User talk:ChiknSpectre
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I stated (in the Change Summary) why I changed that headline on Phyllis Schlafly: It originally sounded like it was going to score some points by ridiculing this notorious conservative--that is, use UnNews for a political agenda. I Googled her recent work and changed the item to try to make it relate to a column she wrote this week--that is, make it satire and not just a hatchet-job. If you are going to revert me, you ought to also state why. You are in the habit of adding items that reflect whatever odd idea occurs to you. In my opinion, the point of this feature is to take some news event in reality that it seems easy to crack wise with and suggest it to newbies who lack a theme. Spıke ¬ 23:18 7-Apr-12
- You didn't google it well enough then, Sport. Cast your eyes on this from Right Wing Watch: The spelling errors are probably hers
- P.S. Obama is a dictator. Love, Phyllis Schlafly
Submitted by Peter Montgomery on Fri, 04/06/2012 - 3:03pm
- Here's an addition to our recap of right-wing direct mail, this time from Phyllis Schlafly, the long-time anti-feminist and all-around right wing activist. Like most of the other recent mail, the letter from Schlafly is about raising money with over-the-top rhetoric about the tyranny being visited upon America by President Obama. "He's taken control of your healthcare and stolen your money. Now he wants to dictate to your church," warns the envelope. "Stop Obama's War on Faith." Inside, more of the same:
- The culture of dicatorship is rearing its ugly head. The forcef of imperial government and totalitarian treatment of American citizens are growing stronger every day.
- Under the guise of "health care" and "tolerance" and "equality," Barack Obama is using all the power he can grasp in order to control how we live and what we believe. He is exploiting eveyr legal and illegal loophole to consolidate government power into his own hands.
- He's trying to control our standard of living by restricting our energy use. Hey's trying to control them inds of our children by imposing a national curriculum in the schools. And now, he's using his hated ObamaCare health law to assault religious liberty....
- Let there be no doubt about it. Barack Obama is at war with the vast majority of Americans who believe in God and the freedom to worship. Now it the time for you and me to stand up for religious liberty....
- If Obama wins this battle and gets his way, religiously affiliated hospitals, schools, colleges, and charities all over America will be forced to pay for abortion drugs, sterilization procedures, and contraceptives.
- If Obama gets by with thisk you can be sure that the next steps will be ordering priests, ministers and rabbis to perform same-sex marriages. God will be stripped out of the Pledge of Allegiance and "In God We Trust" will be banished to the dustbin of history."
No, I didn't see that one. I question how many other people did either. But it's not funny; it's just Schlafly. It's what she does, always. It is polemics. (But the issues she complains about are real: Forced payment for "abortion drugs" is a current issue nationally, and a "right of conscience" for priests not to marry gays is in the legislature here in New Hampshire, where we passed gay marriage two years ago.)
In short, Schlafly is a right-wing extremist. Left-wingers will fight her with caricature. Humor using caricature is at the same time trite and easily confused for real advocacy. (Likewise mocking Arabs-versus-Jews and stuff like that.) What I did was get her most recent column and got playful with it; I claim that's funnier. Spıke ¬ 22:03 8-Apr-12
- You need to sign your comments ChiknSpectre, even on your own talk page. Thanks. --RomArtus*Imperator ® (Orate) 17:12, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
- I thought it was funnier to say what she actually said in the context of a humor page. Who would believe it, but it's true! Saying she was a transvestite was well, she deserves it and it makes it funny for those who haven't seen the above article. Saying feminists are pretty though, I don't get that one.
Well, here is what I think. You thought you would ridicule Schlafly by posting "what she actually said." Not "in the context of a humor page" but using a humor page to ridicule her opinions without the chore of using cleverness to add humor. That is using this site for partisan propaganda rather than humor, on the assumption that everyone who disagrees with you is just hilarious.
On my transformation of your headline: That she said feminists are pretty is not the joke; it was a remark in the column she wrote last week that I Googled. The joke is that she can't believe she said it, and thus enters therapy. (There is a way to segue this into that time that she got herpes.) But I will take your point and remove my version as well. Spıke ¬ 04:12 11-Apr-12
- I was not thinking that just what she said was the joke. I was how she said it, the way she said it, the intensity that the used in saying it that made it the joke. Look at it again you and you'll clearly she she was going around the twist with this one. She worked herself up into a real lather before she had finished.
Spike forgot to sign his post - shamey shamey
- Sigh* Someone else thinking they understand my motives and being just as invariably wrong. No, I thought what she said was genuinely funny and I thought other people would agree. People don't always agree with my sense of humor but I've gotten past caring about that anymore. I just post whenever some new thought makes me laugh, or as in this case when someone famous says something truly stupid. That's pretty much the beginning and the end of it. --((User:ChiknSpectre 05:16 CDST, April 11, 2012, Earth
I did not forget to sign anything; you forgot to indent. This and your accusation of doing something that an Admin just upbraided you for suggests that I wrote something that you wrote. Now, Minitrue--and Uncyclopedia--is not a catalog of external events and utterances you find "genuinely funny" (that is, ridiculous), but a place to create humor. Minitrue, in particular, is a place to give new users hints at easy ways to do it. I don't find anything in this latest post that changes my impression that all you set out to do is ridicule, or get a new user to ridicule, someone you think is ridiculous on the basis of your politics, nor that my impression is either wrong or a stretch. Spıke ¬ 23:42 11-Apr-12
Well, exactly, but then how would you define humor then? It would be difficult to leave such things out, now wouldn't it? That was the admin? I wonder what it's for? And not that it's any of your business but I vote along the same lines as Bertrand Russell, Isaac Asimov and Paul Kurtz, meaning I take their ideas as my own when I vote since Mr. Kurtz is the only one still alive. "I am a lover of mankind, a humanist and an atheist" as Shelley so quaintly put it. <<<-----{{{{User:ChiknSpectre 10:37 CDST, April 11 2012 Earth
Hey, just saying. Please try to write one of the Minitrue articles if you add any. Thanks! -- This has been an automated message by Cute Zekrom (talk) 02:32, April 14, 2012 (UTC)