User talk:Nzicednz
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Part Maori[edit source]
I've had to undo those revisions, as they seem to be taking the article in directions that was from clever satire to outright racist slurs. Racism is not funny by itself, even though funny can be racist. I'm happy to get you a copy of the changes you made if you would like them back, but I'd prefer you read HTBFANJS before editing that again, or a few of our Best of articles. Nominally Humane! 06:43 26 Apr
- In regards to revert wars - if you dislike what another author has done to an article, don't revert them - better instead to talk to an admin. A list of current admins is here. The most active users is here and you'll find that the ones towards the top of the list have been here for a while. Nominally Humane! 09:17 26 Apr
- I can't disagree with what you are saying any more Puppy. You are wrong. You should have used the talk page. ... Nzicednz you created this article and puppy was wrong to RV you. Puppy you should NOT under any circumstances be telling users not to revert edits. Every user here is the same, and if you think something is wrong, change it. If you get into a revert war... Then stop and talk to the person using talk pages, or use a better message in your edit summary. MrN 09:50, Apr 26
- Very well. I think the later edits made to this page have drawn it from what could be a good page of satire to a fairly bland article filled with racist slurs that would be better off on ED. I've added a fix tag to it, as it had promise at the start and I think there is enough work on this that it is outside of the ICU category. I hope that you'll actually review the edits that I undid to see why it was that I undid them. I am happy to admit I could be wrong on an article - I have been before. But I'll back off and let you complete it, and hopefully improve it. Please read HTBFANJS, as I asked earlier on your talk page. Nominally Humane! 10:04 26 Apr
- Wow guys, first of all, I do not appreciate the reverting and random removal of some pieces. I have not aimed, or strived for racism whatsoever. I have just noticed someone removed the recipes section I and another user had written, totally unfair as it was funny, to myself and a large group of people whom I personally know and have read this. I showed this to my work mates two days ago, whom I might add are MOSTLY part Maori's and they absolutely loved it. While I agree there are some things that need changing, and this will happen, I haven't seen anything overtly obscene in this article. Some help please? I really am a bit bewildered as to why that recipe section was removed, and instead of being childish, I will let an admin decide whether or not it can stay. I will say though, that I have seen on many race based articles I have seen this, so I can't really see the problem myself. As stated, this is an article in progress and I do aim for it to be a goodie... Thanks guys, nzicednz....
- Cool dude. Here is the page history. I am an admin, so I hope you will trust my opinion. I can probably clear this whole thing up by saying the issue here is not about racism, we don't mind that. It's about being funny. Simply being racist alone without any other humour value is only funny to the small minority of people who actually for whatever reason hate that race. Everyone else just thinks it's boring to read. As we have to cater for most readers most of the time we have to draw a line somewhere. Your article is close to that line. PuppyOnTheRadio thinks it's past it. It this was nominated for VFD now, it might not survive, but I'm hoping you can improve it. As per the recipe list... That again was nothing to do with racism. I removed it because it sucked, and made the article look a lot worse. We have a style and layout we try to stick to and the way you did it was nasty and ugly and there was actually not humour value there at all. So it's not really me deciding if "it can stay" or not. I don't care about the racism, I care about the lack of funny. The whole article is currently still right on the edge of being deleted. Again... Not because it's racist, but because it's racist without putting enough effort into being funny also. If you want to make a better article (I hope you do) I honestly recommend you read some of HTBFANJS and BGBU. It will help. If you have any other issues just ask . Another way to think about it is... "Could this racist joke apply to any race?" if it's stupid and childish then probably yes. If it's actually funny then probably not. MrN 03:47, Apr 27
- Wow guys, first of all, I do not appreciate the reverting and random removal of some pieces. I have not aimed, or strived for racism whatsoever. I have just noticed someone removed the recipes section I and another user had written, totally unfair as it was funny, to myself and a large group of people whom I personally know and have read this. I showed this to my work mates two days ago, whom I might add are MOSTLY part Maori's and they absolutely loved it. While I agree there are some things that need changing, and this will happen, I haven't seen anything overtly obscene in this article. Some help please? I really am a bit bewildered as to why that recipe section was removed, and instead of being childish, I will let an admin decide whether or not it can stay. I will say though, that I have seen on many race based articles I have seen this, so I can't really see the problem myself. As stated, this is an article in progress and I do aim for it to be a goodie... Thanks guys, nzicednz....
- Very well. I think the later edits made to this page have drawn it from what could be a good page of satire to a fairly bland article filled with racist slurs that would be better off on ED. I've added a fix tag to it, as it had promise at the start and I think there is enough work on this that it is outside of the ICU category. I hope that you'll actually review the edits that I undid to see why it was that I undid them. I am happy to admit I could be wrong on an article - I have been before. But I'll back off and let you complete it, and hopefully improve it. Please read HTBFANJS, as I asked earlier on your talk page. Nominally Humane! 10:04 26 Apr
- I can't disagree with what you are saying any more Puppy. You are wrong. You should have used the talk page. ... Nzicednz you created this article and puppy was wrong to RV you. Puppy you should NOT under any circumstances be telling users not to revert edits. Every user here is the same, and if you think something is wrong, change it. If you get into a revert war... Then stop and talk to the person using talk pages, or use a better message in your edit summary. MrN 09:50, Apr 26
"Too long, didn't read."[edit source]
For the sake of conciseness, this is basically what those two clowns ^ just said:
- "hi, we like you but your page sucks." "And you're racist!" "Hey, quit reverting the user." "No, you quit reverting the user!" "No, you quit reverting me!" "Hey, quit shoving!" "You started it!" "Nuh-uh! You started it!"
So, uh, yeah. I would recommend that you have your article moved to your userspace, where it can avoid deletion, and you can work on it in peace. (Usually.) And then, when you're done, ask somebody if you can move it back to the "main space", or else get a "Pee Review". (See, it's like wikipedia's "Peer Review", but it has the word "Pee" in it because "pee" is funny and that's how we roll. Hahaha. We rock.)
Also, welcome to the wiki, have fun, enjoy your stay, don't get discouraged, and all that. Cheers. ~ Fri, Apr 27 '12 5:00 (UTC)