User talk:Orion Blastar/Archive2

Uncyclopedian of the Month

It is an honor to be nominated and voted on. Please post your comments below. --Lt. Orion Blastar (talk) 20:48, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

shh!

don't tell noone but i've created two sockpuppets to strike on the 31st - just pray i don't confound myself with IST's, UTC's, GMT's and DST -- mowgli 19:38, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Well you could do that but it would be wrong. :) Mowgligate is what they might call it if you get caught voting with sockpuppets. :) --Lt. Orion Blastar (talk) 20:24, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

i hate you! sockpuppets cancelled. -- mowgli 20:45, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

OK (wink) no sockpuppets on Oct 31st Halloween to vote for me. Make sure you destroy all the tapes and delete these comments before Oct 31st, that way they cannot accuse us of cheating. Make sure also that you do not use Tor to hide the IPs of the sockpuppets if you do them anyway. I want to win cleanly and fairly. By the way, I just got the bid in for Diebold voting machines to make sure (Wink) the election is fair and balanced. :) --Lt. Orion Blastar (talk) 21:40, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

If you're not cheating, you're not trying hard enough! --Eddie Guerrero (RIP) 22:16, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

¡Viva la raza! Órale holmes that was very good. Like you, I lie, I cheat, I steal! That is because I am a Pirate Ninja. Cheat to win, right? --Lt. Orion Blastar (talk) 04:18, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Re the John 3:16 stuff in the Village dump

Seeing as the dump is generally for ridicule, i thought I would respond to you here... as it happens, I am also a christian. My "nobody cares" remark was a subtle point on the fact that nobody on this site wants to be preached at (and also the fact that I don't care what is said about liberal interpretations, specifically that link). I agree with you about the peaceful aspects of what Jesus taught. Although I wouldn't go as far as comparing it to other religions, or incorporating their practices into ours (not that I'm saying you do). Thanks for being open about your faith. I am closest to fundagelical, as i said in the linked pages talk page. Nice to know I'm not alone here. -- Soul101 ~_MA^REPENT! 03:50, 17 October 2006 (PDT)

Well it is hard not to compare or find elements in Christianity that are in other religions. I find that finding things in common with other religions or philosophies helps get a better acceptance with non-Christians. My wife's family, for example, are Thai Buddhists, so I talk to them about things our religion have in common rather than try to force my beliefs on them or theirs on me. I have many non-Christian friends, and some of them that were non-Christian became Christian because I was a good Christian and set an example for them to see what a Christian is really supposed to be like. I am supposed to be a Roman Catholic, but I think with my martial arts background I am more of a Ninja Christian, and I have found that a lot of what Jesus taught (golden rule, do unto others as you would have them do unto you) are taught in Ninjitsu as well. I took a Christian Martial Arts class for a year, which combined martial arts and Christian teachings. We learned several styles of martial arts. --Lt. Orion Blastar (talk) 21:25, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Oscar Wilde Article.

I liked your suggestions at the village dump on how to improve the oscar wilde article Do you think it should be changed to soemthing like this:

The Life of Oscar Wilde:

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His Birth and Childhood:

“I was born in Dublin, because I wanted to be close to my mother.” -Oscar Wilde.

“Oscar wasn’t like the other babies, he wore a cravat. Some of the more masculine babies were rather upset by this. I suppose they thought he should be manlier and practise crying and projectile vomit. They also though he was rather queer for insisting on being bottle fed, by young student doctors.”-Sir William Wilde

“I could not help being born with impeccable taste. I rejected the society of other babies; I found them, decidedly childish.” -Oscar Wilde

“He insisited that only ‘uncouth degenerates’ drank milk and that in future he would prefer to be given a ‘snifter of port’.” -Jane Francesca, Lady Wilde

“He reduced all the other babies to state of uncontrollable wailing and dribbling with his barbed wit. None of them could string a coherent sentence together afterwards. They were like that for years.”-Mr Humphrey O’Flaherty.

“I couldn’t walk afterwards.” -Maurice Hastings.

“I had no hair left.” -Lord Grenville-Smythe

“They we’re no match for my intellect, how could they dare to challenge one who resides in the pantheon of the immortals.” -Oscar Wilde

“He didn’t seem to cry much, I suppose it must have been the opium.” -Jane Francesca, Lady Wilde

“My silence was due to my introspective mood, I was contemplating my mortality, being in mourning for the loss of my placenta.” -Oscar Wilde.

