User talk:Puppy/Archive 4
RAPE[edit source]
Kiss your virginity goodbye. • • 
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• 01:59, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
- Too late. Colin's already been there, done that, and has the scratches to prove it. Pup
- Really? The timestamp says otherwise.. • • • • 12:13, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
- The blood on the sheets doesn't lie! Pup
- Really? The timestamp says otherwise.. • •
Congratulations![edit source]
You've managed to locate my mega-super-hyper-turbo-championship-edition-version-4.59-secret page. If you leave a message here, then it will be read by me. Pup
Because nobody's said it yet...[edit source]
Rape. But, I'm too distracted by Lord Buckley to say anything more. Where the Wild Colins Are - LET THE WILD RUMPUS START! 02:44, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
Whaaaat.[edit source]
If you'd put the conservation template on Stereotype, I wouldn't have spent a bunch of time earlier today breaking the article into subpages. Now I sad. --Andorin Kato 07:19, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
- I wouldn't have even bothered to do that. In fact, as that was the only place that linked to those pages, they are now all orphans. Bwahahahaha! Seriously though, they are QVFD material in my mind. If you think there's anything worth saving then let me know, otherwise I'll put them up for QVFD. Pup
- Sure. I barely read the subpages as I created them; I was only interested in breaking the article up, since it was >250k bytes and I didn't know a rewrite was incoming. QVFD them if you like, but you might want to finish the rewrite first (I understand it's still in progress?). --Andorin Kato 07:31, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
- It's completed bar proof-reading. At least, I think it is - I may think of something else I want to add to it. Pup
- Sure. I barely read the subpages as I created them; I was only interested in breaking the article up, since it was >250k bytes and I didn't know a rewrite was incoming. QVFD them if you like, but you might want to finish the rewrite first (I understand it's still in progress?). --Andorin Kato 07:31, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
Potter![edit source]
That's what I pronounce your abrev-nem like. So it's that or Puppy, decide now. Orian57 Talk 
16:03 10 November 2009
- Puppycomb Radioshack (lvl 32 gay elf).. • • • • 16:13, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry Moosh. You have to remember that us gingers are envious of people who can be in the sun for more than 30 seconds and not be burnt. Pup
- Why? Are you vampires? • • • • 03:02, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- Yes. I want to suck your... Pup
- Why? Are you vampires? • •
- Back to before we were talking about Moosh's BLOOD, the abbrevs of my name I usually see are POTR (which I pronounce as Piotr, by the way) or Puppy. The abbrevs of my name that haven't caught on are Pup, Punter (after Ricky Ponting, who is a moron), PupRad, and the PEE-dawg. Pup
- Pup is short and catchy. I hereby dub you "Pup." • • • • 04:06, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
You need to change your sig[edit source]
now that Street Fighter is featured. DO IT! • • • Necropaxx (T) {~} Tuesday, 21:48, Nov 10 2009
- On my list of things to do, which also includes a face-lift to my user page and my talk page, VFDing the old stereotype list cruft, QVFDing my old user pages that I don't use, creating my own super secret page, rewriting another article, finding a new job, getting into shape so I can wear a bikini this summer and the other girls won't laugh at me, designing a better mousetrap, and breathing on a regular basis. Pup
Did I unintentionally mess up your page?[edit source]
Orian was complaining that his quote got quoted correctly, with the errors intact, so I fixed it, only this happened. Did I do that? King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 22:16, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
- I liked the "Noby", but don't stress the rest - I'll look at it later and actually remove the quote. I'm going to roll my archived talk pages into only one or two. Pup
Did I intentionally mess up your page?[edit source]
No. No, don't think I did. --Pleb SYNDROME CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!) 22:31, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
- That could potentially be annoying. If I actually browsed with images, that is. Pup
- You browse with images disabled? That's weird. You're weird. --Pleb SYNDROME CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!) 00:06, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
Thanks[edit source]
You have just crossed over into... the Thank You Zone. The Global Tourniquet says "Thanks for voting for my featured article"
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- It was well deserved. Pup
Okay, you mangy colonists.[edit source]
I've been commissioned by Mooshy to rerererevitalize IC. I'm to be the glorious leader, etc. because Sissy, Gerry, and Opty have all fucked off. So, I have a few general ideas to start with on what to do. First of all, no fucking infighting. What's said by the authority figures goes. This is Imperial Colonization, not Imperial United States Congress. Second, there should be more of a limit on articles for nomination. Somewhere between 5 and 10. We'll never get to all 17 that are up there if people's votes are so scattered. Third, an active recruiting drive. It fits the name. We're going to draft Satirical Soldiers to deal with the bloody natives at those shit articles on IC. This said, I still want to hear all of your opinions on what to do. Either drop me a line on my talk page, or I'm on IRC damn near all day very weekday. So lets get going, Colonizers! Where the Wild Colins Are - LET THE WILD RUMPUS START! 16:42, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
