Talk:Mohandas Gandhi
Large portions of this article are lacking in funny. The page needs more funny and less stupid! I'm surprised to see nobody has even said anything about it. --68.192.203.25 00:29, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Frankly, this article isn't even funny and looks like vandalism.
Someone has done something about it. --Ryuken 17:19, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- Who is adding gibberish? It's fucking annoying. --Ryuken 03:36, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
i think this page is funni it makes ur home work mre interesting lol :)
The first caption makes me think 'gangsta rapper'. But then I am a pervert.
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Add pics of Gandiji here, and some rice, if you have extra rice. Aleister 17:26 28-1-'12
- Hea Aleister. Cool. I fancy editing this one a bit at some point. I thought that the lights at the top were not worth it as the text above was not good enough to justify the different format so I worked it a bit differently, but change it all back to how it was if you have a plan for it. Looks like you want to make some more edits to this, so I will leave it alone for a while, let me know if you would like me to edit it again later. MrN 23:29, Feb 7
- Note on your talk page too. Nice! It would be fun to collab on a rewrite. Like you I came upon this pile of Indian cow-dung at some point, and started in editing it. In researching Gandhi it seems he didn't do as many movements as I thought he did, and wanted to reflect that in the page. I picked up a good DVD copy of the Gandhi film yesterday, for more research. I guess I love the start and the Christmas lights, they just fit somehow. Hyperbole recently edited some stuff into the top intro (I guess there are two intros, which seem to work, to me at least). I'll edit the opening pic, per talk page stuff. Gandhiji. Aleister 23:35 7-2-'12
- Cool. Yea, there are two different versions of the story of the man I understand. I will leave ya to it for a bit then, and take a look again later. I always assumed that he was knocking off mother Teresa when I was a kid... MrN 23:41, Feb 7
- Knocking up Mother Teresa? As I think I know, Gandhi was just a guy who got the brave gene after reading Tolstoy's "The Kingdom of God is Within You". That book kind of rescued Jesus' words from the sermon on the mound and made them real again (the words had to be dusted so the history of the catholics and christianity wasn't lingering), and found action in the words. He started to experiment (his main book was actually named "My Experiments with Truth" of something). He said at one point that the main use of his teachings would come from the American "negro", who would perfect them further, hence King, Parks, Bevel and the rest. Gandhi himself had personal drawbacks, as those other guys did and do, and was a major dick to his wife and not always in a good way. He seems to have had a huge temper, which he could control and flow (Bevel apparantly had the same). Yet his actions and writings were where his contributions came from, and he knew that he was nothing special, just a guy experimenting with Tolstoy's and Jesus' information. He disliked the honoring and hoopla, and all that Mahatma business. Or so I thnk I know. I'll get back to the page soon, not much today but later. Whew, I didn't know I'd be so long winded (takes break for more wind). Enjoy. Aleister 00:15 8-2-'12
- Not being a Christian myself, from what I can tell Jesus, Vishnu, Buddha, Mithra, Tammuz and loads of other gods are all copying their information from the same place which would be the oldest texts which talk about the same stuff. A lot of what Gandhi was going on about was based in the Vedic texts IMO. The Egyptians copied that, and the bible copied them. To be fair to Gandhi the Vedas did come out of India, so it's not really like he is nicking all his stuff from abroad. As per Mother Teresa and her relationship with Gandhi I do think it likely that yes. He was indeed knocking up mother Teresa. I mean who would not given the opportunity. I do think that Gandhi was controlled to some extent by the west, and he was just a man. I'm not sure what you mean about his use of the word "negro", personally I see nothing wrong with the word used in the way I thought he did. Anyway, I thought that nigger thing was the pope. MrN 00:48, Feb 8
- Totally agree about the vedas and the gita and other Indian holy/knowledge books. But Gandhi did actually credit Tolstoy's book with kick-starting his stuff. The prophets (i.e. guys) all built on each other and wrote down what worked and what didn't. When Jesus or whoever edited the bible summarized it quite well in the sermon on the mount, it resonated in the west, only it took about 2000 years to get the christian structure removed from it. His quote about the negroes was his word, and he should have been chastized for not using the term African-American, what a crazy man. Aleister 1:01 8-2-'12
- I'm reading about Tolstoy now. This you might find interesting if you have not looked at it already. RE the Negro thing... I saw it as like how people here in the UK use "coloured" when they mean African. It's not racist, just not informed about how people like words to be used. The word Negro is not racist IMO. As Per WP "The word negro means 'black' in Spanish and Portuguese, from the Latin niger, 'black', probably from a Proto-Indo-European root *nekw-, 'to be dark', akin to *nokw- 'night". I think 'Nigger' was first used to to refer to captured African slaves in America by a Spanish dude, so that's probably not right to use, but anyway... If you are suggesting that he was racist then I clearly have a lot to learn about the guy! MrN 01:52, Feb 8
- What? No, I was joking. More of a commentary on how words for blacks have evolved since Gandhi's or King's time, so now what they called them is offensive to some of the black guys themselves. You've educated me on language and history though, which is informative. I've done some more research on Gandhi's influences, and I didn't know about John Ruskin and his pamphlet that Gandhi was impressed with as he started his South African movements. I'll look at your links now, thanks. You and I are learning more about Gandhi and this other stuff, and soon we will free the French women from their oppressive lifestyle of wine and cheese. Aleister 12:07 8-2-'12
- p.s. Ah, I've never read the Nicaea article, and have wanted to know more about it. I see they outlawed self-castration - Now you tell me!