“As a child he was rather crtitcal of my dress sense insisting that I should wear ‘Something in blue satin’ to ‘bring out my eyes.” -Sir William Wilde

“ I tried to perswade him to wear a nappy, but he rejected it as a ‘Vile contrivance.Fit only for the gutter’ And remarked that my suggestion that he wear it was a ‘Purile and isolent joke, in the worst possible taste.’” -Jane Francesca, Lady Wilde

“How could one even concive of going about the town in such a garment? The foolish woman was quite wrong to offend my sesibilities, with such a barbed and callous insult.” -Oscar Wilde.

--Winstanley1 11:03, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. It does have a bit of wit and humor to it Oscar Wilde style. --Lt. Orion Blastar (talk) 12:54, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Moloch the liberal

You mentioned relating abortion with the worship of Moloch on the liberal discussion page. I’ve gone one step further and described American liberalism as a religion. Do you want to check out the American liberals page and tell me what you think? Its just a start and I hope to expand it soon. Thanks. Weri long wang 15:28, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

It is a good start. Consider adding to Holy Bible: Revised Liberal Edition and HowTo:Be a liberal. I think we need to reference Moloch in them as well. I had edit wars in those articles from liberals who were upset at the jokes. I also did God-Fearing Republicans as an article that makes fun of conservatives and others added to it as well. I\\\'ll make changes to the Moloch page to reference the American Liberals page. Thanks, good work so far. --\\\'\\\'\\\'Lt.\\\'\\\'\\\' Orion Blastar (talk) 16:22, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Response to post in Todd Lyons talk page

I felt it would be better to respond here rather than add to the other page.

• Look here I suffer from several mental illnesses and I have been made fun of and I am disabled. I don`t go around shooting people because someone made fun of my illness. I am one of the people that could have Aspergers because I have problems relating to people socially and my schzioaffective disorder could have been misdiagnosed.

Whilst I can`t comment without actually knowing you - if you can take destructive criticism, then you aren`t an Aspie. That`s the first point.

What makes you an expert on what an Aspie is or isn\\\'t? You hold a PHD or something? You said yourself it is a new illness and it is still being researched, so how can you know 100% what an Aspie is or is not or how they will react? If being an Aspie means that you do not know the difference between right and wrong and that he didn\\\'t know that shooting 35 random people was wrong. Yet I doubt it as you claim to be an Aspie and know the difference between a right and wrong type of humor article, and have said what others did to your contribtions was wrong. Like me, you seem to be able to tell what is a joke here and what is funny and not funny, and if you are an Aspie with those abilities then so possibly am I. I have few friends in real life, and I get made fun of and picked on a lot in real life and from former employers and coworkers. I don\\\'t do well in society and I am a geek and nerd and got into math and science and computers. --\\\'\\\'\\\'Lt.\\\'\\\'\\\' Orion Blastar (talk) 19:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

At present, the best experts on AS are those actually experience it - as I do. Because there are quacks around who use the bad parenting excuse and so on and support the notion that AS is essentially a myth. They aren`t there - experiencing what AS is. Having such experience is equal to having a PHD per se. Through my own research I have met many Aspies - some good some bad. The assertion that an Aspie doesn`t know the difference between right and wrong is subjective because it entirely depends on life experience and upbringing. Aspies are reliant on it. If right and wrong is made a part of an Aspie`s structure, we do. But at the same time it can be confused - for example if something is seen as the Aspie to be wrong and yet a bunch of fools state it`s actually right it confuses the Aspie. That confusion is stressful and dangerous. There are a number of social issues outside the Autistic Spectrum that cause social withdrawal BTW so just because you have few friends doesn\\\'t automatically make you an Aspie. 69.46.23.138 00:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry life experience does not equal a PHD, if it did I\'ve have several of those. Through my own research for the past thrity years in mental illnesses and disabilities, violence is rare and often due to not understanding the difference between right and wrong. A person with a mental illness or disability can go on a shooting rampage only if they have decided to, and they do know that it is wrong and do it anyway. If I am not an Aspie, I have many symptoms that Aspies suffer from. Those with PHDs who I consulted with, strongly disagree with you that an Aspie will go on a shooting rampage for having their syndrome made fun of, and if they did it would be due to other factors not releated to the syndrome. --\'\'\'Lt.\'\'\' Orion Blastar (talk) 22:16, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Life experience of an Aspie at the present time is as close to a PHD as anyone is going to get. Those with PHD`s in whatever field are still learning about Aspergers - therefore those with actual experience are the better judges. For example - how easy is it for you to get confused? What is the structure of your life - are you in need of a routine? Do you shun affection? What symptoms do you have that you claim are Aspergers? And do NOT just shunt off the view that AS was the root cause of Bryant\'s rampage. You are generalising to make a cheap point and I suggest you stop doing that. 69.46.23.138 23:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

