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Tweetie the Sophiabird

Here we go, I set up this little chat for two reasons: 1.)So we who are already familiar with the topics discussed on Un-Bestiary can invite new meat to discuss them here and emerge with a valid concensus on the steps that are to be taken to solve the task at hand. 2.) Uncyclopedian is unlikely to find it; I think he has Talk:Un-Bestiary on his watchlist. He's chillaxed though, so I think he can come. But only if he brings cake....

(I came, and this is on my watchlist. I brought cake, but just for DiZ and I. Uncyclopedian 21:21, 12 July 2006 (UTC))

Anyways, the un-issue at hand is: the Un-Bestiary, Uncyclopedia's new un-collection of Un-Creatures needs an un-logo. Ghelae brought it up, and I think it deserves consideration. (No, I brought it up, DiZ! Look back at the talk page! Uncyclopedian 21:26, 12 July 2006 (UTC)) UnBooks, UnMeta, UnNews all have their logos (plus the two debating potatoes in the corner,right there), and Wikipedia has one for their WikiSpecies thing... Problem is: we don't!! Now, Ghelae suggested (prepare yourself): a monochrome badger! We don't need some ground-dwelling land flounder as our mascot, we need a bloodthirsty juggernaut of a beast that knows how to fornicate with a garden hose, and fornicate well, by God! Furthermore, Ghel suggested we wait until Un-Bestiary is afinni or whatever you said, which (for all of you who didn't know like me) means "finished". Now, this is a "content-free" Uncyclopedia anyone can edit, so it won't truly be finished until the internet crashes, someone deletes the page, or the Taahgaarxians come and devour us all, so...we need a logo and mascot now to make us look all professissionnable and all and encourage others to contribute, and SLT (stuff like that). God, I love to hear my self type... --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 00:23, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, so here is what has been suggested as our mascot and logo already:

  • Sugarglider (by me, DiZ the Great)
  • Monochrome badger (by Ghelae the Mediocre)
  • Old Book with Gold Letters saying Un-Bestiary, with mascot somewhere on it. (by Uncyclopedian the much much greater than DiZ)
  • Also, can't rule out Taahgaarxians if anyone wants to nominate them

Questions

Um, how does UnSpecies fit in with the whole UnBestiary phylum. A wikimedia.org-style front page (with the project logos) was hastily tossed together when meta: was dumped wherever it is this week, these icons link UnSource and UnSpecies to meta: namespaces which are really just demos, at most a few pages each. The UnSpecies main page links to en:UnBestiary here - are the two the same project (a WikiSpecies parody) under different names, or is the plan to take them in different directions? --Carlb 01:04, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Truly, it was Ghelae who created the UnSpecies demo. I had nothing to do with it and I only found out about it after I created the Un-Bestiary for my own purposes. I assumed at the time that Un-Bestiary was going to somehow be merged in the Un-Species project, but I'm not sure what the plan is. You'll have to ask Ghelae; here's his Talk Page for convenience, or wait till he answers here, I know he prowls the village dump like a bloated badger every once in a while, so your questions will probably be answered soon enough. --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 01:15, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
If your question is the last bit you typed, then... I don't know. UnSpecies is a parody of WikiSpecies, the idea is too eventually make nonsensical classifications or whatever. The UB, however, is a listing of the major Uncyc animals. So... *shrugs*. ~ Ghelæ talkcontribs 16:49, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Voting Booths (HangingChad-Tested)

And here are the votes for our candidates; feel free to add your opinions or nominees (I'm only nominating my own choice, so everyone else will have to nominate the blank spots themselves):

Tweetie, the Sophiabird

Score: +3, +omg

Sugarglider

Score: +3
  • Nom and For The article has been deleted, but if revived and fed nutritional supplements, it might make a good bloodthirsty mascot. --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 00:23, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • For Oh yeah, it was killed, but it's spirit may live on. Uncyclopedian 23:17, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • For I still maintain that the Sugarglider is the most dangerous creature on earth and that Savethemooses is working for them. Bring back the article and make th sugarglider our mascot so that none will forget its evil ways! --Alcarcalimo 17:46, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Badger

Score: -2

Uncyclopedian's Old Book saying Un-Bestiary on it

Score: +1

Nom and For Uncyclopedian 21:17, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Taahgaarxian

  • Hey! If that is so, than you should have your votes removed for keeping other people from voting. Uncyclopedian 23:19, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Plus, why? I removed my against votes, except for the tweety the pair of potatoes one. Plus, I thought for a bit, and voted For on Sugarglider. Uncyclopedian 23:21, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
One, I only have to keep people from voting Against on everything like you did. If everyone voted like that, we'd be at stalemate over this issue. Two, I wrote the above comment before you changed your votes, so sorry if you thought I still meant it. There, it's crossed out. --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 23:28, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
One, the only two logos which are worthwhile are the book and the sugarglider.


