Talk:Capitalism
there are faaar too many shite things at the top...
Ahh, but such is the way with capitalism. 98.169.190.212 23:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
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I just re-made the Obama capitalism section. It explains better how he saved crapitalism with next generation's cash...
Go to cuba, motherfucker
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Should the "Two cows" section be alphabetized since most of the section already is? ARandomPage (talk) 23:21, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
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@The PS2 Guy: lol forgetting about your hilariously lacking knowledge of history, that image just isn’t funny. Stop adding it. Last warning. MrX 17:56, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- @MrX: I'm just saying the Nazis didn't abandon private property. The PS2 Guy☭ 18:01, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- You don’t have to completely abandon private property to be socialist. Even AOC isn’t advocating that, at least not yet. The National Socialist German Workers' Party maintained strict control over every aspect of the German economy. They were the poster child for socialism. MrX 18:09, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- I don't see them as socialists. If the Nazis were socialist, they would've been left-wing. Socialism is left-wing. The PS2 Guy☭ 18:19, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- Economically they were left-wing. MrX 18:31, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- I mean, if you look at the Wikipedia article (not that we trust those guys at all!) the Nazi economy was pretty much a hybrid of Soviet communism and American capitalism. They banned strikes and unions, and were really anti-welfare, but the actions of businesses were heavily regulated. A lot of state owned businesses were "privatized" by putting them into hands of organizations that were pretty much still puppets of the state. Oᑭöᔑᔑᙀᙏ (vandalize my talk page) 18:09, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- Communist Hitler? Don't make me laugh. The PS2 Guy☭ 18:25, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- Still sticking your head in the sand? Don’t make me laugh. MrX 18:31, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- @The PS2 Guy: I didn't say he was a communist. And besides, there's a difference between socially right-wing and fiscally right-wing. The political spectrum is not one dimensional. What I meant to say was, the nazis were obviously extreme-right socially/culturally speaking, but that doesn't make them hypercapitalists (and it obviously doesn't make them communist either, like you said.) Fiscally they were pretty much centrists as far as I can see. Oᑭöᔑᔑᙀᙏ (vandalize my talk page) 18:32, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- Still sticking your head in the sand? Don’t make me laugh. MrX 18:31, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- All true, but banning strikes and unions is not anti capitalist. Unions by definition are not necessarily anti capitalist. It’s just the loudest and most obnoxious unions that give other unions that rep. MrX 18:13, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- I know that. I am not arguing for either side here, I'm pretty much in the middle. Oᑭöᔑᔑᙀᙏ (vandalize my talk page) 18:21, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- nazis are not socialists, they simply kept the term "socialist" in their party to fool workers into voting them. although in all fairness nazis also claimed to despise capitalism. I guess their ideology can't be really positioned as their policies weren't go beyond "kill everyone we deem inferior". 🎄🎄🎄DaniPine3 (talk)🎄🎄🎄 18:47, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- You're not wrong. The Nazis claimed to be socialists just to piss workers off. They also claimed to be anti-capitalist. I see them as reactionaries. The PS2 Guy☭ 19:03, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- I mean stick your head in the sand all you want, but the nazis were indeed socialists. And no, that is not some checkmate proving that socialism is bad, just like the equally simply undeniable fact that Hitler was a vegetarian doesn’t prove that vegetarianism is bad. MrX 19:15, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- Say all you want, libtard. The PS2 Guy☭ 19:23, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- I mean stick your head in the sand all you want, but the nazis were indeed socialists. And no, that is not some checkmate proving that socialism is bad, just like the equally simply undeniable fact that Hitler was a vegetarian doesn’t prove that vegetarianism is bad. MrX 19:15, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- You're not wrong. The Nazis claimed to be socialists just to piss workers off. They also claimed to be anti-capitalist. I see them as reactionaries. The PS2 Guy☭ 19:03, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- nazis are not socialists, they simply kept the term "socialist" in their party to fool workers into voting them. although in all fairness nazis also claimed to despise capitalism. I guess their ideology can't be really positioned as their policies weren't go beyond "kill everyone we deem inferior". 