What part of me being on disability didn't you understand? I am confused as to how you can claim to be an expert. Just use google for Orion Blastar some time and see all of the stuff that happened to me on forums and stuff due to my Aspie type symptoms. See how I react to people teasing me, and calling me names, see how it drove me to attempting suicide. See how I am not connecting with people socially, and not picking up on clues people are giving me. See them call me an idiot for not picking up on social clues. See how unorganized I am, how I get confused with what people are saying and have reading compehension in the fourms. See how I am not going after affection. If anyone is generalizing a cheap point it is you, and not me. I was diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome in 2000, and later had it changed to Schizoaffective Disorder, but that could have been a misdiagnoses. I have been in and out of mental hospitals and met people will all kinds of syndromes and mental illnesses. --Lt. Orion Blastar (talk) 00:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

• I find it offensive that your comments said that all mentally ill and all mentally disabled people are violent and have hair triggers and will go off and shoot 35 random people just because they got made fun of.

I never said everyone is violent and so forth. My point is that the POTENTIAL is there - as Port Arthur proves.

But not for everyone, maybe some isolated cases. Bill Gates is an aspie and gets made fun of a lot on the Internet, and he does not go on a shooting rampage. Besides the guy who did the shooting was examined and was not an Aspie and was found to be legally sane. Just a theory, but no solid proof that he was an Aspie. People who said Asperger\\\'s Syndrome caused the shootings are doing a new witch hunt against Aspies of which you are a part of it. --\\\'\\\'\\\'Lt.\\\'\\\'\\\' Orion Blastar (talk) 19:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

The truth is everything about him is speculation, because Bryant isn`t talking. Not even to his own mother. That`s because no one is giving him a direction he can comprehend or accept. That has nothing to do with any sanity level so that argument is actually irrelevant. Everything that I\\\'ve seen and heard of him reeks of AS. Now I did NOT say AS caused the shootings. What caused the shootings was the lack of help and understanding of his predicament as a person. And I am of the firm belief that As was simply one issue of several. It did contribute to his thought patterns - which ultimately led to the decision he made out of sheer desperation. It was the wrong decision of course, but with an IQ of 66 and zero guidance which he should have had, the violence was never predicted as it should have been. 69.46.23.138 00:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

A court and Medical and Psychological experts found he did not even have the syndrome and that he is sane and knows the difference between right and wrong. That he was even laughing in court and in jail, he must have found something funny, which proves that he is not an Aspie by your definition. Face the facts, there is no proof that he is an Aspie, but there is proof that he is not one. Your whole argument was based behind him being an Aspie, but it was found out that he wasn\'t and it was an excuse used to try to find him not guilty by his lawyer, which didn\'t work because he does not have the syndrome. --

\'\'\'Lt.\'\'\' Orion Blastar (talk) 22:16, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Excuse me? I never said Aspies do not have a sense of humour full stop. I`ll tell you what he found funny. A big fuss was being made over something that he saw as nothing. That in fact proves that he did NOT know the difference between right and wrong. The AS diagnosis came AFTER the court hearing BTW - along with a number of other issues. That debunks any assertion that he was sane as such - and no one has been able to confirm any of this because Bryant has since gone into his shell. A typical Aspie reaction to not understanding. 69.46.23.138 23:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

You are speculating, he could have well been laughing that he got away with murdering 35 people in cold blood and gave AS as an excuse to get a reduced sentence, and that is a slap in the face of people who have AS for real. Read or watch "One flew over the Cuckoo's Nest" to see how common it is to fake a mental illness or syndrome in order to get out of jail or get a reduced sentence. --Lt. Orion Blastar (talk) 00:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

• You talk about freedom of speech, but when you blanked the article you took away the freedom of speech of those who worked hard on the article and the admins had to put it back in.

Freedom of speech can be abused, and that`s what the AS article is doing - abusing that right. The lack of accountability being shown in that vein removes the right to freedom of speech.

