Forum:Quoticide
As of late, I have implemented a new policy on quotes called "Quoticide". As you may have seen on certain pages, quotes can fill up an entire screen, and you have to scroll down very far in order to get to the actual article. I detest that. In order to clean up the pages that look like shit due to quotes, I am initiating a mass-deletion of quotes that make up a majority of the page. If you feel that a quote was funny and actually added to the humor of the article, feel free to put that quote back. Remember, it's quality over quantity, not the other way. -- 23:48, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- Let's create a quote policy. Here's what I propose:
- No more than five quotes per article. I was originally going to say three, but then I realized some articles may want to reference previous quotes.
- No mroe than one quote by one person except if a quote is referencing a previous quote.
- Quotes have to be funny and ORIGINAL. They also must fit the article well.
- If the quote makes an article pass HTBFANJS, ignore these rules.
--Crazyswordsman...With SAVINGS!!!! (T/C) 23:59, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- I'd argue for a special exemption in the case where the quotes carry on a reasonably funny dialog with each other. Someone added a "quotes" section near the end of Samuel Johnson which I think is quite excellent (it was an IP who dunnit, too, bless him or her). But otherwise, I say Hear, hear! There are way too many completely blah quotes hooked onto the top of articles like used toilet tissue on a prickly pear cactus. ----OEJ 00:17, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- I've already been doing this for quite some time. That said, I approve. -- 00:20, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Quote policy: simplified
I don't think thats specific enough to be honest. Kinda like the whole construction tag thing, our "quality" is another's crap Steve Ballmer quote. ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 12:48, 08 June 2007
- Precisely. Which is why vague rules don't work. ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 12:51, 08 June 2007
- ...and also why tightly bound rules also don't. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 01:23, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- The rules listed above don't fall under "tightly bound" imo. Just a better way of saying what Insineratehymn said so that noobs have something tangible to try and understand. ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 01:38, 08 June 2007
- Yeah, I was about to swap that comment for the one below, but got edit conflicted. Then someone jingled there keys and I got all distracted. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 01:43, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- The rules listed above don't fall under "tightly bound" imo. Just a better way of saying what Insineratehymn said so that noobs have something tangible to try and understand. ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 01:38, 08 June 2007
- ...and also why tightly bound rules also don't. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 01:23, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- Precisely. Which is why vague rules don't work. ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 12:51, 08 June 2007
Here's my policy: 1 good quote is enough. If you have 2 which are super-duper, amazing, wonderful, can't be beat quotes, well, then you can have both of them. Anything else is a banning offense. My thanks to Insineratehymn and everyone else who engages in ruthles quoticide. If you can double up and do templaticide as well, you'll make it onto my good list. At the moment, that's like one person, so it's a pretty prestigious position. 06/8 01:27
- I just literally committed genocide on a single template. You will find no more of it in an actual article anymore. Even better, it was Template:Chuck Norris. -- 02:41, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
There's always the <choose><option> thing, if there are a bunch of solid quotes. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 01:28, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- Thats a very good idea MO! ~ Dame Ceridwyn ~ talk DUN VoNSE arc2.0 01:38, 08 June 2007
- For lame-ass panzys. Real men delete the bad quotes. 06/8 01:40
- Oh Famine, you sweet talker you. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 01:42, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- Real men delete the bad quotes. The BAD ones. Not the good ones, but the BAD ones. And yes, about 95% of spammed quotes are BAD quotes. --Crazyswordsman...With SAVINGS!!!! (T/C) 02:43, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- Oh Famine, you sweet talker you. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 01:42, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- For lame-ass panzys. Real men delete the bad quotes. 06/8 01:40
How REAL Men Deal With Quotes
You want to know how to really deal with crap quotes? Go to What links here for Template:Q and work from the top down (or bottom up, if that's your thing, or possibly even middle out). If I don't like what I see, *poof* there goes another crappy quote. I've done this more times than I can count, and nobody has yet had a problem with it. No bureaucratic nonsense. I got the idea from Famine, i.e. the "take out the trash and let someone else go digging through the dumpster if something they liked got thrown out" approach; I hope he doesn't mind. Also, I propose more liberal use of this here award template to encourage anti-crap quote behavior. --The Acceptable Cainad (Fnord) 07:34, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
How REAL women deal with quotes
If it's funny, keep it, if it sucks, delete it, and stop worrying about numbers and percentages and getting a macho image and suchlike. PS, I think real men could probably get away with using this approach too. --Whhhy?Whut?How? *Back from the dead* 09:00, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, if there is one thing that we male wiki nerds worry about, it's our macho image. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 13:05, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- I want to be a woman. From now on, I want you all to call me "Loretta" Loretta.
- See, I'd probably have called you Dilly, but whatever... --Whhhy?Whut?How? *Back from the dead* 14:22, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- I'm thinking Cher. But then, I've seen his stage show. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 14:30, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- See, I'd probably have called you Dilly, but whatever... --Whhhy?Whut?How? *Back from the dead* 14:22, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- I want to be a woman. From now on, I want you all to call me "Loretta" Loretta.
- You know, I could swear that the real man's approach looked exactly the same... Maybe we should worry about what all the fake men and women are doing. --The Acceptable Cainad (Fnord) 18:50, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
How REAL 'bots deal with quotes
Simple search and replace. When a 'bot removes top-quotes or specific templates, they're all gone. None of this 95% nonsense. Kill 'em all, resistance is useless, you will be assimilated.
“Asimov's Laws of robotics? I don't care about them; I'm going to kill Steve Ballmer and his templates too.”
How REAL grues deal with quotes
“*gulp* All gone. I feel like I am the raccoon who just ate the entire dustbin. At least that's the end of that. :)”
How Oscar Wilde, Kayne West, Mr T, Mark Twain and Captain Obvious deal with quotes
“A quote by me is a profound notion not to be taken lightly”
“Uncyclopedians do not care about quotes by me”
“Foo!, Break your legs if you take down my JibbaJabba”
“I just thought of a very clever and seemingly insightful quote.”
“The above quotes by Oscar Wilde, Kayne West, Mr. T and Mark Twain are quotes. This is the last quote by me, Captain Obvious”
“Captain Obvious needs to turn himself in at the station for crimes against Capitalisation”
“I pity the fool who edits Ceridwyn's comments”
“Awww "Mr. T" you're so sweet!”
“In Soviet Russia, quotes delete you!!”