Forum:VFH has had like 10 votes in 3 days

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Vote (damnit) -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​UU​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 00:55, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

But it's so hard to vote....can't you make the system easier? →L A B O R A T O R I E S ^{01:55, 21 June 2012}

VFH used to be like VFD format. It then changed to the current format and votes fell of the edge of the cliff. It always used to appear in my Watchlist, and for some undefinable reason, this just made me more inclined to vote. I can't defend why this is the case, but it seems like several of us felt the same way. mAttlobster. (hello) 15:41, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

What do you mean...before? Before articles had to be pee reviewed or nommed by someone else? --ShabiDOO 19:11, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

Way before that. Before you were born, probably. VFH used to be a single page, then nominations all got paginated.

Honestly, Matt's probably right. The new VFH (calling it "new" is still funny, since it's 5 years old at this point) did correspond pretty bigly with a steep dropoff in votes, and I know that I always used to vote when it kept showing up on the watchlist too. Then again, VFD still does that and even fewer people vote on that nowadays. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​UU​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 21:59, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

Hmmmm

Does anyone really care if we went commercial and lost Wikia? The most convincing argument against it was invasive advertising, but now we have a content warning that is the most invasive thing I have ever seen on a site. If you re-invest any advertising profits in the community (PLS prizes etc.) could it be any worse than our wikia ghetto today? They can occupy the same places as current Wikia advertisements today. We would probably end up with the same 'Busted Tees' and dull online fantasy games. It would give ultimate control back to the Uncyclopedia community. Cmon guys, we probably have less activity than the topic section of cracked, and that is about as funny as Hitler's pet breast cancer. Nikau (talk) 02:19, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

I'd cite [1] as a defence to anyone who questions whether the advertisers could influence content. Their jokes are as tasteless as possible, and they run a large community. Also, look at how many thousand votes they get on jokes. Nikau (talk) 02:25, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

How would it work? Can you imagine the shitfest over how cash would be distributed? Mattsnow 02:47, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

PLS prizes. Expand it to 4 times a year. Also the similar awards for writing requested articles. Not hard. The largest share would go to hosting the site. The downside I can see is a large cull of crap articles before we shift, because 8000kb of 'Jim is gay sex balls grue raped Hitler bro' might cost a lot. Nikau (talk) 03:27, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

Wikia is the best host we could ask for. Leaving Wikia will never happen. --EMC ^[TALK] 19:08 Jun 21 2012

Plan

Before we move, let's have a month-long Forest Fire, and ban the creation of all new articles in the mainspace. All users will patrol recent edits to search for vandal articles, and scan the mainspace for articles of poor quality. They will all be QVFD's, or better, sent to one of the admins via a list (can be made on a new forum) and huffed outright. This seems like a sound way to save space and make the quality of our site a little more universal. →L A B O R A T O R I E S ^{13:55, 21 June 2012}

Whoa whoa whoa, we still get at least 25 featured articles written each month. A ban is suicide.

Quality is quite high nowadays, it takes 5 to 10 tries on 'random' to dig up a vfd article now. I'd hazard that most of the crap is in userspace, unfinished muck that avoids the deletion policy. A limit on the number of user (User:X/Whatever...) space pages at like 30 or something high seems better. It may encourage good users to clean out and finish good things; I fucking need to. Nikau (talk) 16:09, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

Also, to get our 25 highest traffic mainspace articles to featured standard is a must. Nikau (talk) 16:09, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

Let's never-ever fucking do that. mAttlobster. (hello) 16:16, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 17:57, 21 June 2012

How should we punish HGA for suggesting we ban mainspace?--ShabiDOO 19:10, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

Let's cook him. Cat the Colourful (Feed me!) Zzz 19:17, 21 June, 2012 (UTC)

Sounds delicious, baked, boiled, grilled or fried? -- Simsilikesims(♀UN) Talk here. 22:04, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

Merinate him, dehydrate him and then smoke him: Jerkey style. --ShabiDOO 22:10, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

Any clue

Does anyone have any clue how much:

• Registering a domain name (that hasn't already been taken) is,?
  • My very basic research here says registering a domain costs between 10 and 200 USD
  • And it has to be renewed yearly
• Typical monthly running costs for a moderately visited site it?
  • Hosting...apparantly is between 100 and 250 per year
• How many hours people would have to be put in to do all the coding and maintenence?
  • Getting the actual design and basic implementation of the site is between 200 and 2000 USD
  • I assume that there would be ginormous amount of hours though for programers and other maintenence
• How far $1000USD of advertising would take us to get a small amount of visitors and potential writers?
  • Apparantly that wont get very far.