Maybe in China or North Korea, but the same argument can be made for liberals in the USA who abuse their freedom of speech, but we don\\\'t censor them for it. What you want is accountability and responsibility for one\\\'s behaviors and actions. --\\\'\\\'\\\'Lt.\\\'\\\'\\\' Orion Blastar (talk) 19:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Those idiot liberals should be censored in my view because they create hate and don`t give a stuff about the consequences. If they gave a stuff they`d be more moderate in expressing their views. That last sentence though is correct - and Uncyclopedia (if the AS article is anything to go by) doesn`t hold to that rule. 69.46.23.138 00:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Post about it on the Village Dump then and see if anyone agrees with you. We have a Forum here for such things. --\'\'\'Lt.\'\'\' Orion Blastar (talk) 22:16, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I won\'t bother because I`m willing to bet you Yanks will demand it as the first amendment, and in the process (again) abuse the heck out of it. 69.46.23.138 23:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Feh! Todd is a Canadian, Mhaille is from the UK, we are not all Yanks here. Uncyclopedia has people from all over the world. You are only using that as an excuse to manipulate me into deleting the article for you, because you refuse to take any alternatives. I know all about manipulations as I have been manipulated by people my entire life. I know bullshit when I read it as well. --Lt. Orion Blastar (talk) 00:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

• Joking about my illness and disability helps me cope with it better.

Doesn`t help me or any other Aspie who is struggling to cope. That`s another point that needs to be noted.

Did you go on a shooting rampage because of it? I think not, because you are not in jail. More proof that not all Aspies will react the way you think they will. --\\\'\\\'\\\'Lt.\\\'\\\'\\\' Orion Blastar (talk) 19:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

In Australia now it`s not possible because of the gun laws that Bryant caused. But I have reacted in a violent way when I was pushed into a corner psychologically and not respected. And I was punished for it. Whilst the physical act was wrong - the act that caused it is still the source of some confusion for me which is the whole threat. And I know of several other instances similar and worse to my own - all because of the attitude that is shown in the AS article here. 69.46.23.138 00:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Didn\'t anyone ever teach you to be responsible for your own actions and behavior and to ignore those who cause confusion and negativity towards you? Most parents teach their children that when they are three. People will disrespect you in every walk of life, I\'ve been disrespected all of my life and made fun of. I got into fights over it, but yes I learned to not to let it get to me. That if someone causes confusion to ignore them. My illness creates stress and confusion when I am attacked psychologically, and dealing with your attacks on me, Uncyclopedia, etc makes it harder for me to cope, but I am managing. It is far easier to make a change to yourself, than it is to change society and other people. That is because you cannot change other people unless they want to change. If you had a real PHD in Psychology, you\'d know that, but since you don\'t it shows how ignorant you are on the subject of mental illnesses and disabilities. All of which means you have no right or authority to even discuss the subjects. --\'\'\'Lt.\'\'\' Orion Blastar (talk) 22:16, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Again, you have no idea. I was pushed into a corner where I could NOT ignore the confusion or negativity. They were putting it over as a positive, but I say it as a negative and they flatly refused to see that what they were doing was upsetting and angering me. I was trapped - pure and simple. Another point, most people with PHD`s actually DO expect Aspies to change because they don\'t know enough about it, so that remark is completely wrong. To an Aspie - change is alien. If in fact they did what you suggested they were doing, we probably wouldn`t even be having this argument because the article this is all about would have been deleted long ago. 69.46.23.138 23:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

But you are capable of change, you were doing threats, but you changed to rational discussions and logic. Something you now claim your AS makes it impossible to do. I told you I know bullshit when I hear it. --Lt. Orion Blastar (talk) 00:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

• It is not my fault that you suffer from psychophobia and have a grudge against the mentally ill because of one bad example.

You are the one suffering from it - not me - because part of the symptoms show themselves by making fun of it. The lack of understanding, and the refusal to try and the cop out to `I don`t understand - therefore you`re nuts`. That is a symptom of psychophobia.

There is more to it than that, it is a fear of the mentally ill or the mind or other minds. You have a fear that people who are Aspies will go on shooting rampages because of an article that is a joke. I have no such fear of you or any Aspie or any mentally ill person or mind. Phobia means fear, and I do not have such a fear. --\\\'\\\'\\\'Lt.\\\'\\\'\\\' Orion Blastar (talk) 19:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

