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OK, I just had to make another, more serious looking topic just in case "Portals Schmortals" gets ignored because of the "wacky title". Not very solid judgement there on my part. Below is what I know is happening now. All who are interested in this portals thingy please leave word of your intentions here.

Who does what

• Silly Angel is on team. Silly Angel, when you know which portal you pick, write it below this comment.
• Mnbvcxz has made Games portal. Mnbvcxz, if you will make others tell us here.
• Orian57 started a Portal on Technology and Computers.
• RabbiTechno said he'll run Art portal, I'll make it with him soon
• I have made Science portal, it's more or less running, help with it if you want to

And of course...

...it makes things easier if all of us discuss all of this in this of all forums. Not brilliant organising on my part not to understand it right away - but you can refer to my comment on my electrics system on Forum:Space rewrite...?

General question about how you would like it...

I suppose an article could stay featured in any given portal for as long as two weeks but not much longer. Maybe a week is quite enough or people will stop checking if anything happens. Perhaps a couple of days in the beginning and then gradually stretch it to a week (but not the way things tend to go - I won't suggest we'll stretch it to a year, eventually). What do you think? -- Style  Guide 05:58, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Politics

I call the Politics Portal... and Multili where did you get the header image for the science one? - - - Silly Angel Speak Contribs 09:46, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I made it myself - but there's a place to request for images. Ask some admin or so - I forget where it was since I've never requested any. -- Style  Guide 10:52, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok, well if you or someone else could make an image for politics that would be great. Politics Portal - - - Silly Angel Speak Contribs 11:01, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

It's a wiki, no need to call anything... • Spang • ☃ • talk • 13:41, 26 May 2009

Nah (not nah but the other, not meh either...?) just to avoid duplicating work in the initial stage. -- Style  Guide 13:44, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

These things do take a good while to setup initially. Most of the work goes into creating the randomly-selected lists (i.e. did you knows and the like). --Mnb'z 18:23, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

That's why. -- Style  Guide 18:34, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

All I need to do is figure out how to get a good header image... i might spork the potatos from yours Multili. And I think that it is pretty good, what else do you think I need to change on the portal? - - - Silly Angel Speak Contribs 18:45, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

What Other Portals...

...do you guys plan on doing? If I might make some suggestions:

• Music
• History
• Literature
• Cinema & Theater
• Sports
• Mathematics
• Popular Culture

etc. I wouldn't mind running something like the Literature or History portal, if you guys deem one (or both) subjects portal-worthy. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 23:04, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Those both are portal-worthy of course. Wikipedia has the subcategory portals as subportals to category portals, which is a good way to have them but for one thing: it takes a lot of time to set up all worthy subcategory portals. My opinion is, it might be more practical to make the 8 (or if it gets changed by court order, more) main category portals and concentrate on producing good material for them, by selecting, proofreading, rewriting. That way we would have more traffic in them, which I suppose would at least initially look better than a large selection of half-made portals (which could but won't necessarily happen). On the other hand, if we do it the Mnbvcxz way and just include somewhere on the page a list of featured articles in the category, it won't look all bad. Depends on who does it and how, I guess - I have more than enough with Science portal only. -- Style  Guide 07:51, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I bet Mnbvcxz is doing one about some kind of thingy related to the producing of offspring right now. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 23:06, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

We are covering these first:

Politics, Games, Computers, History, People, Quaint, Coherent,

bu go and start on another one and we will find a place for it!

And I have semi-claimed History, but we could do a colab on it. - - - Silly Angel Speak Contribs 23:10, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Do we really need "Quaint" and "Coherent" portals? Seems sort of stupid. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 23:14, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Haha we dont, they just were included when I copied the topics from the main page. - - - Silly Angel Speak Contribs 23:28, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Guildy - maybe we could ask the Cabal (if they agree to exist long enough for us to ask) if something else could be promoted instead of Quaint and Coherent. I suppose Technology could have a main category of its own, now it's under Science. Or Society like Wikipedia has. Suggestions? -- Style  Guide 05:05, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

See what I said above for suggestions as to portal topics. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 16:06, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

What about a Religion portal? I could do that. ^{Pirate Lord}__Sonic80 (Yell  •  Latest literary excretion) __ 18:48, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

We have been confined to only creating portals from the list above, sorry. - - - Silly Angel Speak Contribs 20:24, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I'd probably put in some work on the Music portal, if we decide to go that route. I could make some sort of image for it definitely. I guess I'll start that up in my userspace when I get home today. -RAHB 22:31, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok ill put you down on the list. - - - Silly Angel Speak Contribs 10:34, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Completed Portals

Here is a list of portals that are currently being worked on or completed.

• Once you think you are finished with a portal, please contact either Multiliteralist or Silly Angel with a link to the portal, and we will look over it and pass it on to verification by an admin so that it can become official.

