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It has too much stuff. Mainly the interaction thing - it's twice as big as Wikipedia's, and a lot of it is pretty redundant. And the projects thing is bloody giant if you don't have javascript...

Anyway, I guess I'm asking...

  • Do you people use all of that?
  • Which ones do folks use?
  • Would there be a better way to group some of these?
  • Should we perhaps start using the Community Portal at some point?
  • What, even, is the Community Portal?
  • In fact, what are most of those, and how should a new user or reader or random passerby even know what they're for? I mean, I don't even know. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy.png 16:26, 17 September 2011
Here are my answers: Yes, all of them, no, yes to join the Folding@home team, a way to find the link to Uncyclopedia's Folding@home team and who cares. --ChiefjusticeXBox 16:34, September 17, 2011 (UTC)
That's not exactly filling me with confidence. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy.png 16:52, 17 September 2011
You're already full of something else. Yes, that's right. You're full of candy. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 17:04, September 17, 2011 (UTC)
I like candy. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy.png 17:16, 17 September 2011
i herd u liek me. u rly rly liek me!!! --RARR! PLEB SIR Lollipop (TALK) - updated on 20 September 2011, at 01:40
I like it when you do things for me. Naughty things. Things like finishing roofing my shed for half-pay so I don't feed you to my cats. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy.png 02:59, 20 September 2011
For the last time, i'm done with buying vibrating mouse toys for your sexually encouraged cat. Ask Magic man to do that for you, he visits "pet"shops most every day. --RARR! PLEB SIR Lollipop (TALK) - updated on 20 September 2011, at 04:22

I use the sidebar all the time. You can get rid of the projets, and the toolbox, but let everything else stay. Seriously, i use it every time i come on, it's good. Fuck the community portal, and the ones i use are the following: Village Dump, Chatroom, VFH, VFP, Upcoming events, and Things to do. Although I dontr use the projects tab that much, at least keep HowTo therr, everyone loves that. Aimsplode (Der_Führerbunker--Wehrmacht Factories) Happy Holidays! 01:39, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

I agree its gotten pretty big over the years. When I last edited the sidebar, I tried to compensate by adding the most vital links under "Navigation" and "Interaction" (mirroring Wikipedia) and the "classic" sidebar under "Community". Though I don't use the sidebar as much as I used to, I did rely heavily Things to do during my early years here. I think it'd be helpful for a lot of newer users (especially those who might not be comfortable using Special:SpecialPages or Category:Uncyclopedia maintenance). Personally, I think the best way to reorganize the sidebar is to use Wikipedia's version. Anything leftover could be sorted into a third section or maybe incorporated into something like Wikipedia's recent changes header? MadMax 03:01, September 18, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, why not. Just need to not completely overdo it like they did... *shifty eyes* 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy.png 03:00, 20 September 2011
The community portal should be revamped. It would be a great chance to make a page with a comprehensive list of the links that any uncuyclopedia would need and give new users a good idea of the various spaces on uncyclopedia. Im willing to take part in a revamps--ShabiDOO 18:45, September 18, 2011 (UTC)
Great. Please do. Like, in userspace for now, though. Or something. Totally. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy.png 02:59, 20 September 2011
I say keep them all there, they are all useful in my view. Talk Mattsnow 07:54, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
All 40 links? Feel free to express that opinion by voting below. Sir SockySexy girls.jpg Mermaid with dolphin.jpg Tired Marilyn Monroe.jpg (talk) (stalk)Magnemite.gif Icons-flag-be.png GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotYPotM WotM 07:56, 20 September 2011
OK you're right, there are some who are useless, but the majority is useful. I'll vote against the useless ones. But there should be a link that links to all these links who are mildly useful, do you get my drill? Talk Mattsnow 09:39, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
Just finished the first version of the recent changes template. MadMax 09:11, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
Hmm, what exactly does that template do, MadMax? Sir SockySexy girls.jpg Mermaid with dolphin.jpg Tired Marilyn Monroe.jpg (talk) (stalk)Magnemite.gif Icons-flag-be.png GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotYPotM WotM 09:18, 20 September 2011
It's a version of Wikipedia's recent changes template to replace the current one. In theory, it could be used for links removed from the sidebar. MadMax 09:27, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

Enough!