No I do not. What I fear is attitudes like this leading to people who are in power seeing seeing that AS is not worth assisting because it`s nothing more than a joke. It is no joke. It`s a bloody serious condition that demands respect, and articles like this represent a setback to all the effort that people like myself are making to get a decent and full life. That is my fear - not getting the full and decent life every human being deserves. The violence threat only comes up as a consequence for those who are capable of doing so - and on a number of different levels ranging from mostly simple assault to the odd more violent reaction (such as Port Arthur). Instead of making fun of this condition you should be seeking to understand it more and helping us. 69.46.23.138 00:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I never got a full and decent life that every human being deserves either. I am on disability and I have to put up with assholes like you who think they are above the law and rules and better than everyone else and have an ego that makes them think that they are 100% right and everyone else is 100% wrong. I get stress put on me by people like you, and it makes me physically and mentally ill, until I am unable to work anymore for a living. If you are really that bad and threaten violence, you need to be in a mental hospital before you hurt anyone or yourself. In which case I suggest that you seek out professional help. I cannot help you when you say you refuse to change, I am trying to help you to bring this conversation to a more reasonable and logical one, rather than the one that was on Todd Lyon\'s talk page. AS is worth assisting and helping, I agree. Any mental illness or disability is worth helping and assisting. When you make threats and talk about having a past history of violence, it makes it harder to help and assist you. I am trying, but you don\'t seem to want to accept reality or the facts I cited that show you could be wrong or even decide to at least read the rules here and follow them. If you are that far gone, you don\'t need to be on the Internet, you need to be in a hospital instead where you can be helped and assisted by professionals. --\'\'\'Lt.\'\'\' Orion Blastar (talk) 22:16, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I am not that far gone, but I am close. And for your information, my local government won`t help, because they regard AS is insignificant (which offends the crap out of me and I would hope you agree). You see, this is what happens indirectly when articles like the one here have the effect it does. Government`s start treating it as a joke because the world is doing the same. I am trying to change that because of the threat it poses. I am sick and tired of this and I am doing everything I can that is legal to change it. The article here is not helping that battle, it is hindering it. Hence my gut reaction to it. 69.46.23.138 23:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I do agree that governments should help those with mental illnesses and syndromes and disabilities. My local government hasn't helped me any, save putting me on disability because I can no longer work. At least I have disability. Did you know that every Halloween there are people who dress up to look like mentally ill people with knives and guns that try to scare people and promote a negative image of the mentally ill? Why don't you try to fight that image as well as articles that make fun of the mentally ill? Look, I don't like mental illnesses being made fun of either, but in making fun of mine I got attention drawn to it and at least some people were able to understand that having a mental illness is no laughing matter when it really happens to people because I was forced on diability and have had a rough life with very few friends and no social status or respect in my life. The way you are going about it, using negatism, is actually hurting the cause of mental illnesses, because you are making yourself look like an asshole who does not obey the rules and law and harasses people or draws them into flamewars over it. Do you see how negatism is not really helping your cause? --Lt. Orion Blastar (talk) 00:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

• Yes I traced that one IP to you, the edits match and slashes were used just like with all of your IPs. You are the only user here who has that problem, I can do a Whois of all your IPs, and the admins can send in abuse reports for every IP you use, and eventually every system you are using can have the Internet access disabled on them for ToS violations.

The IP you traced was a proxy - nice try!

The IP belongs to an ISP with a policy of not using those IP blocks as proxies, which is a violation of the ToS to use their IP as a proxy. --\\\'\\\'\\\'Lt.\\\'\\\'\\\' Orion Blastar (talk) 19:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I checked - there is no such item in the TOS of the ISP you are talking about.

to alter, steal, corrupt, disable, destroy, trespass or violate any security or encryption of any computer file, database or network;

This is a network, with a database, and files, which you altered, destroyed, and you were told to go away and you trespassed.

Customer further agrees that it shall not, nor shall it permit others to

  1. alter, tamper with, adjust, repair or circumvent any aspect of the Services; or

2. resell, pass-through, sublicense, rent, lease, timeshare or rebrand the Services or otherwise provide the Services to any party not within Customer’s enterprise and related personnel. You said you use the IP as a proxy, but Internap says they do not allow Proxies to personnel outside of their network. You claimed you are outside of their network using a proxy, and the proxy goes to one of their IPs that they claim is a violation of their ToS to be used as a proxy. Don't try to bullshit me, I used to work with lawyers. --Lt. Orion Blastar (talk) 00:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

• The Columbine shooters where teased and called gays by a bunch of jocks and preps, so do we take away the articles making fun of homosexuals..

I haven`t seen those articles so I don`t know for sure. But if the articles are in any way homophobic then yes, they should be removed.

