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Does it work? Sir MacMania GUN—[00:55 25 Aug 2010]

If I'm not done with this by around... Thursday morning (whatever time zone you're in...), go ahead, <insert name here>, and review it. -- DameViktoria - (Contribs) - (Talk) - (Block log) 14:23, 11 Oct

Consider this a warning, next booking that does not have a review attached within 24 hours will result in a 2 day ban. --ChiefjusticePS3 21:29, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

I also did leave clear instructions about when the time is by which it is free for someone else to review, since there's a limit to how long it can be dibsed for, and I did technically specify the date (October 14th)... Sadly, real life interfered. As is, I do not consider a warning to be appropriate, as I was aware that I may end up not having time to review it, and clearly stated so well in advance. -- DameViktoria - (Contribs) - (Talk) - (Block log) 21:10, 29 Nov

Oh, very well. I'll review this. Soonish. ~ *shifty eyes* (talk) • (stalk) -- 20101127 - 21:39 (UTC)

Concept:	7	You wondered if it works? I think it works. Bits of it are a mite odd, but overall, the ideas and presentation here are just grand, and combining the two things of the same name, a trick that I am starting to get rather used to seeing around here, does work in this case. The things, after all, are similar, very similar - this is why the one was named after that other, so how far a stretch is it to make the original into essentially a pre-technological version of the current? Enough to be amusing, methinks. Some things, though... A problem for a technical person like me is... it's not enough. How could such a thing even have existed? I want to know how it worked, and how it works. How does it match up the phrases and symbols and words? Was there magic involved? Which languages does it even use, the hieratic, demotic, etc? But for that matter, why do you go into such detail about these at all? If the hieratic gave way to the demotic, why would they both be in use? Maybe that's a typical thing with languages, or even just the way you worded it, but it confuses me a mite and I'm not even sure how all the information about these helps, for that matter. Anyways, I was saying, or getting to saying, the instruction is also a little strange. The how bothers me - as it is, it seems like it could be anything from magic to really tiny print, and from the prototype images, it could well be a combination of the two. While vagueness isn't really an issue, despite how much I might like technical stuff, you do hint at it a few places... hence my confusion. How in the blazes would it match ΠΤΟΛΕΜΑΙΟΣ to the cartouche? The ending, too, has me at a bit of a loss - of course there would be criticism of such an innovative piece of... whatever this was a piece of. And of course it would be important; this is a product entry, and all. How was it actually received, though? It makes no mention of what those for whom it was originally intended made of it; no records at all were found? How did the 13-year-old pharaoh respond to this potential slight, or was his response why it did or didn't reach whatever production levels, if that makes any sense? The juxtaposition of typical modern tourists or businessfolks using it and venturing to ancient Egypt is great, however. It just not answer all that I might have expected. And the discovery at the beginning and thievery at the end, I'm assuming these are words for the same thing? This may or may not be something with which to be consistent, but the note at the end felt a mite out of place, not so much that it oughn't be there, but that there should be further reference to how it was procured earlier as well, or something. And the response is just lost on me completely. I just don't understand - 'Steady on'? What? The article to which it links doesn't help in the slightest... in fact, I think it made me lose whatever comprehension I had before clicking the link. Final links in articles are powerful things, after all...