Time to put this bugger to a vote! Sir SockySexy girls.jpg Mermaid with dolphin.jpg Tired Marilyn Monroe.jpg (talk) (stalk)Magnemite.gif Icons-flag-be.png GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotYPotM WotM 07:26, 20 September 2011

Navigation

Main page

Score: 2

Featured content

Score: 5

Current events

Score: 4

Recent changes

Score: 8

Random article

Score: 4

Requested articles

Score: 4

All of the above

Score: TKF + For + Filial Piety +HALP! = PROFIT!!!

Interaction

Help

Score: 4

About Uncyclopedia

Score: 4

Community portal

Score: 2
  • Symbol for vote.svg For. This link links to a lot of links that are proposed for deletion, so if it is maintained, I am in favor of eliminating the links that this link links to. Talk Mattsnow 09:59, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote.svg Abstain. Aimsplode (Der_Führerbunker--Wehrmacht Factories) Happy Holidays! 17:58, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote.svg Stain on my shirt. ~[thehappyspaceman] mightfirehislazer 02:15, 09/21/2011
  • comment: Symbol for vote.svg For.. --ShabiDOO 14:02, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • I'm still not sure what this is. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy.png 16:07, 21 September 2011
  • Symbol neutral vote.svg Abstain. — Capitalis quadrata Y.SVG (talk) (contributions) 15:16, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

What's happening

Score: 3
  • Symbol for vote.svg For. Looking at stats is fun. Talk Mattsnow 10:00, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote.svg For. Definitely. Aimsplode (Der_Führerbunker--Wehrmacht Factories) Happy Holidays! 17:58, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote.svg Nobody cares. ~[thehappyspaceman] mightfirehislazer 02:15, 09/21/2011
  • comment: Symbol for vote.svg For.. --ShabiDOO 14:02, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol declined.svg Against. Not likely to mean anything to the average reader/user and also takes too long to load to be useful. Putting it on the recentchanges template would probably make more sense. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy.png 16:07, 21 September 2011
  • Symbol for vote.svg Weak, weak, for. — Capitalis quadrata Y.SVG (talk) (contributions) 15:16, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Things to do

Score: 5

Village Dump

Score: 7

Chatroom

Score: 5

Pee Review

Score: 3

Votes for Highlight

Score: 6

Votes for Pictures

Score: 4

Upcoming events

Score: -5
  • Symbol declined.svg Against. There are few of them and they are always advertised on the top banner anyway Talk Mattsnow 09:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol declined.svg Against. Aimsplode (Der_Führerbunker--Wehrmacht Factories) Happy Holidays! 17:58, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Against That's what the sitenotice is for. -- The Zombiebaron 18:07, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol declined.svg Against. It seems that ZB has a valid point. --Sai.png Jack Phoenix, professional killer admin (Whine?) (Wikia ads) 18:33, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote.svg Maybe so, maybe not. Just in case I change my mind, I'm not voting against. ~[thehappyspaceman] mightfirehislazer 02:15, 09/21/2011
  • Symbol for vote.svg For.. --ShabiDOO 14:02, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol declined.svg Against. - Things to do/community portal/forums/sitenotice should already cover this - having the link relevant places (say, contest pages) for those curious certainly wouldn't hurt, though. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy.png 16:07, 21 September 2011
  • Symbol declined.svg Per Lyrithya. — Capitalis quadrata Y.SVG (talk) (contributions) 15:16, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Report a problem

Score: -1
  • Symbol declined.svg Against. If you know the site enough to identify a problem, you know the site enough to find an admin. Talk Mattsnow 09:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
But th n again, th r ar n w us rs who don't put th s The letter "e" in s nt nc s and can't find an admin. — Capitalis quadrata Y.SVG (talk) (contributions) 20:57, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

