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template explanation

For the benefit of noobies and other ignorant souls could you explain the purpose of the Template:Range and possibly give an example of when a person might use it. See: Template_talk:Range to Reply. Thanx --JAX-arrgh!!! Prevaricate at me 15:14, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

That is hardly a template that will be utilized by noobs. It is an advanced administration template. --Splaka 04:03, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Didn't you just recently write that I should ask the autors of templates I didn't understand for an explanation?

You did, and my answer is: You don't need to worry about it, or ever use it most likely.

At the risk of seeming irreverent I would like to ask your holiness a question: "Are noobs predestined to remain noobs forever?"

Yep. Or until they become administrators.

It would seem to me that the Wiki spirit is to encourage all to participate and to learn. (Or is the high priesthood restricted to the privleged few?) --JAX-arrgh!!! Prevaricate at me 15:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

You can't expect to learn all at once. --Splaka 04:48, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- o -

Before anything else, I want to congratulate you for an excellent consolodation of the {{top}} {{mid}} {{bottom}} and the inclusion of clear usage and instructions which is the mission I've been on.

I can accept your explanation and the fact that some templates are not ever likely to be used by a noob, but I continue to believe that unless you want to keep noobs ignorant, everyone would be better off if explanations were given. Ideally these would be when a template is created, but it better late than never.

This makes template creation for us several times more complicated than it needs to be.

I'm learning about wiki and some of the things I've done have come from an idea I've picked up which I might not never use, but which gave me the seed to invent something else. (I'm sure you recognize elements of your sig in the one I'm now using -- for example.)

If every time someone added a new feature they went to write comprehensive explanations about how to use it for even the dumbest users, they'd probably be reduced to an efficiency of about 10%. Comprehensive documentation is NOT feasable.

I don't know if you've noticed but both of us have spend considerable time bouncing this issue back an fourth, probably about ten times as much as would have been spent if you'd simply provided a brief explanation of the template and let it go.

Mostly because you don't seem to get the hint.

I'd suggest, as an issue for you to take up with your fellow administrators, that if there are templates and other tools that you don't want the general public to be aware of, that you might consider having a protected area where only certain authorized people can see them. Otherwise you're always open to having curious users (like me) poking around and experimenting where you might not want them to go.--JAX-arrgh!!! Prevaricate at me 15:44, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

I'd suggest you limit yourself to adapting to the community rather than trying to implement policy where it is not appreciated or wanted. What you suggest is not in the spirit of a wiki. --Splaka 01:36, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if you were to disclose that you were using this stint an admistrator as a training excercise to become a politician: You have steered the topic of this conversation so far from the original question that I almost forgot that you hadn't answered it. :)

So, in keeping with the spirit of Unencyclopedia, I'm thinking of creating some mis-information to fill the gap. My thinking is running along these lines: 

Usage
this template {{Range}} "is an advanced administration template" 
used to discover the name, street address, telephone number, checking
account balance, credit card numbers, PIN codes, and the state of
virginity of any user in which an administrator has an interest.  
Use of this template by anyone not authorized is subject to penalties
worse than death, including -- but not limited to:  wetting the user's
socks with cold water, spreading corn flakes in user's bed, a lifetime
ban from MSN Chat, and being force-fed a vinegar and ketchup milkshake.
Of course, this is just a draft and is subject to change, but it gives you and idea of my thinking.
Regarding your concern about complicating the creation of new templates, I'm working on a template that may help solve that by making the template self-documenting (to a certain point) {{TU}}. I certainly hope you're not going to huff this one on me even before I have a chance to see if I can make it work.--JAX-arrgh!!! Prevaricate at me 16:45, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
The scope of templates means self documentation is impractical and would be useful very rarely. And now you are starting to become trollish. My 'stint' as administrator, as you call it, has nothing to do with politics. I was not adminned by choice.
I answered your question: You don't need to know because you will most likely never use it. If there was a point at which you would use it (advanced ban patrolling, or god forbid, administration) you would have seen it used enough to understand it. However, the template itself is VERY simple to understand, just viewing the history and a few places it is used on would inform you. That you would rather complain at me for days for not explaining it to you tells me that you are in no positition to explain template usage to others. Now, please moderate your tone and your actions. --Splaka 20:36, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Image:Bouncywikilogo.gif