Combine All

Score: +1

For the combined forces of all logo choices shall rule the world! Mwa bwa ha ha ha ha ha! Uncyclopedian 23:37, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Other

  • I say it should be either some animal made out of a potato (to keep consistent with the most of Uncyc) or a grue. —Hinoa refuses to conform! 01:22, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Wow, you really like to go against the grain, don't ya? How about a Potato Grue? Or a Grue eating a potato? Or how about Hinoa dying in a pool of rat urine as Taahgaarxians eat his entrails? I like that last one. What do you propose? --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 01:26, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
I propose you start cleaning the Beastiary. The current stench makes the Aegean stables seem like a patch of flowers. But as for logos, I'm not sure we need one, really. This isn't like a seperate project (yet), it's just a part of Uncyc. But if we do get a logo, a potato grue sounds good. —Sir Major Hinoa [TALK] [KUN] 01:56, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
What's wrong with the Bestiary (not Beastiary)? Care to elaborate or will I have to further fornicate you with a garden hose? --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 01:58, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments

I NEVER PROPOSED

A BADGER FOR THE LOGO!

I JUST SAID THAT SOMETHING LIKE THE UNSPECIES LOGO,

NOT ACTUALLY A BADGER! ~ Ghelæ the Excessivetalkcontribs 14:45, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, thank you, Ghelae, for your blatant unadletered vandalism, and sorry, but I assumed if you chose to put a monochrome badger on the UnSpecies logo, you wanted a frikkin' monochrome badger on the logo!! Now answer Carlb's question, or I'll fornicate your anal column with a garden hose goddamit!! --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 15:12, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

1) I didn't have the idea for the badger in the first place, 2) Where's Carlb's question, and 3) No thanks! ~ Ghelæ talkcontribs 16:07, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
1.) Then why was the badger there? 2.)His question is on the segment here that says "Questions". 3.) Don't knock it till you've tried it. --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 16:43, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
1) Carlb made it from the old Uncapaedia logo, 2) I've answered now, 3) Still a no. ~ Ghelæ talkcontribs 16:50, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
1.)Okay, that answers my questions. 2.) I'm still a bit unclear, but fine. 3.) You don't know what you're missing. --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 16:58, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
1) Good, 2) I like confusing people, 3) I'm sure what I'm missing is bad. ~ Ghelæ talkcontribs 17:09, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Whatever, if fornication via garden hose isn't your thing, that's fine, but I'm just saying, at least give it a chance... --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 17:18, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
No thanks... *burns DiZ's garden hoses* ~ Ghelæ talkcontribs 17:25, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
You do understand "garden hose" was a euphemism, right? --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 17:32, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Well... you might need some water now... ~ Ghelæ talkcontribs 17:51, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
I need ointment...This isn't the first time this has happenned, ya' know? Many a times has my garden hose been slashed, burnt, or ruptured. Oh, also, thanx for the help on my Hall Hero thing thing...<rubs ointment on garden hose> --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 18:13, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
*gives DiZ potion* there you go. ~ Ghelæ talkcontribs 18:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
I better take this before the Taahgaarxians smell the blood...--Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 18:19, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Word: "unadletered vandalism" is when you add "{{:Vandalism/example on wheels!}}" to a page without nowiki tags. --L
With the "subst:", of course! ~ Ghelæ talkcontribs 18:04, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Quick comments from Uncyclopedian

