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Greetings, chums. I speak on behalf an exiled user (NXWave), who would like to put his chequered past behind him and apologise for any misdemeanours. However, he is concerned that some of his contributions, in particular the audio files he created for UnNews, might impact negatively on his current and future endeavours. I am not at liberty to disclose anything further, but suffice to say it is serious enough for me to create a forum topic here for the first time in many years.

There are 34 audio files in total, mostly readings of UnNews articles, that NXWave would like removed. The full list can be provided upon request.

After much deliberation, we have decided that, in the interests of diplomacy, this matter be opened to public discussion. I would love to know your thoughts.

Please note this message has been cross-posted at the Wikia Uncyc. -- Hindleyite Converse?pedia 11:21, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Let me chime in and say that I've talked to NXWave in private conversations a number of times, and I assure you that he's sincerely remorseful for all his past dickery and all the drama he caused. He's most especially eaten alive with guilt about driving AE away. Despite being banned "and then some" until the heat death of the universe, he still reads Uncyclopedia regularly, which makes his past all the more painful whenever he's reminded of it. Adding all of this to the fact that he has, let's say, different mental functions and relatively inhibited social skills, I would appreciate it if everyone be mature about this. -- Kip the Egg Easter egg.gif Talk Easter egg.gif Works Easter egg.gif 12:10, Mar. 5, 2013

These contributions were added on the knowledge that little control of them is possible... Since the vandal in question is without doubt one of the worst we've ever had in the history of this project, I see little to no reason to engage with him let alone assist him with anything. This is also something that should not have been brought up in a forum:/Sycamore (Talk) 12:40, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

I have no problem with deleting it. --ShabiDOO 13:02, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
PurpleDickVote.svg Boner. the farther his contribs if ge wants is from the site, the better  SIR Peasewhizz de NY Biblio HOS Awards 13:28 3.05.13
I have to agree with Sycamore on this and will cite our overwhelming refusal to delete PuppyOnTheRadio's contributions as precedent. Things such as Stephen Hawking ran over my cat and the 13-year-old rap are original works which arguably still have satirical value and therefore won't be deleted. But if NXWave or those speaking on his behalf want to nominate particular uploads for VFD they are more than welcome to do that. I'll comb through more of his uploads and see what I can nominate, but "per author request" has never, by itself, been reason enough to delete something. Especially something that has been on the site for five years without being deleted. This is also a matter of self-preservation: if everything everyone regretted was allowed to be deleted from the internet there would be no porn and therefore no internet. If there would be no internet there would be no Uncyclopedia. Does NXWave not want there to be porn? --EMC [TALK] 14:44 Mar 5 2013
Agreed. He submitted it under the condition that it be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will. If he's got such a big problem with his articles, he should just tell everyone around that he'll never do any such thing again. Frankly, I find his vandal history completely irrelevant to his demands, and personally see it as a much greater threat to whatever "future endeavors" he has than anything he contributed. Lord Scofield Stark 15:35, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Oh gosh...

I hope this doesn´t turn into another Puppy on the Radio/Aimsplode thing. — Capitalis quadrata Y.SVG (talk) (contributions) 22:32, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Delete it! Delete it all! Scorched Earth!
On a serious note, though, there is a significant difference between my request and this one. My request was made upon creation of this fork and relating solely to this fork. This request is made on two sites. (Potentially three, but nobody seems to remember the mirror.) My request also included a significant number of featured articles, which while I don't like the communities decision, I understand the rationale behind it on those grounds. These articles are not features, as far as I know, and are relating purely to audio recordings. The reason for the author request is very different, and the content under discussion is very different.
As for wether I think it should be deleted - we created the precedent that we're not deleting purely upon author request any more - even though we have done so in the past. Which suggests that these inclusions need to be judged upon merit. UnNews is - by it's nature - topical and therefore transient, so the deletion of this material will probably be of minimal impact to the health of the wiki. But before a vote could be held, we should be made aware of what is at stake. So without a complete list - or individual VFD requests - I'd vote against it. Nominally Humane! 12:27 10 Mar

Yeah whatever

If he has been a total wanker, stay away from him, Hindleyite. By the way - when are you going to come back? This place has improved quite a bit lately and I think a writer of your caliber would be welcome. Whatever "caliber" means. Is it a colibri? -- Style Oranssiviiva.jpg Guide 13:07, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

I dunno about 'coming back', to either Uncyc or Illogico. I mean, I still pop in from time to time but writing a decent Uncyclopedia article is a big project. That there is an independent fork increases the chances, however. :) -- Hindleyite Converse?pedia 14:26, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Decent? Who wants decent? Come on. Let's have fun for a change. Style Oranssiviiva.jpg Guide 18:15, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

I think...