• I'll need to modify that a bit: if you make a portal and think it's OK, just spork it over to Mordillo or Spang to check out and decide. If you want me to read it before, I will of course do it, but I have no actual say to what gets linked on front page. Just to disambiguate. -- Style  Guide 06:14, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Completed

1. Portal:Science By Multiliteralist
2. Portal:Games I already moved this to mainspace, but it still needs a link from the mainpage. --Mnb'z 06:45, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
3. Portal:Politics - - - Silly Angel Speak Contribs 10:49, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
4. Portal:History Awaiting Approval - - - Silly Angel Speak Contribs 20:57, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
5. Portal:Art If anyone knows of any articles on art and artists that aren't in the art catergories, let me know as material is a bit sparse. Rabbi Techno kvetch Contribs FOXES 12:23, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I suggest you make it an "Art and Culture" Portal... I am creating a "Society and Lifestyle" Portal... between the two we should have it covered. ~Formerly Annoying Crap 22:41, 8 June 2009

• When you have completed a portal and it has been accepted by an admin, you may place this template on your userpage {{User:Silly Angel/Portal Creator}}

This user has created and manages the [[Portal:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}} ]] Portal that is featured on the Main Page. Honor this user.

In Progress

1. People (Just starting) By Silly Angel
2. Also, Orian57 is making one on Technology and Computers
3. Pregnancy (almost done) by Mnbvcxz
4. Music --- RAHB
5. Literature --- Guildy (see Forum:Adopt-a-Portal- now taken over by Joe9320)
6. Cinema, Television & Theater/Theatre --- Guildy (see Forum:Adopt-a-Portal) Todd Lyons
7. Culture & Society - based off the 'Life' category with a heavy dose of pop and neologisms ~Formerly Annoying Crap 19:34, 8 June 2009

Finished Sub Portals

here is a listing of sub-portals for reference

1. Portal:Portals meta-portal like wikipedia has
2. Portal:Games/Video Games
3. Portal:Games/Sonic
4. Portal:Science/Pregnancy the 4 above were created by me. --Mnb'z 16:42, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
5. Portal:Games/Bloodbath old "rouge" portal
6. Game:Main_Page for the text based games, (formerly) ran by Yettie --Mnb'z 16:42, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Do we really need...

...portals on things like "Sonic" and "Pregnancy"? I was under the impression that these would be for fairly major topics only--stuff like Science, Technology, Art, etc. Instead, I come home from my friend's house to see that there's portals on stuff like Sonic the Hedgehog and Pregnancy (why not just make Preg. under a much larger category, like "Medicine"? And put Sonic under "Games"? Seriously, now, c'mon. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 07:18, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Alright, so I just read that those are both "sub-portals", though that very fact begs another question: do we really need portals that direct to directories full of other portals? —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 07:20, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm with you on that, let's try to keep it to major subjects - re the categories on the main page. I certainly don't think pregnancy or Sonic warrants their own portal, or even a sub portal. --~ 14:05, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

In total agreement there. --UU - natter 14:09, May 27

Actually, I think the narrower sub-portals are acutally more useful, because you aren't working with a data overload. Basically, the narrower portals can give a reader an idea of whats going on in a given subject, how well this wiki covers it, what articles need fixed, et cetera. Its possible for a user to know what is going on with all the Sonic articles, but its not possible for a user to know what is going on with every game related article.

Ideally, Sonic probably should be a sub-portal of a video game portal. However, I skipped a level to see what a lower level sub-portal would look like. Also, those portals aren't hurting anything, and they do convey some useful information. --Mnb'z 16:53, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

 Against. sub portals. Overkill. ~Formerly Annoying Crap 21:40, 8 June 2009

Just My Two Cents

This is concerning aesthetics more than the actual concept (which I think is great, by the way), but am I the only person who thinks the various shades of baby blue and pastel aqua with the salmon-pink thrown in make the portal pages look ugly? You know, like...really ugly. A common rule for design is to stick with two colors, and work only with different saturation and light values of those two colors. — KneeChee 02:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

There are too many common rules for design to really worry over - but of course the designs can be modified if they look really ugly to you. I don't even notice such a thing, it's good enough if nothing slaps me in the face when I open a page. If you refer to Science portal: I just copied Dawg's user page. I think it's OK to have different hues for different actions/pieces of content but if you disagree, it's not important to me at all - change it if you want to. -- Style  Guide 05:01, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

It could just be the fact that I'm a "design student", but it seems that it would be easier to navigate, as well as more visually pleasing, if a solid blue or green (with a darker border) were used instead of the current...um...motif? Of course, this is just a suggestion for polishing up the look of the portals. I suppose if I weren't lazy, I could always make a prettier version in my userspace and present it to the portal manager for approval. — KneeChee 05:14, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Now the Science portal and I think Politics and Art also resemble Front page, which is an important point in the choice of colours. I don't govern any aspect of the portals, I'm just a guy who came up with the idea of making them and argued it with some people until this is what we have. If you want to change the outlook of them, I suggest you ask the Cabal. Mordillo and Spang have been interested in this project from the start and have helped, RAHB as well. Main thing for me personally is that the portals don't get any harder to edit (or to read), which probably isn't your idea anyway. -- Style  Guide 06:06, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

If you think you could make the colours better, by all means go for it :) • Spang • ☃ • talk • 11:48, 27 May 2009

Take Charge

Who wants to take responsibility for the upkeep of the Politics portal? Im sticking mainly with history. - - - Silly Angel Speak Contribs 19:41, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I could look after it for you. ^{Pirate Lord}__Sonic80 (Yell  •  Latest literary excretion) __ 20:13, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok, its pretty self explanitory, after a week just move the currently featured pic and atricle into the archive, change them for something else... and update the rest whever you feel like it. - - - Silly Angel Speak Contribs 20:20, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

This was a triumph.