Muhammad picture[edit source]
Please revert your changes and avoid from changing pictures on user spaces in the future unless you get a admin's consent or the user's consent. Thanks. ~
19:28, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- Why don't you just delete that fucking image? Please, care for other people's feelings. And to hell with that bullshit, a talk page is not a "private" page hidden in userspace. Thanks. • • • • 19:38, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- If we cared that much about people's feelings, do you think we'd have 25,000 articles? Besides, I never saw any harm in someone's imaginary friend sucking a dick. Where the Wild Colins Are - LET THE WILD RUMPUS START! 19:40, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- Several of us find that image offensive, and that's those of us who aren't even Muslim. It's about the most offensive image I could imagine. And by the way, my feelings have nothing to do with any sexual morality; I am not in the slightest offended by a man orally pleasuring another man's genitals. Also I agree with Mahm00shA: anyone with access to the Internet can find people's talk pages. King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 19:44, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- Than "several of you" need to post the image on VFD and get consent to delete that image. For the record, I don't like this picture, but I'm not going to let users censor other user pages. ~
19:48, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- FU EDIT CONFLICT. But, that's a lot better than what I was going to say. Where the Wild Colins Are - LET THE WILD RUMPUS START! 19:50, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- ok, i know that most of you are islamophobic, and i don't blame you but the image is shock-offensive and would fall within the delete-on-sight category, but.. here is an easy solution: just remove the english and arabic (totally incorrect, btw) lables. then you can caption it however you like for all we care • • • • 20:10, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not Islamophobic (in fact, in terms of logic and values presented, I found the Koran a much better read than most other religious texts), I'm a censorphobe. We can't take something out without having to take off everything that someone found offensive. Where the Wild Colins Are - LET THE WILD RUMPUS START! 20:14, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- Don't get into the whole conspiracy theories here. Speaking for myself I'm certainly not Islamophobic, and as I have a degree in Middle Eastern studies amongst other things, I actually read extensive parts of the Quran in the past. As far as I'm personally concerned this is not a shock picture, it's a cartoon. A bad one, but still a cartoon. I personally removed shock images of dead Muslims from the site - but cartoons are a different matter. So either put it up on VFD or leave it be. ~ 20:17, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- I didn't see the images you're referring to, but images of dead people that document a historical event can have a legitimate use. I can see no use for this image other than being offensive to Muslims. Doesn't that violate a wiki policy? King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 20:23, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- Don't get into the whole conspiracy theories here. Speaking for myself I'm certainly not Islamophobic, and as I have a degree in Middle Eastern studies amongst other things, I actually read extensive parts of the Quran in the past. As far as I'm personally concerned this is not a shock picture, it's a cartoon. A bad one, but still a cartoon. I personally removed shock images of dead Muslims from the site - but cartoons are a different matter. So either put it up on VFD or leave it be. ~
- Check the history of the previous version. It just got reverted back. The image is being used specifically to be offensive to Muslims (who are one of the most common religious groups in the world, by the way, vastly outnumbering Jews). King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 20:19, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- Do you really believe I need a lesson in world demographics? I'm getting very annoyed with all of this "we whine and take a moral stand rather than do something about it". Either put the fucking thing on VFD or stop dropping into conversations you are not part of. ~ 20:24, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- Do you really believe I need a lesson in world demographics? I'm getting very annoyed with all of this "we whine and take a moral stand rather than do something about it". Either put the fucking thing on VFD or stop dropping into conversations you are not part of. ~