- I think there was a religious group around back then who were advocating cutting everyone's cocks off. The Romans did lots of things at Nicaea, and who knows what the truth of it all is. Stopping people cutting their cocks off has got to be one of the better things to come out of it. The conversion between the worship of Mithra (the main Roman dude at the time) and Christianity from what I can tell is basically what the whole thing was about. The bank of England is built on the site of the old Mithra temple in London. Tolstoy on Shakespeare made me giggle. He really does not like the dude! ""I remember the astonishment I felt when I first read Shakespeare. I expected to receive a powerful aesthetic pleasure, but having read, one after the other, works regarded as his best: "King Lear", "Romeo and Juliet", "Hamlet" and "Macbeth," not only did I feel no delight, but I felt an irresistible repulsion and tedium...". He goes on:..." -- "Hea Man. I wrote war and peace Hamlet is shit." MrN 12:52, Feb 8
- An honest man about Shakespeare. William would have been on uncy if he were writing today, he was a very good satirist. And Mithra, about a month ago two users were rewriting that article and spent hundreds of hours on it (or so it seemed), trying to get misinfo into the Mithra=Christianity story -- although it's probably feature worthy. I didn't know about the Bank of England thing, is that in the City of London or just London? I know catholics loved to put their buildings on holy pagan and other religious sites, and did so regularly (like power mad squirrels taking over the nests of eagles). I love Tolstoy's real name, and put it in the article here. His wikipedia page you linked has his autograph on it, and that's some signature! War and Peace, whoo whoo. Aleister 16:32 8-2-'12
- Well, the roman leadership became the Roman Catholic church, and the Emperor became the pope when Rome fell apart. That much I think is rather true. Personally I find it fascinating looking through all the missinfo about the past. The most interesting part is when you see who is doing what, when and try to figure out why. Faith is a position for which I have a lot of respect. Anyway, I should really edit this article a bit. That pic of golem looks bad as the opening picture for this article, but it's all good... MrN 16:56, Feb 8
- Ah, just when I had the page doing well - in my own mind. I try to polish and sculpt every word, but then another guy comes along with a chisel. Collabs eventually leave everyone happy though. I do like the Golem pic, it seems to be made to be Gandhi-in-satire. To make it more Gandhi I put the caption "all rights reserved" thing. Faith works, and has a power that changes societies when done well. Same thoughts about Rome and the structure, I guess that is common knowledge, except to most Catholics who still think it's the real deal. I will research that temple thing, intriquing, thanks for the data! Alkster 17:03
- p.s. Seems the Mithra ruins are still there in the City of London, and the bank moved its building. Scat, bank, scat!
