Uncyclopedia talk:Der Unwehr

Any good usergroup page needs a discussion page. Also on a serious note, you havent offered us a usebox. Userboxes are good advertising if nothing else. Go make a userbox. ~Orian57~ ~Talk~ 22:13 18 May 2009

What she said. If you need me to, I can make it. I've made at least 5 or more userboxes already (see my page). You'ld have to supply a pic though. And if I got a point for it, that would be cool too. Don Puttano cHeDDs 22:21,18May,2009

Two points I'd like you to keep in mind

First, please be careful with slapping various maintenance tags around. And second, I'm not sure what's the intention of "liquidation of memes?" ~ 22:43, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

This is somebody who is completely out of the know, but I took it to mean the removal of unnecessary memes — that is, any meme thrown into an article for the sake of "filling" it (which is most of them) — to be replaced with funny, relevant, original jokes in their stead. I assume that the exception would be articles that are written about a particular meme or ones that use a meme as a specific narrative device. — KneeChee 23:51, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

That's what's troubling me, memes could be good, and I don't really want to see another quoticide/chuckicide/whatevercide going along. Guildy? Mind responding to that? ~ 07:16, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Mitch Hedberg. It's almost like 4chan threw up on a single page of Uncyc. But yeah, take a look at that and then you'll know what Guildy means by "liquidation of memes." (talk) 05:59, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I'd like him to respond to that. ~ 06:35, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Basically what Knee [anti-Communist sign] Chee said. The removal of unnecessary memes. Articles on memes can stay, I suppose, but things like Mitch Hedberg the unnecessary 4chan horseshit must DIE. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 13:57, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Just be careful not to start a system wide extinction crusades without talking to one of the admins. Thanks. ~ 15:25, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

How's This?

Dieser Benutzer ist ein offizielles Mitglied Der Unwehr. Wir sind hier zu die Schwachen töten und die Starke bauen. Sieg Heil!

I like. Good job whoever. ~Orian57~ ~Talk~ 22:54 18 May 2009

Thank you Don Puttano cHeDDs 22:55,18May,2009

I wouldn't use it, since my userspace is reserved for album or song names. ---kun "whisper sweet nothings into thine ear..." 00:15, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I threw together some vector-based versions of the logo (here and here) so that we can easily Photoshop them into anything we need. — KneeChee 00:25, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Der Unwehr uber alles

Personally, I liked the usage of "jugend" since that resembled the small article that needed to be nurtured. But I don't care either way.

Some notes: the introduction seems a bit overlong to me, some of the joke (don't forget "ruthless efficiency") intended by the image of the rewriting group could be put into the first section following the introduction, in a more "in-depth" description of the group's intentions. Going with the military theme, are images (presuming they'll be added) going to be depicted as such? As for the "dibs", I'd really rather not have to say I'm "reserving" something that anyone can edit anyway. In the same vein, I wouldn't use any "this article has been targeted by Der Unwehr" templates or as such. Just so you know.

Well, I'm going to start my first rewrite already. Also, I presume all rewrites done before joining the group are not to be added to the list? I think it's fair not to, since that means anyone can take advantage of the incentive intended by the group. ---kun "whisper sweet nothings into thine ear..." 00:14, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I think the military theme works best as a sort of foil to IC, which is what I'd like this group to be to an extent. And, although short, I think the description of the group's intentions works just fine. I also agree with you in not having gratuitous templates. The one that Cheddar made suffices, and I'm thinking of having Sonje (or whomever wants to) make an award-ish template for every rank above Brigadegeneral. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 14:00, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

One thing(s)

Is there going to be any imperative to put things on VFD or QVFD? I think that having a table with successful deletions made by each member would encourage that, but still keep the main focus of rewriting stuff. (talk) 03:45, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I think that would be the absolute opposite of what the group means to do. In the same way that a PEE reviewer can't just nominate an article for deletion, no matter how bad s/he said the article was in the review. Besides, I hate seeing articles deleted. ---kun "whisper sweet nothings into thine ear..." 08:51, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

same here Don Puttano cHeDDs 19:10,19May,2009

Yeah. I mean, ideally, there wouldn't be a need to delete any articles (vanity and the like excluded), because somebody would have taken the time to make it humo(u)rous in the first place. — KneeChee 20:03, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I concur. I talked to Saberwolf, who is the VFD master, about him possibly taking the role of "Chief of the Uncycpo." Instead of just VFD every shitty article he comes across, I asked him if he could slap a rewrite tag on stuff that has rewrite potential, like Alternative Rock and Bob Marley. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 14:02, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Hmm...well, i'll think about it guildy, but I think putting stuff on VFD and having it deleted isn't that bad. Usually, if a notable subject is deleted, it's recreated- sometimes it's just better to start with a clean slate. But I suppose I will help you. You have to make a custom template for me, though ;) Saberwolf116 22:05, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

