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I've just noticed that 2 articles have been huffed - Species and Wrong (I started these). From my hazy memory, they weren't awful articles, what's the deal? Aaadddaaammm 19:35, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Maybe they weren't that bad, but apparently, people didn't think they were worth keeping. Sorry for any discomfort. -Sockpuppet of an unregistered user 20:59, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

As per Socky. They probably weren't good enough to keep. Try reading the Beginner's Guide. I'm not meaning to discourage or insult you in any way, but you should try to be a better editer and maybe your articles may be good. That, or take the userspace example and make User:Aaadddaaammm/Species and User:Aaadddaaammm/Wrong and they'll be under YOUR namespace, so only YOU can edit it without permission. Everyone else has to ask. Glad I could help you out here, reply on this. SPARTAN-984|Chat here|What I've Done 21:08, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Wrong was very listy and was voted for deletion, like it says in the logs, and species had an {{expand}} tag on it which expired, like it says in the logs. - T.L.B. WotM, UotM, FPrize, AotM, ANotM, PLS, UN:HS, GUN 00:44, Feb 2

You and your logs! Logs can't quantify love, man! Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 05:03, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

But what about Special:Log/QuantifiedLove? - T.L.B. WotM, UotM, FPrize, AotM, ANotM, PLS, UN:HS, GUN 00:14, Feb 3

No matching items in log. -Sockpuppet of an unregistered user 00:15, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Aaadddaaammm, I'm sorry, man. I've tried to instill a mindset of preservation, where the only things that are deleted are actually crap. Sadly, it seems that every time I'm moderately successful (and I've sadly run off some awesome users in my efforts), someone else comes along with a flamethrower who can't actually write but can tell he doesn't think something is funny. "I'm helping! I'm helping!" and 500 articles that really weren't that bad go down the drain. Some of them not bad, but actually weathered away by IP edits. I guess all I can do is restore your edits to your userspace, if you wish.--<<>> 12:45, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

This is why I don't think {{expand}} tags should expire at all... aren't they supposed to be more of an informational thing? • Spang • ☃ • talk • 00:44, 03 Feb 2009

Example: Synthesizer. There's no way that article is anywhere near bad enough to delete, yet is tagged for expansion, because another section or two might be nice. Minor maintenance tags shouldn't be deletion reasons. • Spang • ☃ • talk • 00:49, 03 Feb 2009

I agree, maybe if we went to one "fix this in 30 days or we'll delete this" maintenance tag. It doesn't make sense that an expand tag can get stuff deleted, yet a stub or hard rewrite doesn't. --S'r Mnbvcxz 06:50, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

OK thanks for all the replies. Here is a reply of my own. Those of you that said "they must have been bad enough to be deleted, if they were deleted" are using a rather circular logic like defining a cow as "a species of the cow family". Personally, I agree with the sentiments that stuff should be preserved, unless it is BAD. Anyways, I'm not whinging, just discussing. Brad, I'd be much obliged if you'd restore those articles to my userspace so I can do a bit of a post mortem. Thanks! Aaadddaaammm 21:02, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Done. They're at User:Aaadddaaammm/Species & User:Aaadddaaammm/Wrong. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 00:37, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Modus. I'm always well-intentioned, but suck at executing things. I tried to put my cat to sleep, but it turned out all wrong.--<<>> 01:39, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Normally, Mordillo would do it, but he's too busy...doing absolutely everything else. I told him that no amount of work here is going to help him lose weight, and that diet and exercise would be far more effective, but the big guy is determined to prove me wrong. Then he threw a side of beef at me and I fled. When the beef missed he got madder, and he chased me. It was like running away from a fleshy tsunami. I have nightmares about it. Sweet, sweet homoerotic nightmares. I've said too much. Tell no one of this. No one! Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 04:57, 4 February 2009 (UTC)