Humour:	9	Eh, 'sides the lovely idea, the humour is pretty decent throughout this, not that I'd expect anything less of you... when are you getting back here, anyhow? Er, anyhow... hmm. The introduction really isn't that strong, actually. I completely forgot the points that it made later. Though it does set the scene fairly well, it needs funnies. Something. More about the court, perhaps, since that comes up again later, and perhaps something about just how it was procured by these archaeologists... and how important it has been since, say for learning hieroglyphs at the last minute, or some other nonsense. Need to ask something about [insert phrase from later on in the article here] and it... well, I'm sure you can come up with something. Sections, anyhow: History - Gods and flamingos, eh? Sounds like... er... fun. Love how you start this off, though. What is this 'taste of their own medicine', though? I mean, it's hard to read and harder to write, but what exactly is the problem with translating, and what is the figurative medicine? May way to spell it out more, because I suspect whatever it is should be rather amusing. I already mentioned that the numbers and whatnot can get to be a little too specific, but for the most part, they make their points well, the distinct disparities and whatnot. Just be careful you don't do too much, eh? Especially since this is the only place where they come up at all. Begs the question, though... were their censuses really that precise? Or accurate, for that matter... might be able to make a funny about that, too. Was it dubbed the Rosetta for a specific reason? Somehow, it feels like it was and that you just didn't specify, instead of it being a complete non-sequiter which would be a lot more amusing. Perhaps if you make it more sudden, it might help... or something. The poor silly Champollion, though... nice. Instruction method - I love this part. As I pointed out before, the how bemused me, but the whats that you outline are pretty damn funny... or maybe that's the other way around? The levels and whatnot, anyhow. I'm not sure if this would get too repetitive or not, but since you included examples of the phrasings with the last two levels, why not from the first as well, but even more incredibly simple and useless? The way you used the words specifically in the second was certainly amusing. Why does 'revision' link to 'blasphemy'? Criticism - As I mentioned already, I think a bit in here on the original Ancient Egyption reception might also be a good idea - even if all it is are bits compiled from students' coursework, or whatnot. You know how students can be, yes? Very, very strange creatures... No dictionary or grammar reference at all, though? How, exactly, does this thing function? Or was all of it just stuff that is not remotely useful, and there was no look-up of anything that would be useful? The quote sort of gives an impression, though, and is pretty good in general, so at least the confusion fades pretty quickly amidst the laughs. The license - two things. D'oh, and I love the links. Absolutely adore them. Everything else about this, I either already mentioned, or forgot about, so it can't be that important. Although... did I mention I don't understand the quote at the end? Because I don't. And this bothers me. A little.
Prose and formatting:	7	Lovely. Really. Good tone, didn't notice any grammatical or spelling issues, the overall organisation works, and... yeah. Look to the overall fluency, of sections and ideas, though - some of concepts would probably do better with more consistent reference throughout the thing. Overall, though, really quite lovely.
Images:	8	It's funny, but the worst image here is probably that of the actual Rosetta stone. The one you put together and the box-set Meep assembled are just perfect for the piece... then again, the way you present all three works just fine, anyway. Might want to explain why the large rock one is so large and rocky and dark - easiest to produce that way, or something, unlike the nicer prototypes?
Miscellaneous:	8	That lady has a bird on her head... oh, wait, that's an image comment. Miscellaneous comment... eh, number. Gut feeling? That kind of thing.
Final Score:	39	So, I'd like to say that this is a lovely piece, that given some go over and clean up and elaboration in a couple of places, or perhaps not, but something, will only go on to become lovelier. Hopefully this shall help, and whatnot. If I made less sense to you as some of the sections in the article made to me, or something, though... well, you know where to find me. Now you just need to get your arse back here and finish it. I'll be waiting. For as long as it takes.
Reviewer:	~ *shifty eyes* (talk) • (stalk) -- 20101128 - 02:25 (UTC)

