Uncyclopedia:VFH/George W. Bush's Hurricane Machine

Article: George W. Bush's Hurricane Machine	Score: 6 hurricane machines made by Presidents who hate black people
Nominated by:	Nameable • mumble? • (UnScr:PWotM) 19:25, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
For: 19	I found this very funny. Nameable • mumble? • (UnScr:PWotM) 19:25, 20 July 2009 (UTC) Self-For. Finally, someone other than me nominated one of my articles! Hurray! And, for the record, it's meant to be written in a barely-literate sort of way. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 21:19, 20 July 2009 (UTC) For. We don't have nearly enough satire from a right-wing perspective. -- round Ape (google) (Riot Porn) 12:59, 21 July 2009 (UTC) For Changed my mind. Its a womans prerogative. Dame GUN PotY WotM 2xPotM 17xVFH VFP Poo PMS •YAP• 15:02, 21 July 2009 (UTC) For It is funny, Staircase CUN^t 18:16, 21 July 2009 (UTC) For. Sir Groovester \| Contributions \| Talk Page 18:35, 21 July 2009 (UTC) For. 208.102.104.162 22:08, 21 July 2009 (UTC) for. obama will suffer some stiff competition, i hear sarah palin is already campainging hard for the 2010 election. SirGerrycheeversGunTalk 19:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC) Strong For. This is... hilarious! • • • Necropaxx (T) {~} 20:27, Jul 22 Dig! Satire, ladies and gentlemen. --THINKER 08:19, 24 July 2009 (UTC) For with an addendum that Romartus is the worst voter ever TKFU U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U UU U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U CK 08:21, 24 July 2009 (UTC) 4 also, I second TKFeck. Lieutenant THEDUDEMAN Dude ... Totally UOTM KUN GotA F@H 08:34, 24 July 2009 (UTC) For. I was gonna silent abstain, but I have to second THEDUDEMAN seconding TKF. Romartus, you kinda suck. -OptyC Sucks! CUN17:02, 24 Jul Why's everyone hating on Romartus? —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 17:07, 24 July 2009 (UTC) I got nothing but love for everybody (except that OptyC fellow, he's an ass) but as somebody far wiser than me once said: "Romartus is the worst voter ever". I wish I could remember who said it and where... -OptyC Sucks! CUN17:12, 24 Jul for I have actually seen something like this. It is the voice that makes this work so well. As well as seconding that OptyC comment about that OptyC fellow, calling him, a bit of "an ass," but adding the additional comment, "but a cute one." Woody On Fire! Talking Woody Stalking Woody 20:12, 24 July 2009 (UTC) For. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 09:17, 26 July 2009 (UTC) For. Mr N 03:43, Jul 27 Strong For. One look at this and I knew I would fall in love with it. ~~Sir Fightstar Rocks! CUN 12:31, 28 July 2009 (UTC) For. Oh, satire. --UU - natter 15:19, Jul 29 For Obama. --S0.S0S.0S.0S0 03:15, 30 July 2009 (UTC) For. 201.229.46.100 07:34, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Against: 13	~~Not just no, but Hell NO. Dame GUN PotY WotM 2xPotM 17xVFH VFP Poo PMS •YAP• 19:51, 20 July 2009 (UTC)~~ Against. As much as i like your writing this is too blatant for my likings Sir ACROLO KUN • FPW • AOTM • FA •(SPAM) 05:59, 21 July 2009 (UTC) Against. *Style* *Guide* 18:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC) Against. --Docile hippopotamus 06:17, 22 July 2009 (UTC) Against. I question its humor Alexander the Great 10:32, 24 July 2009 (UTC) Against. I agree with Acrolo, because having my own opinion is too much work ChiefjusticeDS 11:34, 24 July 2009 (UTC) Against. Has a good concept and obviously a competent author, but it's far too fragmented and confused for my taste. Unsolicited conversation Extravagant beauty PEEING 03:27, 25 July 2009 (UTC) Against. First person narrative - Otherwise a good concept and funny, but just not encyclopaedic enough. Pup t 01:27, 28/07/2009 Against. I don't like Bush either, but this is just pointless Bush bashing. InMooseWeTrust 15:37, 29 July 2009 (UTC) It seems somebody missed the point. Read it again, but think about what this article says about the kid writing this thing instead of what the kid says about Bush. You'll find that there is no actual Bush bashing within this article. Sir Groovester \| Contributions \| Talk Page 22:41, 29 July 2009 (UTC) Against. –Flashfreez 01:02, 30 July 2009 (UTC) Against. This