- Addition: Just realized my comment above could sound sarcastic in a way I didn't mean. I am certainly not against Jews, considering one of my best friends is Jewish and I've been to synagogue, read the Torah, etc. My point is against stereotypes, such as my Jewish friend who is terrible at making business deals or "jewing" people. Some people think of Muslims as a few small groups of extremists who blow things up as opposed to being about 1 billion people. It's like saying all Christians are the Ku Klux Klan or followed Jim Jones and David Koresh, or all Wikpedians are <insert name here>. (By the way, I was writing this as you were writing your response--I realized what I said didn't come across the way I meant. Sorry about that). King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 20:19, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- Mordillo, as I recall I posted my concerns about this image and another image on your talk page on 12 Oct. 2009 and 13 Oct. 2009. On one you didn't give me an answer; on the other you said "discussion closed." Anyone is free to check the discussion for themselves as it's linked above. (I edited this to give a link to both discussion and also to cut out my unnecessary sacarcasm--sorry, letting my emotions get in the way, but as no one has yet responded to this, I hope it's all right to change it). King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 20:38, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not Islamophobic (in fact, in terms of logic and values presented, I found the Koran a much better read than most other religious texts), I'm a censorphobe. We can't take something out without having to take off everything that someone found offensive. Where the Wild Colins Are - LET THE WILD RUMPUS START! 20:14, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- ok, i know that most of you are islamophobic, and i don't blame you but the image is shock-offensive and would fall within the delete-on-sight category, but.. here is an easy solution: just remove the english and arabic (totally incorrect, btw) lables. then you can caption it however you like for all we care • •
- FU EDIT CONFLICT. But, that's a lot better than what I was going to say. Where the Wild Colins Are - LET THE WILD RUMPUS START! 19:50, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- Than "several of you" need to post the image on VFD and get consent to delete that image. For the record, I don't like this picture, but I'm not going to let users censor other user pages. ~
- Several of us find that image offensive, and that's those of us who aren't even Muslim. It's about the most offensive image I could imagine. And by the way, my feelings have nothing to do with any sexual morality; I am not in the slightest offended by a man orally pleasuring another man's genitals. Also I agree with Mahm00shA: anyone with access to the Internet can find people's talk pages. King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 19:44, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
A solution for those of you offended by the image in question that's really straightforward and easy[edit source]
Just don't look at it. Problem solved. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 20:23, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- I heartily approve of this message. Where the Wild Colins Are - LET THE WILD RUMPUS START! 20:26, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- No, that's not a solution. There are two possible scenarios. One, people will put some effort into it, place the image on VFD, get consent and I'll be happy to delete it, or avoid starting whole theological discussions if they can't bother putting that on VFD, the amount of effort being placed here is ten times more than a simple VFD vote! ~ 20:30, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- Is there a reason you didn't tell me this was an option when I specifically went to you for help on this image a month ago (see link above) but instead refused to talk to me about it? King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 20:41, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- If there's anything you want to discuss I have a talk page. ~ 20:43, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- There, it's nommed. Now go
EXTERMINATE! it. -- DameViktoria 
- (Contribs) - (Talk) - (Block log) 20:46, 11 Nov - Mordillo, your talk page is what I'm talking about. On one issue you said discussion closed, and on the other it went for just short of a month and you never answered me. Should I continue posting on your talk page when you say you don't want me to, or when you don't answer me? See links above, thank you. King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 22:39, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- There, it's nommed. Now go
- If there's anything you want to discuss I have a talk page. ~
- Is there a reason you didn't tell me this was an option when I specifically went to you for help on this image a month ago (see link above) but instead refused to talk to me about it? King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 20:41, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- No, that's not a solution. There are two possible scenarios. One, people will put some effort into it, place the image on VFD, get consent and I'll be happy to delete it, or avoid starting whole theological discussions if they can't bother putting that on VFD, the amount of effort being placed here is ten times more than a simple VFD vote! ~
Just so you know...[edit source]
