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Owing to how much of Freenode's staff resigned, Freenode's future has become uncertain. As such, I am proposing a migration to #uncyclopedia on libera.chat. I have already claimed said channel name, so getting it should be a non-issue. Please let me know if you are okay with us moving IRC server to Libera.  Cassandra  (talk) 13:18, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

• Not that it matters all that much considering IRC is pretty much dead, but even if you do manage to convince our IRC userbase to migrate to a different IRC server, I don't think whatever the hell libera.chat is would be the server. Judging from their website, libera.chat was created only a few hours ago by some disgruntled former Freenode volunteers. I'm not sure why Freenode's future is made uncertain by the loss of these volunteers, but Freenode is still the largest IRC server on the internet, with 3 times as many users as IRCnet, the second largest. Moving the decaying remnants of Uncyclopedia's IRC channel to any smaller server (let alone one that was launched only a few hours ago) would probably be the final nail in its coffin, unless you can convince our IRC denizens to move all of their other channels too. I'm not opposed to seeing the libera.chat channel developed as a separate beast if that's something you want to spend time maintaining, but unless Freenode's current staff members are caught trafficking young children in storage containers or something equally mischievous, I'm pretty much entirely against migrating the server elsewhere. — SG1|Hereish ^{[citation needed]} 14:36, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
• I don't think that an IRC channel about an encyclopedia really makes sense to belong on an IRC server for open-source [sic] software projects. JJP_Master 17:21, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

  Like Supergeeky said, People still use IRC? I thought it was basically just Discord at this point... If anything the link to the IRC should just redirect to our discord channel at this point. WohMi, the Dueling King (talk) 17:25, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

  What they said. IRC, at this point, is a dinosaur that doesn't know it's extinct. PF4Eva, the President of Imagination Vote for me My tax returns 22:03, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

  Git off my lawn ya pesky kids! -- Jack Phoenix, professional killer admin (Whine?) • (Wikia ♥ ads) 23:19, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

• Strong Against. I remember in 2006 when lilo died people thought it was going to be the end of FreeNode, and it wasn't. I don't think FreeNode is going anywhere and this proposed migration would only serve to further alienate our cadre of IRC lurkers. -- The Zombiebaron 22:31, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

I'm more or less neutral concerning this, for now at least, because of how so many things remain up in the air. I believe that this conversation should still be discussed once the flames have cooled down to some extent and if things still are concern, this should be put back into consideration.

Or otherwise, we can base our decision off Wikipedia's (they are discussing it right now).  Cassandra  (talk) 22:37, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

It seems that freenode itself isn't going anywhere, that's true; but a lot of people, staff and users alike, sure have jumped ship. The big question is "do we trust this Andrew Lee guy?" or as I'd word it, "do we have any reason to trust this Andrew Lee guy, given the facts"? I might even do a very un-me-like thing and assume good faith (!) but I'm still not finding any such reasons, alas. -- Jack Phoenix, professional killer admin (Whine?) • (Wikia ♥ ads) 23:19, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Same here. This is the biggest danger; Freenode users' data may be in danger owing to this Andrew Lee. Basically, Freenode is becoming a monarchy. Proof of this is with Vim migrating to libera.  Cassandra  (talk) 09:52, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

I posted this on IRC yesterday, but it bears repeating here: We've had some pretty horrible dealings with a lot of our former contacts at Freenode anyway (a big motivation in switching the primary chat over to Discord), ranging from extremely delayed contact during emergencies, to having one of these Freenode contacts harass and doxx an administrator here using private information pulled from their account registration. I'm sure the Freenode situation sucks for people who don't want a Korean Crown Prince having access to their data, assuming staff didn't always have access to it. I'm all in favor of those people creating Uncyclopedia-themed chats in every corner of the internet if Discord and Freenode aren't a viable option for them. But if Uncyclopedia ever found itself moving to a different IRC server, that time would have been at least 5 or 6 years ago. It probably would have been a server with a proven track record, that doesn't require jumping through extra hoops to join, and most important of all, run by people who haven't been a consistent source of problems for us over the last 15 years. My biggest concern with any of our chatrooms is that new users can easily join and seek help from experienced contributors in a timely manner, and if these new users are also expected to download ancient IRC clients and configure them with IP addresses and ports, then we're clearly going about this the wrong way. — SG1|Hereish ^{[citation needed]} 16:24, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

• Wait and see I do think a lot of people are jumping the gun with this. Jumping to an unproven network such as Libera that was set up as part of a revolt probably isn't the smartest move. Nobody really knows what's going to happen and I'd rather not jump ship unless it was really that bad. Besides, Discord is where it's at. -- Lost Labyrinth • (t) • (c) • (a) 22:30, 20 May 2021 (UTC)