didn't seem very funny to me, but the idea could potentially go somewhere. *Sir* Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • CUN) 05:48, Jul. 31, 2009 Against. as per POTR. It's good but not feature worthy. The idea could probably be taken into a different direction -- preferably one that doesn't look like a racist school report. This concept also seems to be VERY similar to Fidel Castro's Hurricane Cannon (which should probably be deleted). Also, you didn't mention the location of Bush's hurricane machine, which is obviously in Cuba. But at any rate, this is a joke that is too many years too late. The Kanye West bit is no longer funny, and certainly was not and is not funny enough for a whole article to be based upon. --EMC^[TALK] 19:07, 31 July 2009 (UTC) Against The Hurricane Machine section was just completely devoid of humour, excluding the last line where he said he planted a tree (which was actually the funniest part of the article, in my opinion), but especially the welfare check part and the paragraph about Jackie Robinson's home runs (Though that part could be made funny by asserting that Jamal doesn't know who Jim Crow was, but he thinks he was probably a MLB commissioner at the time who tried to prevent Jackie Robinson from playing, but he did, anyway.). Also, I think Jamal should suggest selling the machine to Iran, since they could use it to prevent terrorists from Iraq from invading their country. Also, I have to agree that it's a joke way past it's prime (even during it's time it wasn't very funny). Also, the first picture looks kind of like one of my friends. Yes, I do have actual friends. MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 19:39, 31 July 2009 (UTC) Also, I think it should say "Neo-Nazi" and not just "Nazi." Just saying. MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 19:55, 31 July 2009 (UTC) Against. Not funny :( -- El Sid, the lazy one • parlez-vous franglais? 16:55, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Comments	Abstain. I do understand that this is a bit of devil's advocacy from Guildy but the weakness is the description behind how this hurricane machine actually works and the absurdity of the concept. This really is its weak 'eye' and therefore doesn't propel it enough for me to be a VFH as it currently stands. --*RomArtusImperator ® (Orate). 06:17, 21 July 2009 (UTC) What happens is he talks into a big bag until it's full of hot air, goes up in air force one, and opens the bag. The low pressure from the hot air blows hard on a vertical plane which causes an updraft that starts to spiral in a clockwise manner (anti-clockwise in the southern hemisphere) and as a result causes hurricanes. I though that bit was obvious. Pup t 01:32, 28/07/2009 Extremely conflicted abstain. This article is absurdly racist. The question I kept chewing over is: "Does the author think it's funny because he's a racist and he laughs at the truth of the piece; or, does the author think it's funny because he thinks racism is often absurd and he's satirizing the kind of absurdly racist thing one might write if one were a racist; or, does the author just think racism is funny in a 'for the lulz' kind of way where expressing racist sentiments on the Internet is funny because people's reactions to it are funny"? It was a question that spanned an entire paragraph, and by the time I got done thinking it, I couldn't remember whether the article was funny or not. P.S.: I think I just stole Romartus's "worst voter ever" merit badge. pillow talk 00:02, 30 July 2009 (UTC) This isn't racist. I think you've missed the point. This interweaves a lot of different things, but one of the main things it parodies is the tendency among certain black people (the uninformed segments) to racialize everything. An archetypical example is Kanye West's comments that Bush doesn't like black people (and hence didn't respond effectively to Katrina, which is taken to an absurd extreme here). -- round Ape (google) (Riot Porn) 00:35, 30 July 2009 (UTC) No, it's absurdly racist. The narrator doesn't just have a tendency to racialize things: he's also painfully stupid, willing to believe anything he hears, and ridiculously ignorant about both politics and science. And the article concludes with a suggestion