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Extract taken from the drama fiest:

Should Socky Be Deopped?

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• For. Ok I have changed my opinion on this after seeing the 26 or so diffs on the other forum, this BUTT POOP!!!! nonsense needs to stop, admins are supposed to be under the same rules as everyone else (and are just given the additional power and trust to enforce them) and last of all if you have an issue with someone instead of making vague and often downright dickish statements behind they're back, talk to them. Drama fiend, needs to learn adminship does not make you above everyone else. Yes he is mostly a nice guy, but this is just plain stupid. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) 05:36, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

I retract all statements made because it seems you can't voice your opinions around here without some troll stirring up more drama. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) 10:53, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

• You really are desperate for adminship aren't you Frosty. mAttlobster. (hello) 10:43, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

  No, no I am not. How could you be more wrong? I am voicing my opinions which is actually what the whole point of forums is all about. Or is now a place to stir up more drama as this discussion will undoubtedly do. So as a result I retract out of this forum entirely, and you should thank god I'm not leaving the site fullstop as your stupid accusation just about nearly did. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) 10:53, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

So what does all this mean?

Well it means in order to prove that I am not voicing this for the sole purpose of increasing my chances of gaining adminship, to step away from the drama fiest and to generally find something better to do with my time, I am leaving Uncyclopedia, forever? Maybe I don't know.

Why am I leaving?

Too much drama, let me just list our problems:

• Drama
• BUTT POOP!!!!
• Deopping admins
• Power struggles
• Lack of admins prepared to ban users that are established and doing dumb things
• Lack of common sense
• Drama

I feel like I've done quite a lot for you guys, I had a far bit of fun, but I hate to say it you guys are idiots. If you want me back feel free to E-mail me telling me the drama, stupid accusations and trolling have stopped. I may pop into IRC occasionally.

But until then.

Adios. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) 11:04, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Aw come on! I even (kinda) apologized on that forum! Jeez. --Scofield & 1337 11:20, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

It's not just the forum it is the drama in general, about stupid, stupid things. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) 11:21, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Furthermore, a wizard did it. |Si Plebius Dato' Joe ang Kemador CUN|IC Kill | 11:24, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry Frosty, didn't meant to upset you. mAttlobster. (hello) 11:30, September 3, 2011 (UTC) Just seen, what you've done. Nasty. mAttlobster. (hello) 12:31, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

What did Frosty do, exactly? --Scofield & 1337 12:46, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Matt lobster is probably referring to the crossing out of "has never pissed anyone off enough to make them leave the wiki" in that other forum. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 12:50, 3 September 2011

I totally agree. All this drama is pointless and the way some people are acting is worth leaving over. Regardless, however, I'd still like you to stay, because you're a good contributer to the site and because I sincerely hope we'll have less pointless drama in the future (because it really is just that, pointless). —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 12:35, 3 September 2011

If the drama is pointless (which it largely is) and people are simply acting out, doesn't that really make more of a case for *not* being a good reason to leave? in fact, I'd say it's a pretty shite reason to leave - pointless drama tends to resolve itself over time; as distasteful as it is, the real answer is to ignore it and carry on about your business on the website and let the whiners squabble amongst themselves -- Prof. Olipro KUN (W)Anchor Op Bur. (Harass) 16:08, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

The latter part of my message is an argument for staying, the first part is an acknowledgement of the unpleasantness of the situation and how an expectation of said unpleasantness persisting into the future would be an understandable reason for wanting to leave. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 16:22, 3 September 2011

Hey, why isn't "Assholes ranting about "rascist" articles" up there?^

But, alas, I agree with Socky. This is all bullshit that nobody should be complaining about, since we've been dealing with it since the Uncyc existed. It's part of our daily lives. Get over it. ^{→ (Der_Führerbunker--Wehrmacht Factories)} 13:04, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Call out the whaaaaambulance on this. I mean seriously. Try spending a crapload of time on an article only to have someone spend a minute speed reading through it and voting  Against. on VFH. Those are the things that really make you want to quit, not petty squabbles (see: auto accident) and drama. This little "I'm leaving Uncyclopedia" ploy is.....DRAMA - Items 1 and 7 on your list. Frankly, I've been working for volunteer organizations since the early 90's and I get SO SICK of seeing this same little self centered LOOK AT ME!!!! game. Drama on this site is totally avoidable, just don't read it - turn the page and go back to work. Don't like BUTT POOP!!!! articles? Turn them into GOLDEN POOP!!!! with a rewrite!!

