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...WTF should we do with it? IFYMB! Talk to me baby! 23:24, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
- I dunno. Does anybody want to read it anymore? If not, I propose we leave its festering corpse rotting right where it is. If we try to drag it away and bury it, we'll just end up smearing a line of decayed-corpse-slime and curdled blood across the floor. Hate it when that happens. Better just let the flies and hyenas take care of it.
- On the other hand... if people still want to read it? I guess I could write an issue a month. Probably not too hard. (twss.) ~ BB ~ (T)
~ Sat, Nov 30 '13 0:41 (UTC)
- It seems like something we should have going. Speaking of which, I've been meaning to start a forum about a bunch of old projects that are dead or half-dead that we might want to consider starting up again. – Llwy-ar-lawr (talk • contribs • logs) 00:44, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
- UnSignpost was useful for updating writers on any behind the scenes stuff, arguments, drama, etc. But I don't think it necessarily served any purpose. As for the debate below, I think the Wikia page will always attract new users because it comes up on Google, and with a couple of active users suddenly the site seems a lot less sleepy. Here, meanwhile, we got the social networks in the divorce, and so the best way for us to attract new writers is to push for people to join up through them. Leverage (talk) 20:13, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- But the social media hasn't been used in a long long time, so whoever had control over it should hand it over to someone more reliable... -- IFYMB! Talk to me baby! 21:46, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- Hotadmin4u69 runs the social media. Stuff does get posted, but if people want to help I'm sure all you have to do is talk to Hotadmin. -- The Zombiebaron 23:22, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- But the social media hasn't been used in a long long time, so whoever had control over it should hand it over to someone more reliable... -- IFYMB! Talk to me baby! 21:46, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- UnSignpost was useful for updating writers on any behind the scenes stuff, arguments, drama, etc. But I don't think it necessarily served any purpose. As for the debate below, I think the Wikia page will always attract new users because it comes up on Google, and with a couple of active users suddenly the site seems a lot less sleepy. Here, meanwhile, we got the social networks in the divorce, and so the best way for us to attract new writers is to push for people to join up through them. Leverage (talk) 20:13, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- It seems like something we should have going. Speaking of which, I've been meaning to start a forum about a bunch of old projects that are dead or half-dead that we might want to consider starting up again. – Llwy-ar-lawr (talk • contribs • logs) 00:44, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
Thingy thing
We seem to be axing everything as we go. Half the monthly awards, top 3 of the month, UnSignpost, writing competitions.... Then again we don't exactly have people running about volunteering to run these things anymore. So I propose we compile a list of every single dead thing that somebody misses in a forum somewhere. We discuss for a bit who misses it, why they miss it and who would be bothered perhaps trying to run it again. I miss having site activity. Let's do this yeah? ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) 
01:32, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
- Great idea. Happens to be mine too - I put just that sort of list together the other day. Here you go:
| Name of project | Description | Date last active | Possible reason for lack of activity | Link to project or forum page, or last archive if not applicable | Comment |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Pee Review | Review other peoples' humor while telling them they suck humongous nuts and giving them wedgies. Also, an important source of advice for improving your article. | ??? | Lack of anyone who cares | UN:PEE | Somebody should totally deal with all the backed-up reviews |
| FFS | Nominate users for joke bans and vote on such nominations | 31 July 2013 | Lack of users | Uncyclopedia:FFS | Nobody likes being banned |
| Adopt A Noob | Organised group of users willing to adopt newcomers | 6 July 2013 | Lack of users | Uncyclopedia:Adopt-A-Noob | I'm sure Frosty's willing to do this. Frosty, you should get on this. Yeah. |
