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Well, I've been thinking about this:

Since the recent WikiCrisis, some of us have been thinking about getting an alternate hosting place. You may be familiar with Illogicalpedia, which is another website similar to ours. Since both Uncyclopedia and Illogicalpedia are both satrical themed wikis, we can merge as one. As Wikia is being nasty with us, we need all the help we can get.

Have a good think and contact Illogicalpedia Alexander the Great 10:14, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Fuck no--Sycamore (Talk) 10:15, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Seconded. Emphasis on the "no". The "fuck" too, but for entirely unrelated reasons. -RAHB 10:21, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Not gonna happen. You seem to misunderstand: Illogic and Uncyc are completely different wikis - Illogic was actually an offshoot of Uncyc created by people unhappy with Uncyc's increasingly deletionist ideals. By suggesting this, you run the risk of riling some bigwigs, so it's best to keep schtum about it all... -- Hindleyite Converse • ?pedia 14:15, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

PS, for anyone remotely bothered, it's "Illogicopedia". -- Hindleyite Converse • ?pedia 14:16, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

No. They are completely different. 1) Hindleyite's explanation above ^. 2) Uncyc is so much better. • • • Necropaxx (T) {~} 16:54, Nov 10

Can we refocus on the whole fuck issue? ~ 19:08, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

^^ Seconded. _{OBAMA  •  SONIC80 -- ( Praise  •  Masterpieces  •  Contributions )} ^{(Thar be-eth a timestamp -->} 21:34, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Illogicopedia sucks balls compared to Uncyc, and what would we call it? "Uncyclogicopedia"? No. Just no. --GDawg816 | Talk | GDawg816, he pwns all n00bz n roxxors all soxxors 18:13, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Comment: Illogicopedia isn't the only wiki to be in the process of leaving Wikia for a proper host elsewhere. Take a look at w:c:furry:WikiFur:Moving hosts, w:c:starwars:Forum:Finding alternative hosting, w:c:transformers:Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Leaving and it becomes clear that w:c:illogicopedia:IllogiNews:WE HAVE LEFT WIKIA is just one community among many who has been pushed too far. I'd expect that, once we have some sort of clear consensus (and not just "let's make one last attempt to negotiate" without any clear idea of whom is going to do the negotiation, what the demands will be and whether there is any clear deadline to resolve the Wikia issues or move elsewhere) it would be relatively trivial to put a copy of Uncyclopedia up on some other server and move on our own. Uncyclopedia should be an independent wiki; indeed, in many of our languages, this objective has already been realised. The Korean Uncyclopedia is hosted in Seoul, Korea and has nothing to do with Wikia, the Oncyclopedia Neerlandica is back in the Netherlands where it belongs, why not us? --Carlb 05:09, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

• So if this is an alternate universe, the servers will be in Pyongyang instead of Seoul, right? And that means our servers are independent in an alternate universe, right?

Back to the real world topic:

Why not we move from Wikia to an independent server, and form a charity organisation dedicated to free comedy? I strongly support the move from Wikia to an independent server. Why? Because I want Uncyc to be free. Also, I wanted a merge between Uncyc and Illogicopedia. |Si Plebius Dato' Joe ang Pinoy CUN|IC Kill | 06:30, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, because of the nature of our site, we cant be a charity, in any legal sense. In which case, if we run donation drives, those will be taxed. Any prizes we hand out will be taxed. Any revenue we generate will be taxed. Considering the size of this website, we would eventually must do donation drives to maintain and expand the server. Maybe if all the Uncyclopedias could form up as UnVoltron we could have a more distributed cost by spreading donation drives over all Uncyclons, and have a pool of cash that is used for server maintenance.--Nytrospawn 14:13, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Or to finally buy Chron that Ferari Enzo he's been on about for four years now. ~ 17:30, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

You could buy him General Motors for $2.92 and he could own the company. – Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.102.80.212 (talk • contribs)

Fork you!

It looks like Wikia is dealing with communities who are moving their wikis elsewhere by leaving the old projects open and operating them as forks. Once again, Wikia staff is repeatedly removing any text indicating that the original community has moved and replacing it with their own weasel-worded nonsense. "A few have left", as in "we know quite well we pushed them too far with a failed attempt to force an ugly, advertising-heavy reskin on an unwilling community, and actually they all left after months of failed attempts to resolve various issues, but we intend to put them in their place by forking their project instead of accepting what by now is already a fait accompli."

Wikia is also taking sysop flags away from anyone who complains about their antics, for instance:

17:36 (User rights log) . . KyleH (Talk | contribs) changed group membership for User:Testostereich from Werewolves to (none) (-sysop)

Nothing new, Wikia staff did pretty much the same or worse to the Scandinavian versions of Uncyclopedia when they went independent or non-Wikia. Just don't be surprised if and when they treat en.Uncyc in the same manner. This is normal. --Carlb 19:22, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Log/rights / http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sitenotice&action=history — Sir Manticore 05:26, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Considering that Uncyclopedia is almost exclusively staffed by misanthropes and very vocal pranksters, I can only assume the feces-storm that would happen if Wikia tried to do that to us. The amount of hypervandelism that would go on to Wikia's forklopedia would be enough to bring NXWave to tears.--Nytrospawn 14:38, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I make no attempt to hide my disgruntledness with Wikia over this matter. Add to that the New Monaco fiasco and moving the Uncyclopedia domain name without any permission whatsoever you've got one meddling wiki host. Hmm, chalk up another big, black mark against Wikia. -- Hindleyite Converse • ?pedia 16:32, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

The Guardian (UK) reports this has gone to the point that, in their eagerness to turn the site into an unusable mess of advertising, Wikia has pushed many communities too far. Illogicopedia is not an isolated case, nor are the various non-Wikia versions of Uncyclopedia. The individual Uncyclopedia languages that recently moved have been going fully-independent, not to Wikia. And, by now, Alexa traffic shows Wikia dropping like a rock. I guess this is why? --Carlb 19:09, 14 November 2008 (UTC)