that our society encourages black people to be stupid, gullible and ignorant. The implication is that blacks are a group of morons who we're afraid to educate because we're too P.C. to disagree with their moronic conspiracy theories. Yeah. Racist. But I don't really care that it's racist: I've written plenty of racist things on Uncyc myself. What I can't put my finger on is whether the racism detracts from the humor, or whether it feels like it has an agenda other than making me laugh. pillow talk 00:48, 30 July 2009 (UTC) Um, no. There are stupid black people. It is not racist to portray one. -- round Ape (google) (Riot Porn) 01:32, 30 July 2009 (UTC) It's not just about one stupid black person. Jamaal's parents are portrayed as being as ignorant as he is, and the "honors student" and "scholarship to Yale" bits suggest that blacks who are given honors are far, far dumber than whites who are given the same honors. Also, you might take note of the fact that Guildy actually put the article in Category:Racism. pillow talk 20:28, 30 July 2009 (UTC) Actually on that side of things I didn't consider the skin colour of the narrator. It seemed to me more than anything else to encapsulate the stupidity of people in general, and the whole scholarship thing showing how the education system is dumbing down in general. Race didn't even factor in my reading of it. Pup t 21:05, 30/07/2009 Then I think you completely missed the point of the article. pillow talk 22:59, 30 July 2009 (UTC) I guess we all saw something different in it. -- round Ape (google)** (Riot Porn) 23:13, 30 July 2009 (UTC) The fact that Guildy actually tagged it "Racism" suggests that what I saw was closer to what he intended. pillow talk 23:30, 30 July 2009 (UTC) Yes, but not necessarily Guildy's racism. It could be referring to Jamaal. -- round Ape (google) (Riot Porn) 00:30, 31 July 2009 (UTC) If I had to make a guess, I'd say that the article actually attempts to show us that both sides of racism (racism against whites and racism against blacks) are stupid and absurd. The scholarship bit at the end is just there as an anticlimax for humorous effect. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 19:54, 31 July 2009 (UTC) Author's Comment. Yikes, I'm gone for a day and a half and this is what happens? Egh. Anyway, my own interpretation is close to what Ape is saying, with me also taking jabs and the public education system. As for race, yes, that does factor into it, but mostly this article is me (attempting to) play off certain black people's tendency to racialize everything. So yeah. For the record, I'm not a racist. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 02:31, 1 August 2009 (UTC) Another Author's Comment. This should be an automatic front page, for being so thought provoking (it's obviously done a lot more in the way of discussion than most other articles). —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 02:38, 1 August 2009 (UTC) I disagree. I don't think this is stimulating discussion at all Pup t 02:52, 1/08/2009 Yeah, I'm not at all aroused. MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 02:54, 1 August 2009 (UTC) Please enter counter argument below this line Author's Awaited Counter-Argument. Well, I don't see other VFH pages with arguments over article interpretation going on. The fact that this even causes such a discussion is a good thing. Also, I don't think either of you are that enthralled because you weren't taking part in said conversation. Also, I've consigned myself to the fact that this will almost certainly fail, so whatever. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 01:16, 2 August 2009 (UTC) Guildy, you realize some IP wrote "George Bush is a Nazi" in between every paragraph, correct? Highlight the text (or just edit it) to see what I mean, in case you didn't already know (though I mentioned it up where I did my against vote, which provided a few ideas of how to make this better). MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 01:56, 2 August 2009 (UTC) Haha, that's kinda funny. Leave it in. -- round Ape (google) (Riot Porn) 02:11, 2 August 2009 (UTC) ahem! Pup t 02:22, 2/08/2009 Yeah, I changed that whole "Nazi" thing. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 15:20, 2 August 2009 (UTC)