...It's hard to delete stuff if we don't know the reason. I mean, I'm in favor if he is remorseful for whatever he did and the reasons are compelling enough. But we don't really know what they are... ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) Proudly bogan 01:48, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

So, nobody knows, nobody cares. Is it OK to hijack this thread already? Style Oranssiviiva.jpg Guide 07:19, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
As clarification, the author says he would like his audio files deleted because he feels like they bring down the quality of Uncyclopedia with the reputation of the user behind them. -- Hindleyite Converse?pedia 14:21, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Files to be considered for deletion

Here's a list of everything. I'll make a point of adding it to the other discussion too.

-- Hindleyite Converse?pedia 14:21, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

I strongly recommend people actually listen to these before voting. Not to be rude, but you can barely understand what he's saying, making mass deletion less than a loss. To this day I'm not certain if NXWave speaks with a thick German accent. -- Kip the Egg Easter egg.gif Talk Easter egg.gif Works Easter egg.gif 15:05, Mar. 11, 2013
its clear some have not listened to it. I will nominate this all during forest fire next. --ShabiDOO 16:11, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Official apology

Hi. This is NXWave. I don't know if this will matter or not but fuck it, I have to try. I have been looking at myself for the past few months, I have seen things that I don't want to be associated with; things I regret like destroying my own reputation, things like driving a user away and trying to come back repeatedly. I can understand all of the hate I'm given here, I deserve it to be quite honest. My actions were not those of a model Uncyclopedian, they were those of a crazy obsessed person who couldn't get something out of his mind; to every Uncyclopedian who I've wronged over the years, I am really, really, really, really, really, really, really sorry; I don't think there is a point in time where I can ever find redemption for what I've done. I broke your trust, I ruined every chance that I ever had and I made this site into a mockery with every account that I've made.

I'm a dick, I'm a pathetic assholic dick and I want to change that, I don't want to be looking at my own past feeling bad for the things that I've done, I want to move on and do better with life. I want to make friends, enjoy life and not have to be bound to this website any longer. It was sad for me to be a dick, to have my life be a living hell; constantly making sockpuppets to evade bans, worrying about whether or not these guys were out to get me. Hell I even feel depressed as I write this letter. I want to be everyone to everything, I don't want to have people look at me and think "man, what a dick." I am tired of being a social outcast and I just want this NXWave thing to be dead and gone; I don't want to have to remember the bad stuff that I did, I don't want to be bound to this website based off of things I did in the past and I certainly don't want to feel the negative vibes I get from reading this site.

Worst part about it is, people are going to think that I'm making this up, so I can get my account unbanned; that couldn't be farther from the truth. In fact I want nothing, I deserve nothing. I don't want to dilute Uncyclopedia with the negative history that I brought upon. I don't want to be known as the guy who driven away AE, in fact mostly everyday of my life I wish for AE to come back, just so he can actually become the Uncyclopedian he was meant to be. I'm not out to reseek awards that were stripped from me for good reason, I'm not out to reintegrate myself with this community. If there was anything that I could do to prove that I'm a changed man than everything will be okay but since there isn't and since I have the image of a vandal hanging over my head, I have to make do with what I've got. I don't know if redemption will be sought for me, hell I don't even think there can be redemption for NXWave but I'm not trying to live my life to get cheap laughs or to laude my false "superiority" against people, I just want to feel at peace with this part of my history so I can move on and become a better person.

I wasn't on medication when I made those edits, I was on obsession. I'm on medication now; a combination of Zyprexa and Zoloft but still this site acts like a depressant, preventing me from getting better. I really hope I can get myself a psychiatrist so I can improve my life even further. I don't know if this is enough but I'm hoping it has to be, I want to forget about NXWave and kill him where he stands; he isn't good for my personality and he won't do any good going forward. I don't want to use my voice for Uncyclopedia any longer, I want to use it for more creative beneficial things, I don't want to have to live with the perception that I'm a worthless human being and I certainly don't want to be depressed anymore.

Thank you for reading. --174.123.0.244 02:42, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Noted. --EMC [TALK] 14:55 Apr 30 2013