The speech

After "just kidding" you could write (whistles, boos, not a few rotten vegetables) -- Style  Guide 04:42, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I joined, and take this opportunity to, once more, tell the troops I'll co-write much rather than work alone. Not interested in rank but bouncing ideas back and forth with people. Anyone interested, leave a message on my talk page. -- Style  Guide 04:47, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

That's what the IC is for Don Puttano cHeDDs 19:11,19May,2009

I certainly don't discourage collaboration, I just don't encourage giant, massive group collaborations that take two-and-a-half weeks to write one fucking article, which is basically what IC champions. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 14:03, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

The membership chart

Please respect it. As in, when you first join, your thing should say "[your name]/0/Soldat," and nothing else. I'm fixing the chart accordingly. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 14:06, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm sowwy Mistew Guildy. Don Puttano cHeDDs 19:20,20May,2009

I am...

...working on my first rewrite (Akira Kurosawa), for those of you that care. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 18:56, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Just finished the second rewrite: Peyton Manning. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 02:19, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Does it count if you're rewriting your own article? Don Puttano cHeDDs 02:54,26May,2009

It depends. If it's exactly how you left it and you rewrite it, you get no credit. However, if your shitty article has been totally butchered by IPs or something, and is totally different from your original shitty version, then you'd get credit as normal because it's no longer "your article," per se. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 03:11, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Emblems

Der Unwehr needs something to make it distinctively Uncyclopedian. Like puzzle potatoes on the Der Unwehr flag. • • • Necropaxx (T) {~} 02:35, Jun 4

I agree. By the way, looking over this Der Unwehr thing, I'm changing my mind about it. I thought it was nazi-ish at first, but... well, it is, but it's good.   Le Cejak • <22:09 Jun 12, 2009>

Not everything German is Nazi Don Puttano cHeDDs 22:32,12June,2009

A polite request

I would appreciate it if you changed the name and mood of this organization of yours. I like what you've done for the site, but I don't appreciate all of the blatant homages to Nazi Germany. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​UU​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 19:19, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah. You're offending the cry-babies. MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 19:24, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I heard that. ~ 22:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it seems Nazi-ish. Just German in general. People just link Germany to Nazism. It's not like they're saying "Kill the jewish articles." Don Puttano cHeDDs 19:22,16June,2009

Yes, notice why I said "homages" and not "statements." If you want it to be German, then you could perhaps restructure it to reflect modern day Germany, old Prussia, or the Weimar Republic. Right now you've got subliminal Nazi Germany down to a T: the colors, the flag, and even the "Crush the Communists!" -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​UU​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 19:25, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Just like the homages to RAHB's favourite pasttime. Penisball. Damn the Blackshirts! Down with Mussolini! MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 19:28, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

There is a difference between and Don Puttano cHeDDs 19:31,16June,2009

Yes. One is a broken cross and the other is a cross. Same colour scheme, though. Throw some green on that baby. Also, throw in a baby. MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 19:37, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

The whole "Furher" thing that Guildenstern boldly parades around in his sig is a bit of a giveaway too. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​UU​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 22:05, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Plus, Propagandamaster Sonje... Though that could be hotdog propaganda. MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 22:09, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Dex, I love you man! Colour Sig For Make Mahm00shA Look Cool 22:11 June 16 '09

No gradado, don't love him! He's on their side! Don Puttano cHeDDs 22:40,16June,2009

Whose side? I'm on no ones side. I'm here to make sure it doesn't get too serious by cracking jokes about penii. MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 22:44, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

And that's why I love you, you are always making funnies in the middle of serious shit :) Colour Sig For Make Mahm00shA Look Cool 22:54 June 16 '09

Penis. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 22:55, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me, but its called PHALLUS Colour Sig For Make Mahm00shA Look Cool 23:01 June 16 '09

What were we talking about again? —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 23:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Colourful sigs and whatever happened to Enzo? MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 23:05, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

What happened to Enzo? Colour Sig For Make Mahm00shA Look Cool 23:07 June 16 '09

That's a good question. MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 23:09, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Didn't he went through some kind of Stargate? —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 23:10, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

What's an enzo? Don Puttano cHeDDs 23:17,16June,2009

You never watched ReBoot? MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 23:19, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