Projects

Score: 0
  • Symbol declined.svg Against. It's collapsed by default and therefore I never use it. --Sai.png Jack Phoenix, professional killer admin (Whine?) (Wikia ads) 18:33, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
    • Symbol comment vote.svg Comment. The idea behind this was to try to promote the various projects here. If this isn't working, then perhaps we need a better idea (not that a better idea wouldn't necessarily be nice anyway), and if the projects themselves aren't worth promoting, well... you know. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy.png 21:01, 20 September 2011
  • Symbol for vote.svg .roF I think that this is a jolly good idea! Who's going to scroll down to the very bottom of them main page, anyway? ~[thehappyspaceman] mightfirehislazer 02:15, 09/21/2011
  • Symbol for vote.svg For. - See my suggestion below. -- Simsilikesims(♀UN) Talk here. 02:32, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol declined.svg NO — Capitalis quadrata Y.SVG (talk) (contributions) 15:17, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote.svg For. 85% of everything listed on here. User:DJ Mixerr/sig DJ Mixerr 04:46, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Remove Projects section and put a link to a main Projects page in the main Navigation

Basically, that thing Simsilikesims was saying, but more... specific?

Score: -1
  • Honestly, against - I'd still contend that the things need as much visibility as possible, at least the main ones. Perhaps taking it down to four or five main ones and then having an All Projects page to link to for a complete overview and for the other ones would work better? 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy.png 16:22, 21 September 2011

Babel

Score: -2
  • Against.This one is useless, since all the languages are listed at the bottom of the sidebar. Talk Mattsnow 09:35, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol declined.svg Against. Aimsplode (Der_Führerbunker--Wehrmacht Factories) Happy Holidays! 18:01, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote.svg C'mon, Babel is part of Uncyclopedia! ~[thehappyspaceman] mightfirehislazer 02:15, 09/21/2011
  • Symbol declined.svg Against. It is? But while linking here somewhere would definitely be useful to some folks, I don't think the sidebar is the best place. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy.png 16:22, 21 September 2011

Bestiary

Score: -4

Game

Score: 2

HowTo

Score: 3 + a fake vote

UnBooks

Score: 3

Uncycloversity

Score: -2

UnDebate

Score: 2

Undictionary

Score: 1

UnNews

Score: 2

UnPoetia

Score: 2
  • Symbol for vote.svg For. Talk Mattsnow 09:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol declined.svg No Aimsplode (Der_Führerbunker--Wehrmacht Factories) Happy Holidays! 18:08, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote.svg Abdominal Snowman! Symbol for vote.svg Foreplay! ~[thehappyspaceman] mightfirehislazer 02:15, 09/21/2011
  • Symbol for vote.svg For this and everything else that's close except for Babel No time to go through every listing, please add one more to everything when you count them, and that will be me. Thanks! Aleister 3:42 21-9-'11
  • As it is technically part of UnBooks, doesn't need to be here... but on the other hand, it is also basically its own project at this point. On the other other hand, it tends to utterly suck. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy.png 16:22, 21 September 2011

Unquotable

Score: -1

UnReviews

Score: 1

UnScripts

Score: 1

UnTunes

Score: 3

Why?

Score: 2 + a fake vote

Additional things people might like to vote on

I will never vote on any of these in a million billion years because there are so many voting headers

Score: 0
  • Symbol for vote.svg For. --ChiefjusticeXBox 18:29, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote.svg Abstain. That's what I told myself at first, but once you start, it's a vicious cycle. Talk Mattsnow 20:28, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol declined.svg Well, funny story... I voted all at once on the toolbox section, than Zombiebaron submitted an edit during my edit, so I deleted all the shit he wrote and put back in the shit I wrote, which resulted in a nice, 24hr ban. Aimsplode (Der_Führerbunker--Wehrmacht Factories) Happy Holidays! 23:15, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

Adding a link to the UnSignpost in the sidebar because people should look at it more often

Score: 5
PLEASE STOP! THAT IS FUNNY, IS IT NOT? — Capitalis quadrata Y.SVG (talk) (contributions) 20:55, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

