User talk:Invincibleflamegruemaster/Archive

My talk page

This is my talkpage. Please be civilized.

Let me ask you a question.

What do you want to get out of being adopted? I can help you get used to this place, but you've already been here a while. Although I can push you in the right direction, I can't make you a good writer. I can't even make you a good person. The power has to come from within you. Why do you want to be adopted, and when will you consider yourself "done"?

Here's something to do to get accustomed here. Go to VFH, read a few articles, and vote for at least one and against at least one. (Don't do it just because I told you to. Have a good reason for your votes). No one likes a vote against their article, but it's a perfectly valid thing to do, and if they can't handle a well-reasoned against vote, then screw 'em. Also, these articles and deciding for yourself what's funny and what isn't will help sharpen your humor instincts. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 21:33, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Also, never do this. Ever. Messing with someone's userpage except to add some sort of nominated template could get you banned. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 00:31, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 13:39, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

I would like an answer. If you're doing it just so you can have an extra userbox, neither of us will find this relationship very rewarding. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 04:32, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Your answer? Well, I really need a LOT of help with wiki formatting, and I really just don't cut it at all with the creative process, so all my articles, without your help, will go out the window and into a burning bottomless pit. So, that's my answer. That's why I need your help. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 05:02, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Lemme know when you've done what I've told you. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 02:15, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

I will. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 02:19, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Well, I've done all that. I could really use your help whenever possible. Thanks. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 05:31, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Also, when the process starts, please give me your graduation criteria. It would be quite helpful. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 05:36, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to interject slightly here, because that's the kind of guy I am. What Syndrome is talking about is finding that comic edge. What is it that makes something funny? Why do you laugh at a particular something? What is it that made you laugh when reading Love? Why did that tickle the funny bone? And what was it about the jokes in HowTo:Pick The Perfect Turkey that made them fall flat? What was missing from it that would have brought it to life? (You don't have to answer these questions for me, by the way. This is just rhetorical stuff about thinking critically.)

Now the other thing that you said before is what your weak points are. Which were:-

1. I really need a LOT of help with wiki formatting
2. I really just don't cut it at all with the creative process

The first is important, but it's a secondary thing to the second. The reason I'm saying that is that formatting is a very small part of creating text based comedy. The main thing you want to do is get that creative process sorted, and if you need someone to come along and do some formatting for you afterwards, just ask. The other thing you can do for formatting is what most of us do to learn it - steal it from somewhere else.

What I would suggest you do is have a look at the PEE review process. Try and analyse what you read on these 5 areas - Concept, Humour, Prose and formatting, Images, and "Miscellaneous", which I like to think of as "that indefinable quality that I can't quite pin down".

Have a read of this article. At the same time as you're reading it, try and make some notes on The following areas:

Humour:	0	Probably the most important, article-wise. How funny is it? Why is it funny? How can it be funnier? Suggestions for improvement and highlights of specific problems are very helpful.
Concept:	0	How good an idea is behind the article? Is it original with lots of potential? Could the concept be expanded and in what way?
Prose and formatting:	0	The writing style, spelling, grammar, layout and overall appearance. Is it written in an encyclopedic style? If not, are there good reasons for this? Does the voice work?
Images:	0	How are the images? Are they relevant, with good quality and formatting? If the writer has no photochopping skills, encourage the use of captions to make normal images funny.
Miscellaneous:	0	Give a score to compensate for the article's overall quality--something that can't always be assessed by the previous numbers alone.
Final Score:	0	Overall summation. How much can it be improved and what are the most important areas to work on. Try to sign off with an encouraging comment - it can help to avoid drama and encourage the author to make improvements.
Reviewer:	Please sign using the normal ~~~~

Don't worry about the scoring side of things. You just want to try and think about each of these areas.

Then, and only after you've done that, have a look at this review of it. Chief is one of the better reviewers on this site, and we're damned lucky to have him here.

Sorry - lots of work to do, but unless you can think critically about a piece of work, then you won't be able to understand why it is good, and then you won't be able to emulate it.

One last thing. I'm sure you came on here with an idea of what you wanted to write. I'm happy to do a partial collaboration with you, if it would help. Let me know what sort of thing you are thinking of writing, and I'll see what I can do to help you along the way. Pup

That's really good advice. Thanks, Puppy. (And it's true, formatting is simply a matter of finding that what you want to do has been done and copying it.) --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 13:14, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 13:47, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Mmkay.