| Count to a million | Count to a million, loosely taking turns | 29 July 2013 | Frosty decided that it was taking too much time and effort away from article writing and unilaterally locked and archived it; inactive ever since | Forum:Count to a million/27 | Bring it back, Frosty. |
| Last person to edit wins | what it says on the tin I guess | 6 March 2013 | Lack of users | Forum:Last person to edit wins | Pointless Waste of Time™ |
| Uncyclopedia Survivor | Something like FFS, but more like a game and held in a forum, and follows a somewhat complicated set of rules | 7 July 2010 | Lack of users | Forum:UNCYCLOPEDIA SURVIVOR! Season 4 World Cup Edition | Survivor is so 2008 |
| Unsoc | Based on the Ingsoc Party from 1984 | 28 March 2010 (requests to join were made after that date but not fulfilled) | Lack of users; several key members are inactive, including the ranks manager and the user whose userspace it is hosted in | User:Jocke Pirat/Unsoc | Jock Pirat's dead, Jim |
| Welcoming Committee | Organised group for welcoming new users | ? | Lack of users | Uncyclopedia:Welcoming Committee | We don't have any new users. Spoonie: if you see a new user who isn't a spam-bot, welcome them. |
| Folding@home | Download software that allows your excess CPU power to be used by Stanford University's Folding@home research project | 29 May 2013 | Lack of users | Uncyclopedia:Folding@home | Somebody should totes fix this. |
| Proofreading Service | Organised group of users who proofread articles; their services could historically be requested in specific cases | 3 September 2013; rather off and on before that, 1 or 2 semi-active members | Lack of users | Uncyclopedia:Proofreading Service | I nominate Spoonie |
| UnSignpost | Based on Wikipedia Signpost; newspaper reporting Uncyclopedia events | 1 August 2013 | Lack of users | Uncyclopedia:UnSignpost (last edition 1 August 2013) | Frosty should totes do this |
| Rate Your Admins | Rate an admin of your choice from 1 to 10 on various criteria | 3 July 2011 | Lack of users/interest | Uncyclopedia:RYA | Tried to think of something intelligent to say here, but failed. |
| VFS (sandwiches) | Nominate sandwiches for adminship, or something | 8 July 2013 | I don't know | Uncyclopedia:VFS | It's obvious why the sysop part isn't getting a lot of use, but the sandwiches don't seem to be either. Don't know if this is a cause for concern. |
- See what you think. I'm willing to at least try to participate in most of these if needed. – Llwy-ar-lawr (talk • contribs • logs) 03:16, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
- The Folding@home page also is broken, compared to the (ahem) old site. I'm sure that's the only reason it's not active. ~ BB ~ (T) ~ Sat, Nov 30 '13 5:25 (UTC)
- I think people should write articles, make images, and vote on the voting page instead of worrying about most of the things you list here. Adopt a Noob and Proofreading are only needed if we have new users and new articles. Pretty much everything else you list is some old joke that got tired and people stopped paying attention to. If people want to participate in user groups or forum games, they should start newer better ones. Pee Review should be added to the list. -- The Zombiebaron 07:14, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
- You're probably right about that. There's probably a lot of stuff that didn't occur to me at the time that should be added, yes, including pee review. The rationale usually provided for things like Count to a million and FFS is that it gives people with writer's block a place to continue to be active without having to write anything, or some such. I know Count to a million, for one, was quite alive before it was essentially killed by Frosty - not that I disagree with his reasoning, but it kind of contradicts the idea that it, too, was 'some old joke that everyone got tired of'. – Llwy-ar-lawr (talk • contribs • logs) 15:27, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
- I try and contribute to proofreading and reviewing much as I can. Specially Pee Review. But yes, it boils down to me and maybe a couple more users. Tumb13weed
10:32, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah this site is a wiki and not a forum. Half the battle with getting people to write articles is chronic verbal masturbation in BHOP. Forums that actually matter to running the site are the only ones we need IMO. Honestly people that edited CTAM rarely edited anything outside the forum namespace (ie >50% of total edits were to forums). We don't need users like that, that waste time and pretend they have a clue on running the site. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!)