--ShabiDOO 19:09, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

@Shabidoo: (1)Wikia owns our goddamned domain name. I have no idea how much they would force us to give them as blood-money. Yes, it has to be renewed regularly, but the term depends on the registrar (I think). (2)We need a dedicated server. I have found decent dedicated servers for $100 - $200 a MONTH. Several of our users could afford to foot that bill (and, in Olipro's case, have even offered). However, we also need admins who are experienced, both with MediaWiki AND server maintenance/administration. We don't have those, and I have gotten outrageous quotes for monthly fees. (3)Because we don't know what our site-stats are, we have no idea what monetizing our site would be worth. From what I know (which is precious little), even a moderately-successful blog (with tens of thousands of eyes per day) won't make enough off of advertising to pay for the hosting, much less the administration. If you extrapolate that to this site, that doesn't bode well. So, yeah, advertising won't pay for our New Server (insert sound of chorus and harps). The best-case scenario...is that enough users with server experience will step forward and agree to work for free, Olipro will run our server, and advertising will pay for one awesome-ass PLS prize. Advertising, alone, paying for our upkeep...is a silly pipe dream, at least for now. ~ BB ~ (T) ~ Sun, Jun 24 '12 4:42 (UTC)

But we could have a share/like button with zero cost and a lot less work :) :) :) --ShabiDOO 05:15, June 24, 2012 (UTC)

You just don't want me to have a life, do you. That's what this is about, isn't it? ~ BB ~ (T) ~ Sun, Jun 24 '12 6:54 (UTC)

No...I just want to have a share button so the voices stop tormenting me. HELP ME GET THESE VOICES OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --ShabiDOO 00:12, June 25, 2012 (UTC)

Sounds complicated, let's just stay with Wikia. Cat the Colourful (Feed me!) Zzz 19:59, 21 June, 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. Moving to another server could introduce new problems, like server crashes, slowness in accessing the site, or insufficient advertisers willing to advertise on our site. We might attract enough advertisers at first, but some might pull out once somebody complains to them about the offending page of the day. People just don't find the same kinds of things funny. I like the occasional Reader's Digest joke, for example. I also like MAD magazine. I found sexually suggestive humor to be an acquired taste (though watching 3's Company reruns helped). -- Simsilikesims(♀UN) Talk here. 22:12, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

Again, you can forget any plans of moving Uncyc away from Wikia. It's never gonna happen. --EMC ^[TALK] 03:22 Jun 22 2012

So...you're saying you don't have 5000 dollars to donate to a good cause EMC? --ShabiDOO 03:54, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

Assuming that we could, and do, and are successful at moving, have you noticed how drunk and surly and unreliable Uncyclopedians are? They would not only be making content, but would also be making sure that the site functioned and existed and IT'd and fought the occasional legal challenge. Think about it. Then think about getting a pony. Ponies are awesome. I had one, so I know. Then I forgot about it and I didn't feed it and it was too much trouble and it died. Think about that, vis-a-vis my earlier point. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 10:00, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

Hopefully the pony got very respective funerals. Poor one... What was it's name? Cat the Colourful (Feed me!) Zzz 11:50, 22 June, 2012 (UTC)

Ms Huggywuggy. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 16:43, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

Should've called her Ms. Kickyouinthefacewhenyoutrytohugher, because she kicked me in the face when I tried to hug her. --EMC ^[TALK] 16:45 Jun 22 2012

Then again, most females do that to me when I try to hug them... --EMC ^[TALK] 16:46 Jun 22 2012

Question: Why did you try to hug Modusoperandi's pony? You sick pervert! Cat the Colourful (Feed me!) Zzz 16:51, 22 June, 2012 (UTC)

You're talking about moving away from Wikia AGAIN! Good grief the bitching never ends! --Scofield & Friends 13:26, June 24, 2012 (UTC)