Let's look at this a little further. You selected articles of your own accord to vote on. That's good. You voted on three articles, which shows that you weren't just looking to get it done in a hurry (although arguably I maed a yuky doody doesn't count as an article.) What were the reasons for your votes? I'm not trying to heckle you, and you have the right to vote however you want as long as it's based on the article, but I just gotta know. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 20:54, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

how old are you?

i've been meaning to ask you this question for a while now.. also, where are you from? • FreddIs Great In Bedd • • • 19:49, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Look at Syndrome's talk page. It will give you the answer. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 19:51, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Formatting

I put some formatting homework on your sandbox.

Also, do that thing that Puppy said. It will help you. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 20:40, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Hey, feel like helping Necropaxx out? I think you can handle it pretty easily. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 02:20, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

I helped him. I DONE DID IT! --Invincibleflamegruemaster 02:54, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Another thing not to do.

Don't revert admins. Ever. If you disagree with what they did, talk to them, but reverting them = ban. So many rules to keep track of, huh? It's just common sense: until you're not a "noob" and you know what's going on here, be cautious when messing with other people's stuff. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 20:47, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

I, uh... Well, I didn't know Necropaxx was an admin. If I had, I wouldn't have reverted the article. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 20:51, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Necropaxx isn't an admin. TFK is. You reverted Thekillerfroggy's edit. Careful there. ;) --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 20:55, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Won't do it again :-) --Invincibleflamegruemaster 21:00, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Hey, thanks!

Thanks for helping me out with Hippies! Here, have this:

Necropaxx has awarded you a cookie! Now go play in traffic.

I'd been wondering how to do that since I wrote it! • • • Necropaxx (T) {~} Saturday, 03:17, Nov 7 2009

You are very welcome. /me snarfs cookie --Invincibleflamegruemaster 03:20, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Nice one. Your first award, if I'm not mistaken. Feel like making an awards page? --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 18:17, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Hmm... I'll do that right away. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 20:34, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

So, you're 12?

That's kind of cute, actually.. Little kids running around on uncyclopedia, spreading their cuteness and so forth.. :) • FreddIs Great In Bedd • • • 07:50, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

May I remind you, Mahmoosh, we have a strict no making advances to the younguns policy. You have been warned. • • • Necropaxx (T) {~} Saturday, 09:47, Nov 7 2009

...Huh? • FreddIs Great In Bedd • • • 09:53, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Of course, Mahm00shA is 31. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 18:21, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

double "...Huh?" • FreddIs Great In Bedd • • • 19:39, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

I am 12, yes, but I am also adult-sized. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 20:33, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Gigantism? Or common American obesity? • FreddIs Great In Bedd • • • 03:19, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

This is normally where I would say something extremely crude, but as my twelve year old son is in the room and I wouldn't say it in front of him, I'd better not. Pup

Just growth spurts. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 03:32, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

SayitSayitSAYIT! • FreddIs Great In Bedd • • • 04:31, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Fine... When you say your twelve, are you talking about years or inches? Pup

Let's stop this line of discussion. ~ 10:19, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

I second that motion. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 15:12, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Purely rhetorical question, although part of being a man is lying about your sexual prowess - just ask any of my harem about their boastful exes. At least they are satisfied now! Pup

Wait hold on. You have a son?! SICKO! • • • Necropaxx (T) {~} Tuesday, 01:34, Nov 10 2009

I have three. I then worked out what I was doing wrong. Pup

Your award (really mine)

You found my special page. Congrats. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 21:13, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

NO STEALING OR ELSE. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 21:13, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Yo

Are you ever going to write something or am I going to have to take you behind the shed like all my other noobs? --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 06:35, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

I need help with that. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 21:40, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Start with an idea. We'll go from there. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 23:47, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Hmm... What about Pendragon? It's one of my favorite book series. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 04:17, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Haven't read it but I've heard it's good. There are a lot of good ways to write about a book series, but there are even more bad ways. What angle do you want to attack it from? You could write a piece in the style of the author, or you could write about the next book in the series that hasn't been published yet. I can't think of any good article about book series but Scrawlings of The Artist as a Young Drunk and J.D._Salinger are good articles about books or authors. You might want to read those for inspiration. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 01:29, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

I'll start a subpage for working on it. By the way, like my sig? --Invincibleflamegruemaster 01:42, Nov

Yeah, I like it. Any particular reason for the colors? Going for a rainbow? --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 07:06, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. And yes, I am going for a rainbow of colors. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 16:47, Nov

Actually, I really don't know why I'm going for a rainbow of colors in my sig. I guess it's just because I'm a colorful guy. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 16:50, Nov

