromise..Keep season 1..if Gouncy and co. start adding it to again send warning..--RomArtus*Imperator ® (Orate). 20:31, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Well actually, Gouncyclopedia didn't even have the approval of the other contributors to it. Nobody liked him. MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 20:33, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
    • *cat sound* Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 23:25, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• Compromise. I don't know what it is, but "historical purposes" sounds gd. Nameable • mumble? 20:53, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• Indeed.Sunbeam no u Have you been doing your ironing? 09:21, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Keep the roof on this sucka!

Score: +9 people who want to keep it in its entirety and keep it growing

• Mass deletion based on genre is a shitty precedent (at worst, move it to userspace). Remember this when they come for you. Seriously. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 21:49, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• They will come at 2am, they'll knock on your door with their maple shaped guns and drag you off in the middle of the night. Also, what he said. Eh. ~ 21:58, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• I know it isn't terrific. But I also feel that it hurts no one where it is right now. Keep, and, *at worst*, move to userspace. The President of Iran WOODY! DeathLife? to the infidels! Go USA? 21:59, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

  Comment. Probably wishful thinking, but if we get rid of idiot magnets perhaps we'll stop attracting idiots? -OptyC Sucks! CUN22:03, 25 Jun

  Counter Comment. This is the internet. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 22:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

  You win teh internets. -OptyC Sucks! CUN22:26, 25 Jun

  Cheer Hurrah! Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 23:14, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

• Fuck no!!! --Gelert 00:07, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
• Per Modus. Its outside of mainspace and an idiot magnet. --Mn-z 04:50, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
• Per above. --Docile hippopotamus 09:25, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
• This site should be for all kinds of humour, even the stuff that doesn't make you laugh, or the type that makes your cry or makes you horny. TYATU doesn't belong to either of these, but I'd like to see it kept. -- Sir Mhaille  (talk to me)
•  JNNN TV Anda does not tolerate any destruction of any part of the TYATU episode whatsoever. If that had happened, then I would be forced to piece together the episodes as if it's like Doctor Who. Just keep the entire episode please. TYATU has been JNNN TV Anda's lifeblood for over a year now. |Si Plebius Dato' Joe ang Kyurem CUN|IC Kill | 09:12, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
• For (UN:N)-- Phlegm Leoispotter * (garble! jank!) 03:19, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Yay! Yet another forum about deletion!

How we all like deleting and removing stuff. It's a national hobby here already ain'`t it. For the record though, two points:

1. I never said anything about removing or not removing it through VFD. I just said this doesn't get a different treatment then Timeline.
2. If anyone, and this is the absolutely the last time I'm saying that, will take the piss out of Crablogger again, I'm banning him/her for a month. This is way past being funny. This is cyber harassment of someone who tried his best to write articles, got a shit treatment and left - and ever since then a couple of users seem to think it's funny to run a crusade against him. ~ 21:07, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

   Agreeing about Crablogger. He's gone, let it go. -OptyC Sucks! CUN21:10, 25 Jun

We should have some sort of rule against cyber harassment...--<<>> 00:51, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Don't we? – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 00:52 Jun 26, 2009

Perhaps I'm earning myself a one-month ban here, but personally, I don't think that pointing out that a user's contributions were terrible and a bit disturbing, and systematically deleting them, constitutes cyberstalking, cyber harassment, cyberbullying, or any other of the various forms of cyber. pillow talk 04:40, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

There's a difference between pointing it out and goin' on about it ya know. I don't know much about the issue, however, nor do I intend to, but it seems to have no place in this forum at all. – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 04:54 Jun 26, 2009

In our defense, we assumed that guy was gone forever. (And for all intents and purposes, he probably is) --Mn-z 05:02, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Manforman? MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 05:07, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

On a more serious note, we just use the term <Squirrel Who Must Not Be Named> Angel's Situation to describe a situation in which someone creates several disturbing articles on the same subject, as its the most notable occurrence of that. Sort of like how Famine has become the archetypal "over-zealous" admin. --Mn-z 02:24, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I thought I treated him nicely though. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 23:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay. A new idea. None of that deletion stuff.

How about we try to decide which seasons are the crappy ones and instead of deleting them, they get userspaced. Is that something the cabal can agree with? —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 23:27, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I have an even better idea. Let's move the entire wiki into Modusoperandi's userspace. That way, nothing is in mainspace, so it isn't really harming anything. pillow talk 23:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, let's keep Modus' articles in mainspace. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 23:42, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

But it wouldn't make sense to put everything in the Village Dump... -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​UU​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 23:42, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes it would, actually. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 23:49, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Isn't that what userspace is for, holding crap? Anyway, he have alot worse in userspace. --Mn-z 02:13, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Seriously though, I don't think it's feasible to have an unbiased vote on what to keep and what to toss. MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 23:45, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Sure, I have a bias. My bias is that when I read TYATU, I think "This brings shame upon all of us." pillow talk 23:46, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Who cares about being biased or not anyway? —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 23:47, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, who cares?!?!--Gelert 00:10, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Dude, you write on this site. Isn't that shame enough? Woody On Fire! Talking Woody Stalking Woody 21:27, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but, see, all that makes me is unattractive to women. With TYATU on the site, I'm not only unattractive to women; I'm a dumbass with no writing skills. pillow talk 22:00, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I still think you're cute.    Orian57    Talk   22:13 29 June 2009

Is it really hurting anything? You have voted for some rather stupid/creepy stuff on VFG. --Mn-z 05:04, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

TYATU as a An Exception or a Precedence ?

When are we going to lock it away in a deep dungeon ? Also as the policy is here 'no vanity' and a noob finds this dreary/unfunny/stupid chronicle could they not say 'why are you deleting my stuff when this exists ...? --RomArtus*Imperator ® (Orate). 06:13, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, since it's been entirely deleted, I say precedence. Also, YOU KNOW NOT WHO I AM!!! MWHAHAHA! 69.162.64.123 07:36, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

I found a stack of TYATU episodes in the mirror Uncyclopedia! Don't delete them! |Si Plebius Dato' Joe ang Kyurem CUN|IC Kill | 08:39, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't they have been userspaced, per our policy of userspacing articles on request if they get deleted? --Mn-z 15:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Those guys don't give up..watch out as they try and feed them back in ! --RomArtus*Imperator ® (Orate). 08:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, it's gone.

I'll miss the series. Admittedly, it kind of jumped the shark near the end of season 2. And season 3 started to really suck after a while. However, us creators put a lot of effort into it. It wasn't really too good for the mainspace, but it wasn't horrible. It was the first major UnScript. I think it should have been userspaced. Season 3 got too vain, Meganew advertised it a bit too much, and Gouncyclopedia!...just sucked. But it was fun. Fun to write. Somewhat funny to read, at parts. Managed to parody some movies and stuff along the way. ...Actually, it would probably have been better written in a userspace, without that construction template getting in our way. But oh well. Please userspace it in one author's userspace. Please? Pretty please? Marshal Uncyclopedian! Talk to me! 06:02, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and someone needs to turn those deletion summaries into an UnTune. Marshal Uncyclopedian! Talk to me! 06:05, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Meganew's attempt to make TYATU a VFH contender (!) had the effect of bundling the entire series and throwing into the electron shredder. Once other Uncyclopedia's denizens looked at it said more or less 'eh ?' - its fate was sealed. --RomArtus*Imperator ® (Orate). 09:14, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

In my opinion, the series started falling apart at about the point when we got a crazed fan. Marshal Uncyclopedian! Talk to me! 21:35, 1 July 2009 (UTC)