We had this discussion with those articles before and had a VFD about them or a rewrite. --\\\'\\\'\\\'Lt.\\\'\\\'\\\' Orion Blastar (talk) 19:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

We did???? 69.46.23.138 00:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

We(Uncyclopedia) did if you search the VFD archives. Yes, shock and awe, the VFD system actually works! --\'\'\'Lt.\'\'\' Orion Blastar (talk) 22:16, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

As long as you decide to control the morons who insist on making a joke out of a serious subject (which in the case I am referring to you didn`t). And preventing vote stacking (do you have a policy on that identical to the one on Wikipedia?). 69.46.23.138 23:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I think there is a rule against voting with Sockpuppets (Vote stacking), and I did see Admins take action against those who tried to make a mockery of the votes for deletion. --Lt. Orion Blastar (talk) 00:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

• ..or ban the video games like Doom and Quake that they used which inspired them to work out a plan to shoot up their high school?

There`s no solid proof of the that, and anyone with a shred of intelligence would know this.

Ask Jack Thompson about that sometime, he\\\'d disagree. There is no solid proof that an Aspie will go on a shooting rampage because of the Uncyclopedia article either, and the one who did might have had some other problem that caused the shooting rampage like being a Sociopath or a Major Mood Disorder. This article says that the Asperger\\\'s Syndrome was not the cause of such shootings. --\\\'\\\'\\\'Lt.\\\'\\\'\\\' Orion Blastar (talk)

Jack Thompson is a bleeding heart liberal who does not have my respect for a start. See above for the explanation behind the rest of that remark.

Yet Jack Thompson and you both blame things that are not actually to blame for the incidents, like video games, jokes, Uncyclopedia articles. My point was that the jokes and video games did not pull the triggers or set off the bombs at Columbine. Which apparently you agree with. If so, then logically you should agree that an Uncyclopedia article which is clearly marked as a joke, should not pull the trigger on a shooting rampage. --\'\'\'Lt.\'\'\' Orion Blastar (talk) 22:16, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Honestly, there you go again - dragging together a view that doesn\'t equate with reality! The article here could be the final trigger - when the gun is already cocked and ready to go (ie it\'s the straw that broke the camel\'s back). There is no way it can cause such a reaction by itself - unless the Aspie is incredibly sensitive (and they do exist) and has a history of physical violence (usually because they have ADHD as well as Aspergers). But if the Aspie has a history of being ridiculed and has been unable to find the niche he or she needs to protect themselves, that increases the threat. As far as Jack Thompson\'s view of those video games being solely responsible for violence - that\'s the same thing. He\'s doing the same thing YOU are doing - claiming a direct single reaction to one thing. The base has to be there first. 69.46.23.138 23:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

If that is the cause, the Aspie should not even be on the Internet or in the Public but in a hospital until he/she can resolve the physical violence being used as a reaction to jokes and other things. The Internet is full of people who will joke about the Aspie on forums, do you want to shut down those forums as well? I know because I was made fun of and it drove me to suicide and I ended up in a hospital. What I had to do was stay off the Internet for a while until I learned how to cope with it better and change my reaction to it. If an Aspie cannot change their reaction to jokes and teasings, then they need to be in an institution or hospital until they get the help they need to learn to react to it in a non-violent way. --Lt. Orion Blastar (talk) 00:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

• Your current IP goes to Internap read the ToS many ISPs have such agreements. They have a log of your real IP if you are hiding behind one of their IPs. You are not as anonymous on the Internet as you think you are.

It won`t help, because most ISP`s need proof far stronger than anything I`ve provided. Uncyclopedia is in much more danger of action than I am.

Wikia hosts Uncyclopedia and have an army of lawyers who would disagree with you. There is a ToS here and you broke it many times gving them the right to boot you out and ban you. The ToS here is a legal contract that you broke and are liable to be sued over. Now we can reason these issues out and not even get into court. I\\\'d like to see that myself personally. --\\\'\\\'\\\'Lt.\\\'\\\'\\\' Orion Blastar (talk) 19:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I don\\\'t think Wikia would be very impressed with the lack of respect Uncyclopedia is giving AS with this article, and the refusal to see the danger it poses. The TOS here will not stand up because you allow editing without an account - something that Encyclopedia Dramatica actually has over you (and it pains me to give that waste of webspace any credit). 69.46.23.138 00:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Then contact Wikia and see what they think. Email them the link to the Aspie article and see if they will take action to remove it. That sounds a lot better than blanking and vandalizing it and making threats to people on Uncyclopedia, now doesn\'t it? --\'\'\'Lt.\'\'\' Orion Blastar (talk) 22:16, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

That is exactly what I am going to do, and because I can easily contact one of the owners directly. And not by email either. 69.46.23.138 23:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Please do so and let me know what they say. I would like to know what we can and cannot joke about here. So far it has been anything goes with few expections. --Lt. Orion Blastar (talk) 00:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

• By the way check out our Allah and Mohammed articles and see why there aren`t any Radical Islamic Protestors burning Uncyclopedia flags.