Just letting you know that I uploaded your bouncing WP logo to the commons at Commons:image:Bouncywikilogo.gif to use for my Wikimedia monobook.css-es --sColdWhat<Just|Say|It> 22:47, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh crap. It was just a one time visual joke. I really gotta redo that better sometime. Heh. --Splaka 02:45, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Ok, Moneyslut just helped me fix it up in huge sexy ways. You might want to re-upload. --Splaka 05:27, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
If this were my talk page, he'd be the slut... But no-one ever goes there anymore... :( --~ sin($) tan(€) 05:30, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
You rock. Now if only the image wasn't up for deletion... --sColdWhat<Just|Say|It> 08:58, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Minion #1043928 reporting for duty.

Captain Splaka, I offer my most sincere apologies for doing the stuff I should not have been doing. Although I did not realize I was doing anything wrong at the time, I humbly accept all responsibility for my actions. Consider me reformed. I will make sure what I do isn't illegal before doing it from now on. Thank you for correcting my errors and leading me to the path of righteousness. Sliferjam - You got something to say? - JAM! - I'm special. 17:16, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

comments or suggestions

I don't wish to be accused of trying to mount a conspiracy to take away your kingdom behind your back, but since I've published my lamentations and invited other's comment, I'm advising you too. If you have anything to add, your comments also will be accepted. Please see User:Jax-arrgj/001 and leave any thoughts you might have on User_talk:Jax-arrgj/001 --JAX-arrgh!!! Prevaricate at me 17:19, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

It isn't my kingdom, it is chronarion's. I just work here. And that page should be in your user space, why is it in User:Jax-arrgj's userspace? shouldn't it be at User:Jax-arrgh/001? --Splaka 04:06, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Oops ... it was a poty (typo) and has now been moved. Jax
Hey, you two should move into an apartment together and televise it. That would make one hilarious sitcom! • Spang • ☃ • talk • 04:13, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Were you thinking of a program like Friends? I kinda think it wouldn't work. We'd probably end up fighting over such things as the residual resale rights of the used toilet paper.

Un-Notable Persons interview: #2!

Carl got #1 by moving pages back and forth for three months (I think he may have done that just to get #1 on this list, actually). When you feel up to it, please answer these questions for inclusion on my Un-Notable Persons interview list, which I'll compile sometime... later. (I'm going slow, one at a time.)

  1. Who are you, and why should I care?
  2. Wait, you're Splarka? Didn't you ban Africa once?
  3. Everyone knows you're Hitler, so I just have to ask this: why attack Russia when you hadn't finished off Britain?
  4. There's a really nasty rumor going on questioning your sexuality: could you put that to rest here once and for all?
  5. In a battle between you, RC, and Chronarion, who REALLY runs this place?
  6. If you could undo one thing you've done in your time here, what would it be?
  7. Is there anything I missed that I REALLY should have asked?
  8. Finally, is there any way I won't get banned for doing this interview?
  • Um, this was posted by me, by the way. Thanks.--<<Bradmonogram.png>> 04:28, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
  1. I am User:Splaka, and you shouldn't. I am a Wikipedia and Wikia user on occasion. I was adminned against my will here by User:PantsMacKenzie. Anything I do is his fault.
  2. That was Los Angeles.
  3. That was Los Angeles and Connecticut.
  4. No. The rumors are too entertaining.
  5. If Chronarion wasn't such a lazy fucker, he would. In the absense of that, it is like that episode of Star Trek where Kirk gets split into good and evil halves. Guess which half RC is. Well, I am the other half. Actually there are quite a few older administrators who run things here. But not you, you're too n00b.
  6. This interview! Or maybe undo not choosing the right numbers for that $300 million dollar lottery jackpot.
  7. Yes, you should have asked me to calculate the last digit of pi, giving you a chance to escape while I overheated.
  8. You can unban yourself, adminslut. Wouldn't do much good to ban you for 24 years (though it might feel good).
--Splaka 04:43, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Cheeky Hoe!

