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It has too much stuff. Mainly the interaction thing - it's twice as big as Wikipedia's, and a lot of it is pretty redundant. And the projects thing is bloody giant if you don't have javascript...
Anyway, I guess I'm asking...
- Do you people use all of that?
- Which ones do folks use?
- Would there be a better way to group some of these?
- Should we perhaps start using the Community Portal at some point?
- What, even, is the Community Portal?
- In fact, what are most of those, and how should a new user or reader or random passerby even know what they're for? I mean, I don't even know. ~
16:26, 17 September 2011
- Here are my answers: Yes, all of them, no, yes to join the Folding@home team, a way to find the link to Uncyclopedia's Folding@home team and who cares. --ChiefjusticeGameCube 16:34, September 17, 2011 (UTC)
- That's not exactly filling me with confidence. ~ 16:52, 17 September 2011
- You're already full of something else. Yes, that's right. You're full of candy. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 17:04, September 17, 2011 (UTC)
- I like candy. ~ 17:16, 17 September 2011
- I like candy. ~
- You're already full of something else. Yes, that's right. You're full of candy. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 17:04, September 17, 2011 (UTC)
- That's not exactly filling me with confidence. ~
I use the sidebar all the time. You can get rid of the projets, and the toolbox, but let everything else stay. Seriously, i use it every time i come on, it's good. Fuck the community portal, and the ones i use are the following: Village Dump, Chatroom, VFH, VFP, Upcoming events, and Things to do. Although I dontr use the projects tab that much, at least keep HowTo therr, everyone loves that. →
(Der_Führerbunker--Wehrmacht Factories) 01:39, September 18, 2011 (UTC)
- I agree its gotten pretty big over the years. When I last edited the sidebar, I tried to compensate by adding the most vital links under "Navigation" and "Interaction" (mirroring Wikipedia) and the "classic" sidebar under "Community". Though I don't use the sidebar as much as I used to, I did rely heavily Things to do during my early years here. I think it'd be helpful for a lot of newer users (especially those who might not be comfortable using Special:SpecialPages or Category:Uncyclopedia maintenance). Personally, I think the best way to reorganize the sidebar is to use Wikipedia's version. Anything leftover could be sorted into a third section or maybe incorporated into something like Wikipedia's recent changes header? MadMax 03:01, September 18, 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, why not. Just need to not completely overdo it like they did... *shifty eyes* ~ 03:00, 20 September 2011
- Yeah, why not. Just need to not completely overdo it like they did... *shifty eyes* ~
- The community portal should be revamped. It would be a great chance to make a page with a comprehensive list of the links that any uncuyclopedia would need and give new users a good idea of the various spaces on uncyclopedia. Im willing to take part in a revamps--ShabiDOO 18:45, September 18, 2011 (UTC)
- Great. Please do. Like, in userspace for now, though. Or something. Totally. ~ 02:59, 20 September 2011
- Great. Please do. Like, in userspace for now, though. Or something. Totally. ~
- I say keep them all there, they are all useful in my view.
Mattsnow 07:54, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
- All 40 links? Feel free to express that opinion by voting below. —Sir Socky
(talk) (stalk)
GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 07:56, 20 September 2011
- OK you're right, there are some who are useless, but the majority is useful. I'll vote against the useless ones. But there should be a link that links to all these links who are mildly useful, do you get my drill? Mattsnow 09:39, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
- OK you're right, there are some who are useless, but the majority is useful. I'll vote against the useless ones. But there should be a link that links to all these links who are mildly useful, do you get my drill?
- All 40 links? Feel free to express that opinion by voting below. —Sir Socky
- The community portal should be revamped. It would be a great chance to make a page with a comprehensive list of the links that any uncuyclopedia would need and give new users a good idea of the various spaces on uncyclopedia. Im willing to take part in a revamps--ShabiDOO 18:45, September 18, 2011 (UTC)
- Just finished the first version of the recent changes template. MadMax 09:11, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
- It's a version of Wikipedia's recent changes template to replace the current one. In theory, it could be used for links removed from the sidebar. MadMax 09:27, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
Enough!
Time to put this bugger to a vote! —Sir Socky
(talk) (stalk)
GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 07:26, 20 September 2011
Main pageScore: 2
Featured contentScore: 5
Current eventsScore: 4
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Recent changesScore: 8
Random articleScore: 4
Requested articlesScore: 4
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Against. The logo already links there. 
For. Not everyone knows that. ![[thehappyspaceman]](http://images.uncyclomedia.co/uncyclopedia/en/thumb/1/17/Ths.jpg/20px-Ths.jpg){kind=small}
Abstain. 
Comment. Please stop. — All of the above
Score: TKF + For + Filial Piety +HALP! = PROFIT!!!