  1. I came, and this is on my watchlist. I brought cake, but just for DiZ and I. Uncyclopedian 21:21, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  2. No, I brought this logo discussion up, DiZ! Look back at the talk page! Uncyclopedian 21:26, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  3. Look on your Hall of Heroes, DiZ, and look at my new name. Uncyclopedian 23:31, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
My baaaad....I coulda' sworn it was Ghels...I guess cause he was the one who suggested the badger thing (kidding, I know the badger wasn't your idea, G). Oh, and you can't vote against on everything that isn't your book. You can vote for as many times as you want, but everyone only gets one against vote, make a choice now, or I'll delete all of your votes. Besides, no one has even nominated the Taahgaarxian yet. If you don't watch out, the Taahgaarxians will eat you, regardless of your political or religious affiliations. Dontbeamartyr!! Fornicatewithagardenhose!! Killthecommunists!! Hailsatan!! --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 23:10, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Removed all against except for Tweety. Uncyclopedian 23:16, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Not Tweetie.....<whimpers pathetically> <shoots Uncyc a dirty glance> I'll sick the Taahgaarxians on you... --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 23:21, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, but I dislike the picture that has been made of Tweety. Plus, I have a Taahgaarxian Killing Ray Gun, and a shield made out of your hall of heroes. Plus, I am known in your HOH as Uncyclopedian the Stealthy, Bringer of Cake to All(especially himself), Court Jester of the Primary Court of DiZ the Great, Undefeated Stealth Master, Leader of the Fifth, and Weakest, Division of DiZ's Army(only a few soldiers there, and they suck), Secondary Admiral of the Seven Seas in the Kingom of DiZ the Great, and Ironically Fifth in Line To Throne. Uncyclopedian 23:25, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Ha! Taahgaarxian Killing Ray Gun? Please, the only thing that can stop a bloodthirsty Taahgaarxian is a monkey, the official foot soldier of Charles Darwin's army. Or love for humanity, either one works. --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 23:30, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
The fifth division of your army is made of a few monkeys and I. I lead them, Taahgaarxian scum shall die to the weak Fifth Division! Mwa ha ha! Uncyclopedian 23:40, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Umm...only Darwin has the power to command killer monkeys of deeth. Besides, everyone knows Taahgaarxians only kill atheists. --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 23:46, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
<brings out box of Clockwork Monkeys> As Otis once said, "Monkeys!" Uncyclopedian 00:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Do you always carry clockwork monkeys around with you? Better than carrying a double-jointed midget, I suppose. <takes out double-jointed midget from pocket> <throws double-jointed midget in the air> <shoots double-jointed midget with an AK-47 and finishes off with a roundhouse kick to the face> --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 00:33, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
I always do. My motto is "Be Prepared, and slip in a Monkey Island reference anywhere possible." Uncyclopedian 00:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC) Plus, check out my name in the Hall of Heroes. Uncyclopedian 00:39, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Ah, yes, Uncyclopedian the Stealthy. Personally, I liked your old epithet, but the fact that my high-grade kryptonite has no effect on you must mean something. --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 00:49, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, but I am the Guy who is immune to kryptonite. Ha! Plus, I have the longest epithet. Uncyclopedian 00:53, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
No, your epithet is "Uncyclopedian the Stealthy". Your rank is the longest (Bringer of Cake to All (especially himself), Court Jester of the Primary Court of DiZ the Great, Undefeated Stealth Master, Leader of the Fifth, and Weakest, Division of DiZ's Army(only a few soldiers there, and they suck), Secondary Admiral of the Seven Seas in the Kingom of DiZ the Great, and Ironically Fifth in Line To Throne). --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 01:09, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
I will try to get it longer. Uncyclopedian 01:14, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
No, for the love of God, don't!!!! --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 01:17, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Already did. Uncyclopedian 01:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, i noticed. I wanna see how far we can stretch this indentation? --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 01:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Look far right, DiZ Uncyclopedian ->
OK Uncyclopedian
YOU ARE GOD!!!!! Anyways, I've gotta log out already. You can leave me a message, but I won't get it until morning. --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 01:53, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Not finished yet. Far right again.
See! Uncyclopedian

The Zombiebaron Set

Okay, I made a couple of Logos. Feel free to do what ever you want with them, exept huff them (until I say so). --The Zombiebaron 17:03, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

  • UnBestiarylogo1.png
  • UnBestiarylogo2.png
  • UnBestiarylogo3.png
  • UnBestiarylogo4.png

Hmmm. I like the first one. Not too crazy about the animal of choice, but I like it. Good job, and I think I might reconsider the badger again if this becomes the logo. --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 17:06, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Good, but would be better with a different animal. Uncyclopedian
The badger actually works with this one. So I say keep it... --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 17:09, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
I am in the process of making more, with a diffrent animal. I am only gonna change the animal though. --The Zombiebaron 17:09, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
  • UnBestiaryGrue.png

Not that I condone grues, its just someone was bound to think of it, and I wanted to do it first. --The Zombiebaron 17:20, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Uncyclopedian
NO!!!!!!!!!!Can you try it with a sugarglider? Here's the original pic if you need it: Image:Sugar_Glider_Attack.jpg. --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 17:26, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Sugargliders are better than grues, though. Uncyclopedian
  • UnBestiarySugar.png

Here is your sugar glider. --The Zombiebaron 17:45, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

WOW!! Can't you get it more centered or something, it's looking off to the left? If not, it's great anyways. Yaaah!! --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 17:55, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!Uncyclopedian
FOR!! If that isn't hell ladies and gentlemen, i don't know what is. That is exactly what we need on unbestiary, the scariest, most gruesome animal ever --Alcarcalimo 17:51, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
  • UnBestiaryUmlaut.png