...feel free to add your recent CW Week rewrites to the "Victories" section of Der Unwehr, and then give yourself points accordingly. You are a member, after all, and your contributions mean you're deserving of a status beyond Plebicite, or whatever. So yeah. (CW rewrites are 4 instead of 2, just so you know, and then they were featured on top of that, so...) —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 20:20, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- To be honest Guildy I actually made myself a member as a tongue in cheek thing, hence the infinitely low score and the label that doesn't technically exist. Kind of like the whole Rcmurphy being a perpetual n00b thing. Having said that, I'm happy for someone to tally up my results so far with rewrites and fixing templates and the like, but in the long run I do this because I like to write, I like to code, I like being part of this community, and I want to have this site reach it's fullest potential. I don't really have a huge desire for more awards or anything of the like, and the idea of me spending time tallying points that I could spend writing seems a little counter-intuitive. Sorry if this sounds abrupt - I'm typing in what I think is a conversational tone, and I avidly support what you are doing, but it's not a high priority for me, it you follow my meaning. And I do appreciate you keeping an eye out for my interests as well. Pup
- There's some sort of a point thing here? Where is that, anyway? King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 01:43, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
- I gotcha, and it's no big deal. The whole idea behind my little usergroup-thing is to encourage wiki improvement--from the looks of it, you need no encouragement, so yeah. Keep up the fantastic work! And to answer Why's question, click the "Unfuhrer" bit of my sig. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 01:45, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
- I saw that, but didn't know if I could participate as I already signed up for Imperial Colonization, which seems to be in a coma right now. They're trying to revive it, though, so I'll see how that goes. King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 05:12, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
- I gotcha, and it's no big deal. The whole idea behind my little usergroup-thing is to encourage wiki improvement--from the looks of it, you need no encouragement, so yeah. Keep up the fantastic work! And to answer Why's question, click the "Unfuhrer" bit of my sig. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 01:45, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
- There's some sort of a point thing here? Where is that, anyway? King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 01:43, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
Muhammad image[edit source]
This will always be a thorn in peoples sides, and is questionable on legal terms. While I am extremely in favour of a right to free speech, I'm also extremely in favour of people's right to choose to worship as they see fit, and extremely in favour of avoiding any religious persecution. The argument about User spaces is ridiculous as it is in the public domain, and it has been being used in mainspace, and there are links to the user pages from public forums, main space, competition pages, etc. From main page I can see three links direct to user pages (myself, Bluespirit and necro) and indirectly through CW page (you know, that huge in your face link from main page) there are another 20 or so user pages. My amendment to it gets this a little further out of the murky grey area legally, and still has the same humour level. (In fact, I actually think it is funnier.) Pup
- Puppy, Sannse huffed the image because it violated Wikia's terms of use, as I thought. I'd suggest you remove or change your version of the image, as I think it's just as offensive and still likely violates the terms. King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 22:36, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- To be precise, I am just as much in favor of freedom to choose a religion and culture. And I'm against treating any such choice with kid gloves, and eagerly support the articles that ridicule stereotypes. What this image (and the former Gay nigger sex) involves is deliberate offense with no connection to humor. (The use of Arabic accentuates the deliberateness.) That's my problem with it. A caricature, a poor use of Photoshop, a bearded Semite labeled "the prophet" eating a phallus-shaped carrot, any of these would make the connection to humor; and at that point, I don't care who can't take a joke (unless he's got a sword). Spıke ¬ 23:04 11-Nov-09
- It's humorous when people get their panties in a bundle over something that doesn't matter in the slightest. (I'm referring to the image, not to the staff abuse in deleting it.) To explain what I mean, Sania Mirza is funny because of Talk:Sania Mirza. --Pleb SYNDROME CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!) 