Adding a link to Special:CreatePage

Score: 1
  • Symbol for vote.svg For. The only downside is, it creates an easier way for vandals and spambots and IPs and 10-year-olds to add more poo. — Capitalis quadrata Y.SVG (talk) (contributions) 21:07, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote.svg For a second there, I thought that was Jimmy Fallon with the "POO" sign. Aimsplode (Der_Führerbunker--Wehrmacht Factories) Happy Holidays! 23:18, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol declined.svg Against.. Per Mnid, who made all the right arguments to vote against his proposition! :) Talk Mattsnow 22:02, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
    Symbol for vote.svg For Mattsnow's vote. — Capitalis quadrata Y.SVG (talk) (contributions) 15:04, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Creating a separate page for summarizing UnProjects, along with a brief explanation of each on that page

Score: 3

As a parody of Wikipedia, our sidebar should be as similar as possible to Wikipedia's

Score: -3
  • Nom and For. Our default sidebar should be as close to Wikipedia's as possible, and then users can add to their sidebar's using javascript. I have links to VFD, QVFD, BP, and UN:M in my sidebar that I find very useful. -- The Zombiebaron 03:35, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol declined.svg Against. I don't have a problem with looking like Wikipedia, but I do have an issue with this fervent we-need-to-have-everything-exactly-like-Wikipedia-has-it-ism. So, being as similar as is desirable, but not to the point where it needlessly messes up the site? Yes. Being as similar as possible? Hell no. Sir SockySexy girls.jpg Mermaid with dolphin.jpg Tired Marilyn Monroe.jpg (talk) (stalk)Magnemite.gif Icons-flag-be.png GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotYPotM WotM 11:13, 21 September 2011
  • I'd say so, at least to a point - Wikipedia is just an encyclopaedia, but Uncyclopedia is like trying to parody bloody every wikimedia project mashed together along with a bunch of other unaffiliated wikis also thrown in. So... yeah. Eh. How do you even organise that? 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy.png 16:12, 21 September 2011
  • Symbol declined.svg Against. Ergo Tintin. --Laurels.gifRomArtus*Imperator ® (Orate) 18:57, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol declined.svg Wikipedia sucks ass, remember? Aimsplode (Der_Führerbunker--Wehrmacht Factories) Happy Holidays! 23:30, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol declined.svg  The balls are inert. -- Tinypony.gif Sir "TheSlyPony" Invariably certifiable. Rap sheet. [[::File:Sexy_twilight.jpeg|His shameless obsession.]] 13:37 September 22, 2011 (UTC)

As a parody of Wikipedia we should have one useless link...like a link that you can't click on or that makes the screen blow up

Score: 3
  • Symbol for vote.svg For. It should link to somewhere, like a fake ad page, or an obviously fake virus-destroying-your-machine page or something. -- Tinypony.gif Sir "TheSlyPony" Invariably certifiable. Rap sheet. [[::File:Sexy_twilight.jpeg|His shameless obsession.]] 01:29 September 22, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote.svg For god's sakes, I personally think it should link here. ~[thehappyspaceman] mightfirehislazer 02:16, 09/22/2011
  • Symbol for vote.svg For Buy Lion Bars, although, . — Capitalis quadrata Y.SVG (talk) (contributions) 20:53, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote.svg It's about time. User:DJ Mixerr/sig DJ Mixerr 04:32, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

A vote on whether to streamline the bloated sidebar by removing two links...then adding three new ones.

Score: 2
  • Symbol for vote.svg A definite "For!" Why? Because folks don't do quite enough pointless things around here. Now, if you'll exqueeze me, I'm busy doing a terrible rewrite of a slightly more terrible article from VFD, which no one will ever read, and which will be deleted during the 2015 Forest Fire Week. ⇒»Biz E.B. Ver Icons-flag-us.png (gabble) 08:09, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol declined.svg Against. Symbol declined.svg Against. Symbol for vote.svg For. Symbol for vote.svg For. Symbol for vote.svg For. Aimsplode (Der_Führerbunker--Wehrmacht Factories) Happy Holidays! 23:07, September 22, 2011 (UTC)