Rant off from a very grumpy Dr Strange whose 3 day weekend only just started about 15 minutes ago.--    15:35, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

If you wanted to show the hypocrisy of his leaving ploy, all you would've had to do was compare the vacation note on his userpage that says he'll return "When everybody grows up" with the fact he accuses me of pissing him off enough to leave the site, apparently because I am the main scapegoat in this whole shitfest of a dramathon. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 16:12, 3 September 2011

Scapegoat? -- Prof. Olipro KUN (W)Anchor Op Bur. (Harass) 16:14, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

It's like everything bad that's happened in the past months is blamed on me. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 16:16, 3 September 2011

It just feels that way, Socky. You're getting quite a drubbing these last few days and I hope you'll reflect on what's been said and be a little less stubborn (like me) about some things. Feeling like a scapegoat can alter your behavior and become a self-fulfilling prophecy. That's not to say you didn't have a valid point about such and such issues but 90% of the "war" is picking your battles wisely and communicating effectively. I've been a chronic violator of the same things in the past (not just here but everywhere) and I've learned some tough lessons. Keep that chin up, the Dr loves you.--    16:25, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

I think that it's disingenuous to try and claim that the grievances are being pinned on you as part of a hidden agenda to get rid of you; in order to be a scapegoat there would need to be that situation and I honestly don't think that TKF, Lyrithya, ZB etc have *any* hidden agenda, they're just genuine grievances. If you're really going to go down the route of believing that you're the victim of a conspiracy rather than taking the issues on-board and offering to make amends, then the vote to De-op you is only going to go one way. -- Prof. Olipro KUN (W)Anchor Op Bur. (Harass) 16:27, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

I never said there was an actual conspiracy against me, I just meant that his whole dramafest was making me feel like I'm the default scapegoat for when things don't go the way people want them to go. It's not that I'm not willing to take the issues on board, it's just that most of them seem gravely put out of proportion. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 16:30, 3 September 2011

Then, make your case and (try to) put them in proportion. bandying about accusations of being made a scapegoat will not help the situation -- Prof. Olipro KUN (W)Anchor Op Bur. (Harass) 16:33, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

All I meant to say was that it's not because this drama is about me, that Frosty should blame his intention of leaving the site on me. I wasn't trying to bandy about being made a scapegoat or whatever. That's just how it feels to me. And I've been trying to put things in proportion through my reactions to the accusations on that other forum. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 16:38, 3 September 2011

That's really only a single issue and frankly an external one, if a user wants to kick up the shit by playing the "I'm Leaving Uncyclopedia" card then disregard it, it's fast become a cliché so simply forget about that and focus on the actual grievances. On which note, I'm off to create UN:FOAD -- Prof. Olipro KUN (W)Anchor Op Bur. (Harass) 16:43, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

I was just trying to leave a small comment on the issue and then be on my way, but apparently you needed to start a long discussion on the use of the word "scapegoat". And is that short for "Fuck Off And Die" perchance? —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 16:46, 3 September 2011

Right, right, it was just an innocuous comment and I just *had* to come in and question it, and burden you with actually giving a response. To be honest with you, this is exactly the sort of thing people are taking issue with; you'll express an opinion then complain when asked to rationalise or defend it. Son, I AM DISAPPOINT. -- Prof. Olipro KUN (W)Anchor Op Bur. (Harass) 16:54, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I don't mind discussing things. It's just that if the discussion eventually turns out not to have had much of a point to it, I'm kind of disappointed at the end. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 17:00, 3 September 2011

You might want to keep in mind that this whole "victimization" thing is going both ways. If you think you've ended up as a scapegoat, TKF thinks you've been taking liberties with your admin position and have tried to incite more drama to get that BUTT POOP template back. I think this is a case where assuming bad faith against fellow users and throwing allegations back and forth has totally blown a simple debate out of proportion. You two really need to calm down, and realize that you're actually on the same page here, please! --Scofield & 1337 16:48, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

I'm just saying how I feel about all this. It doesn't feel like I've been acting that badly to other admins or breaking the rules. And yet there's this whole dramafest going on. You can't expect me to feel nice about all that. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 17:04, 3 September 2011

DAMMIT WHERE THE HELL IS MY CAKE?!! Oh, little...SOCKAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^{→ (Der_Führerbunker--Wehrmacht Factories)} 17:20, September 3, 2011 (UTC) Where the fuck am I, too? Damnit, Socky!!!!!!