23:19, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- Correction: "It's humorous when people get their panties in a bundle over something that doesn't matter in the slightest to me personally." With all due respect, Syndrome, I see a lot of "that's stupid; that's not funny" etc. here. Because it's not important to you and your personal views, you make a blanket statement that's it's not important, period. It is deeply important to some people; people have killed others and have voluntarily given their own lives over such issues. You might want to look at a book that emphasizes how it's helpful to look at things from other people's points of view, and that there's not just one way to view reality. You might have heard of it. It's called Principia Discordia. King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 23:27, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- Never heard of it. But my point is that it's just an image. Yes, it a grave sin in hardcore Islam. Well, at least drawing it is. I don't think looking at it is a sin. We're not going to accidentally send anyone to Hell by having it here to see. Don't get me wrong, I understand the gravity of the image. It's atrocious. It's crimethink. But at the end of the day, it's just an image. Don't tell me it's not a little funny that people have killed over something as petty as an image. They, and we, need to just chill and focus on what's important (namely my sizzling hot body). --Pleb SYNDROME CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!) 23:39, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- Not so much funny as it is scary... • • • Necropaxx (T) {~} Wednesday, 23:57, Nov 11 2009
- It takes a certain sense of humor, I guess. Ever seen King of Hearts? --Pleb SYNDROME CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!) 00:02, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, but that kind of thing can be funny because it's not real. —Sir Socky
(talk) (stalk)
GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 00:05, 12 November 2009
- World War I was a-pretty-pretty real. (And that image wasn't a real photo of Mohammed licking cock. The existence of such an image would have a world of implications in and of itself.) --Pleb SYNDROME CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!) 00:11, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
- No, I mean the fact that people have died because of some drawings in some news papers that supposedly represent this notable person. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 00:16, 12 November 2009
- Guys! Mohammed is real! But he's gay. • • • Necropaxx (T) {~} Thursday, 00:17, Nov 12 2009
- Tell them to come and get me. They know where I am. That's right. On the Internet. --Pleb SYNDROME CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!) 00:22, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
- Syndrome, no offense, but if you ever had someone make a serious death threat against you, you might feel differently. Then again, you might joke even more about it as a release. King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 02:01, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
- No, I mean the fact that people have died because of some drawings in some news papers that supposedly represent this notable person. —Sir Socky
- World War I was a-pretty-pretty real. (And that image wasn't a real photo of Mohammed licking cock. The existence of such an image would have a world of implications in and of itself.) --Pleb SYNDROME CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!) 00:11, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, but that kind of thing can be funny because it's not real. —Sir Socky
- It takes a certain sense of humor, I guess. Ever seen King of Hearts? --Pleb SYNDROME CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!) 00:02, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
- Not so much funny as it is scary... • • • Necropaxx (T) {~} Wednesday, 23:57, Nov 11 2009
- Never heard of it. But my point is that it's just an image. Yes, it a grave sin in hardcore Islam. Well, at least drawing it is. I don't think looking at it is a sin. We're not going to accidentally send anyone to Hell by having it here to see. Don't get me wrong, I understand the gravity of the image. It's atrocious. It's crimethink. But at the end of the day, it's just an image. Don't tell me it's not a little funny that people have killed over something as petty as an image. They, and we, need to just chill and focus on what's important (namely my sizzling hot body). --Pleb SYNDROME CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!) 23:39, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- Correction: "It's humorous when people get their panties in a bundle over something that doesn't matter in the slightest to me personally." With all due respect, Syndrome, I see a lot of "that's stupid; that's not funny" etc. here. Because it's not important to you and your personal views, you make a blanket statement that's it's not important, period. It is deeply important to some people; people have killed others and have voluntarily given their own lives over such issues. You might want to look at a book that emphasizes how it's helpful to look at things from other people's points of view, and that there's not just one way to view reality. You might have heard of it. It's called Principia Discordia. King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 23:27, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- It's humorous when people get their panties in a bundle over something that doesn't matter in the slightest. (I'm referring to the image, not to the staff abuse in deleting it.) To explain what I mean, Sania Mirza is funny because of Talk:Sania Mirza. --Pleb SYNDROME CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!) 23:19, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