00:22, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
- Should we have an official thingy saying uncyclopedia is not a forum, kind of how wikipedia is not a forum? There's some other related stuff in here, as well as something somewhere or maybe nowhere or everywhere that everything you do is supposed to contribute to building the encyclopedia. Maybe we should have a rule like that. You're not here to build an encyclopedia, you get blocked. You are right that at least some people who edited ctam didn't edit anywhere else for the most part, like Kirby (yes I know, the i has no dot, but I hate special characters so too bad) and TheHappySpaceman, and maybe you are right that we don't need people like that. They're certainly not being part of the writing community. But I did hear somewhere when all this about the locking the forum was going on that some of these are people who still want a way to participate but don't want to write or don't feel capable. I remember you told THS to try to write something and he refused saying most of what he had written had been huffed. I don't think he came back after you locked the forum. Matthlock (IIRC) even reported you to ban patrol - as if blocking you would have any serious effect; self-unblocking is the norm here, we have no rule against it, unlike wikipedia. Simsilikesims said at one point (about spike ending joke bans, but it seems to apply to this too) that if you close down everything that is not writing and force everyone to focus on that that everyone will burn out. (see here.) I don't know which opinion is correct - so far they seem equally valid, so I'm not sure what to say, and what I just said is probably really incoherent. – Llwy-ar-lawr (talk • contribs • logs) 00:39, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
- We don't need Wikipedia style policy pages about how we're not a forum, it says "the content-free encyclopedia" right in our logo. The heart and soul of this site will always be are our articles. If you want to play games with other Uncyclopedians, come on IRC. -- The Zombiebaron 03:19, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
- Good point. – Llwy-ar-lawr (talk • contribs • logs) 16:02, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
- We don't need Wikipedia style policy pages about how we're not a forum, it says "the content-free encyclopedia" right in our logo. The heart and soul of this site will always be are our articles. If you want to play games with other Uncyclopedians, come on IRC. -- The Zombiebaron 03:19, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
- Should we have an official thingy saying uncyclopedia is not a forum, kind of how wikipedia is not a forum? There's some other related stuff in here, as well as something somewhere or maybe nowhere or everywhere that everything you do is supposed to contribute to building the encyclopedia. Maybe we should have a rule like that. You're not here to build an encyclopedia, you get blocked. You are right that at least some people who edited ctam didn't edit anywhere else for the most part, like Kirby (yes I know, the i has no dot, but I hate special characters so too bad) and TheHappySpaceman, and maybe you are right that we don't need people like that. They're certainly not being part of the writing community. But I did hear somewhere when all this about the locking the forum was going on that some of these are people who still want a way to participate but don't want to write or don't feel capable. I remember you told THS to try to write something and he refused saying most of what he had written had been huffed. I don't think he came back after you locked the forum. Matthlock (IIRC) even reported you to ban patrol - as if blocking you would have any serious effect; self-unblocking is the norm here, we have no rule against it, unlike wikipedia. Simsilikesims said at one point (about spike ending joke bans, but it seems to apply to this too) that if you close down everything that is not writing and force everyone to focus on that that everyone will burn out. (see here.) I don't know which opinion is correct - so far they seem equally valid, so I'm not sure what to say, and what I just said is probably really incoherent. – Llwy-ar-lawr (talk • contribs • logs) 00:39, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah this site is a wiki and not a forum. Half the battle with getting people to write articles is chronic verbal masturbation in BHOP. Forums that actually matter to running the site are the only ones we need IMO. Honestly people that edited CTAM rarely edited anything outside the forum namespace (ie >50% of total edits were to forums). We don't need users like that, that waste time and pretend they have a clue on running the site. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!)
- I try and contribute to proofreading and reviewing much as I can. Specially Pee Review. But yes, it boils down to me and maybe a couple more users. Tumb13weed
- You're probably right about that. There's probably a lot of stuff that didn't occur to me at the time that should be added, yes, including pee review. The rationale usually provided for things like Count to a million and FFS is that it gives people with writer's block a place to continue to be active without having to write anything, or some such. I know Count to a million, for one, was quite alive before it was essentially killed by Frosty - not that I disagree with his reasoning, but it kind of contradicts the idea that it, too, was 'some old joke that everyone got tired of'. – Llwy-ar-lawr (talk • contribs • logs) 15:27, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
- The Folding@home page also is broken, compared to the (ahem) old site. I'm sure that's the only reason it's not active. ~ BB ~ (T)
Moribund
Damn, we are really lacking users. We're going in the way of Citizendium and no one noticed it.