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I have decided to stay simply because I have no life and um yeah a lot of people seem to dislike me leaving for some reason... ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) 21:15, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

You're the one in the group who makes us look thinner. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 22:36, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Until recently, that was Modus' job. -RAHB 22:39, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Damn you, home bread maker! /me shakes chubby fist at appliance Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 23:20, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for not leaving

Don't be an attention whore like I used to be. Besides, the wiki needs you, man. -- PLEB SIR Lollipop (TALK) - updated on 4 September 2011, at 05:52

Can you provide a few links to explain how much whoring you used to do? Maybe just look at my talkpage archives.....^{→ (Der_Führerbunker--Wehrmacht Factories)} 17:53, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

So you are not retarded after all Frosty

Leaving this place because of drama is maybe slightly more retarded than trying to de-op someone over petty little squables. No...it's slightly less retarded.

It's good that you didn't leave.

On another note: Oh what helarious pumpkin heads you are! It is really funny that so many people are getting cat like over something like but poop and various things related to but poop and a few things that have little to do with but poop. Show but poop to a friend who doesn't read this site ... and I am sure they will laugh or walk away in revoltion. Well then ... mission accomplished.

All of the admins who are fighting for or against de-opping are all guilty of either being bitchy, being a dick, banning people for petty reasons, starting drama, drawing out drama at some point in the last year ... but ... oh look at that ... uncyclopedia is alive again after a long summer drawl. Really good articles are being written again ... there are a few nOObs joining. A long list of pee reviews to be done. And the summer extravaganza actually ended!

Let users vote on that page...and I'm sure the majority would vote to stop this silliness and write some articles :) --ShabiDOO 11:54, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

My eight word article

Has caused at least four Uncyclopedians to either resign in protest or threaten to do so; has spawned nearly a dozen forum topics; has led to severe schisms within Uncyclopedia's management; has inspired one of the first-ever threats to unilaterally de-op an elected admin; has caused rule changes on VFD; and has spawned drama spanning more than a year.

I would feel like an evil genius if the eight words in question weren't so fucking stupid. pillow talk 18:50, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

I disagree. There's nothing wrong with the words "I", "eat", "apples" or "with". —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 18:55, 6 September 2011

Mike Tyson!!! Aleister 18:57 7-9-'11

You might be interested to learn that "apples" is considered the gayest noun, and "eat" is considered the most retarted verb. pillow talk 18:59, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

But poop is miraculous! --ShabiDOO 21:47, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Of those folks resigning in protest, how many of them would be describable as divas? 1234 ~ 22:25, 6 September 2011

Don't be hating on the divas, now. They're a vital part of our community. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 23:22, 6 September 2011

I'm pretty sure they are our community, actually. I just wasn't going to say it. Except then I did. So... uh. 1234 ~ 03:15, 7 September 2011

Is it possible to resign in protest at resigning in protest? mAttlobster. (hello) 15:00, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

It seems rather silly, but not completely impossible. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 15:17, 7 September 2011

Thats it! I am resigning to protest all of these protest resignations! --ShabiDOO 16:04, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

The irony is killing me. *dies* —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 18:02, 7 September 2011

Get your wife to do it. mAttlobster. (hello) 18:08, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Speaking for others again, eh Matt? Your the first one to say YOU'RE HUSBAND will do it. ^{→ (Der_Führerbunker--Wehrmacht Factories)} 22:48, September 7, 2011 (UTC) *gets banned for 5 mins*

As I said I am resigning, there are still some things to do just before that. So this will be the 87,903 last post I make before the resignation is official. In the mean time, it should still be very clear that I am very much against whatever reason it is that I am resigning. Let no one think differently! --ShabiDOO 22:51, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Geez do you want a resignation financial bonus with that? Stop your pointless whining, we all know you can't retire just yet, your pension plan will suffer some drastic penalties and you have 2 cats to support! Now go and I want that article on my desk tomorrow at noon. Oh, and go clean the bathroom stalls while you're at it! Mattsnow 12:04, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Mattsnow...your passive agressiveness only makes me want to resign sooner. Thats it...now its over in 97,102 edits! --ShabiDOO 13:46, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

--Wait. didn't you just lengthen your stay here at the UnHotel? Aww, shit. And I already set your office bathroom stall on fire....^{→ (Der_Führerbunker--Wehrmacht Factories)} 02:07, September 9, 2011 (UTC)