Wow. You're 12, you like rainbows and you think of yourself as a "colorful guy." You should get to know Orian. • FreddIs Great In Bedd • • • 16:58, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 03:19, Nov 17 2009

be cautious when messing with other people's stuff

Like my userpage... I like how things repeat themselves so often. Too often...--Killer_3.14 21:52, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Oh well. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 21:54, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

...Weren't you banned for editing other userpages earler? --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 23:47, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah... Oops. I, uh, won't do it again. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 04:09, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Alright

Who made the first bad vote on mah poll? WHO? --Invincibleflamegruemaster 06:24, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Sir, you don't normally start new sections on your own talk page. That's like talking to yourself, which is abnormal behaviour. Which is a federal felony. • FreddIs Great In Bedd • • • 16:54, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

You're weird. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 16:55, Nov

Muhahahahaha! YES I AM! [...] So? • FreddIs Great In Bedd • • • 17:00, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

brick wall

Alright Mr. Invincibleflamegruemaster. Wasn't that article just nominated and just kicked off? Here at Uncyc, we have an unwritten rule about nominating the same article too soon. Specifically, less than 24 hours after it failed with no improvement is too soon. You will probably be banned for a short while and/or given a stern talking-to by one of the admins. Sorry you had to learn the hard way, but this is how we do it. • • • Necropaxx (T) {~} Tuesday, 03:16, Nov 17 2009

I apologize. I won't do it again. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 03:18, Nov 17 2009

I would even go so far as to suggest that 24 hours is a bit too soon. Three days' wait or a Pee Review that clearly demonstrates significant improvement would be what I would recommend for conditions for renomination. --Andorin Kato 03:19, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Dude

I really would like it if you did what POTR said above. Read this, write up a fake Pee Review of it, thinking critically and making comments about what's good and what isn't, and then compare what you've got to the real Pee Review. Can you do that? Thinking about these things really helps. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 03:22, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Humour:	8	It's a great article, but the Tricia plays an unknown song joke is too redundant. Maybe you could put a bit more variation in that one?
Concept:	10	I really like the concept. Wonderful.
Prose and formatting:	6	As for the formatting, put a little more effort in. All you're using is italics, bold, and links. Again, put more effort in.
Images:	7	I like the images that you have, but you should have more. And the images should be a little better.
Miscellaneous:	10	There's not much miscellaneous in the article, so I'm being nice. It's the way I am.
Final Score:	41	Better formatting, and more images, and this article would be perfect.
Reviewer:	--Invincibleflamegruemaster 04:03, Nov 17 2009

How about this, Syndrome? --Invincibleflamegruemaster 04:03, Nov 17 2009

Cool. You know that's not in-depth enough for a real Pee, but you did what I asked you. I'll take a better look at it and say more when I get the time. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 05:34, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Hey, good job!

You got your first real longer-than-it-takes-to-go-out-for-lunch ban! Kinda deserved it, too. Hopefully it will teach you a bit of common sense. As Oscar Wilde said, the definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. See Wikipedia:WP:SNOWBALL for more on that.

Getting banned is a time-honored tradition here at Uncyclopedia, and so is weaseling out of it. If you want to be back soon, you'll need to appeal to the admins (specifically the one that banned you) and convince them you've learned your lesson. Get on IRC and try that. Good luck finding Flammable, though. He might be hard to catch. And be warned that the admins can be hard to convince. You need to be really sincere.

That's all I'm going to say on the matter. I won't step in on your behalf. You're on your own for this one. Good luck, young padawan. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 05:43, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Speaking of getting banned

Stop messing with my comments! Really!--Killer_3.14 01:38, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

For the love of God

You just don't learn, do you? Look at this edit and tell me what's wrong with it. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 19:36, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Reverted. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 19:40, 11 26, 2009

I really have to wonder about you.

Hey, thanks for the template. I'll put it on my awards page. But I really have to wonder: Why, oh why do you keep doing things when people tell you not to? I appreciate you making the template, but you shouldn't mess with what other people make in general. When you edited the poll on my talk page, you reset the results because it's now a different poll than what people voted on. Let me put it this way: unless it's in your userspace, don't screw with it.

