Uncyclopedia talk:Don't disrespect transgender identities

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• I disagree with Elliot Page, as he much better falls under the Caitlyn Jenner clause. Very notable under his former name (Juno, Inception, Hard Candy). I think mentioning it once (say, in the introduction) is fine, with or without censoring it. But censoring is a fair enough compromise.
• I disagree entirely with the last two ideas, as 1) they don't accommodate the Jenner/Page clause, and 2) it's revisionist history (which I am very much against). However, I'm not opposed to using "(sic)" in such cases. Also, Caitlyn Jenner has referred to her deadname several times post-transition, not only in interviews but in Comedy Central Roasts.

Just my two cents. But I congratulate you on dealing with this issue. PF4Eva, the President of Imagination Vote for me My tax returns 14:10, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Mostly agree. MrX blow me 19:53, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Some more notes

I agree that it's a good idea to update our articles, but let's not forget our purpose here, and let's not forget that simply mentioning the things that someone did earlier in their life is not, in and of itself, mean or disrespectful. Here are Wikipedia's openings to their Page and Jenner articles: "Elliot Page (formerly Ellen Page; born February 21, 1987..." and "Caitlyn Marie Jenner (born William Bruce Jenner;...". Both of these are fine, respectful ways to mention that someone had a different name earlier in their life. If we want to censor or completely remove the former name from a particular article, that's fine too. But I don't think we need to make any particular convention a hard and fast rule here. I think that this Uncyc page is a very good guideline for dealing with a particularly touchy issue. We're here to write comedy. 99% of the time, someone will be offended. And I don't think trans people or any people should be a protected class. That being said, we should definitely try to make sure that we're not being overly offensive or mean just for shock value. I hope my point isn't too confusing, and I'm more than happy to continue this discussion (which I assume will continue). Thanks Cassie and everyone else who has contributed here for discussing an important issue. Cheers. MrX blow me 20:08, 3 April 2021 (UTC)