- To be precise, I am just as much in favor of freedom to choose a religion and culture. And I'm against treating any such choice with kid gloves, and eagerly support the articles that ridicule stereotypes. What this image (and the former Gay nigger sex) involves is deliberate offense with no connection to humor. (The use of Arabic accentuates the deliberateness.) That's my problem with it. A caricature, a poor use of Photoshop, a bearded Semite labeled "the prophet" eating a phallus-shaped carrot, any of these would make the connection to humor; and at that point, I don't care who can't take a joke (unless he's got a sword). Spıke ¬ 23:04 11-Nov-09
- Wow! I'm very popular today. Pup
- Who are you? And that's that in your sig? A dog staring at a cone? If he afraid of that cone going around his neck or something? --Pleb SYNDROME CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!) 00:28, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
- No, it's the stuff you put in that water-cooler that has drawn this crowd. PS--When I first saw that dog staring at a cone, my reaction was: "Oh, that puppy on that radio!" Spıke ¬ 00:33 12-Nov-09
- I like the image too. Even though it's not a puppy it's a dog, and it's not a radio, it's a phonograph playing "His Master's Voice." King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 01:12, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, the dog's name is Nipper. And no, technically he's not on the radio, but he was the partial inspiration for the handle. Speaking of, I'm doing a rewrite of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and trying to get character profiles to link back to. You'll never guess where Spike links to. Pup
- Speaking of having a puppy on the radio, I once had a penguin on my television set. And as to BtVS's Spike, did I ever tell you I knew him? Well, I didn't, but almost stepped on a spike once, so that's close. King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 01:47, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
- Uh, nowhere. It's a red-link. Spıke ¬ 01:50 12-Nov-09
- Actually, the dog's name is Nipper. And no, technically he's not on the radio, but he was the partial inspiration for the handle. Speaking of, I'm doing a rewrite of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and trying to get character profiles to link back to. You'll never guess where Spike links to. Pup
- I like the image too. Even though it's not a puppy it's a dog, and it's not a radio, it's a phonograph playing "His Master's Voice." King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 01:12, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
- No, it's the stuff you put in that water-cooler that has drawn this crowd. PS--When I first saw that dog staring at a cone, my reaction was: "Oh, that puppy on that radio!" Spıke ¬ 00:33 12-Nov-09
- Who are you? And that's that in your sig? A dog staring at a cone? If he afraid of that cone going around his neck or something? --Pleb SYNDROME CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!) 00:28, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
What "matters"?[edit source]
- Separately, and as though it mattered, I take WHY?'s side in the above squabble with Syndrome. That "people [are bothered] over something that doesn't matter" means your values differ from theirs. That is not necessarily a laughing matter, but something you must consider--whether they are your readers or your colleagues here--unless you are always right. Spıke ¬ 01:54 12-Nov-09
- I am a bit of a fence sitter here. I have no personal issue with the original image. I don't think it was hugely funny but it was offensive and murky legally/ethically. More cons than pros, basically. The first image I uploaded to this site was of Pope Benny XVI being fellated (as a fairly poor potatochop). But I also think of it this way - if my local council decided to double the land rates here, that would significantly increase my rent and have a significant impact on my life, and I would be very bothered. If the council of Coolville, Ohio (it does exist) decided to raise the land taxes, or whatever Merkins pay ongoing for land, then that wouldn't bother me at all. I am irreligious, in that I don't care about religion one way or another, so that doesn't offend me. As to the effect it would have on others though... Pup
- If taxes in Coolville, Ohio were raised, it might bother me that people were being taxed unfairly (unless the tax was fair, then I wouldn't care). But this is just a picture. Of course it matters to some people. Some people would take it very seriously. But it doesn't matter. Whether the image is there or not, the sun will still rise tomorrow, Muslims will still be able to feed their families, worship Allah and pray five times a day, and do their thing in general. It doesn't infringe on anyone's rights and it doesn't change a thing in the cosmic sense. --Pleb SYNDROME CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!) 03:35, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
- I'm just making an illustration about perspective. Although I will point out a couple of things here:
- If taxes in Coolville, Ohio were raised, it might bother me that people were being taxed unfairly (unless the tax was fair, then I wouldn't care). But this is just a picture. Of course it matters to some people. Some people would take it very seriously. But it doesn't matter. Whether the image is there or not, the sun will still rise tomorrow, Muslims will still be able to feed their families, worship Allah and pray five times a day, and do their thing in general. It doesn't infringe on anyone's rights and it doesn't change a thing in the cosmic sense. --Pleb SYNDROME CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!) 03:35, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