saw your little modification :P... should I be concerned that you can edit user javascript... *starts murmuring things about XSS* --Olipro Icons-flag-gb.png Anchor CUN (Harass) 14:39, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Love you long time! <3 --Splaka 05:49, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Template:Image Whore

Hi. You recently huffed my Image Whore Template. Now, if it needed to be done, fine. But (and I've read the rules, most of them twice) could you please tell me why it needed to go? Thanks. Justacsnerd 16:37, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Templates exist primarily to reduce message and code repetitiveness (yes, even on a parody Wiki, most templates serve a purpose, except Template:Nothing). As your template seemed unlikely to be highly used, and also seemed to be exceedingly huge and ugly, and also it lost its right to exist as a template. I'll put it in your user space, but I don't advise using it in its current form (ick). Possibly shrinking it to managable a and pretty size would do it a world of good. --Splaka 05:27, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Alright. Thanks. Justacsnerd 19:22, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

My Recent Ban

Hello Spalka,

Now I know that we don't interact on a regular basis, so you may just treat as you would treat anyone who you see as a vandal, and that's not what I'm here about. What I'm here about is the actual fact that I was banned for a day, for something that I would deem to be very small. In fact, you banned me so that I would stop "greet[ing] users who've never made any edits". Now you were obviously refering to my mass greeting of users. I was intending to spred the Welcome Template, which contains many useful links that if read may decrease the amount of vandalizim and what not which goes on here. I completed a large group of welcomes at 10:30, 7 July 2006 (I still welcome'd a few people whoes red talk pages I found on recent changes after that) and then spent some time on IRC and monkeying around with an N64. Finnally I left the computer altogether and watched a movie (Good Fellas). You can plainly see that my final edit was at 17:14, 7 July 2006. Now the next morning when I first signed onto Uncyclopedia, I became aware that I had a new message, from one of the people who I had greeted the previous day. I was slightly peeved that the message was at the bottom of the page, and as I went to move it, I discoverd I had been banned. Now Splaka, I'm a rezonable man (who can't spell), you could have left me a message. I would have stopped. But instead I was given a one day ban. I didn't complain though, because unlike my other bans I probably deserved this one. What outrages me is the length. I say, if you were trying to get my attention, then doing so at 02:47, 8 July 2006 was useless. By that time I hadn't even made an edit for 9 hours. This, to me, spells out that you belive that my noble cause, or so I thought it, was a bannable offence, akin to vandalizim.
Now, after that long essay, I would like to know why, under the circumstances, I had to sit around for a day watching vandalizim sit around a fester for awhile before being reverted.

Thanks For The Ban,
--The Zombiebaron 23:29, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
The length of your ban was proportional to the amount of grief you caused me, with your other contributions and intentions factored in. Most cases of vandalism (whatever the intention) take 3-5 minutes to fix and get a few days to weeks worth of ban. It took several hours to fix yours, because (at first) I was checking EVERY SINGLE talk page you'd made to see if the user had made any contribs. After about 60 this got fucking annoying so I deleted all the alphabetical ones you'd made. I also conferred with the administrators in #uncyclopedia (Tompkins and MoneySign) who did not disagree with the ban. Cheating at this stupid Welcome game is, well, ban worthy (note all the bans between Tompkins and Hinoa, many of which are Welcome-related, but they can (sadly) unban themselves).
The intention was not to get your attention, the intention was to get you to never want to do this again. This little spree did little to contribute to Uncyclopedia (except momentarily increase your status on Mostlinked I suppose). We don't need 20k+ welcome messages on the talk page of every damn user, especially ones who've never edited (which I'd say applies 90% of the ones you greeted) or hadn't edited in a year. That was just pointless and spammy. So, don't do it, only greet NEW users. --Splaka 04:52, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
*sigh* duely noted, Sir. --The Zombiebaron 14:19, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Coming back to this half a month later, I'd like to point out that Tompkins and I have never banned each other over {{welcome}}. We have, however, banned each other over virtually every other reason. —Sir Major Hinoa [TALK] [KUN] 00:03, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Reblock