The only thing that is still active is a Brazilian Portuguese version of Uncyclopedia and that is going well. If anyone wants me I am planning to ship myself to Cracked.com by next year and advertise Uncyclopedia heavily. 
|Si Plebius Dato' Joe ang Kemador CUN|IC Kill 
| 11:45, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
- Whichever user who controls the social media aspect of the site should really utilise it more. IFYMB! Talk to me baby! 12:31, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
- I blame Electrified mocha chinchilla. ~ BB ~ (T) ~ Sat, Nov 30 '13 13:09 (UTC)
- I blame a diet high in saturated fat and low in protein. We need more bananas! Nominally Humane! 01:48 30 Nov
- It seems interesting to me that both Citizendium's activity and ours spiked in 2007 and steadily declined after that: see wikipedia:File:Citizendium Editing users.png for their activity, and I forget where the statistics for us are but I know we had a significant spike in activity then. Don't know what we can do with this info though. – Llwy-ar-lawr (talk • contribs • logs) 15:16, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
- The Wikia version of this site seems to go strong however. Anyone want to sell the Uncyclopedia.co site to Cracked.com?
|Si Plebius Dato' Joe ang Kemador CUN|IC Kill 
| 00:30, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's going strong. Romartus and SPIKE reverting 24 hours of straight vandalism... that is what I call a thriving website. ~ BB ~ (T) ~ Mon, Dec 2 '13 4:55 (UTC)
- The USP there has been completely revamped, mainly thanks to ScottPat and Anton, with a bit of interference from myself. The model created there may work well here. (Not that I have any bias, of course.) Nominally Humane! 07:27 02 Dec
- Yeah, it's going strong. Romartus and SPIKE reverting 24 hours of straight vandalism... that is what I call a thriving website. ~ BB ~ (T)
- We just need to insert an infinite number of links into various places so this uncyc shows up at the top of Google results. Some pages from uncyclowikia show up first, then the wikipedia page, then us. [1] No fair. I've got a repository for such links, and it's already got Logimalpedie into Google results [2] but hasn't done anything much for us yet. – Llwy-ar-lawr (talk • contribs • logs) 01:19, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
- How does it work? |Si Plebius Dato' Joe ang Kemador CUN|IC Kill | 04:08, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, it should be wikia first, then uncyclopedia.co, then wikipedia. No, just kidding. What concerns the USP, it was basically Pup who did all the formatting. Anton (talk) 18:31, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
- Apologies for the late reply - a pile of random stuff got out of control and I had to deal with it, and I haven't actually dealt with most of it yet but I have some time right now...so, anyway, how the link repository works is I add interwiki prefixes to the interwiki table [3] and insert interwiki links into a bunch of pages, and the idea is that google follows the links and increases the rankings of the linked sites.
- It should be uncyclopedia.co first, then wikipedia, then wikia, if you ask me. Now if you ask me about something you may well get a lot of unsourced nonsense that doesn't make sense, or maybe some banana puree squirrels dancing on the high tide, so I have no idea if...wait, what? – Llwy-ar-lawr (talk • contribs • logs) 23:49, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- Fork to out rank Spoon and Egg. That's a lot of squirreling Llwy. --
RomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 08:13, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not sure where the egg came from. Is the egg wikipedia? – Llwy-ar-lawr (talk • contribs • logs) 03:30, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
- It came from the chicken. Which came from the egg. Nominally Humane! 03:33 12 Dec
- This site is doing very well, and the doom and gloomers can go suck egg Wikipedia. The amount of edits going on now is just what it is, no big deal. At some point both sites need publicity, and that will be the camel that carries the water, but everyone is doing fine now. This site maybe has to again do something huge to differentiate itself from wikia, but I don't know what it is. Maybe an Eric Andre Award, with some teaming up with the Eric Andre Show, the best satire on tv imnho. Aleister 3:44 12-12-13
- It came from the chicken. Which came from the egg. Nominally Humane! 03:33 12 Dec
- I'm not sure where the egg came from. Is the egg wikipedia? – Llwy-ar-lawr (talk • contribs • logs) 03:30, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
- Fork to out rank Spoon and Egg. That's a lot of squirreling Llwy. --
- How does it work?