TKFU
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK 
02:31, September 22, 2011 (UTC)- For —
(talk) (contributions) 20:58, September 22, 2011 (UTC) - Filial Piety. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 21:09, 22 September 2011
- HALP! — (talk) (contributions) 15:11, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
Interaction
HelpScore: 4
About UncyclopediaScore: 4
Community portalScore: 2
What's happeningScore: 3
Things to doScore: 5
Village DumpScore: 7
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ChatroomScore: 5
Pee ReviewScore: 3
Votes for HighlightScore: 6
Votes for PicturesScore: 4
Upcoming eventsScore: -5
Report a problemScore: -1
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Projects
Score: 0
Against. It's collapsed by default and therefore I never use it. --
Jack Phoenix, professional killeradmin (Whine?) • (Wikia ♥ ads) 18:33, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
Comment. The idea behind this was to try to promote the various projects here. If this isn't working, then perhaps we need a better idea (not that a better idea wouldn't necessarily be nice anyway), and if the projects themselves aren't worth promoting, well... you know. ~ 21:01, 20 September 2011
.roF I think that this is a jolly good idea! Who's going to scroll down to the very bottom of them main page, anyway? ~![[thehappyspaceman]](//images.uncyclomedia.co/uncyclopedia/en/thumb/1/17/Ths.jpg/20px-Ths.jpg)
has • kidnapped • your • mum 02:15, 09/21/2011- For. - See my suggestion below. -- Simsilikesims(♀UN) Talk here. 02:32, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
- NO — (talk) (contributions) 15:17, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
- For. 85% of everything listed on here. User:DJ Mixerr/sig DJ Mixerr 04:46, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
Basically, that thing Simsilikesims was saying, but more... specific?
Score: -1
- Honestly, against - I'd still contend that the things need as much visibility as possible, at least the main ones. Perhaps taking it down to four or five main ones and then having an All Projects page to link to for a complete overview and for the other ones would work better? ~ 16:22, 21 September 2011
BabelScore: -2
BestiaryScore: -4
GameScore: 2
HowToScore: 3 + a fake vote
UnBooksScore: 3
UncycloversityScore: -2
UnDebateScore: 2
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UndictionaryScore: 1
UnNewsScore: 2
UnPoetiaScore: 2
UnquotableScore: -1
UnReviewsScore: 1
UnScriptsScore: 1
UnTunesScore: 3
Why?Score: 2 + a fake vote
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Toolbox
You better start believing in troll threads, because you're in one. I'm just saying that you're not gonna remove the toolbox without a lot of epic JS hackery, and that'd still be pointless. --
Jack Phoenix, professional killer admin (Whine?) • (Wikia ♥ ads) 18:33, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
- We can dream, can't we? —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 18:40, 20 September 2011
- Actually, it's pretty simple, and css would do it too, but I agree on the bit about it being pretty pointless. Seriously, guys, this is part of the software, not stuff we've added for various reasons over the years, and thus not what this forum was even remotely about, so kindly buzz off. If you want to go adding/removing stuff from the toolbox, please start a new forum and provide some actual convincing arguments. ~ 20:11, 20 September 2011
- Actually, it's pretty simple, and css would do it too, but I agree on the bit about it being pretty pointless. Seriously, guys, this is part of the software, not stuff we've added for various reasons over the years, and thus not what this forum was even remotely about, so kindly buzz off. If you want to go adding/removing stuff from the toolbox, please start a new forum and provide some actual convincing arguments. ~
What links here
Score: 3
- For. I use this rather often. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 07:39, 20 September 2011
- For. Me too. Mattsnow 09:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
- Foo Fighters. I use it a lot. ~ has • kidnapped • your • mum 02:15, 09/21/2011
Related changes
Score: -2
- Against. I never use this. What does it even do for that matter? —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 07:41, 20 September 2011
- Against. Mattsnow 09:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
Abstain. ~ has • kidnapped • your • mum 02:15, 09/21/2011
Upload photo
Score: 4
- For. Useful, I guess. I'd prefer if it said "picture" instead of "photo", though. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 07:42, 20 September 2011
- For.--
RomArtus*Imperator ® (Orate) 09:09, September 20, 2011 (UTC) - For. Mattsnow 09:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
- Who'd vote against this? Morons, that's who. ~ has • kidnapped • your • mum 02:15, 09/21/2011
Special pages
Score: 2
- For. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 07:43, 20 September 2011
- For. Mattsnow 09:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
- Abstain. ~ has • kidnapped • your • mum 02:15, 09/21/2011
Printable version
Score: -1
- Abstain. I never print articles and don't see the point in doing so. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 07:44, 20 September 2011
- Against. Mattsnow 09:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
- Abstain. ~ has • kidnapped • your • mum 02:15, 09/21/2011
Permanent link
Score: 0
- Against. Mattsnow 09:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
- For -- The Zombiebaron 18:11, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
- Abstain. ~ has • kidnapped • your • mum 02:15, 09/21/2011
Upload multiple files
Score: 0
