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Factual Tag

One of the "rant" pages that I made was tagged recently with the "Factual" template, which says that the page has a fact, and if the fact is not removed the page may be deleted.

Rereading it, I can see a bunch of facts; essentially I like to rant, but if I do it in the real world my neighbours just call the cops. I'm like the voice of reason in an insane world, minus the reason and the voice.

Wups, started to rant there...

Is it Uncyclopedia policy that truth can't be funny, or is my take on truth not funny? I realize that it's not great, but if every page here that wasn't great was deleted...plus anyone can make it better...

Am I missing something here, or am I just a square peg that's trying to fit in a round hole? Modusoperandi 22:04, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

No, it isnt against Uncyclopedia policy. In fact, one thing in a help page says the truth is funnier then random fiction. Templates such as 'facts detected' typically are done in a joking manner, and not serious. ~Sir Rangeley GUN WotM UotM +S (talk) 04:23, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Ah, thanks. I guess that I'm just a little twitchy after russian reversal got nrv'd/voted for deletion/too much information'd...and that page was actually good. Modusoperandi 06:55, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

I have long been contemplating the idea of getting rid of the factual template. It isn't an official template and I never see it used for comic effect. It always seems like a poor insult added by people who dodn't understand jokes. ---Ven. Isra +s cun vfh vfp (commune) 22:26, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

It wasn't meant to say it's a serious problem with the page. You can go ahead and remove it from that article if you think it makes it worse. Or maybe the fact template should be changed to something less serious-sounding like the "Facts are the red dancing points you see when smoking too much grass" from the disputed template. --Tifego 22:37, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

The only problem I have with the template is it sounds serious. Serious sounding, but not serious, templates, well, sound dangerous to me. If the only thing we have to fear is fear itself, then I'm scared shitless. Modusoperandi 02:14, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey! The template on the page in question just changed. Freaky... Modusoperandi 02:15, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Look at this, it's one of those fancy randomized templates. Tifego 02:28, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Nuts! It's still got things like "If this situation is not remedied the page may be nominated for deletion", which sounds awfully serious for a not serious template. Modusoperandi 02:31, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Well it's not protected from editing, so I took out that particular phrase just now. Tifego 03:04, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

My point is - it's a shitty template. I'd do that frowny face keyboard character thingy, but my new years resolution was to be less of a geek. So far I'm not doing very good (Aw, nuts! I just got jam on my star fleet uniform! Kirk is gonna kill me!). Modusoperandi 03:14, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Kirk: "I'll be the captain and you be Teneal!" Wait, where was I? Oh yes. Factual has bothered me for some time. This little incident gives me the backing to alter it to something that is hopefully funnier. Check it out here and add something funny if you are inspired. ---Rev. Isra (talk) 22:21, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Awesome. 22:30, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

MUCH better... But why are 3 of the 4 choices disabled? --Tifego 19:34, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Bada-bing! Modusoperandi 19:41, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Jokes in templates

Pet peeve, I know... but I do suspect templates like {{factual}} were created as a joke or just for the sake of mimicry of some existing Wikipædia template. Unfortunately, jokes in templates are often a bad idea - either because it's hard to tell if some "please remove facts, obfuscate this text, add more templates, add cowbells, explain the jokes to the Americans" template is placed because someone actually wants any of these changes made or just because this is their idea of humour. There's also the not-so-minor detail that templates are meant to be reused and jokes (at best) tend only to be funny once. They get tiresome after a while if they merely repeat the same joke with no useful info. --Carlb 01:59, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Whoa... that's the Wiki way of thinking! it'll always be funny to someone, anyone new etc etc, although I think they should only be used if the page genuinely contains factual content etc etc... if it's being used inappropriately, then it should hopefully be obvious that that is the case. --Olipro Co-Anc (Harass) 02:13, 15 April 2006 (UTC)