Talk:2020 United States presidential election controversies

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Scoring for Happy Monkey 2021 Competition[edit source]

(see full scores here)

Scores and review from Shabidoo[edit source]

Originality: 6/10

There was a little bit of originality but there are a lot of articles that narrate the world the other way around. There was one clear concept running through the article, basically the opposite of reality, which is a fun concept to use but it’s not the most original.

Creativity: 8/10

I give you high points for creativity, a lot of clever phrases and cultural references placed just at the right time. The banning Trump for his own well being was very creative. Very creative use of images.

Humour: 6/10

The over all tone of the article is funny and there are some humerous moments, though there was only one laugh out loud moment which was:

  • Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg later released the exact same statement, taking full credit for himself of course.

Other funny moments were:

  • So to challenge Trump, they sent an old, rich, white, stupid, racist sexual predator
  • then I’ve got some premo Florida swampland to sell you.

Total 20/30 20 is a good score for happy monkey.

Final Score: 20/30
Suggestions:

I find it always good to have a general concept infused into the article and I don't consider "writing the opposite of what's true" to be a concept per se but is just a tool for writing. There are many concepts which you could have used such as something to do with Trump (perhaps a play on his constant deception), Biden (his forgetfulness) or the Rivalry between the two (trump saying whatever stupid shit he likes and Biden trying to bite his tongue). Other concepts could be the stupidity of the American electorate. One idea that is more in keeping with the controversies is the general apathy of the American electorate. Each section could show something outrageous or super controversial but then sort of petering out because Americans don't care enough in large numbers to keep their attention on any one topic. There could be many ways to deliver on this.

There are many cases where you set up something interesting and then sort of move on. Buttigieg is a case in example. I was expecting something really creative and/or unexpected to happen but after a couple sentences you moved on. It's always a good idea when you seem to be setting something up to bring it up to a new dimension. What happened to him? Why did he drop out? If you were to have an overarching concept in the article how would that fit in? Did he get distracted by his gay lover? Did the QAnon conspiracy some how eat him? Did he never actually exist in reality? Something even more clever than that? Another example would be Biden spending so long in office. Why not give a few funny examples of things he's done and the dirt he has on people? How about a joke on how he will never die or how the dirt he has on people gives him magical powers that will keep him alive forever. Voter fraud is another case where you could have gone somewhere and probably should. Why not give examples of actual voter fraud (perhaps something absurd like millions of poor Canadians being paid by Biden to travel to Michigan to vote?). How about cases in those states where you can walk in and vote and mechanisms to actually take advantage of that? How about kindergarten children taking advantage of it. With social media you could highlight some collusion with Zuckerberg (in someone's corner) or their nefarious desire to control all narratives. As I've said, you set up some funny ideas but you move on so quickly to the next thing, you don't take advantage of opportunities to take it to a hilarious or absurd level.

One thing I noticed is that you tend to get a little off topic when it comes to controversies. For example how is Buttigieg related to controveries? Or Biden having dirt on people? It's great to mention these things but the topic is controversies, not the election so add controversy if there aren't any or turn them into controverseys.

This is a good article and you certainly have the stuff to make one that is featurable. I highly recommend adding a larger concept, expanding it and developing the material you have taking many features to a higher level.

Scores and review from Sarah_Baldewijns[edit source]

Originality 7/10

Creativity 8/10

Humour 8/10

Total= 23/30

Comment: I particularly liked the false claims of voter fraud and the peaceful protest at the Capitol paragraphs. The picture of Biden with the wax sculpture caption is very funny.

Scores and review from JJPMaster[edit source]

Originality 5/10

Creativity 8/10

Humour 6/10

Comment: This one is quite, or should I say very, funny! The jokes themselves were quite funny, but I believed that they were somewhat repetitive, albeit canceled out by the actual funniness of them. I might just steal this article for RationalWiki, because it clearly would fit there.

Scores and review from Cassie[edit source]

Originality 4/10

Comment:It's not perfect, by any means; however, I am nonetheless acknowledging that the topic of the 2020 USA presidential elections. I think that this article does "turn the topic on its head" pretty well, but granted, I was kind of expecting something like this when first reading this.

Creativity 6/10

Comment: Fair enough. There isn't much I would say concerning this article's creativity; this article does demonstrate a clear "acknowledgement" of the capabilities of MrX, as an author.

Humour 8/10

Comment:Classic, simple "turn on your head" humor. There isn't much to say, except that it did give me a good laugh. The interpretation of Twitter banning Trump is definitely this article's best moment.

Total= 18/30

Total Score: 80/120

Articular transition of 2020 United States presidential election controversies[edit source]

@Shabidoo: @Sarah_Baldewijns: @JJPMaster: @Cassie: hey guys, thanks for taking the time to put together and judge this comp! It was a lot of fun, I've got another Participant Ribbon proudly displayed in my trophy case,[1] and I really like the feedback I've gotten here. I definitely plan to expand and develop it in the near future. I invite you and anyone else who wants to feel free to help with that. I'm definitely gonna use a bunch of the ideas here, though probably not all, at least not exactly as written. For example, I think saying that Biden has magical powers to keep him alive forever is a little too out there for this type of article. But saying that QAnon, Chrumpanzees, Creationists, etc. are accusing Biden of having magical powers or engaging in witchcraft or something could be perfect! Anyway, the expansion and development is something I can def do by myself (again, tho, please feel free to jump in), but I would love to see what you guys and everyone else thinks about this:

As I said at Monk's Café, I'm thinking that the best thing to do might actually be to merge this into United States presidential election, 2020. As it stands, it kind of does read like an incomplete overview of the election as a whole, not just the controversies necessarily. With a few minor tweaks, I think this article can work as the election article. Then the expansion and development can continue. The only thing that would need to be a little more significantly reworked is the voter fraud section. I wanna keep what EMC put in about voter fraud being real and Kanye West winning in a landslide. It's something we had discussed on Discord, and I'm gonna hit him up on his talk page too. Also, while we definitely don't need an article for every US presidential election, we should have solid articles for 2016 and 2020, and I think this is the best way to beef up the 2020 article. But if everyone thinks that it would be best to keep the articles separate, then that's cool too. Let me know what you think, and thanks again! MrX blow me Emoji-drool.gif 22:04, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Ok, so I've moved this to main space. I do intend to expand this baby in the very near future (but please, anyone and everyone should feel welcome to do so as well). I've got 2 other ideas that I want to create in my user space for now to get the creative juices flowing. I still think it would be best to merge this with the article about the election, but I guess we can see what happens with the expansion first. Cheers. MrX blow me Emoji-drool.gif 13:29, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
  1. FUCK YEAH!