84.0.117.195 (Talk • Contribs (del) • Block (rem-lst-all) • Whois • City • Proxy? • WP Edits) you just unblocked. im pretty sure i know that one. that one is constantly banned from wikipedia and occasionally uncyclopedia when i leave my account on it. that is my old schools ip. i say that coz the ip never changes, its the main router, hasnt shut off since 2004. (i moved btw, thats why after the promises of unpocalypse by me, i disappeared. it was no act of god, was an act of me moving. by the way, did u miss me? didnt think so. ah well, i know you love me, or you arent alive. bye!!!! BAH. ONX 02:49, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

It was about to expire, and this was their first block. If they vandalize again they'll get another. I was testing MediaWiki:Unblocked by using a few almost-expired blocks. --Splaka 03:40, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Dear Sir Splaka

This might be surprising, but I actually want you to delete a page: Template:Dutch. For the simple reason Template:DutchUser is exactly the same. Don't ask me why, I made them both, I know what I'm doing, just huff. Thanks.

  • Made the same mistake as with DutchUser. Didn't use the "move" option and instead newly created the exact same article somwhere else, so now there are two versions op Stupid Music, of which this one needs to be deleted. Hey, you don't mind huffing some more, do you? It's forest fire week, after all.--PBz0r 10:48, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Look man, I am totally on huff vacation this week. Ask any of the zillion megadeletors next time. Rar. --Splaka 05:01, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Sig

Hi, Since you altered my sig the flag is completly incomprehensible, and I've noticed that it seems that everyone around except yours truly wonders around with huge flags tied to their sigs....How can I correct the issue so the flag can be enlarged without distrubing anyone's peace of mind? -- Brigadier Sir Mordillo Icons-flag-il.png GUN UotY WotM FP UotM AotM MI3 AnotM VFH +S 20:40, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, their flags are still less than 20px high. The problem with your image, is that while the flag is 29px high, the image is 64px high, with lots of wasted space. I cropped the image and reuploaded it. Now it can be this big in your sig: Israelicon.gif --Splaka 04:06, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Many thanks. Wouldn't want to be caugt by one of the ultra nationalists back home claiming I'm ashamed of the flag :) -- Brigadier Sir Mordillo Icons-flag-il.png GUN UotY WotM FP UotM AotM MI3 AnotM VFH +S 07:40, 20 July 2006 (UTC) (my god it's HUGE!)

HEY!

You huffed one of my articles that was a part of a different article! Note from God was a part of Bush's Brain. Didn't you notice?

I did delete it, and I'll do it again. It is too short to survive on its own. --Splaka 04:20, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


The Cheesist Church

Why did you huff the Cheesist CHurch?1028 23:51, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Short, crap, deleted already. --Splaka 06:18, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

NRV Removal Request

I wrote an article for Blizzard and it was put on the NRV list, I'd like to know why but I couldn't find the person that put it on so, If there is something wrong with it I'd really like to know, and if there isn't, it'd be good if it could be removed from NRV. oh, and please, please could you look at it for me, thnx.