- I am a bit of a fence sitter here. I have no personal issue with the original image. I don't think it was hugely funny but it was offensive and murky legally/ethically. More cons than pros, basically. The first image I uploaded to this site was of Pope Benny XVI being fellated (as a fairly poor potatochop). But I also think of it this way - if my local council decided to double the land rates here, that would significantly increase my rent and have a significant impact on my life, and I would be very bothered. If the council of Coolville, Ohio (it does exist) decided to raise the land taxes, or whatever Merkins pay ongoing for land, then that wouldn't bother me at all. I am irreligious, in that I don't care about religion one way or another, so that doesn't offend me. As to the effect it would have on others though... Pup
- Separately, and as though it mattered, I take WHY?'s side in the above squabble with Syndrome. That "people [are bothered] over something that doesn't matter" means your values differ from theirs. That is not necessarily a laughing matter, but something you must consider--whether they are your readers or your colleagues here--unless you are always right. Spıke ¬ 01:54 12-Nov-09
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It's not a matter of human rights. A human also has the right to not be exposed to things they do not feel at ease with. Sure, an image isn't as bad as being strangled unconscious, raped and driven to attempt suicide only to find out in the hospital after they've pumped your stomach that you were pregnant and the painkillers and alcohol killed your unborn daughter, but it's still offensive to a whole lot of individuals.
You're blowing the entire thing waaay out of proportion. The preceding comment is unsigned, and being that this is my talk page I'd like to leave it that way - POTR
- Sorry for the revert but you managed to wipe out a substantial amount of the preceding conversation. Actually, it is a matter of the right of an individual to practice their religion as they see fit, as well as the right for someone to be free to express themselves and their opinion. What has made this a debate rather than a straight forward decision by admin is simply that there are two conflicting rights, and one of them has to give way. I would rather have the minority offended (ie, those that want to see that image) than the majority (ie, those that feel that religious icons and/or the image of Muhammad should be sacrosanct). Pup
Agree that we've blown it out of proportion, but I love to debate, so unfortunately, here are more quibbles: (1) I agree with Syndrome that the existence of an offensive image matters not a bit in the cosmic sense, but that wasn't my point; given a person to whom it does matter, you ought to consider his values rather than hold the difference to be inherently laughable. (2) P-dog, there is absolutely no human right to avoid exposure to unpleasant things. This is Earth, a mess of people with different values, some of them pushy, bossy, and deadly. What I hope you mean to say is that users of this site have an expectation not to confront unpleasant things here, an expectation we support to maintain the desirability of the site. (3) Regarding your final point, I am happy to trash any sacred religious icon, provided there is a clear comedy reason for doing so. I only voted against the gratuitous insult to a group. Spıke ¬ 13:05 12-Nov-09
- Separately, Section 8 of my talk page, where you describe your additional recent work, ought to live at the end of Forum:CSS background-image, but I'm not able to edit it. Can you? Spıke ¬ 13:17 12-Nov-09
- Good point, but it being archived... I'll see if I can get an admin to sort it for us. Pup
it's time to a-a-a-a-archive![edit source]
let's put the entire issue behind our backs and get on with our uncylives. • • • • 13:21, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
A small favour[edit source]
Hi puppy. When you're not getting verbally abused by people who enjoy perusing images of religious prophets performing oral sex, do you mind reading the last section of my Keanu Reeves rewrite and telling me whether its funny or not. Just had it pee-reviewed, and did all the changes it required, except I wasn't too sure about removing the "REstraining Order" section, because I thought it was clever, but I can also see how it could just be really dumb. So thought I'd get a second opinion. I can get someone else to do it if you're busy though, but I (and apparently 40 other users now) know that you don't pull any punches.
And also, I noticed you're rewriting Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and that lead me on to check the entry for Angel, which is also in need of a rewrite, so before I did it, I thought I'd check if you were planning on doing it before I started.
thnx again --Matfen 15:00, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
- I'll go through Keanu soon. I'm actually thinking that I'll go through a review from my end as well. This is a good thing and a bad thing; It will give you plenty of direction that you can move through and be very detailed. I will also criticise every last aspect of this that I don't think is golden.