Okay, I just made this last one, cause it was easy. Acctaully DiZ (look! I spelt it to your liking!) it is centered, its just the face is rotated slightly and I don't wanna rotate it so that the top is "flat". Anyway, I hope you boys that work on the UnBestiary thing like all the logos that I made. --The Zombiebaron 20:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, and thank you 4 spelling my name right. One question, and this is for anyone who knows: How do we format it so that it appears on the top left, like all the other logos? Cause that would look awesome...--Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 20:40, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Why not just a horseshoe on its own, open end facing up, as a U-shaped icon? --Carlb 20:42, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Because it looks better to some people with the monster inside. Uncyclopedian
No, because we're a bestiary, not an online alphabet. If you want to use a letter as your logo, start an....UnAlphabet. Hey, that's an idea....No, that's retarded (in other words, perfect for this place). --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 20:51, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
UnAlphabet would be pretty useless. Marshal Uncyclopedian! Talk to me!
I vote this one because unlike the others, I laughed out loud at it - David Gerard 09:12, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, here's the deal, i can put the logo up there for you, but it's kind of frowned upon, especially since this sin't even a featured article or anything, It's not that it's alot of work or anything, it's just the logos are supposed to be reserved for very special pages and reskins and whatnot. If you're absolutely sure you want a logo, and you promise not to ask for a custom logo on every page you make, I'll put the logo of your choice up as soon as you tell me your choice. HOMESTAR ME!!! TURTLE ME!!! t o m p k i n s  blah. ﺞوﻦ וףה ՃՄ ண்ஸ ފއހ วอฏม +տ trade websites 22:22, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and by the way, I'm speaking to DiZ here... not anyone else. HOMESTAR ME!!! TURTLE ME!!! t o m p k i n s  blah. ﺞوﻦ וףה ՃՄ ண்ஸ ފއހ วอฏม +տ trade websites 22:24, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Maybe we should wait a little longer. You know, till we have at least two creatures on every letter, a bigger team of contributors, and maybe then it'll get featured. Still, I wouldn't ask for a logo on all pages, just the main one titled "Un-Bestiary". Basically, the best reason I could think of to justify putting up a logo now is because this is a parody website, and we need something to parody WikiSpecies, since they have a logo. I think waiting would be best, though. Let's give it a bit more time, and when it's fully consummated and ripe we'll let you know. You're an admin, unless your User Page lies, so I assume you know what you're talking about and your actions will certainly be welcomed more than us lesser beings'. Maybe that's why Template:UnBestiary got huffed. Anyways, keep that in mind and I'll leave a message on your talk page when it's ready. --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 13:57, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
I'll be ready. HOMESTAR ME!!! TURTLE ME!!! t o m p k i n s  blah. ﺞوﻦ וףה ՃՄ ண்ஸ ފއހ วอฏม +տ trade websites 18:24, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I just read on Talk:Un-Bestiary from some guy (MoneySign, I think) that a page can't have its own corner logo until it gets its own namespace. Is that true, and if so, how would it go about doing that? --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 18:39, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
What do you mean "Is that true"? You think I don't know what I'm talking about? You think Tompkins, the younger and newer admin, somehow magically knows things better than me? Pfff... You people sicken me... --~ sin($) tan(€) 19:35, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Obviously MoneySign's excessive penii sucking has led him to believe that he can't be wrong. Unfortunately for Money, Uncyclopedia has MediaWiki:Skin which allows any page to have its own logo... HOMESTAR ME!!! TURTLE ME!!! t o m p k i n s  blah. ﺞوﻦ וףה ՃՄ ண்ஸ ފއހ วอฏม +տ trade websites 20:07, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
That requires a change to the sitewide javascript for each affected page. Possible, but generally discouraged around here. Attempting to get a custom namespace is even more difficult; meta.uncyclomedia.org has a few as any bureaucrat there can create them on Special:Namespaces, but here we don't have access to do that - only Wikia staff do and it's a direct change which must be made to a file on the server. --Carlb 20:29, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
So, basically, what's the final consensus (I think that's spelled right): we really shouldn't make such drastic changes until we know this side-project, or whatever you wanna call it becomes relatively influential, large, important, etc. and (especially) shiny, like UnBooks, UnNews, and other sister projects have, otherwise it just wouldn't be worth it all. Or not? What's the verdict? P.S: Yes, MoneySign, I think Tompkins, being a newer and younger admin, is simply shinier and less run-down than you, therefore knows better than. Sorry if I have sickened thee in any way, tis in my nature to cause discomfort of the highest degree. Plus, you called my template ugly. You're ugly, your mother's ugly Okay, no, I admit that last statement was crossing the line. I've got nasty sunburn and it's making me testy. --Señor DiZtheGreat Honor me! CUN AOTM ( Worship me!) (Praise me!) (Join me!) AMEN! 22:44, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
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