Talk:Jewish cuisine

Ye, ye, gut ideye! I think that's definitely what the article needs to make it stand out. Rabbi Techno kvetch Contribs FOXES 16:28, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Two more things I want to add

Gefilte and Ptach. Also, I think we might want to dilute the Kosher part as bit (not the hechser though as it very good!) so we can write a full article over Kashroot in the future :) ~ 16:24, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

I've been finding it rather difficult to come up with anything funny about gefilte because, back in the days when I ate such stuff, I absolutely adored it to such an extent that my only thought on the subject is "This stuff is unspeakably delicious and absolutely everyone should eat it all the time." I agree with the kosher bit and removed it yesterday before seeing your message. It was proving hard to come up with anything there too, though in the context of an article on Kashrut there'll be a lot more room to explore it. I just attempted to tidy up the format a bit, since the headings and sub-headings were in all sorts of different sized fonts and I think the overall layout could do with a tidy. Otherwise, I don't think we're far from done - how about you? Rabbi Techno kvetch Contribs FOXES 16:37, January 13, 2010 (UTC) (PS - did you see the news about the planets being given Hebrew names? An Uncyc article on "Jewish Astronomy" could be in the pipeline!)

Hmm. It just occurred to me to work some amusing comments on the whole organ harvesting thing into the bit about Haman's ears. Might have to think about that, see what I come up with. Rabbi Techno kvetch Contribs FOXES 16:40, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

That actually gave me an idea....~ 10:14, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

In that case, since I'm busy today (promised to go out for lunch with the missus), I'll leave it to you. :-) Rabbi Techno kvetch Contribs FOXES 10:43, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

One question though, do you think we need to be consisted with the format (so, for example, use the warning signs over all the various items?) or just go with the flow? ~ 14:07, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I think consistency, so it looks like a proper government/public information document. However, in the meantime, we might as well just go with the flow and see what works best when it's finished. Rabbi Techno kvetch Contribs FOXES 09:58, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

So how do you like the Gefilte part? ~ 10:02, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Just read it - good stuff, though not as good as gefilte fish itself (by which I mean the nice version in breadcrumbs, not the ikky grey goo version which I wouldn't even feed to my ferrets - not least of all because they'd probably bite me half to death for the insult)! Rabbi Techno kvetch Contribs FOXES 10:08, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Breadcrumbs version?! That must be an English thing...~ 13:04, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Seriously? You haven't had it? Wow - you need to get yourself down to Golders Green next time you're in London. Other than the breadcrumbs, the most notable difference between it and your usual gooey grey stuff is it tastes gorgeous. Said by many to be the inspiration for fish and chips, too, as the first fish and chip shops were opened by Ashkenazi immigrants in the 19th Century - cod in breadcrumbs or batter not being terribly different to carp in breadcrumbs and chips not being vastly different to latkes. Thankfully, we cannot also be blamed for the battered sausage, as that's as treif in as many different ways as it is revolting. oh, and shabbat shalom while I'm here! Rabbi Techno kvetch Contribs FOXES 15:39, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Messy

I still think it's a bit messy, though I've tried to introduce some uniformity in the headings and so on. There's quite a lot of text here, so tidying up is going to take a bit of thought (and there's nothing I think we should get rid of) - I think the best thing is going to be to work out what goes in which Type (1,2,3 and 4) and why, and then take it from there. Rabbi Techno kvetch Contribs FOXES 18:14, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Yep, I'll do the cleanup. Got an idea for the ending as well. Are you finished with the content? ~ 21:59, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

OK, did some restructuring, and look at the summary I've added. On top of that, I think we should remove the kosher part, and make a separate article of it. What do you think? ~ 22:48, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Looks much tidier - just the changes to the Legend help a great deal. The summary is good also. I've been through checking for typos and have changed spellings to Standard English for the sake of consistency (I used SE instead of American English just because it's the one I speak) and have changed p'tach to p'tcha, which I believe is correct, so if it isn't they'll need to be changed back again. Oh, and I removed "chopped liver" from "see p'tcha and chopped liver" as there's no section on chopped liver. You mentioned writing another article on kashrut and using the section on kosher/hechsher for that. We may as well - it doesn't really fit in too well now that the article is structured to look like an official document. Otherwise, I can't think of anything to add, so it's up to you when it goes into mainspace. Rabbi Techno kvetch Contribs FOXES 11:59, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Cool :) Can I take off the Hechsher part then? We'll use it for the Kashroot article. ~ 22:55, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Go ahead, assuming you haven't already done so - I'll have a look in a minute. Rabbi Techno kvetch Contribs FOXES 12:22, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

questions

Why not an every cuisine has gotten its own set of signs? If no signs suits some of those cuisines, you should add "safe" sign or something like that ;)

And what means "Re" in the fake title? :P

Sir Ptok-Bentoniczny^{Pisz tutaj} • KUN 16:21, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

"Re" means "in reference to," or "referring to." So this would be a Geneva Convention referring to Jewish Cuisine - it's a term used in offical documents when they could jusy as easily write "the convention ON Jewish Cuisine," but you know hoe officials like to make themselves look clever. I assume with the signs, you mean adapting the ones in this article for use on other articles on other types of food? If so, anybody who wants to use them can copy them from here I suppose and do what they want with them. :-) Rabbi Techno kvetch Contribs FOXES 16:25, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much for explanation of Re meaning ;). And I meant that e.g. P'tcha, Gefilte Fishe, Jewish Fighting Bagels, Latkes, Hamantash, have got no sign assigned to them. Maybe it was intentional but (in my opinion, you may ignore it) it would look better with signs assigned to them. Sir Ptok-Bentoniczny^{Pisz tutaj} • KUN 22:19, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, we'll have to take care of that. I think the article outgrew us. Rabbi, we've created a monster! ~ 22:22, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reminds me of a story I heard when I was a little kid, about a pot full of cholent that kept growing and growing until an entire shtetl was flooded with the stuff. Scared the crap out of me when I was five, that did. Rabbi Techno kvetch Contribs FOXES 12:51, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

From what I've already read, I say : you've done great job, tell me when you are finished with that and then I think I will nominate it for feature. :) Sir Ptok-Bentoniczny^{Pisz tutaj} • KUN 22:28, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

L'CHayim to the article

Jews sure know how to eat some weird stuff. But did you know that Jewish people are pork intolerant? and spiritually allergic to Shellfish? and don't forget to NEVER add a slice of cheese to the deli meat sandwich. I love Jews and their delis, but it won't be complete without the bread - make it the Levin Jewish Rye. Now can we start another article about African-American cuisine? Go for it! We know what they eat, but don't talk about it, cuz that's racist. + 71.102.7.77 04:53, March 1, 2010 (UTC)