- Regarding the Buffyverse stuff, I've trawled through Uncyclopedia to see what Buffy related articles I can find, and have the following.
| Monsters | Writers | Actors | Characters |
|---|---|---|---|
| Locations | Spin-offs | Nonsense | |
- Now of this I'm happy to use it all except the stuff I've categorised as nonsense, because those were just too stupid to be true. I only have about half the main cast and characters, and nothing on Sunnydale. I'll keep the article as factually accurate as I can - similar to Street Fighter in that regard, and structure it as follows:
- Introduction (Table of contents to the right?)
- Movie (introduce Joss Whedon)
- Plot
- Main characters
- Cast
- TV series
- Series One
- Plot
- Main characters
- Cast
- Series two
- Plot
- New characters
- New cast
- Series three
- Series One
- ...
- ...
- ...
- Series seven
- Plot
- New characters
- New cast
- Series seven
- Of course working in Angel: The Series where it starts off at the end of Season three, and Buffy: Chaos Bleeds and Life After Buffy: The Musical as See Also. Now all I need to do is work out what I'm going to use as an angle on it and I'll be fine.
- So this is a fairly long answer to a simple question. The reality is although I would love to have a cohesive series of Buffy articles, I don't want to get bogged down to doing it all. So I'm happy to keep this one fairly straight forward, and any of the articles that we have at the moment about anything Buffy I'll link in, but I'm not changing any of them. If we do get a few of the gaps filled in then I might look at a Buffy Portal, but that will be a fair while away, as I'm not working towards that as such myself.Pup
Moved from above - Drama on IRC[edit source]
Gee, I missed all the drama on IRC. Thank Goddess! King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 19:54, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
- IRC? What is this IRC of which you speak? Pup
- Heck if I know. I missed it. Some sort of talk thing where people threw mashed potatoes at each other or something. King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 07:03, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
Wait wait[edit source]
You actually have a litter? I thought you were just joking about being a father... Do you suppose the ladies would like me too if I were gay? --Pleb SYNDROME CUN medicate (butt poop!!!!) 06:38, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
- Yep. Three whelps. Pup
- Say, does that mean I'm an uncle? Now I can be Uncle Father WHY??? 07:08, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
- No, that would make me a cousin-father, wouldn't it? King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 07:09, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
- Oh don't get attached, they're ginger. One's a conservative too. And his youngest is gay. Also women hate me. I don't know why but they all seem to think I'm leering at them. Or I least I think it looks like I'm always leering. When I'm not even interested anyway because they're all disgusting -- I mean, they bleed, like every month. And they don't die. It's a bit like a freekshow -- I can't help but look. Orian57 Talk
10:11 13 November 2009
- Oh don't get attached, they're ginger. One's a conservative too. And his youngest is gay. Also women hate me. I don't know why but they all seem to think I'm leering at them. Or I least I think it looks like I'm always leering. When I'm not even interested anyway because they're all disgusting -- I mean, they bleed, like every month. And they don't die. It's a bit like a freekshow -- I can't help but look. Orian57 Talk
- No, that would make me a cousin-father, wouldn't it? King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 07:09, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
That sig you made[edit source]
Remember that? I'm goin to use as it is so cool!--- 
18:00, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
Fair enough.[edit source]
Ape did not upload the image in question to the wiki; it is displayed via an external source. He is therefore not in violation of Wikia's upload policy and therefore does not deserve to be blocked. --Andorin Kato 11:29, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
- I already responded on your talk page as I didn't really want to leave it with that curt message. But I am a little protective of Uncyclopedia, same as you, and that image has already done enough damage. If an admin looks at it and agrees with you, then I'll let it drop, but I felt obligated to protect what I cared about. Pup PS - my sig on your talk page makes me feel like a ghost.
You're going on Hiatus? Really?[edit source]
You're going on Hiatus? Really? King of the Internet Alden Loveshade??? (royal court) 05:37, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
- Starting a new job tomorrow so I'm going to be only here in a very vague sense going forward for a while. Pup