That`s because as far as those extremists are concerned, dealing with the USA and the western world as a whole will deal with the problem 100 percent.

Uncyclopedia is global, not western, so your logic fails. --\\\'\\\'\\\'Lt.\\\'\\\'\\\' Orion Blastar (talk) 19:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

You completely missed my point. If the extremists get their way, global will equal not western. That is what they want and disposing of all western material from the Internet will achieve this aim. The way to do that is to wipe the western world out. 69.46.23.138 00:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Most Islamics are moderates, the extremists seem to be in the minority. Like the liberals in the west, the extremists in the middle-east are a minority but speak with the loudest voices. Global does not equal western anyway, Uncyclopedia has been translated into many languages East and West and Middle-East. We even had some Muslims join as members here. Where are you from, by the way? --\'\'\'Lt.\'\'\' Orion Blastar (talk) 22:16, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Yet again - you missed my point. If the extremists have their way, there will be NO western world. We would all be Muslims and not speak English and have no right to speak our minds - hence global won`t equal western. Right now (in the eyes of the extremists) global does equal western. We both know that`s wrong but that`s the way those idiots think. Now do you get my point? As far as location goes - I`ll reveal that when I`m ready to (see above for why). 69.46.23.138 23:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

The extremists will not have their way, there are too many moderates and traditionals to stop them. If they did, the moderates and traditionals would have joined with the extremists to create an army of 3 billion angry muslims to recreate the Persian Empire and try to take over the world and force everyone into Islam. Yes extremists are idiots, and they are dropping like flies in Iraq and Afghanistan and other parts of the world where their terrorist ways are being fought. --Lt. Orion Blastar (talk) 00:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

• If you find the article unfunny or in bad taste, let me introduce you to a policy here. It is called Vote for Deletion. Vfd is the shortcut to the page. Just place the article`s name and link in the Vfd page and a description as to why you think it should be deleted and add the tag:

{{VFD}}

• to the page you added to the VFD page and other members can vote on if it should be deleted or kept. We are a Democracy here, and we vote on which pages get deleted. If you make a good reasonable and logical argument as to why it should be deleted, and enough members agree with you, then it will get deleted.

I know through experience that this method is a sham - which is why I didn`t bother.

It is not a sham, I\\\'ve gotten articles deleted that way myself. Did you even bother to try at least? --\\\'\\\'\\\'Lt.\\\'\\\'\\\' Orion Blastar (talk) 19:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I have seen the sham at work. If anyone puts in a VFD trying to be serious it gets laughing right off the page by everyone who doesn\\\'t know how to be serious. I saw no attempt to mediate that, and anyone who tried was told to go to Wikipedia and get a proverbial funny bone. Whether or not it was by any sysop here I don`t know because I didn\\\'t look. This was some time ago I will admit. But I haven`t seen any rule changes since then so there is no guarentee against a repeat performance. 69.46.23.138 00:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

But fact is you did not put it up for VFD. Many of my articles got put up for VFD and got deleted. While I disagree with getting my articles deleted, I was outvoted and so I have to accept it. A Democracy is flawed in that the majority makes the decisions and elects their favorites to run the government. Sometimes minorities don\'t get their ways as a result. We vote for Admins here too. I was asked to run for Admin, but I turned it down. I am an Officer Instead and I write articles and revert vandalism and blankings, and I try to help the new users become good Uncyclopedians by offering them help, assistance, and advice. Which is why I was nominated for Uncyclopedian of the Month for October. --\'\'\'Lt.\'\'\' Orion Blastar (talk) 22:16, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Well then if you have that much influence and respect maybe you should speak on my behalf. But of course you won`t because you (like everyone else on that VFD I\'ve been talking about) don`t believe there is a serious problem here. Hence the view I have that any VFD I submit will be laughed right out of this place. Therein lies the very problem I`ve been talking about. Not just with VFD, but with the whole issue of this article being dangerous. 69.46.23.138 23:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I am calling your bluff Forum:Asperger Syndrome is no laughing matter read this forum post and we shall see what others think. Please feel free to write in your own comments. I am using what influence and respect I gained here for your cause, and I am putting my reputation on the line for you. That is only because I suffer from several mental illnesses, and I want to see this issue delt with, and with fairness. --Lt. Orion Blastar (talk) 00:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

• Blanking, vandalizing, and giving Lip to the Admins about it when they call you on it are against our rules and laws here.