- "The Bank's original home was in Walbrook in the City of London, where during the building's reconstruction in 1954 archaeologists found the remains of a Roman temple to Mithras". I'm also a fan of looking through the talk pages of WP articles as it's often more interesting. I spend far too much time wondering why people say things like this. HIDE THE KNOWLEDGE! MrN 17:30, Feb 8
- A good find. I had looked in the main article, but this has more info. I changed out the first Gandhi pic (moved the fun one down the page). If we continue we should maybe make a new section on the talk page, as I'm feeling Castro-phobic. Aleikster 17:35
- "The Bank's original home was in Walbrook in the City of London, where during the building's reconstruction in 1954 archaeologists found the remains of a Roman temple to Mithras". I'm also a fan of looking through the talk pages of WP articles as it's often more interesting. I spend far too much time wondering why people say things like this. HIDE THE KNOWLEDGE! MrN 17:30, Feb 8
- p.s. Seems the Mithra ruins are still there in the City of London, and the bank moved its building. Scat, bank, scat!
- Ah, just when I had the page doing well - in my own mind. I try to polish and sculpt every word, but then another guy comes along with a chisel. Collabs eventually leave everyone happy though. I do like the Golem pic, it seems to be made to be Gandhi-in-satire. To make it more Gandhi I put the caption "all rights reserved" thing. Faith works, and has a power that changes societies when done well. Same thoughts about Rome and the structure, I guess that is common knowledge, except to most Catholics who still think it's the real deal. I will research that temple thing, intriquing, thanks for the data! Alkster 17:03
- Well, the roman leadership became the Roman Catholic church, and the Emperor became the pope when Rome fell apart. That much I think is rather true. Personally I find it fascinating looking through all the missinfo about the past. The most interesting part is when you see who is doing what, when and try to figure out why. Faith is a position for which I have a lot of respect. Anyway, I should really edit this article a bit. That pic of golem looks bad as the opening picture for this article, but it's all good... MrN 16:56, Feb 8
- An honest man about Shakespeare. William would have been on uncy if he were writing today, he was a very good satirist. And Mithra, about a month ago two users were rewriting that article and spent hundreds of hours on it (or so it seemed), trying to get misinfo into the Mithra=Christianity story -- although it's probably feature worthy. I didn't know about the Bank of England thing, is that in the City of London or just London? I know catholics loved to put their buildings on holy pagan and other religious sites, and did so regularly (like power mad squirrels taking over the nests of eagles). I love Tolstoy's real name, and put it in the article here. His wikipedia page you linked has his autograph on it, and that's some signature! War and Peace, whoo whoo. Aleister 16:32 8-2-'12
- I think there was a religious group around back then who were advocating cutting everyone's cocks off. The Romans did lots of things at Nicaea, and who knows what the truth of it all is. Stopping people cutting their cocks off has got to be one of the better things to come out of it. The conversion between the worship of Mithra (the main Roman dude at the time) and Christianity from what I can tell is basically what the whole thing was about. The bank of England is built on the site of the old Mithra temple in London. Tolstoy on Shakespeare made me giggle. He really does not like the dude! ""I remember the astonishment I felt when I first read Shakespeare. I expected to receive a powerful aesthetic pleasure, but having read, one after the other, works regarded as his best: "King Lear", "Romeo and Juliet", "Hamlet" and "Macbeth," not only did I feel no delight, but I felt an irresistible repulsion and tedium...". He goes on:..." -- "Hea Man. I wrote war and peace Hamlet is shit." MrN 12:52, Feb 8
- p.s. Ah, I've never read the Nicaea article, and have wanted to know more about it. I see they outlawed self-castration - Now you tell me!