What's a ReBoot? Don Puttano cHeDDs 23:24,16June,2009

OK, so, yes, I understand that not everyone is a fan of the whole Nazi look to Der Unwehr, but it's not done in seriousness, mind you all, it's a parody just like anything else on this site. The title of UnFuehrer that I "boldly parade around" is a pun of sorts. At worst it can be interpreted as "Uncyclopedia Leader," and at best "Un-Leader," so there. The military ranks used are no worse than the ones that IC uses, and all the other titles have no Nazi analog at all. So there. The group's emblem is an Iron Cross, which may seem a bit Nazi-ish until you realize it predates the Nazis by several hundred years. In regards to the question of changing templates etc., they're all made, and I for one think Cheddar did a fuckin' awesome job, and I'm not about to ask him to redo everything because someone's overly-tender disposition has been offended by something that is clearly a parody. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 13:24, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Kwick Kwestion...

...does VFG influence point totals in any way? Thanks!--You know what the music means... Our time is up. 20:22, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

No, sorry. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 13:25, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Special Points

Well, I've done quite a bit of wrk to the portals, and I still have quite a bit more to do. How many points is this worth? Cheers, ~Formerly Annoying Crap 20:30, 18 June 2009

Hey just checking in

I noticed that you havent done anything to try to change your appearance so get on that please thank youv -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​UU​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 05:17, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Read above, thanks. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 13:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Why should I become a member?

Actually, that's a bogus question, as the answer is on the main page. I just needed an excuse to write on here, which as I've just pointed out that that is a bogus question, that screws up that excuse.

Where is Rosencrantzencrantz? Is he dead?

Having said that however I was out shopping recently and came across these in my local shopping centre chemist. I thought you might appreciate them. (Iron cross, red cross, what's the difference Pup t 23:34, 20/07/2009really?)

Articles already completed before you joined

I'm just wondering if articles that you wrote before you joined can count towards the victory count. Because I wrote articles for Selling coal to Newcastle and Alien abduction insurance just yesterday and today after seeing them on the requested articles page, but I didn't join this group until just now. So yeah, just wondering. Sequence 14:25, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

They can count, absolutely. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 15:59, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Previous stuff counts? Awsome, I was never told that. I deserve points!    Orian57    Talk   15:51 11 August 2009

Actually I won't bother. The two that I have in my history are amongst my earliest and probably in need of a re-write themselves.    Orian57    Talk   15:55 11 August 2009

Another Kwick Kwestion...

When we are rewriting articles, are we allowed to write something about the subject material, but under a different name, and then redirect the original article to the new page? For example, I am going to rewrite Bowling, but have a good idea for an UnBooks about the subject Matter. Is that okay? ^{Pirate Lord}__Sonic80 (Yell  •  Latest literary excretion) __ 22:01, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Wait hold on

Ex post facto rewrites can count?! Yes!! • • • Necropaxx (T) {~} Thursday, 16:40, Oct 22 2009

Carnies

Checked on your story at Pee Review. I don't think it works. Ok I understand what you have done but suggest the historical background doesn't really add anything to the article as it stands. That could be at best abbreviated. I would have concentrated more on what Carnies do today and the idea of you getting ripped off for $4 a bottle of water...--RomArtus*Imperator ® (Orate) 01:06, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Some suggestions

User:MrCleveland left me a message about needing some help with two articles he's created, F-Troop and Mork and Mindy. I've listed them on UN:COLLAB but thought I'd inform Der Unwehr to see if anyone was interested in looking them over. MadMax 14:04, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

a question?

If jenny got into the top 10 after joining the du, but it was made before, does it count for the 5 points? »» Back ² Tha Hood»» 22:56,5February,2010

A bit of a refocus

Been thinking a teeny bit about DU... I've been looking at the list of vital pages, and there's a fair few redlinks and a fair few of those that aren't redlinks are... well, frankly, crap. I'm thinking that a DU week where people get bonus points for either writing one of those articles or rewriting a bad one. Something like a Vitality week? What do you think? Pup 22:22, 9/02/2010

Is It Fixed?

I've done extensive reconstruction of this page, and I need a final opinion from leadership. --Gamma287 ☭Tetяis? 22:39, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Have you thought about popping it on PEE Review? Pup 11:05 25 Feb '11

Thanks for the suggestion. It's on there now. --Gamma287 ☭Tetяis? 19:41, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

It got reviewed. --Gamma287's Big, Extravagant Signature 00:35, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Hello? --Gamma287 ☭Tetяis? 03:44, June 26, 2011 (UTC)