- The Wikia version of this site seems to go strong however. Anyone want to sell the Uncyclopedia.co site to Cracked.com?
- It seems interesting to me that both Citizendium's activity and ours spiked in 2007 and steadily declined after that: see wikipedia:File:Citizendium Editing users.png for their activity, and I forget where the statistics for us are but I know we had a significant spike in activity then. Don't know what we can do with this info though. – Llwy-ar-lawr (talk • contribs • logs) 15:16, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
- I blame a diet high in saturated fat and low in protein. We need more bananas! Nominally Humane! 01:48 30 Nov
- I blame Electrified mocha chinchilla. ~ BB ~ (T)
Back to the topic at hand…
Are we planning to do anything with the USP? Nominally Humane! 07:55 12 Dec
- How do we attract more users? Even Rationalwiki has more views than us! Also, just make a final edition of USP and leave it at that. |Si Plebius Dato' Joe ang Kemador CUN|IC Kill | 09:58, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
- imnho USP is just without an editor at the moment. That's all. When an editor takes it up, then the newsletter will come back. At the other site Chief Justice stopped editing it and ran off to join the circus or something, and eventually a couple of people took it up. Build it and they will cum. Aleister 10:18 12-12-13
- Agreed. UU used to cover it. He buggered off to have a daughter and I took it for a spin. He came back and took it back again. Buggered off to be fruitful again and chief took it. At the knife (as opposed to the fork) he buggered off and Anton and ScottPat took it. All it needs is someone willing to start putting out an issue or two. As soon as that happens editors seem to come forward to write shit. Build it and they will have a happy ending. Nominally Humane! 11:13 12 Dec
- On the off topic, pity parties aren't sexy. Whining about not having new users does not attract new users. Writing funny shit is how we have attracted users in the past, and will be as we go forward. So write more funny shit! Nominally Humane! 11:18 12 Dec
- Boom ^ ~ BB ~ (T) ~ Thu, Dec 12 '13 16:06 (UTC)
- Sure, writing funny articles is important, but we also need someone to read them. Hence social media sites. Another one I've run across is reddit, which we don't seem to be using much; there's a bit of stuff for uncyclopedia.co but a lot more for uncyclopedia.wikia.com. [4] [5] I think a few of us should submit links to pages on the fork from time to time. We'll have to be careful, though - if that's all we do, we could get banned for spamming. And by 'we' I don't mean me, because I don't have the time or energy to do anything more than submit links to uncyclopedia.co. Maybe in a few months, but not now. – Llwy-ar-lawr (talk • contribs • logs) 16:15, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
- I would be happy to have my bot deliver it again, but there is little chance I'll get the time to write USPs again any time soon.
21:18 12.12.13 - One time we got a huge spike in traffic after Pac-Man (walkthrough) got posted in r/gaming and got to the reddit front page. -- The Zombiebaron 06:37, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
- God, we are getting more bad taste shit these days. Like Puppy said, let's write more articles. But currently we are lacking in comedic ideas since the last time I won my first FA. And no, I am not going to do a retrospective of "What does the Fox Say?". |Si Plebius Dato' Joe ang Kemador CUN|IC Kill | 12:07, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
- God, we are getting more bad taste shit these days. Like Puppy said, let's write more articles. But currently we are lacking in comedic ideas since the last time I won my first FA. And no, I am not going to do a retrospective of "What does the Fox Say?".
- I would be happy to have my bot deliver it again, but there is little chance I'll get the time to write USPs again any time soon.
- Boom ^ ~ BB ~ (T)
- imnho USP is just without an editor at the moment. That's all. When an editor takes it up, then the newsletter will come back. At the other site Chief Justice stopped editing it and ran off to join the circus or something, and eventually a couple of people took it up. Build it and they will cum. Aleister 10:18 12-12-13