7	Concept The idea, the angle, the grand funny of the article...
	You wondered if it works? I think it works. Bits of it are a mite odd, but overall, the ideas and presentation here are just grand, and combining the two things of the same name, a trick that I am starting to get rather used to seeing around here, does work in this case. The things, after all, are similar, very similar - this is why the one was named after that other, so how far a stretch is it to make the original into essentially a pre-technological version of the current? Enough to be amusing, methinks. Some things, though... A problem for a technical person like me is... it's not enough. How could such a thing even have existed? I want to know how it worked, and how it works. How does it match up the phrases and symbols and words? Was there magic involved? Which languages does it even use, the hieratic, demotic, etc? But for that matter, why do you go into such detail about these at all? If the hieratic gave way to the demotic, why would they both be in use? Maybe that's a typical thing with languages, or even just the way you worded it, but it confuses me a mite and I'm not even sure how all the information about these helps, for that matter. Anyways, I was saying, or getting to saying, the instruction is also a little strange. The how bothers me - as it is, it seems like it could be anything from magic to really tiny print, and from the prototype images, it could well be a combination of the two. While vagueness isn't really an issue, despite how much I might like technical stuff, you do hint at it a few places... hence my confusion. How in the blazes would it match ΠΤΟΛΕΜΑΙΟΣ to the cartouche? The ending, too, has me at a bit of a loss - of course there would be criticism of such an innovative piece of... whatever this was a piece of. And of course it would be important; this is a product entry, and all. How was it actually received, though? It makes no mention of what those for whom it was originally intended made of it; no records at all were found? How did the 13-year-old pharaoh respond to this potential slight, or was his response why it did or didn't reach whatever production levels, if that makes any sense? The juxtaposition of typical modern tourists or businessfolks using it and venturing to ancient Egypt is great, however. It just not answer all that I might have expected. And the discovery at the beginning and thievery at the end, I'm assuming these are words for the same thing? This may or may not be something with which to be consistent, but the note at the end felt a mite out of place, not so much that it oughn't be there, but that there should be further reference to how it was procured earlier as well, or something. And the response is just lost on me completely. I just don't understand - 'Steady on'? What? The article to which it links doesn't help in the slightest... in fact, I think it made me lose whatever comprehension I had before clicking the link. Final links in articles are powerful things, after all...
9	Humour The implementation, how funny the article comes out...
	Eh, 'sides the lovely idea, the humour is pretty decent throughout this, not that I'd expect anything less of you... when are you getting back here, anyhow? Er, anyhow... hmm. The introduction really isn't that strong, actually. I completely forgot the points that it made later. Though it does set the scene fairly well, it needs funnies. Something. More about the court, perhaps, since that comes up again later, and perhaps something about just how it was procured by these archaeologists... and how important it has been since, say for learning hieroglyphs at the last minute, or some other nonsense. Need to ask something about [insert phrase from later on in the article here] and it... well, I'm sure you can come up with something. Sections, anyhow: History - Gods and flamingos, eh? Sounds like... er... fun. Love how you start this off, though. What is this 'taste of their own medicine', though? I mean, it's hard to read and harder to write, but what exactly is the problem with translating, and what is the figurative medicine? May way to spell it out more, because I suspect whatever it is should be rather amusing. I already mentioned that the numbers and whatnot can get to be a little too specific, but for the most part, they make their points well, the distinct disparities and whatnot. Just be careful you don't do too much, eh? Especially since this is the only place where they come up at all. Begs the question, though... were their censuses really that precise? Or accurate, for that matter... might be able to make a funny about that, too. Was it dubbed the Rosetta for a specific reason? Somehow, it feels like it was and that you just didn't specify, instead of it being a complete non-sequiter which would be a lot more amusing. Perhaps if you make it more sudden, it might help... or something. The poor silly Champollion, though... nice. Instruction method - I love this part. As I pointed out before, the how bemused me, but the whats that you outline are pretty damn funny... or maybe that's the other way around? The levels and whatnot, anyhow. I'm not sure if this would get too repetitive or not, but since you included examples of the phrasings with the last two levels, why not from the first as well, but even more incredibly simple and useless? The way you used the words specifically in the second was certainly amusing. Why does 'revision' link to 'blasphemy'? Criticism - As I mentioned already, I think a bit in here on the original Ancient Egyption reception might also be a good idea - even if all it is are bits compiled from students' coursework, or whatnot. You know how students can be, yes? Very, very strange creatures... No dictionary or grammar reference at all, though? How, exactly, does this thing function? Or was all of it just stuff that is not remotely useful, and there was no look-up of anything that would be useful? The quote sort of gives an impression, though, and is pretty good in general, so at least the confusion fades pretty quickly amidst the laughs. The license - two things. D'oh, and I love the links. Absolutely adore them. Everything else about this, I either already mentioned, or forgot about, so it can't be that important. Although... did I mention I don't understand the quote at the end? Because I don't. And this bothers me. A little.
7	Prose and formatting Appearance, flow, overall presentation...
	Lovely. Really. Good tone, didn't notice any grammatical or spelling issues, the overall organisation works, and... yeah. Look to the overall fluency, of sections and ideas, though - some of concepts would probably do better with more consistent reference throughout the thing. Overall, though, really quite lovely.
8	Images The graphics themselves, as well as their humour and relevance...
	It's funny, but the worst image here is probably that of the actual Rosetta stone. The one you put together and the box-set Meep assembled are just perfect for the piece... then again, the way you present all three works just fine, anyway. Might want to explain why the large rock one is so large and rocky and dark - easiest to produce that way, or something, unlike the nicer prototypes?
8	Miscellaneous Anything else... or not...
	That lady has a bird on her head... oh, wait, that's an image comment. Miscellaneous comment... eh, number. Gut feeling? That kind of thing.
39	Final score ~ *shifty eyes* (talk) • (stalk) -- 20101128 - 02:25 (UTC)
	So, I'd like to say that this is a lovely piece, that given some go over and clean up and elaboration in a couple of places, or perhaps not, but something, will only go on to become lovelier. Hopefully this shall help, and whatnot. If I made less sense to you as some of the sections in the article made to me, or something, though... well, you know where to find me. Now you just need to get your arse back here and finish it. I'll be waiting. For as long as it takes.