So? There`s nothing against it in any of the TOS`s of the proxies I`ve been using - or even my own ISP for that matter.

Yes there is, you are harassing admins and other people, and engaging in vandalization, and using fear in terrorist-like acts. Any ISP with no ToS about that, is just asking to be sued by those who they allow their users to harass. --\\\'\\\'\\\'Lt.\\\'\\\'\\\' Orion Blastar (talk) 19:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Vandalisation is NOT against the proxies TOS or my own - unless it breaks another aspect (such as porn for example). The issue of harassment is subjective because it entirely depends on the content. I have not been overtly abusive and nothing else I have said constitutes basic harassment as interpreted by any ISP I know of. Flaming is not against those TOS`s for example. 69.46.23.138 00:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Flaming is harassment, didn\'t you know that? --

\'\'\'Lt.\'\'\' Orion Blastar (talk) 22:16, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

No it`s not, unless the content is abusive. It is possible to flame without harassing. Like I said - it`s subjective. 69.46.23.138 23:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

From what I read it was pretty abusive. But I will drop it for now. Let's discuss this on the forum. --Lt. Orion Blastar (talk) 00:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

• Look, maybe you have a point, but you can follow our laws and rules here and still make your point. Post your arguments on the Aspie talk page, and if you feel like it add the article to VFD and explain why it should be deleted. Sound fair enough?

The Aspie talk page has been locked for a start (last time I checked), and I`ve already explained my lack of faith in the VFD system. The only way to put a stop to this is to go over your head as I have previously stated - unless you just remove the article of your own volition. 69.46.23.138 11:04, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

So you resort to terrorist tactics to get the article removed, instead of following the rules and law? What you are doing is flying planes into our articles here at Uncyclopedia, and that is an act of war. --\\\'\\\'\\\'Lt.\\\'\\\'\\\' Orion Blastar (talk) 19:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Well? What did you expect? For me to just go away and leave this dangerous aticle alone? Terrorism occurs when someone isn`t listened to and bullied out (as was the case when my root IP was blocked) when the situation calls for an open ear and a closed mouth so to speak. It is only an act of war because you were the ones who declared it to begin with - not me. 69.46.23.138 00:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm, you attack an article, vandalize and blank it, which is the Wiki equlvelent of flying a plane into an article, and then you get banned for that, and you claim we started the war on you first by banning you? Does your AS cause you to not get the timing of events correct? That is like saying that Osama bin Laden flew planes into the WTC because George W. Bush invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. Or that Harry S. Truman dropped hydrogen bombs on Japan, and started World War II. --\'\'\'Lt.\'\'\' Orion Blastar (talk) 22:16, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

You obviously aren`t aware of the first ban, which was before my first alteration to the Aspie page. 69.46.23.138 23:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Apparently so, it is hard to tell one anonymous IP from another, the first IP I idetnified as yours was blanking and vandalizing the page. --Lt. Orion Blastar (talk) 00:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

PS What is with these slashes? I had to edit my post and replace them with the reverse apostrophe! What the heck is going on? Unless the proxy has something to do with it! 69.46.23.138 11:04, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Check your browser and any plugins or extensions, some Javascript you have is using some sort of encoding script to turn single quotes into a slash quote. I can try to help you if you post your OS, browser, and any plugins or extensions you are using. I can only test out Windows XP and Linux browsers. Yes Proxies sometimes do formatting to filter out bad words and other things. --\\\'\\\'\\\'Lt.\\\'\\\'\\\' Orion Blastar (talk) 19:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

It`s probably the proxy then - and I can\\\'t do much about that as long as my root IP remains banned. 69.46.23.138 00:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

It is possible to get unbanned if you follow the rules and laws here, and apologize, and agree to resolve issues by rationally and logically discussing them on the Forum, you just explain to everyone else what you explained to me. See if some Admin can unban you and do something about the AS article if they happen to agree with you. --\'\'\'Lt.\'\'\' Orion Blastar (talk) 22:16, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

IP\'s that are wrongly identified as proxies never get unbanned no matter what happens. Now if I had an account that would be different, but I don`t and never did. 69.46.23.138 23:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Would you like to register an account? You don't even need to give an email address or a real name. I am writing about this on the forum, in hopes that others can help out. Let us see if we can work something out here. --Lt. Orion Blastar (talk) 00:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)