Additional things people might like to vote on
I will never vote on any of these in a million billion years because there are so many voting headers
Score: 0
- For. --ChiefjusticeGameCube 18:29, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
- Abstain. That's what I told myself at first, but once you start, it's a vicious cycle. Mattsnow 20:28, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
- Well, funny story... I voted all at once on the toolbox section, than Zombiebaron submitted an edit during my edit, so I deleted all the shit he wrote and put back in the shit I wrote, which resulted in a nice, 24hr ban. →
(Der_Führerbunker--Wehrmacht Factories) 23:15, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
- points and laughs* — (talk) (contributions) 15:07, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
- points and laughs* —
Adding a link to the UnSignpost in the sidebar because people should look at it more often
Score: 5
- For. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 18:46, 20 September 2011
- Big for. I hear the guy who writes it is actually funny. Mattsnow 20:28, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
- FOR! — (talk) (contributions) 21:07, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
- FOR!--ShabiDOO 23:23, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
- PLEASE STOP! THAT IS FUNNY, IS IT NOT? — (talk) (contributions) 20:55, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
- For. Yeah what the fuck....→ (Der_Führerbunker--Wehrmacht Factories) 23:30, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
Adding a link to Special:CreatePage
Score: 1
- For. The only downside is, it creates an easier way for vandals and spambots and IPs and 10-year-olds to add more poo. — (talk) (contributions) 21:07, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
- For a second there, I thought that was Jimmy Fallon with the "POO" sign. → (Der_Führerbunker--Wehrmacht Factories) 23:18, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
- Against.. Per Mnid, who made all the right arguments to vote against his proposition! :) Mattsnow 22:02, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
- For Mattsnow's vote. — (talk) (contributions) 15:04, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
Creating a separate page for summarizing UnProjects, along with a brief explanation of each on that page
Score: 3
- For. That way users without Javascript can just click on the Unprojects page, without having to go back to the main page, and the sidebar gets less complicated, with only one link to click on (similarly to how the help page is set up now). Also, there would be less to vote on. -- Simsilikesims(♀UN) Talk here. 02:30, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
- For. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 11:14, 21 September 2011
- For. → (Der_Führerbunker--Wehrmacht Factories) 23:30, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
As a parody of Wikipedia, our sidebar should be as similar as possible to Wikipedia's
Score: -3
- Nom and For. Our default sidebar should be as close to Wikipedia's as possible, and then users can add to their sidebar's using javascript. I have links to VFD, QVFD, BP, and UN:M in my sidebar that I find very useful. -- The Zombiebaron 03:35, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
- Against. I don't have a problem with looking like Wikipedia, but I do have an issue with this fervent we-need-to-have-everything-exactly-like-Wikipedia-has-it-ism. So, being as similar as is desirable, but not to the point where it needlessly messes up the site? Yes. Being as similar as possible? Hell no. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 11:13, 21 September 2011
- I'd say so, at least to a point - Wikipedia is just an encyclopaedia, but Uncyclopedia is like trying to parody bloody every wikimedia project mashed together along with a bunch of other unaffiliated wikis also thrown in. So... yeah. Eh. How do you even organise that? ~ 16:12, 21 September 2011
- Against. Ergo Tintin. --RomArtus*Imperator ® (Orate) 18:57, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
- Wikipedia sucks ass, remember? → (Der_Führerbunker--Wehrmacht Factories) 23:30, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
- The balls are inert. --
Sir "TheSlyPony" Invariably certifiable. Rap sheet. [[::File:Sexy_twilight.jpeg|His shameless obsession.]] 13:37 September 22, 2011 (UTC)
As a parody of Wikipedia we should have one useless link...like a link that you can't click on or that makes the screen blow up
Score: 3
- For. It should link to somewhere, like a fake ad page, or an obviously fake virus-destroying-your-machine page or something. -- Sir "TheSlyPony" Invariably certifiable. Rap sheet. [[::File:Sexy_twilight.jpeg|His shameless obsession.]] 01:29 September 22, 2011 (UTC)
- For god's sakes, I personally think it should link here. ~ has • kidnapped • your • mum 02:16, 09/22/2011
- For Buy Lion Bars, although, . — (talk) (contributions) 20:53, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
- It's about time. User:DJ Mixerr/sig DJ Mixerr 04:32, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
A vote on whether to streamline the bloated sidebar by removing two links...then adding three new ones.
Score: 2
- A definite "For!" Why? Because folks don't do quite enough pointless things around here. Now, if you'll exqueeze me, I'm busy doing a terrible rewrite of a slightly more terrible article from VFD, which no one will ever read, and which will be deleted during the 2015 Forest Fire Week. ⇒»Biz E.B. Ver
(gabble) 08:09, September 22, 2011 (UTC) - Against. Against. For. For. For. → (Der_Führerbunker--Wehrmacht Factories) 23:07, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