🎄🎄🎄DaniPine3 (talk)🎄🎄🎄 18:47, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- I know that. I am not arguing for either side here, I'm pretty much in the middle. Oᑭöᔑᔑᙀᙏ (vandalize my talk page) 18:21, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- Communist Hitler? Don't make me laugh. The PS2 Guy☭ 18:25, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- I don't see them as socialists. If the Nazis were socialist, they would've been left-wing. Socialism is left-wing. The PS2 Guy☭ 18:19, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- You don’t have to completely abandon private property to be socialist. Even AOC isn’t advocating that, at least not yet. The National Socialist German Workers' Party maintained strict control over every aspect of the German economy. They were the poster child for socialism. MrX 18:09, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- I made this diagram to show my (poor) understanding of various nations' economic systems. Feel free to make improvements to it, because it's probably not very accurate. Oᑭöᔑᔑᙀᙏ (vandalize my talk page) 19:23, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- Ok i guess i have something to say in this trainwreck of a discussion. First of all, that diagram makes absolutely no sense to me, and i will therefore not comment on it at all. Second, how were the nazis socialist? Like, at all? I have to ask because it's one of the most bizarre claims i've ever heard in my life. 00:23, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
- Guys. We're an humorous encyclopedia. We're not a political organization. I know Nationalist Bolshevism is a real thing, but not Nationalist Capitalism. I don't really think the image is funny compared to the other ones, who definitely have more effort besides being a flag. 🍂 gergdown🍂(talk) ☀️ 00:28, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
- Whoops, completely forgot this was a discussion about the addition of the nazi-capitalism flag. Uhhhh yeah it doesn't really fit into the article that well and isn't especially funny. I guess that's the conclusion that you all already reached earlier. 00:43, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
- Guys. We're an humorous encyclopedia. We're not a political organization. I know Nationalist Bolshevism is a real thing, but not Nationalist Capitalism. I don't really think the image is funny compared to the other ones, who definitely have more effort besides being a flag. 🍂 gergdown🍂(talk) ☀️ 00:28, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
- Ok i guess i have something to say in this trainwreck of a discussion. First of all, that diagram makes absolutely no sense to me, and i will therefore not comment on it at all. Second, how were the nazis socialist? Like, at all? I have to ask because it's one of the most bizarre claims i've ever heard in my life. 00:23, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
That's why I tried to avoid the discussion altogether by saying "lol forgetting about your hilariously lacking knowledge of history, that image just isn’t funny." PS2 Guy continued. Anyway Alula as I said, they maintained strict control of every aspect of the German economy. I guess more important/relevant to this article, they definitely were not capitalists. And even more important, as Dani said on PS2 Guy's talk page, plastering the nazi flag everywhere isn't funny. MrX 18:42, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
- @MrX: I'm no political nor economical expert, but I'm pretty sure "controlling every aspect of the German economy" isn't what socialism is about. normally socialism and communism ultimately aim to get rid of both state and corporate control over the economy, and put property in the hands of the workers. even if so far few communist goverments have actually achieved that... 🎄🎄🎄DaniPine3 (talk)🎄🎄🎄 22:29, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
- They aim to create equality for everyone (or at least they claim to), and their means of doing this requires strict control of the economy. Otherwise you have some people making more money than others. MrX 16:11, 18 February 2026 (UTC)
- @MrX: I'm no political nor economical expert, but I'm pretty sure "controlling every aspect of the German economy" isn't what socialism is about. normally socialism and communism ultimately aim to get rid of both state and corporate control over the economy, and put property in the hands of the workers. even if so far few communist goverments have actually achieved that... 🎄🎄🎄DaniPine3 (talk)🎄🎄🎄 22:29, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