But I have an idea to satisfy your drive for fiddling with format. Did you see the mainpage reskin Puppy did for the Microsoft article? How would you like to do a Christmas mainspace reskin? --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 01:36, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Look

You're really starting to annoy me. If this whole ignoring-everything-as-soon-as-i-say-it act is an elaborate troll, I don't appreciate it. Please answer me: Why did you go screw with stuff in my userspace minutes after I told you not to above? --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 03:09, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Actually, at exactly the same time you said your previous comment, I was forced to play a board game. I'm sorry, but I didn't do anything to your userspace except give you that award template I made for you. I didn't do anything harmful to your userspace (you had appreciated receiving that template, judging by your comment), and I didn't ignore you, I merely was forced to do things before I could respond to your comments. I apologize for doing anything that may have caused harm. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 03:49, 11 29, 2009

Sorry, forgot about the poll. That change was caused by a comment by an acquaintance, and I didn't know that changing part of a poll would reset the poll's votes. Please forgive me. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 03:59, 11 29, 2009

I'm referring to when you edited my awards page to include a __NOTOC__. I'm not angry, I'm just perplexed as to why you would do that. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 04:25, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Well, you had put --notoc-- on there, so I thought you wanted __NOTOC__ on there, and you had made an editing mistake, so I replaced --notoc-- with __NOTOC__. I didn't know that you didn't want it there. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 04:51, 11 29, 2009

Sometimes I (and other people) will do or say things we don't mean for comedic effect. The term for this is irony. Online it's hard to tell when someone means something seriously or not because you can't read their body language or tone. Being able to detect irony and dish it out is a big part of comedy. I'm not saying that my awards page is funny, but still, what I did was for ironic effect. You can tell if I'm doing something noobish on purpose because I'll mispell mroe werds then I tipically do. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)}

...And here you fixed a link for a spambot. You're a little MadMax in training, aren't you? Fixing format is good, but all I'm asking is that you think before you fix. Don't touch intentional mistakes and don't help vandals, please. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 20:57, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Sorry. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 22:53, 11 29, 2009

Isn't this the coolest template ever?

I am

getting

dizzy!

--Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 02:07, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Tables

The answers to most of your questions can be found in the Wikipedia dox. See WP:HOWTO and WP:HOW. It can tell you more than I can.

Here's the basic breakdown of Tables:

{| starts it and |} ends it. You know that.

Right after the {| is where you put all of the header information. This is formatting stuff like what size the borders should be or what color the font should be. All the syntax you use here is really CSS, which you use by saying 'style="color:blue;" for example. It wouldn't hurt for you to learn the basics of what CSS is and how it works, but no one expects you to memorize it. I always have a reference open when I'm using it.

|- starts a new row.

| starts a new cell.

Let me say this: It's not required but it's a really good idea to start each cell on a new line when you're writing a table.

If you want to format a cell in any particular way (that will be different from the rest of the table), you put the formatting in front of the cell and separate from the cell content with a |. So if I wanted one cell in a table to be pink and the rest tomato, I would write something like this:

{| style="background:tomato;" border="0"
 |Tomato cell
 |Tomato cell
 |-
 | style="background:pink;" | Pink cell
 |Tomato cell
 |}

To get this:

Tomato cell	Tomato cell
Pink cell	Tomato cell

Or I can make the whole bottom row pink by putting the pink formatting on the row instead of the cell:

White cell	White cell
Mr. Winkler	is GAY!

That's basically how wiki tables work. If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask. Otherwise, give Help:Table a read. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 02:45, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Christmas reskin

Want to do one? --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 23:31, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

Alright, but how? --Invincibleflamegruemaster 00:50, 12 4, 2009

Read HowTo:Reskin Uncyclopedia and call me in the morning. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 01:06, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

I UNABLE UNDERSTAND!!!!!! Is there any simpler way to do this? --Invincibleflamegruemaster 01:11, 12 4, 2009

Yes. Maybe. No. Let's take this one step at a time. For a Christmas reskin, you'll need to touch up the Uncyclopedia logo and make it all Christmas-y. Do you have any photomanipulation skills? This logo has been used for Christmases past but I think we should to something different this year. Like have a Christmas tree growing out of the hole in the potato, or simply just slap a Santa hat on it. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 01:21, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Ain't much of an expert on picture manipulation, either. --Invincibleflamegruemaster 20:33, 12 4, 2009

Yeah, who cares? Try anyway. The next step is to take the code from the main page and doll it up to look all pretty. You like colors, right? I've copied the main page to User:Invincibleflamegruemaster/Christmas Reskin. Can you add some red and green, and make it look a little more festive? --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 20:47, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

How is it so far? --Invincibleflamegruemaster 21:30, 12 4, 2009

Ouch, reading against those dark colors is a little hard on the eyes. Can you brighten it up to about where it was before? Maybe leave strong borders like that, though. Something like style="border: solid 5px #ff0000;"... --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!)} 21:40, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Sure. By the way, what happened to your sig? --Invincibleflamegruemaster 21:45, 12 4, 2009