Masan 10:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

It was added several days ago by Hinoa4 (diff). Most people who add NRV tags will remark it in the edit summary, which shows up in the history. As the article is significantly longer than when the NRV tag was added I've removed it. --Splaka 04:15, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Template:H2G2Researcher

Um ... I'm really sorry to bother you about this, but I'm having some problems reconciling some good formatting changes you've made with a revert I did ... which also improved some other stuff ... could you take a look at it please and re-do whatever it is you did? --Nerd42eMailTalkUnMetaWPediah2g2 19:20, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Oops, forgot to look. How's that? --Splaka 03:50, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Excellent. Thank you! :) --Nerd42eMailTalkUnMetaWPediah2g2 19:39, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

I woulda gotten to it, I swear...

Thanks for getting all those talk page redirects, Splaka - I was just about to list them on QVFD (really, I was!) when I discovered that you'd already gotten 'em. Thanks! I hope I didn't miss any double-redirects... I was fairly careful this time, but there were an awful lot of pages involved!  c • > • cunwapquc? 09:11, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Special pages status

  • Splaka,
I've just finished clearing out the Orphaned pages and I was curious if the pages will remain cached, and if so, would you know how frequently ? I only ask as it seems a bit more difficult, not only to keep up with constant new entries, but as what I've found to be a highly valuble anti-vandal system (essentially an instant update on blanked pages or recently "re orphaned" articles) which would be near useless having to wait several weeks at a time for the pages to be updated. Of course I can hopefully get by with checking out the New Pages, however I seem to be finding myself out of the loop as of late. :) MadMax 19:51, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Wikia is currently in miser mode. The special pages that are generated lists are expensive (when live, they refresh on each edit, yikes). For a while the servers have been having some difficulty, and this was traced to those special pages in particular. On any big Wiki (especially Wikimedia, where they've been in miser mode for over a year) it is feasably impossible to have them live, and we've just about reached the point on Wikia. However, the devs are working on a compromise (some kind of 'on demand' refresh). Right now the pages should refresh at least once a day. --Splaka 05:24, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Ah, I see. I was assuming it wuold have been anywhere from a few weeks to a month (which would have been a major headache). Once again, I really appreciate the help. :) MadMax 12:56, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Redirect for me

Could you redirect Template:Title-left to Template:Title for me? ~~FlareNUKE (Page Talk Contrib ☻) 22:59, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Redirecting highly used templates is not such a good idea (the job queue for one thing can't update categories in redirected templates). Why don't you try reducing the occurances instead, by switching to {{title}}. --Splaka 04:43, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikistalking

Why are you wikistakling me? Please stop, my pagemove on a template was done for a reason. Myrtone@Splaka.com.au 08:36, 11 August 2006 (UTC):-(

  1. I am not wikistalking you, I am doing one of my jobs as an administrator, which is to watch problem users.
  2. You are a problem user. Your edits to other people's templates have shown incivility and hostility, especially when your often broken and annoying changes are reverted.
  3. You are a problem user, even after two blocks you still don't seem to get that most of your contributions are unwarranted and unwanted.
  4. The template is not exclusively yours, to move or to censor.
  5. You are very close to being restricted (under punishment of infinite ban) from any template namespace edits or moves. Please shape up or ship out. --Splaka 05:40, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

A Good Hard CSSing

Hey Splarky. Do you think you could hook me up with a css job on User:Spintherism/Penmanship before the PLS deadline? If you just copy whatever you did to Nihilism, and link me to whatever the relevant css pages are, I can fill in the rest myself. Thanks. --Spin 23:44, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

How about Fullscreen instead? Yahoo! Babel:Ap Babel:APPL use it. To edit you have to go to the link semimanually: action=edit. --Splaka 04:09, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
OK, done it. If you need to edit it, copy MediaWiki:Skin/Fullscreen.css to MediaWiki:Skin/Penmanship.css and change the line appropriately in MediaWiki:Uncyclopedia.js. But you shouldn't need to edit it, I think? --Splaka 04:15, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

hi

hi – Preceding unsigned comment added by Sdtfcygvbhkkk (talk • contribs)

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