- What? No, I was joking. More of a commentary on how words for blacks have evolved since Gandhi's or King's time, so now what they called them is offensive to some of the black guys themselves. You've educated me on language and history though, which is informative. I've done some more research on Gandhi's influences, and I didn't know about John Ruskin and his pamphlet that Gandhi was impressed with as he started his South African movements. I'll look at your links now, thanks. You and I are learning more about Gandhi and this other stuff, and soon we will free the French women from their oppressive lifestyle of wine and cheese. Aleister 12:07 8-2-'12
- I'm reading about Tolstoy now. This you might find interesting if you have not looked at it already. RE the Negro thing... I saw it as like how people here in the UK use "coloured" when they mean African. It's not racist, just not informed about how people like words to be used. The word Negro is not racist IMO. As Per WP "The word negro means 'black' in Spanish and Portuguese, from the Latin niger, 'black', probably from a Proto-Indo-European root *nekw-, 'to be dark', akin to *nokw- 'night". I think 'Nigger' was first used to to refer to captured African slaves in America by a Spanish dude, so that's probably not right to use, but anyway... If you are suggesting that he was racist then I clearly have a lot to learn about the guy! MrN 01:52, Feb 8
- Totally agree about the vedas and the gita and other Indian holy/knowledge books. But Gandhi did actually credit Tolstoy's book with kick-starting his stuff. The prophets (i.e. guys) all built on each other and wrote down what worked and what didn't. When Jesus or whoever edited the bible summarized it quite well in the sermon on the mount, it resonated in the west, only it took about 2000 years to get the christian structure removed from it. His quote about the negroes was his word, and he should have been chastized for not using the term African-American, what a crazy man. Aleister 1:01 8-2-'12
- Not being a Christian myself, from what I can tell Jesus, Vishnu, Buddha, Mithra, Tammuz and loads of other gods are all copying their information from the same place which would be the oldest texts which talk about the same stuff. A lot of what Gandhi was going on about was based in the Vedic texts IMO. The Egyptians copied that, and the bible copied them. To be fair to Gandhi the Vedas did come out of India, so it's not really like he is nicking all his stuff from abroad. As per Mother Teresa and her relationship with Gandhi I do think it likely that yes. He was indeed knocking up mother Teresa. I mean who would not given the opportunity. I do think that Gandhi was controlled to some extent by the west, and he was just a man. I'm not sure what you mean about his use of the word "negro", personally I see nothing wrong with the word used in the way I thought he did. Anyway, I thought that nigger thing was the pope. MrN 00:48, Feb 8
- Knocking up Mother Teresa? As I think I know, Gandhi was just a guy who got the brave gene after reading Tolstoy's "The Kingdom of God is Within You". That book kind of rescued Jesus' words from the sermon on the mound and made them real again (the words had to be dusted so the history of the catholics and christianity wasn't lingering), and found action in the words. He started to experiment (his main book was actually named "My Experiments with Truth" of something). He said at one point that the main use of his teachings would come from the American "negro", who would perfect them further, hence King, Parks, Bevel and the rest. Gandhi himself had personal drawbacks, as those other guys did and do, and was a major dick to his wife and not always in a good way. He seems to have had a huge temper, which he could control and flow (Bevel apparantly had the same). Yet his actions and writings were where his contributions came from, and he knew that he was nothing special, just a guy experimenting with Tolstoy's and Jesus' information. He disliked the honoring and hoopla, and all that Mahatma business. Or so I thnk I know. I'll get back to the page soon, not much today but later. Whew, I didn't know I'd be so long winded (takes break for more wind). Enjoy. Aleister 00:15 8-2-'12
- Cool. Yea, there are two different versions of the story of the man I understand. I will leave ya to it for a bit then, and take a look again later. I always assumed that he was knocking off mother Teresa when I was a kid... MrN 23:41, Feb 7
- Note on your talk page too. Nice! It would be fun to collab on a rewrite. Like you I came upon this pile of Indian cow-dung at some point, and started in editing it. In researching Gandhi it seems he didn't do as many movements as I thought he did, and wanted to reflect that in the page. I picked up a good DVD copy of the Gandhi film yesterday, for more research. I guess I love the start and the Christmas lights, they just fit somehow. Hyperbole recently edited some stuff into the top intro (I guess there are two intros, which seem to work, to me at least). I'll edit the opening pic, per talk page stuff. Gandhiji. Aleister 23:35 7-2-'12
Interwiki[edit source]
I wrote an article about Mohandas Gandhi on the Dutch Oncyclopedia, and can't place the interwiki links here because of the protection against vandals. Can anyone with the permission to do so add the interwiki's? MDV (talk) 08:48, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- can you tell me what text i am adding? ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) 08:49, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, this is the text I wanted to add:
[[ar:مهاتما غاندي]] [[es:Mohandas Gandhi]] [[fr:Gandhi Maître du Kung Fu]] [[it:Mahatma Gandhi]] [[ja:マハトマ・ガンジー]] [[nl:Mohandas Gandhi]] [[no:Mahatma Gandhi]] [[pt: Mahatma Gandhi]] [[sv:Mahatma Gandhi]] MDV (talk) 09:25, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- Done. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) 09:39, 2 February 2013 (UTC)