I'm making a note here: huge success. It's hard to overstate my satisfaction. Aperture Science: We do what we must because we can. For the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead. pillow talk 19:31, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Sir - note that those who are dead are also doing what they can. It just isn't much. -- Style  Guide 14:01, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Bollocks take my misreading ability. It has done me no good. Initially I thought it was great but now I'm having severe doubts. -- Style  Guide 14:20, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

But there's no sense crying over every mistake, you just keep on trying 'til you run out of cake, and the science gets done and you make a neat gun for the people who are still alive. - T.L.B. WotM, UotM, FPrize, AotM, ANotM, PLS, UN:HS, GUN 15:49, May 31

I don't sense crying a mistake for people who are still a vile. What the hell are you thinking? -- Style  Guide 15:57, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

You're not very good at this. - T.L.B. WotM, UotM, FPrize, AotM, ANotM, PLS, UN:HS, GUN 00:41, Jun 1

Very good at what? -- Style  Guide 12:12, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

This. Obviously. P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs)

That? Oh yes, that. No, I'm not. But look at this and tell me if you can do it at all! Ha! Ha! Ha! There!! -- Style  Guide 18:37, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm not even angry. I'm being so sincere right now. Even though you broke my heart and spoiled me. And then spoiled the ending. Oh man, now I can't enjoy the game. In the end, it hurt because I was so happy for you.--<<>> 01:22, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Can I join?

I'm planning to create a portal on Maths. It won't start until July, duh. |Si Plebius Dato' Joe ang Kemador CUN|IC Kill | 09:03, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Does that mean I can have the literature portal? IronLung 09:28, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't be under the science portal? ~ 09:33, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

There appears to be an ongoing debate about the status of mathematics. Thanks to me, the Uncyclopedia Science portal now claims: "Mathematics is not a science, but adding and subtracting." You do the math. Um, the Cabal will decide the status of Maths based on front page space, I guess. -- Style  Guide 15:03, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

But the Cabal does not exist, so it's up to you. I'm doing the literature Portal instead. Maths will now be part of Science. |Si Plebius Dato' Joe ang Kemador CUN|IC Kill | 07:49, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, as it always has been. But it's not! -- Style  Guide 16:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Why not re-name the portal "Math & Science"? —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 20:57, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Or, better yet, "Math, Science, & 'fun' things"? —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 20:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't know if it would be better. I mean, I really don't. In fact I do know: now I can make fun of math on the portal front page. -- Style  Guide 15:54, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

$Math\neq Science$ They're both equally boring though. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 20:58, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes I know - Bart Simpson told me so ages ago. -- Style  Guide 16:27, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Portal Themes: A Proposal

As a professional web designer, I feel I may be able to be of some assistance here. I'd like to be in charge of skinning the portals for consistency. My objective is to use the existing design that was set up by wikipedia (our entire basis for mockery) and make it better. I agree with KneeChee27 about the two-tone effect, and I can make the templates/boxes/etc so they are amazingly simple to use. I propose that if it's okay with all of you, I start on one example portal and once the design is narrowed down I can propagate it through all the rest. What you tink??? ~Formerly Annoying Crap 16:39, 8 June 2009

Feel free to improve them. They work well enough now and resemble front page so I wouldn't go into the trouble myself. Gotta voice my opinion the "problem" with the two tones is nitpicking but monotone isn't any worse either. -- Style  Guide 17:39, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Why not create your own portal as an example? We could use a sports sub-portal Portal:Games/Sports, a Mario sub-portal Portal:Games/Mario, a Zelda sub-portal Portal:Games/Zelda, a Medicine portal Portal:Science/Medicine, or more or less anything. --Mnb'z 18:20, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Why not create a more significant portal rather than going into localized subjects again? Zana - create your portal and we can discuss this further, although I don't personally see a problem with some "artistic" freedom. ~ 19:06, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

If you can make them look better, go for it. • Spang • ☃ • talk • 20:19, 08 Jun 2009

This is my project page. I am still working on my boxen, but the schema is set up. I can make a different color theme for every portal, keeping in some delineation from the wikipedia versions. Do people want different colored boxes on the page for featured content? (Wikipedia doesn't) Let me know what you think... ~Formerly Annoying Crap 18:05, 9 June 2009

I think the page looks good. You can redo Science if you like but please keep the content organized like it is now. -- Style  Guide 20:28, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Guys, I am highly disappointed

This forum should be called Now you're thinking with Portals. – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • critchat) 17:43 Jun 09, 2009

I'll start another with the title Why didn't you think with Portals before? You must be young and inexperienced to be capable of disappointment, Doc. -- Style  Guide 20:10, 9 June 2009 (UTC)